Kiaraville, Kuala Lumpur
“On earth there is no heaven, but there are pieces of it” -Jules Renard (Kiaraville sales tagline)
We were out looking for another development launch around Mont’Kiara the other day (it’s a bad thing for a property launch when people can’t find your sales office!), but we found Kiaraville. Since we were fed up of looking for the other launch, we parked our car and checked out this place we have been seeing featured in The Edge and Trends magazine.
We were quite pleasantly surprised.
First the location. A lot can be said about the conquest of forest reserve and nice greenery by condos and luxury homes in Bukit Kiara, so we won’t go into it. What is obvious is that the entire area right from Desa Sri Hartamas all the way up to the Segambut road / Wilayah Mosque has become a status symbol among housebuyers, making it the new (and much better) Bangsar.
We can rattle off the long list of up-market projects completed and under construction there, but let’s talk about Kiaraville today. To get there, turn off the Sprint highway after Desa Sri Hartamas, follow the imposing walled road. Then turn right at Mont’Kiara, pass the well guarded Sunrise territory, and go ALL the way to the end of the road, past the dozens of worker camps and ongoing projects.
It’s located next to the NKVE highway, and with existing greenery and a decent view of the KL skyline. The advantage of the condo is that there are two bungalow projects just next to it, thereby guaranteeing an unobstructed view in that direction.
As for the condo itself, the first impression we got was a many different unit types set in 6 different towers (of varying heights), giving buyers a good range of choice. Some blocks are 9 floors, some are 18 floors. Each floor has 1-6 units, ensuring an excellent mix of height, view and pricing for everyone.
We kind of like some of the unit layout. They have introduced many corners, instead of straight walls. This give a angular façade outside, and interesting nooks and crannies inside. Another interesting feature is the covered balcony with ample windows, which they call ‘lanai’. Very interesting concept. Furthermore, French windows are preferred here.
The common facilities provided are above the average in the market, with gym, function room, multiple pools (including play pool and a kid’s pool), squash and tennis courts, private walled garden and the works. Parking is provided in 3 levels of basement. The development is enveloped in lush greenery, something which is very attractive and appealing to potential buyers. This aspect of landscaping is very easy and affordable for developers to implement, however sad to say most condo developers we see prefer to fill up every available space with parking lots or grey inefficient structures. Score brownie points for Kiaraville.
We were very impressed with the timber decked pool lounge with a cascading pool, surrounded by shady trees. The entrance was equally impressive, with a fair-faced curved concrete wall inviting the visitor in to Kiaraville. A touch of class, I must say. The architect for the project is none other than BEP Akitek, one of the premier architect firms in the country. (Incidentally, one of the partners, the late Dato’ Kington Loo, was a personal acquaintance).
Being in Mont’Kiara, it suffers/enjoys the usual problems/perks. First the perks: High class address, expatriate tenants, good return on investment, near to international schools. Near to KL, shopping paradise, gourmet food heaven in Desa Sri Hartamas. Near to Sprint, NKVE, LDP, Jalan Duta. Then the problems: Only one access road at Mont’Kiara at the moment. You cannot even begin to imagine to congestion during peak hour. There is another alternative route planned out to KL, but that’s in the future. Area will suffer from over-development soon.
The sales and marketing for this project is handled by an international real estate agent, in association with a local agent.
For the record, this is a joint venture between Binaderas with Singapore property giant Capitaland (no relations to the Malaysia company Capital Land) and OCBC Bank, Singapore. Binaderas is owned by the same people from Ireka Corporation, who have a property arm called i-Zen, currently also marketing some projects in the area (opposite Plaza Mont’Kiara). Many of the units are actually booked for the coming launch in Hong Kong, so that may be a good sign for investors looking for appreciation in price.
Check out Property Malaysia’s review on some of the the other projects in Mont’Kiara / Sri Hartamas:
Changkat View
Hartamas Regency 2
Kiara 1888
Kensington Park
Kiaraville
Kiaramas Ayuria
Hijauan Kiara
The Verve Suites
Tiffani by i-ZEN
Boulevard Tower, Solaris Dutamas
Mont’Kiara Meridin
| Project Name | Kiaraville |
| Location | Mont’Kiara, Kuala Lumpur |
| Description | 6 towers of Residential apartments with common facilities |
| Price | RM696,000 to RM3,062,000 (starting from about RM400psf.) |
| Unit size | 1650sq.ft. to 3500sq.ft. |
| No of units | 404 (Second phase coming soon) |
| Type of development | Residential apartment units on freehold land |
| Launch Date | Feb 2005, currently available |
| Expected Completion | December 2007 |
| Developer | JV between Binaderas Sdn. Bhd., Capitaland and OCBC Bank (Singapore) (Binaderas is owned by the directors of Ireka Corporation Bhd.) |
| Contact | 603-6203 1919 |
| Website | www.kiaraville.com.my |
1) Capitaland is a Singapore GLC and not a HK Co.
2) Mont Kiara vs Bangsar - single exit vs multiple exits, very high density(mostly high condo) vs largely landed properties ,workers camp colonies vs where?, etc etc
Comment by c.s.Lau — August 20, 2005 @ 2:55 am
c.s.Lau, thanks for the correction, i’ve amended the text.
Comment by Administrator — August 20, 2005 @ 3:20 am
All the items under your “Most popular post” points to Kiaraville… you may want to fix it.
Comment by Robert Foong — August 26, 2005 @ 10:14 am
thanks, fixed it!
Comment by Administrator — August 29, 2005 @ 12:33 am
visited the Kiaraville show unitS, it very nicely done,layout, facade, podium floor…very good architect work…
the marketing peoples was very friendly compare to the other one i visited…called Hijauan Kiara…they are too proud to be Hijauan Kiara.
regards
Tan.. from Singapore
Comment by Tan B C — September 25, 2005 @ 4:55 pm
Tan,
wow, we must go and see this hijauan kiara… too often now sales people are getting quite arrogant, or maybe its because people like us (Team Property Malaysia) don’t look like they can afford expensive homes.
we also liked kiaraville, we plan to return there in the next few days to check up on the construction progress.
Comment by Administrator — September 26, 2005 @ 12:48 am
I’ve been to Hijauan Kiara. Beautiful! And yes, they seemed selective with ‘target’ clients’.
Comment by Jen — September 29, 2005 @ 7:46 am
of course, Kiaraville is still the choice to many
Comment by Jen — September 29, 2005 @ 7:48 am
jen,
kiaraville is quite well marketed. we MUST go and see this Hijauan Kiara!!!
Comment by Administrator — September 29, 2005 @ 8:38 am
Kiaraville is definitely good choice to a lot of wealty people who can afford to stay at highend condo…
visited the show units and the site, it seem to be too high density at mont kiara vicinity area.. almost surrounded tall buinding such as Aman, damai, bayu kiara and the new L grande condo etc…
interm of layout and planning, it is superb..squarish design yet modern look.. i personally like it very much..
it seem to be very hot topic at this forum for this project.. but seldom see any advertisment at newspapar??? are they selling good……
ben
Comment by Ben — September 30, 2005 @ 6:09 pm
we were impressed, too by their good sales team (we don’t say that quite often). They don’t advertise in newspapers, but they do in the Edge and other magazines like Trends. targeting higher market group. Selling very well.
Comment by Administrator — October 1, 2005 @ 12:37 am
I’ve seen the show units of Hijauan Kiara. Its all glamour with the I.D. really. The new concept of sunken bath appeal to yuppies or investors. Ask any family with young children or older family member what they think. I liked the private lift concept, but of course you pay for what you get.
Comment by Jen — October 1, 2005 @ 6:38 am
Ben, I agree. When I was in town late last year searching for a property, I was hesitated to explore Kiara due to the high density. Viewed many and finally booked i-Zen@Kiara; which I dropped due to the dishonesty of the agent. I lost 100% of my deposit. Then I came to know about Kiaraville when they launched it in S’pore (a lot of high-end properties does this). There weren’t much adverts in the major dailies in Msia. Mainly write-ups in business magazines.
Properties in Kiara still fetch a premium especially the more ‘exclusive’ ones. No doubt, having International Schools in the area helps. However with the uncertainties in the market, I am curious to know if the long term outcome.
Recently visited the show unit of Suasana Sentral - The Loft. Beautiful. Strategic location hence I believe very good for investment. Any thoughts?
Comment by Jen — October 1, 2005 @ 7:27 am
jen,
a lot od expats i know highly recommend suasana the loft. unfortunately we didn’t have a chance to see it. kiaraville is promoting heavily in HK and singapore. i think the price will most likely increase after completion.
Comment by Administrator — October 2, 2005 @ 2:24 pm
are they giving good discounts for kiaraville now?
Comment by Jen — October 5, 2005 @ 2:35 am
jen,
not that we know of, not many units available for Malaysians. but its best to check with the sales people.
Comment by Administrator — October 5, 2005 @ 2:44 am
thanks. a very diplomatic answer. what did you hear in the market?
Comment by Jen — October 5, 2005 @ 5:18 am
sales very good. anyways they have blocked off many units for Singapore and HK.
Comment by Administrator — October 5, 2005 @ 6:07 am
right. doesn’t make sense. what’s the real objective behind this if they can sell the units to fellow countrymen/women? especially with the investment of the show-units @kiara. what are your views on this?
Comment by Jen — October 5, 2005 @ 9:10 am
i suppose its up to them, since OCBC & Capitaland are Singaporean corps. Besides, selling to foreigners they can get better pricing. If selling to Malaysians, they’ll sell out too, but maybe slower. Everybody wants to make more money and faster.
Comment by Administrator — October 5, 2005 @ 9:15 am
Admin, i heard they are kiaraville 2 next week?
Comment by Jen — October 5, 2005 @ 11:04 am
Admin, i heard they are launching kiaraville 2 next week?
Comment by Jen — October 5, 2005 @ 11:07 am
so soon? must drop by la, like this…
Comment by Administrator — October 5, 2005 @ 2:35 pm
i have checked with the one of the agent, it is just a relaunch of kiaraville. the launch of kiaraville 2 is prob mid next year.
Comment by Jen — October 6, 2005 @ 1:55 am
Kiaraville is lauching a new phase from the 14th of oct, heard the new showroom is done as well, and they’re launching it together with an artist named Eng Tay its supposed to be an art gallery cum launch, sounds intresting. probably out of my budget but, its nice to dream
Comment by Kelvin — October 11, 2005 @ 1:33 pm
kelvin,
we love to dream, too..!
Comment by Administrator — October 12, 2005 @ 2:34 am
my dream too….would it be any food served… i can afford to eat …ha ha
Comment by jen — October 12, 2005 @ 12:07 pm
jen,
i believe there would be. interesting concept actually.
Comment by Jen — October 13, 2005 @ 5:17 am
i will go to visit the show unit on saturday…too bad i cannot go on launching date, hear a minister is opening the ceremony…..i wish i own one unit there… but it beyond my budget…
Comment by jen — October 13, 2005 @ 1:57 pm
last time they launched, i heard they served Strudelz… hmmm…
Comment by Administrator — October 13, 2005 @ 2:01 pm
strudels!! i’m there
Comment by kelvin — October 13, 2005 @ 7:25 pm
introduced by friend to drop by this website… seen the kiaraville website,it pretty good, will be drop by the show unit may be next week before fly back to Hong Kong.. i remembered, i saw thier exhibition in Hong Kong…feed back was good heard…. wonder how many of us bought here..
Comment by Ben — October 13, 2005 @ 11:03 pm
thanks for dropping by, ben.
i think the units were well received by malaysians. some people i know bought there.
Comment by Administrator — October 14, 2005 @ 3:24 pm
I was there during the weekend. Nothing exciting - mainly to highlight the new show unit and the showcase of Eng Tay’s paintings (small % of the sales will go to charity).
Comment by Jen — October 17, 2005 @ 5:13 am
wah, marketing people come up with new things all the time…
Comment by Administrator — October 18, 2005 @ 4:33 am
i was there that day, it a good way to promote project like that, supprisingly the painting sold quite well. the one most expensive RM110K also sold…… i can’t belive it!
the show unit are nice.. but it bit dark..the ID seem like Black colour …i feel not comfortable.. but the layout is great…big yard i like.. and the shower area was too open.. large opening… i suppose it current trend.. like to let your neighbours watch at u when showering.. haha .
Comment by Benyoon — October 18, 2005 @ 2:23 pm
benyoon,
you’re right about the open toilet ting. we’re seeing it everywhere, stonor suria etc. you won’t see us using it, that’s for sure!
Comment by Administrator — October 19, 2005 @ 3:26 am
What percentage of units are already sold ? Any of the smaller units left?
Comment by steve — November 2, 2005 @ 2:28 pm
steve,
it’s best to check with the developer for the latest info. Contact number is given above.
Comment by Administrator — November 3, 2005 @ 2:53 am
It’s about 80% sold at this point. This project has the best units layout in the MK area at this point.
Comment by caveman — February 4, 2006 @ 9:38 am
Caveman, did you buy a unit there ?
Comment by deathstar — February 6, 2006 @ 2:06 am
yes, almost all the good units are gone.
Comment by caveman — February 8, 2006 @ 8:51 am
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Comment by (deleted) — February 10, 2006 @ 5:43 pm
Which do you think is the “best” development in Mont’ Kiara at the moment? I think Hijauan Kiara is currently the most exclusive and upmarket development to date. Only 188 units with private lift, spa island, etc. versus 404 units in Kiaraville. I’m waiting to see what Sunrise can come up with their MK 10 @ Kiara but it sounds like that development will be more high density than Hijauan Kiara with 340 units and two 44 story blocks. Anyone knows when Sunrise will be launching MK 20?
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Comment by (deleted) — February 21, 2006 @ 12:02 pm
Ghiaretto,
i agree that the quality of the earlier condos by sunrise were better. in the face of the competition, they should seriously into it.
Comment by Administrator — February 21, 2006 @ 1:43 pm
kiara watcher,
its really impossible to say which is the ‘best’ development, it depends on what you are looking for - price, location, size of unit, facilities, etc.
Comment by Administrator — February 21, 2006 @ 1:53 pm
Hello administrator,
I’m looking for a high-end unit with good layout/finishing and location. Size > 2000sq ft. Price > RM1 million. Currently, I think the developments that might fit my criteria are Hijauan Kiara, Mont’ Kiara Damai and Kiaraville. Heard that Sunrise might be launching another development MK10 which they claim will be 6 star. Would like to know what you guys think of these developments in terms of pros/cons and which would be the “best” among this lot in terms of balance between price and what you get. Thanks!
Comment by kiara watcher — February 26, 2006 @ 8:54 pm
Hi Ghiaretto
You viewed units in Mont’ Kiara Aman? I’m surprised that you’ve listed so many defects in the condo as the Sunrise sales people seems to be selling it as a 5 start development similar to Damai. I’m starting to doubt their claims for their upcomming MK 10 which I think they will be pricing at > RM500 PSF (most expensive PSF for an uncompleted unit). You have any info on MK10?
Comment by kiara watcher — February 26, 2006 @ 8:59 pm
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Comment by (deleted) — February 27, 2006 @ 8:50 pm
I thought Sunrise shareholders are Tong Kooi Ong & Alan Lim… are they related to Berjaya?
In terms of quality of Aman deteriorating, i suppose it must be with regards to workmanship right, coz compared to Astana and Bayu, the materials/ finishing do look higher grade. I do have to say that Aman has a few design flaws like toilet door opening into WC and 1668sqft unit sandwiched without light.
As for kiaraville, I like -
a. A lot of light coming through (except for type B units)
b. bedrooms away from living room
c. comes with bedroom cabinets on top of competitive pricing (just under RM400/sqft with discount)
Worries
a. That the level of capitaland’s involvement moving forward will be minimal (i.e. quality control, management)
b. near highway
c. congestion from Kiaraville2, Solaris, La Grande, Tiffany and even hartamas regency 1 & 2 will be ‘nearby’ when the bridge is completed)
d. put up with construction of tiffany and kiaraville2 for first few years
I’m actually considering a unit for own stay there but not much choice left, got a few near the highway facing Genting. What d’ya think?
Comment by heythere — February 28, 2006 @ 9:41 am
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Comment by (deleted) — February 28, 2006 @ 10:02 am
wow, thanks for the feedback on Aman. I know some people who have units in Aman. Will ask them to watch out. Actually, i even drove into Aman the other day and they didn’t ask me for my IC/ driving license.
I wonder how Banyan would be like? Its suppose to be of even lower quality than Aman and yet the pricing was already about RM425/sqft.
Actually, for Hijauan, its a pity that the highway is close by and also the high tension wire. Maybe the Tongs will built a huge dome made of greens to shelter Hijauan and Verve from highway and high tension wire
i feel the pricing is really quite good actually… considering the niche.
I saw hartamas regency2 recently and they’re throwing in semi-furnishing (including fridge) at the moment but for RM400+/sqft, its not really cheap considering the high tension wire is even nearer than that for hijauan (IMO) and the whole landscape is essentialy just one swimming pool.
Kiaraville would be just next to Solaris … is that more of a pro (i.e. convenience) or a con (i.e. traffic/ congestion)?
Comment by heythere — February 28, 2006 @ 10:29 am
oh .. actually i’ve confused myself … i thought tiffany is the 400-unit building that ireka is building in the remaining piece of land between
a. la grande
b. solaris
c. kiaraville
d. ireka bungalows
e. The residence (sunrise bungalows)
It looks like quite a small piece of land though. suppose to be 400 units. Actually, i thought it was gonna be something like iZen @ Aseana Villas. I’m not quite sure now, could someone clarify?
Comment by heythere — February 28, 2006 @ 10:55 am
ok, to clarify … izen @ villa aseana is the landed property (which i earlier called Ireka bungalows) whereas izen @ tiffani is the proposed 400-unit condo.
Comment by heythere — February 28, 2006 @ 11:13 am
A big Kiaraville con for me is that it’s next to the highway and it’ll be really noisy. Although Kiaraville’s windows will be double glazed, that would mean that windows cannot be open for fresh air because of noise from highway, construction site next door and solaris.
Apart from that, i think kiaraville’s layout is very good and the bathrooms are quite well finished.
Am very interested in Hijauan Kiara too but unsure about the high tension wires. So far no absolute conclusive evidence about the harmful effects of high tension wires (some reports say there is some say not). But am worried that the moment a conclusive report does come out that high tension wires does produce harmful effects, the value of the property will snowdive. Still considering between Kiaraville and Hijauan Kiara… what do u all think?
Ghiaretto…why do u rate Hijauan’s location worse off than Kiaraville? Hijauan’s location has fewer condos hence less congestion?
Comment by Aylatan — February 28, 2006 @ 11:15 am
Heythere,
I’ve also heard about Banyan being 4-star finishing. At the rate the quality has been diminishing in Aman’s 5-star condo, Banyan’s finishing is a real suspicion. The layout doesn’t look impressive at all to me.
Also there’s the kampung behind Banyan to consider as well as the empty land next door that no one knows what’s gonna happen to it.
Despite all these, it was almost fully sold before the launch! Really wonder why. Maybe there’s something i’m missing out here.
Comment by Aylatan — February 28, 2006 @ 11:33 am
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Comment by (deleted) — February 28, 2006 @ 3:03 pm
Ghiaretto, thanks for your feedback.
I have gone to Kiaraville showroom and listened to the highway noise from the window, it is significant enough for u to want to close the window. But yeah, the windows are made of thicker glass so it is sufficient enough to block off the noise. But that means, the condo has to be fully air-conned at all times. I prefer having some fresh air now and then esp when feeling sick.
With regards to Hijauan, i didn’t mind that Kiaramas Sutera was above it but minded the high tension wires a little. But i guess i’d trust BKP to do enough research about the wires before building something there and risking their reputation.
Also I felt that Hijauan Kiara is nearer the main road so it was easier to get out of Mt Kiara and miss all the congestion. Whereas Kiaraville is quite deep inside MK which means having to travel past ALL the other condos to get out to PJ, where i normally go to. But heading towards KL would be more convenient with the new road.
Still in dilemma… I really really like Hijauan Kiara’s design and facilities (i should be able to get a B unit there) but unsure of the hightension wires. I quite like Kiaraville, but afraid of jam and highway noise, and unsure of management in future. So have to really weigh pros and cons. Which would have better appreciation? hmm….
Comment by Aylatan — February 28, 2006 @ 4:34 pm
Hi Ghiaretto!
Thanks for your views. Just curious, as you seem to know a lot about Mont’ Kiara, are you currently living there or are you intending to buy a unit there? Do you have any information on MK10? From what you have stated, it sounds like MK10 will be a bit too high density for the exhorbitant price that they are asking for.
Comment by kiara watcher — March 1, 2006 @ 4:05 pm
Hi Aylatan,
I’m in the same situation as you. Cannot decide which one to buy. In my opinion, Hijauan Kiara would be a better choice than Kiaraville due to:
1) Higher exclusivity 188 units in Hijauan vs 404 units in Kiaraville
2) More disctinctive facilities, e.g. Spa island, 2 big pools, etc.
3) More innovative concept - private lift, sunken bath
4) More “exclusive” location as what you have pointed out. Also, I think that Hijauan Kiara is closer to more “green areas” so it should be more peaceful and cooler. You can check out Google Earth to see what the site looks like from the air.
5) Alan Tong is the developer of Hijauan. Note that Capitaland is the financier of Kiaraville but not doing the construction which is done by Binaderas
The only potential downside of Hijauan is that it is close to the high tension wires but so is Kiaramas Sutera and Kiara Hills. The evidence on health risks is inconclusive so it’s up to you as to whether you believe that they will be a health risk or not.
If you get Type B, I think it should be quite OK already as it should be quite a distance from the high tension wires and closer to Aman Kiara. Also, you would already be ‘protected’ by 2 other blocks. I think the quality should also be good as this is Alan Tong’s first condo project since he exited from Sunrise so he will definitely want to prove to the market that his new company Bukit Kiara Properties is able to produce better products than Sunrise.
In terms of price appreciation, I think Hijauan clearly has the edge because there are limited units there, only 188 units so there should be less competition when it is time to sell.
Anybody have an idea of how the units in Kiaramas Sutera are doing as they are even closer to the high tension wires than Hijauan?
Comment by kiara watcher — March 1, 2006 @ 4:08 pm
everyone,
i dunno whether it will clarify anything or make things more confusing, we’ve just posted our review of hijauan kiara…
http://propertymalaysia.blogsome.com/2006/03/01/hijauan-kiara-montkiara/
next up will be kiaramas ayuria and the verve suites.
Comment by Administrator — March 1, 2006 @ 4:15 pm
Hi Administrator,
Thanks for reviewing Hijauan Kiara. I’m planning to do a mega visit of properties in Mont’ Kiara this weekend. Besides those new developments that you’ve already reviewed in this site, which other developments would you recommend that I visit?
Do you think it would be worth the time to look at completed properties like Aman & Damai or are they too expensive that I shouldn’t even consider?
Any idea where is this Tiffany that some people have talked about? I thought it was supposed to be a high-end development by Ireka?
Comment by kiara watcher — March 2, 2006 @ 11:40 am
actually you can spend the good part of a day to visit all the available condos. if you’re going this weekend, you can check out verve suits (same office as hijauan) and kiaramas ayuria, solaris, so many more…
for completed properties usually the good units have been long taken up, so you can drop by to see, but don’t expect much.
Maybe Ghiaretto or someone else can help us out on tiffany?
Comment by Administrator — March 2, 2006 @ 12:13 pm
For tiffani, they’re building the showroom which is just right in front of solaris mont kiara. I dun think its ready for visitors yet, but you can always knock on the door or break in
Comment by heythere — March 2, 2006 @ 3:01 pm
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Comment by (deleted) — March 2, 2006 @ 3:47 pm
BTW, you guys do know there is a Meridin project by Sunrise that’s launched recently right? It’s one lot after Banyan & next to the NKVE. Worth a visit to Sunrise property showcase on this Saturday to get a feel of the current market trends.
Comment by Ghiaretto — March 2, 2006 @ 3:52 pm
Tiffani is by Ireka, i heard its 400 units but have heard nothing else.
You can also take a look at Kiara1888 whose sales office is on the same road as Yogazone in Plaza Damas. Also, across the NKVE near where Solaris Dutamas is going to be built, you can take a look at Hartamas Regency 2 showroom & sales office. Can check out the Hartamas Regency review on this website for location, contact, etc.
Comment by heythere — March 2, 2006 @ 5:58 pm
Thanks to everyone for all the input. Will update the group on what I find out this weekend.
In spite of all the competition and new condos coming up in Mont’ Kiara, prices are still on the uptrend. Wonder when will prices peak and how will rentals hold up once all the luxury condo’s near KLCC are completed in 2 years time.
Properties near KLCC are definitely more expensive than Mont’ Kiara on a psf and absolute basis (due to larger sizes) but the quality/finishing also does look much better and more luxurious. Land around KLCC is also much more expensive. Sometimes I really wonder whether the developers in Mont’ Kiara are milking us buyers by providing much lower quality products while charging much higher prices.
Comment by kiara watcher — March 2, 2006 @ 11:44 pm
Hey all, came across this I had read all of it. Recently looking for a property in this area. Just wonder does any one has any idea about Tiffani price range ?
Comment by Jun Chan — March 2, 2006 @ 11:53 pm
i think the range of prices in MK at 350-450psf is still reasonable, no developer wants to stick their neck out too high above the 500psf price range… but yes, its still on the uptrend slowly.
as for klcc, the prices start FROM RM600psf up until RM1000psf… already a lot of people are saying there are too many condos. The prices there have definitely peaked. i think some of the investors there may have problems looking for tenants in 2 years time…
Comment by Administrator — March 2, 2006 @ 11:54 pm
Hi everyone,
Anyone can provide more information on the viability of buying a suite (2 bedroom unit) for investment purposes? I’m considering either Verve Suites by BKP or Designer Suites@Solaris Dutamas by Sunrise. What are the pros and cons of those developments.
Or for that kind of money, am I better off investing in a terraced house somewhere else?
Comment by kiara watcher — March 6, 2006 @ 12:56 am
I managed to check out a couple of properties in Mont’ Kiara during the weekend. Here’s my opinion on some of the condominium developments there. I’ve rated them in descending order based on some criteria.
Top Tier Condo Developments: Hijauan Kiara, 10@Mont’ Kiara, and Kiaraville
Exclusivity/Density
1) Hijauan Kiara – 35 units per arce (188 units on 5.4 arces)
2) 10@Mont’ Kiara – 47 units per arce (340 units on 7.3 arces)
3) Kiaraville – 64 units per arce (404 units on 6.3 arces)
Out of the 3, Hijauan Kiara is clearly the most exclusive with only Mont’ Kiara Damai having a lower density than Hijauan Kiara. All future developments are unlikely to have a much higher density as the land prices have gone up significantly in Mont’ Kiara. This explains the higher density for 10@Mont’ Kiara even though Sunrise is marketing it as a 6 Star condo versus Mont’ Kiara Damai which is a 5 Star condo.
Location
1) 10@Mont’ Kiara
2) Hijauan Kiara
3) Kiaraville
This is a bit subjective as it depends what you are looking for. I’ve rated 10@Mont’ Kiara first because it offers the best balance between being near amenities (Plaza Mont’ Kiara) while not being too close, i.e. it is located at the end of Jalan Kiara 1. Hijauan Kiara has the most “peaceful” location as there are currently on 2 condos on Jalan Kiara 5 which is Hijauan Kiara and Verve Suites. The Verve shops will make Hijauan Kiara more convenient. Kiaraville is rated last because it is directly next to the busy NKVE and hence will be very noisy. It is also next to Solaris@Mont’ Kiara which will make it convenient but you can expect traffic congestion and more noise from all the activity.
Value/Price
1) Kiaraville
2) Hijauan Kiara
3) 10@ Mont’ Kiara
Again, this is a bit subjective depending how you evaluate this. Based on the materials/finishing provided in the units, Kiaraville would offer the best value as it is priced at RM400+ psf and includes wardrobes, kitchen cabinets, etc. while Hijauan Kiara is priced similarly but does not include all those built-ins. However, from a total density standpoint, it can be argued that Hijauan offers more value as there are fewer units and hence, you “own” more of the land as opposed to Kiaraville. 10@Mont’ Kiara is a bit overpriced with average prices expected to be at RM550 psf. Also units in 10@Mont’ Kiara will cost a minimum of RM1.7million upwards as sizes start at 3,200 sf. In spite of this, the units in 10@Mont’ Kiara will all be only 4 bedroom units so the layouts have wasted a lot of space by having an unusually large dry and wet kitchen, etc.
Facilities
1) Hijauan Kiara
2) Kiaraville
3) 10@Mont’ Kiara
Once again, Alan Tong proves to be a pioneer by introducing a Spa island, sunken bath, private lift, etc. which is the first of its kind in Mont’ Kiara. Kiaraville comes second with its landscaped garden and infinity adults’ pool. Third is 10@Mont’ Kiara with the ‘standard’ Sunrise layout of having the facilities somewhat separated from the condos versus Hijauan and Kiaraville where the condos embrace the facilities. 10@Mont’Kiara is also trying to have a creeper garden throughout the development which results in a lot of beams/columns – very closed feeling that I really don’t like.
Developer
1) Hijauan Kiara – Alan Tong
2) 10@Mont’ Kiara – Sunrise
3) Kiaraville – Binaderas
Alan Tong is Malaysia’s condo king. Sunrise is synonymous with Mont’ Kiara and has a good management track record. Binaderas is still quite new and is unproven.
Layouts
1) Hijauan Kiara
2) Kiaraville
3) 10@Mont’ Kiara
Again, this is a very subjective area. I like Hijauan because of the squarish practical design which maximized the usage of space. Kiaraville has the widest choice to meet all taste but I just didn’t like all the nooks and corners as much as Hijauan’s simple yet practical design. 10@Mont’ Kiara has a lot of wasted in-between space and it looks like they increased the sizes of the units just to charge more as a lot of the space cannot be used practically due to the layout.
Overall
1) Hijauan Kiara
2) Kiaraville
3) 10@Mont’ Kiara
Depending on what you are looking for, each development has its own pros and cons. Hijauan Kiara would appeal to those who want exclusivity while providing good value for the type of facilities/concepts with units. Kiaraville would suite those with a slightly lower budget who also likes good facilities but doesn’t mind sharing it with more people. It also offers good convenience but also more noise/traffic. 10@Mont’ Kiara will be only for millionaires as units start from RM1.7million. It will have the snob appeal for those who are fanatically loyal to Sunrise while providing large units starting from 3,200 sf.
Other Upcoming Developments
Some other upcoming developments in Mont’ Kiara will be
1) Tiffany by Ireka which will be a 400 unit condo next to Solaris
2) Kiaraville 2 which will be next to Kiaraville
3) YNH project next to Lanai Kiara on Jalan Kiara 3
Other Second Tier Condo Developments
Some other developments that I looked at were:
1) Mont’ Kiara Meridin by Sunrise – typical standard Sunrise but located right next to the NKVE and hence dodn’t interest me too much.
2) Kiara 1888 – attractive pricing but I think that is due to the location which is right next to the kampung. In fact, I would urge anyone considering Kiara 1888 to visit the site as the kampong is located directly beside and in front of the development. After I visited the site, I immediately ruled out Kiara 1888.
3) Hartamas Regency – didn’t like the look/location and felt that their pricing was too high given what was on offer. It was also extremely close to the high tension wires.
4) Kiaramas Ayuria by Asiaquest – Worth checking out as it does offer quite good value for those with smaller budgets. Only thing is that sales are not as good as the other developments so I’m not sure whether there is some particular reason for the slow sales which I don’t know about – bad quality or management?
Designer Suites
I looked at Verve Suites by Alan Tong and Designer Suites @ Solaris Dutamas by Sunrise. Verve show units were really nice and they offered some very good facilities like a heated pool with all the other usual full condo facilities. Designer Suites only had some basic facilities like a small swimming pool but it is located on top of a major commercial development which I’m not sure whether is a pro/con.
I would really appreciate it if anyone could help provide more insight on the market for designer suites and whether these would make good investments?
Comment by kiara watcher — March 7, 2006 @ 5:13 pm
kiara watcher,
wow! thanks for the feedback, i’m sure lots of other buyers will ifnd your views helpful. definitely we feel that hijauan and kiaraville are heads above the rest of the competition.
i must go and see this 10@mont’kiara everyone is talking about…
Comment by Administrator — March 7, 2006 @ 5:21 pm
Dear administrator and Kiara Watcher,
Really a detail analysis, I find it helpful.
This is a little bit out of the topic, but if someone know the procedure etc.. could you please advise ?
I am a Malaysian working long term oversea but hoping to buy a property in this area for investment purporse. My question is that how those legal procedure could be eliminated ? As I could not be home every time for signature etc … Do you think if I authorize one of my family member in doing it for me will be helpful and what will be the bottleneck / extra cost etc in doing this ?
Jun Chan
Comment by Jun Chan — March 8, 2006 @ 7:27 pm
Check with a Malaysian lawyer on giving the Power of Attorney to whomever you choose to sign legal docs on your behalf. You may be able to do it.
Comment by eagle — March 10, 2006 @ 11:50 am
Dear Eagle
Thanks for your information, so this POA will help, right.
Do you think this will also do with the bank loan, under my name but my representative could sign everything for me ?
Comment by Jun Chan — March 10, 2006 @ 9:11 pm
Hi Administrator,
10@Mont’Kiara has not been officially launched yet. They have the floor plans and site plans plus some concept pictures on display at the Sunrise Sales office. I was told that they are building a showflat which should be ready sometime in the middle of the year.
If you do decide to visit the Sunrise Sales Office at Plaza Mont’ Kiara, there are 2 properties that you can review - Mont’ Kiara Meridin (a new development with an LCD TV in the bathroom!) and Designer Suites @ Solaris Dutamas (this development will be next to Duta Tropika and Hartamas Heights).
Comment by kiara watcher — March 13, 2006 @ 6:35 pm
Sunrise doing a showflat? Given Sunrise’s track record, you mean they are doing a showflat? I think the Sun will rise from the west!
Comment by Arnold — March 27, 2006 @ 2:10 pm
Yes, that’s what their sales people told me. It’s supposed to be located at their show village which is right next to the MK10 site. Remember, this is MK10 we’re talking about where they intend to charge exhorbitant prices of RM550psf with units starting from RM1.7 million and above! Without an excellent show flat, how can they expect people to part with that kind of money?
Comment by kiara watcher — March 28, 2006 @ 10:47 am
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Comment by (deleted) — March 30, 2006 @ 7:22 pm
Hi ghiaretto,
Did you get the information from the developers? Any idea on the sizes of the units and market positioning/unique facilities?
From what you’ve listed, sounds like the developments will be of very high density. Pricing is also quite high so they must be giving some very good finishes if they intend to change those kind of prices for that high density. This really makes Kiaraville 1, Hijauan Kiara, Kiara 1888, Meridin and Kiaramas Ayuria look very cheap in comparison.
With this 1000 additional units together with the 340 units from MK10, the market might be getting a bit saturated and congested.
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Comment by (deleted) — April 4, 2006 @ 3:18 pm
Yes, only big units and undesirable units are left in Kiaraville 1.
Sounds like Kiaraville 2 is copying Hijauan Kiara in terms of concept (spa & private lifts). Out of the 3 new projects in the pipeline, MK10, Kiaraville 2 and Tiffani, which would be your preferred choice and why?
Comment by kiara watcher — April 4, 2006 @ 11:27 pm
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Comment by (deleted) — April 5, 2006 @ 4:57 pm
The showroom for Tiffani by i-Zen will be opened to public this weekend (6th May onwards). It’s not the official launch yet, but apparently bookings are allowed.
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Comment by (deleted) — May 10, 2006 @ 9:16 am
Kiaraville 1 is left with “unappealing” units. The discount has gone down from 10% to 8% to 6%.
Ireka is going to launch Tiffani@I-zen in June:
399 units
3 blocks
4 acres
100 units/acre
RM440psf fully furnished (10% early bird discount)
Kiaraville 2 to be launched end 2006:
600 units
4 blocks
8 acres
75 units/acre
RM450psf (10% early bird discount)
Comment by ghiaretto — March 30, 2006 @ 7:22 pm
Hi Ghiartto
Visited Tiffani@I-zen showroom today they are given 10% discount but not fully furnished. The price from 440 up
Comment by Neil — May 13, 2006 @ 6:31 pm
Any more information on Tiffanu@I-Zen?
Has 10@Mont’ Kiara been launched yet?
Comment by kiara watcher — May 15, 2006 @ 1:28 am
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Comment by (deleted) — May 18, 2006 @ 3:14 pm
OK. I will try and visit Tiffani to see what they are offering. At 440 psf, it looks like prices are still trending upwards in Mont’ Kiara and given that high density of 1,000 units per acre, it really seems overpriced. Any idea how the sales are doing?
Any other new developments that have opened for booking yet in Mont Kiara?
For the Bangsar condo on Jalan Merenung, I was told that they are having a booth in Bangsar shopping centre to promote the development. Supposed to be a high end development but I think it’s just absurd for them to be pricing it at RM700psf with unit sizes of 4000sf and above! At that price, you could buy a new semi-d in Damansara Heights or Kenny Hills!
Comment by kiara watcher — May 19, 2006 @ 4:41 pm
Tiffani by i-ZEN has been reviewed, click on the link to view it…
Comment by Administrator — May 20, 2006 @ 9:47 pm
Hi Administrator and/ or Moderator,
How do we get in contact with you, i.e. what is your email address?
Looked through your site but only: simonblog@gmail.com is available. Can I contact you at simonblog@gmail.com?
Comment by benji — May 23, 2006 @ 11:34 pm
what stage is the development ? any one know please input
Comment by ckchen — June 29, 2006 @ 1:43 pm
Check out this link dude. Shows progress online. Really cool:
http://www.pjdprop.com.my/hartamas/camera.asp
Comment by Bill — July 1, 2006 @ 4:06 am
I find the comments here very informative. Anyone has the details of Kiaraville 2.
Comment by Novice — July 23, 2006 @ 11:10 pm
I checked with the sales ppl and they mentioned Kiaraville 2 will be launched end of this year - all BIG units (starting from 2000+), price starting from 480–>500 psf
Comment by dtpm — July 29, 2006 @ 2:37 am
Anyone have news on 10@Mont’Kiara, Kiaraville 2 and the YNH project?
Comment by kiara watcher — August 16, 2006 @ 1:22 am
I think you better wait for Kiaraville 2 since you are buying for own stay. Let’s wait and see how Kiaraville turn out to be and what the buyers gonna say about kairaville. I want to get one for own stay too but the units left are totally unappealing, no point to force myself to get something i don’t really like although its rather cheap compare to others high end developments. More over I don’t like seeing the trucks everydays and the area will be very very dusty and noisy until Kiaraville 2 is completed. Although Kiaraville 2 is more expensive but I am sure it is more value for money than MK10.
Comment by boogeyman — August 24, 2006 @ 11:03 am
anymore news about kiaraville lately?
Comment by boogeyman — September 18, 2006 @ 4:11 pm
they’ve released Kiaraville 2, haven’t they?
Comment by Administrator — September 18, 2006 @ 6:03 pm
Kiaraville 2 will be open booking on early 2007 and price at RM480/sq ft
Comment by yschin — September 30, 2006 @ 7:13 pm
Stop!! In the name of love!!
RM480 psf, minimum size is 2340sf so cheapest entry price is over a million. But it is only slightly more expensive than Kiaraville 1. So is it better to get Kiaraville 2 since it is not very much difference in price and Kiaraville 2 sure have much better quality/finishes/facilities.
Comment by boogeyman — October 11, 2006 @ 2:16 pm
any one receive invoice ??
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — November 5, 2006 @ 1:14 pm
10@Mont’Kiara has been launched by Sunrise and has been selling like hotcakes. More than 80% sold already with most units starting at RM1.8 million and above. I think it was a bit too overhyped due to the Sunrise brand name. In my opinion, there was really nothing impressive about the development besides Sunrise touting it as a 6 star development. Facilities are the same as the other developments so nothing much to shout about besides the huge apartment sizes. Also, there is no squash court. The Sunrise salespeople were also very cocky and “allocated” units to customers, i.e. they would choose which unit they could sell to you. Also, the views from the units will be blocked by future developments and even the Sunrise people say this as they don’t own the adjoining parcel of land. If you look at the location map, Kiaraville 2 will block it’s view at a distance. The only pitch that the salepeople had were “It’s by Sunrise so you can’t go wrong”. Nothing much else to sell the development.
Hijauan Kiara still leads the pack in terms of innovation with their spa concept and I think Kiaraville is also better laid out with a bigger main pool and also adult’s pool. Heard that Kiaraville 2 will becoming out with some sort of island concept so that should be interesting.
Comment by kiara watcher — November 7, 2006 @ 10:22 am
subsale price for 10@MontKiara will be at least 2.3M, I’ll pick Kiaraville type G anytime. You are paying at least 20% of the selling price for the brand. Kiaraville Type G is now going for around 1.25M after discount, you are paying 550k for the Sunrise Brand!!!
The location of MK10 is very nice though, good for retirees!! Solaris@MontKiara will be a big plus for Tiffany/Kiaraville and maybe the “already dead” Le Grande.
Comment by boogeyman — November 8, 2006 @ 3:16 pm
Does anyone know if there is a market for resale Kiaraville units? Just moved overseas for a new job and looking to offload my Kiaraville purchase.
Comment by Kiaraville Owner-pool — November 10, 2006 @ 12:36 am
what type is your unit? price you want to offload for? which floor is it?
Comment by boogeyman — November 10, 2006 @ 12:40 am
please send more information to knm1129@yahoo.com.my
Comment by boogeyman — November 10, 2006 @ 12:49 am
I dont think you can sub-sale your uncompleted unit coz the s&p stated “can not transfer within construction period”
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — November 11, 2006 @ 11:59 am
You can sell your unit if you got consent from the developer. Email me the information of your unit such as built up, type of unit, number as well as price if you want to sell, I am interested. Have a nice day!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 11, 2006 @ 3:45 pm
please let me know if you can get the consent from development before complete.
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — November 11, 2006 @ 9:35 pm
Please forward me the details of your unit, such as type of unit, block and number, selling price etc. The developer want to know which unit you want to sell and I want to know what price you selling. Awaiting!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 13, 2006 @ 10:44 am
J L, is that you?
Comment by ??? — November 14, 2006 @ 2:44 pm
Boogeyman,
Are you sure Type G is going for RM1.25m? This works out to be RM367psf, since they are about 3400sf. Isn’t this a catch? Thx.
Comment by KV Fan — November 15, 2006 @ 6:31 pm
I said it was going for as low as 1.25m but now the cheapest would be 1.27m or something like that. Type G is selling at average 370sf after discount, not sure why Binaderas doing that. To be exact, it is 3410sf, near perfect layout. Still have few units of Type G available and I am considering getting one since my prefer unit Type C is sold out year ago.
Comment by boogeyman — November 15, 2006 @ 9:27 pm
Thx Boogeyman.
Comment by KV Fan — November 15, 2006 @ 9:43 pm
Thx Boogeyman.
Comment by KV Fan — November 15, 2006 @ 9:44 pm
I assume you are Kiaravile Fan, you got a unit there? heard that the discount is now only 2% no more than that!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 15, 2006 @ 10:38 pm
Yea, I got one there. Hopefully a worthwhile investment. If there’s anymore good buy in KV, will consider buying another one.
Comment by KV Fan — November 15, 2006 @ 10:44 pm
Is Kiaraville comparable to Sunrise’s Aman?
Comment by KV Fan — November 15, 2006 @ 10:48 pm
Sunrise’s Aman and Kiaraville, I’ll take Kiaraville anytime!! I dont want to pay more for the brand Sunrise. I’ve been to some Aman units, the layout is terrific bad for the price you pay, the living room is huge but bedrooms are way too small…..quality of finishes is considered bad for the price you pay. But Kiaraville is not completed yet, so thats the risk!! If Binaderas deliver as promised, you will be a happy home owner!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 15, 2006 @ 11:54 pm
Is it still worth it to buy the remaining units in Kiaraville? I know these are unpleasing units, but if KV is better value, then why not? Worse to worse, rent it out cheaper or flip it for less profit.
Comment by KV Fan — November 16, 2006 @ 1:07 am
The quality shoudl be good - one of capitaland’s first foray into m’sia. So dun think they will screw that up..my 2 cents
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — November 16, 2006 @ 1:09 am
I share your view. If Binaderas delivers what they promised, they will be the favourite in MK. I think they will be the new Sunrise in MK.
Comment by KV Fan — November 16, 2006 @ 1:18 am
KV - If you want to consider a resale unit - email me at contact@drexo.com
Comment by Kiaraville Owner-pool — November 16, 2006 @ 1:20 am
Type G is the best bet for the time being as others remaining units are not appealling at all unless you are talking about the smallest unit which is Type B, they still have 2 nice units which is on 27th and 29th floor, price higher than Type D and F. I’ll most probably go with the Type G, 370psf, private lift lobby!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 16, 2006 @ 10:34 am
I have a unit (type c, Blk A) any one interested? Please let your message.
Comment by Type C owner — November 17, 2006 @ 5:56 pm
Which floor? What was ur purchase price?
Comment by KV Fan — November 17, 2006 @ 7:22 pm
Hi Type C owner, send information suc as price, unit number and floor to knm1129@yahoo.com.my, am interested in the Type C if price is right I’ll buy!!!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 17, 2006 @ 11:05 pm
I’ve been to Kiaraville showroom this afternoon but unfortunately the saleperson was very unfriendly and kind of like “look me no up” attitude, it was the short young boy who “serve” me but dont understand why Binaderas would employ a boy like him who just surf the net most of the time.
Type G will most likely be the one I am going to purchase, after discount 1.29m for the 3rd floor.
Comment by boogeyman — November 17, 2006 @ 11:09 pm
Boogeyman, it seems location of Type G is not so nice coz it is on slightly lower ground - no views & eclipsed by other blocks esp Block 1 & 2. Also the lanai and possibly the masterbedroom will get direct sun. The back of the unit will have the highway closeby…noise. WIth many units left, ur units will have difficulty to appreciate upon completion. Just my 2 cents worth.
Comment by KV Fan — November 18, 2006 @ 1:59 am
pool and landscape view is good as the KLCC view for Type C and E will be blocked by the development opposite 2 years later, am prefer landscape and pool view actually. As for the highway noise, take a look at the layout plan and you will find that there will be no noise problem for Type G as facing the highway will be the garden terrace which is in the entrance, window will be double glazed anyway. It is facing west so it might be a little hot in the noon, all these can be compromised by the lower price tag which is around 370psf whereas other is over 400psf. But type G is rather huge for a small family so I am actually looking at Type C so if Type C owner is right then I’ll grab it if not then Type G.
What type is yours?
Comment by boogeyman — November 18, 2006 @ 10:54 am
Hi Boogeyman
Sent details to your account already. Do you interested Kiaramas Cendana unit (2,500 SQ Ft)
Comment by Type C owner — November 18, 2006 @ 3:24 pm
Thanks for your mail Type C owner, already replied you. Good luck with your sale mate!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 18, 2006 @ 11:25 pm
Boogeyman, the price u will pay for a Type C will be about the price of a Type G. May as well go for Type G.
I have a Type D.
Comment by KV Fan — November 19, 2006 @ 3:13 am
Type C’s developer price is still ok but his asking price is close to Type G, plus the legal fees and stamp duty for both SPA and loan agreement, the difference is only RM40,000, extra 40k for an extra 915sf, you do your math. Type C will have better capital gain upon completion, not now because developer still have around 30 units available.
Your Type D is on block C? facing the la grande and solaris?
Comment by boogeyman — November 19, 2006 @ 11:19 am
KV Fan, have you taken the kitchen package? 2.4k for hood and hob sound like a good deal as they install them for you before vacant possession!! I am thinking of getting the fisher and paykel premium package + single drawer dish washer.
Comment by boogeyman — November 19, 2006 @ 11:43 am
How much is the legal fees and stamp duty for both SPA and loan agreement? if you buy from developer, you also need to paid loan spa and agreement right then the diff is only sale spa and the stamp duty only paid in advance if you plan to invest for long term.
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — November 19, 2006 @ 11:48 am
hi boogeyman, just visted the kiaraville website. i have checked the layout of Type G did you know that the back door exit is inside one of the bedroom
Comment by X-man — November 19, 2006 @ 12:30 pm
Mine is facing Solaris. Is the kitchen package offered to Type D as well? You must be a very experienced property investor.
Comment by KV Fan — November 19, 2006 @ 3:56 pm
Hi All,
I am looking to buy a new unit in MK area, looked at ayuria , meridin and the new casa kiara 2 (next to verve). Looking at the larger units 1574sqft priced at 380/sqft. What do you guys think of casa kiara 2 by dijaya?
Thanks
Comment by energy — November 19, 2006 @ 4:53 pm
Hi Kiaraville owner, if you buy from developer now all you need to pay is only RM380 for the proceedure fee, SPA’s legal fees and stamp duty is inclusive in the purchase price whereas loan agreement’s legal fees and stamp suty is either by the purchaser or the bank depend on what loan package you taking. Anyone purchase your unit the buyer have to pay 30k++ for the legal fees and stamp duty for the SPA.
Hi X-Man, that one is in the guest room which exit to the corridor/private lift lobby, not a very good idea but I can take it since there are no more better deal in the market.
Hi KV Fan, the kitchen package is being offered to ALL kiaraville purchaser, you can call them for more information.
Hi Energy, Meridin is no longer available, it is located next to the highway not a good development although carrying sunrise brand. Casa Kiara 2, you might want to see Casa Kiara 1’s quality of finishes and the current demand for casa kiara 1 then you might skip it, but the location of casa kiara 2 is good, much better than anything in Jalan Kiara 3.
Ayuria is the best bet for all the developemtn you’ve mentioned. entry price is much lower, go and have a look now you might be impressed. They are now giving 5 or 6% discount with equiped bath room, cabinet, timber floor, porcelain tiles, air conds, green tinted wall height window…etc. Maybe you can get the salesperson from Asiaquest to bring you to their previous development (Kiaramas Cendana) then you would have some ideas what end product you will be getting.
Comment by boogeyman — November 19, 2006 @ 5:49 pm
Boogeyman, developer SPA didnt included any stamp duty for transfering title but if you buying resale unit you will paying the stamp duty for transfer the title and you dont need to paid any s/d after the title is issue.
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — November 19, 2006 @ 6:29 pm
Boogeyman, the door exit to outside corridor. why dont consider Tiffani?
Comment by X-man — November 19, 2006 @ 6:35 pm
Hi again Boogeymen. What’s ur confidence that MK will maintain its exclusivity in the next few years? Will KV4 be good also? I’m new in MK area that’s why the many basic questions. THQ
Comment by KV Fan — November 19, 2006 @ 6:49 pm
Hi Kiaraville owner, transfer title fee is called MOT, Memorandum of Transfer which is another cost apart from SPA’s lega fees and stamp duty. Anyone who puchase your unit need to pay 30k++ for the SPA’s legal fees and Stamp Duty, then the new owner need to pay another 20k++ when the title is issued which is expected 7 - 10 years upon completion.
Hi X-Man, Tiffany now only offer 4% discount and average price is 440psf, Kallista A is now 1.2m++, 2700sf, 399 units in 4 acre of land.
If you log on to www.kiaraville.com.my you’ll see more information on Project K4. This project will be launched early next year and price is expected to be 480/490psf and early bird discountis available too.
I am not very sure how good will MK perform in the long run but I have high hope on Solaris @ MK/Dutamas, if both commercial development take off then the entire MK will be benefited especially the already dead La Grande. Cold Storage will be there for 12 years at least follow by other branded retailers. The new bridge to Duta area will be open next year (before Kiaraville complete, expect heavy traffic from Dutamas to MK.
If everything goes smoothly, we’ll have a new Bangsar.
Comment by boogeyman — November 19, 2006 @ 7:20 pm
According 2 my experience if you purchase a property without issue of starta title then you dont need to paid any stamp duty when the title is issue only paid a small amount of fees to your lawyer.
Comment by Investor — November 19, 2006 @ 10:56 pm
Maybe I was wrong as I was advised by the developer’s lawyer. SPA’s Legal fee and stamp duty for subsale unit is very expensive, 20k++ for a RM630k worth of property, strata title is not issued yet. When title is issued, another 15k++ for MOT.
Comment by boogeyman — November 19, 2006 @ 11:38 pm
hi boogeyman, your lawyer parang you. the fees for 630k property is about 4,860.00++ and the stamp duty 12,900.00 and dont need to paid any $$ for MOT after title issue. check another lawyer.
Comment by Investor — November 20, 2006 @ 11:55 am
Yes Investor, you are right. RM18,003 is what we paid, MOT is RM10 only when title is issued which is expected few years from now.
Comment by boogeyman — November 20, 2006 @ 12:44 pm
maybe three year the ritle will be issue
Comment by Investor — November 20, 2006 @ 2:17 pm
Individual title will be faster but strata title takes long time especially for condo!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 20, 2006 @ 4:55 pm
MK Astana strata title issue last year 4 year after complete
Comment by Investor — November 20, 2006 @ 6:19 pm
That’s fast!! So bayu strata title is being issued soon then!!
What do you think of Kiaraville?
Comment by boogeyman — November 20, 2006 @ 6:27 pm
hi all I am looking for a unit in Kiaraville build up 2500 very keen. if u have unit to let go email me at stanllysim788@yahoo.com
Comment by buyer — December 9, 2006 @ 9:43 pm
and the Kiaraville guru can advice which type has the better position and facing, thanks
Comment by buyer — December 9, 2006 @ 9:47 pm
Kiaraville Owner has a Type C and asking 1.2m, you might consider.
There are few Type A available at developer price.
Comment by boogeyman — December 12, 2006 @ 4:03 pm
Type C would be the best since you are only looking at 2500sf. Expect loud highway noise. If budget allows, Type G is a good choice too, it faces west but price is very afforadable.
Comment by boogeyman — December 12, 2006 @ 4:07 pm
hi boogeyman thanks. My budget only 1m, I like type A & C. May take up the developer unit, if no option available. What do u think of low floor?
Comment by buyer — December 13, 2006 @ 12:02 am
The Type C u mention is on what floor, how many percent is different from purchase? Thankx
Comment by buyer — December 13, 2006 @ 12:06 am
I think the Type C he is selling is around 18% more than the developer price, early buyer got 10% discount then 8% then 6% then 4% then now only 2% rebate which would be withdrawn very soon so if you would like to get a unit there be quick and try to negotiate for 3% if you dont take the interest absorption package.
Type A low floor is from 960k before discount and it is actually not that low as the lobby is already 4 storey in height. Unit number 7 for type A is more preferable, unit number 1 is not good, go to see the scale model then you will know what I mean.
Hope to see you in Kiaraville next year November.
Comment by boogeyman — December 15, 2006 @ 12:53 am
Thanks bro boogey I know about that on top of that he only paid 20% so far no interest during construction, anyway I like the type A is not bad at all. will be booking today, will chat again neighbour. Thanks boo.
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 9:59 am
Type A is away from the highway so noise will not be a problem in future, it alco faces the future Project K4’s garden/pool.
Comment by boogeyman — December 16, 2006 @ 12:50 pm
yap boo, i actually like that type A because of open space, no building is clustering on me, I book the one that face the sales office. I still look for type C becasue of the family area that is missing from type A. The entrance is something to look at.
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 4:31 pm
I can pay more than 1m the question is does that justified for the current progress. paying 1.2 or 1.3 I can buy type G or Tiffany 2700 sq ft, for type G is the maintenance fees i have to pay for Tiffany is 30cent and 3 years, I need to move next year. My say thanks.
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 4:43 pm
I had the same thoughts before making my purchase at the end I got Type G. Love Type C but it was sold out long ago and with that asking price from other owners, I pay 40k more and get 915sf more.
Type C comes with a small study area, yard is smaller, master bed room is slightly shorter, developer price start from 1.1m before 10% early bird discount.
So did you take the kitchen package?
Comment by boogeyman — December 16, 2006 @ 5:59 pm
Buyer did you managed to get 3% discount? or just 2%?
Comment by boogeyman — December 16, 2006 @ 6:11 pm
I guess 3% only know on monday, but paid deposit
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 6:27 pm
I guess 3% only know on monday, but paid deposit
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 6:33 pm
I’m not comfortable with the manitanance fees of nearing 1K, I feel that money can put to better use somewhere. I plan to take up the hook an hop, oven the rest be buying what I like fridge can be very pretty if u fix it right, part of id I feel.
I should be taking up the K4 so I can have my choice of where to stay later. I just love this era of condo evolution, or I wont be spoiled for choice, and put our country in a better shape.
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 6:52 pm
I am sure you will have the request of 3% discount approved on monday.
I didnt take any kitchen package as I plan to wait and see what’s available a year later, the models of hood and hob you are paying now might cost only 1.5k a year later in homedec exhibition.
Project K4 would not be as value for money as Kiaraville.
The maintenance fees for your type A should be 601.25 monthly, type G is 852.50 monthly, not much of a difference but this is what you should pay for enhanced security/facilities.
Congratulate on your purchase!!!
Comment by boogeyman — December 16, 2006 @ 7:35 pm
Is not much different, but enough for me to pay TNB almost enough. Will wait for K4 later I can chose which to stay or sell. I like the type G ground floor with the garden.
Good point about the hood n hob, r they selling below market value? I have not enquire still early to decide.
thanks for advise neighbour.
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 8:00 pm
The layout of Tiffany Kallista 3700 sq ft is perfect, that will be what I’m more welling to pay if I up my stack. The layout is flawless 3 lanai, that’s my perfect home layout for the moment.
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 9:14 pm
price from 1.6m for Kalista C, I love that layout too but way beyond my budget and maintenance fee would be 1.1k per month enough for a brand new vios.
You might want to consider Kiaraville Type H with that kind of pricetag.
Comment by boogeyman — December 17, 2006 @ 2:28 am
the hood and hob package is good for those opt for hassle free as developer installed them for you before vacant possession but you wont know what package/promotion will be available from dealers a year later and the models might be outdated months later I for one would not like to see the product I paid a year later so I decide to skip this package.
Comment by boogeyman — December 17, 2006 @ 3:55 am
Well I’m happy for my unit now, is not a perfect home but what a home should be, only without family and study area. Hope can find that in K4, ideal would be 2700-3000 sq ft. That will still come in comfort maintenanace fees base on rm0.25, is higher density and near highway junction developer need to throw in more gimmic to attract sells. I heard in K4 will be spending more on enviroment, n facilities , 2 full size olympic pool.
Comment by buyer — December 17, 2006 @ 9:20 am
Hood n hop I feel the design do not make much different for new model, unless new tech, beside that look all hood is only depend on the reliability of the fan, and ease of cleaning. Hob is just a burner, it all depend on how attractive is the package to me.
Comment by buyer — December 17, 2006 @ 9:28 am
Type G has a very grand entrance, with water feature? a little id work should make this house some piece of statement, maybe we can group for better bagian, just a thinker.
Comment by buyer — December 17, 2006 @ 9:34 am
K4’s maintenance fees would be 0.30 psf.
Type G entrace is very grand I agree and other part of the unit is away from NKVE highway so noise will be none or minimal.
When you plan to move in? Me first quarter of 2008.
Comment by boogeyman — December 17, 2006 @ 10:11 pm
moving in as early as posible, trying to enroll children to garden for next year intake, 1 major factor for me to move. June 07′ maybe ready, it will be better for me, intake on sept.
Comment by buyer — December 18, 2006 @ 9:44 am
You not local? mind telling where you from? International schools don’t take local students.
Comment by boogeyman — December 18, 2006 @ 2:25 pm
It is open to pulic now ministry announce early this year, but certain requirement which I can fullfill.
No 3% for me, only 2% but give me kitchen appliances. not feeling so bad, at least they compensate me about equalvilent gimmick.
Comment by buyer — December 18, 2006 @ 8:34 pm
still on waiting list, hopefully they can take both my child at d same time. And everythhing is new for me, new life, new enviro, new neighbour, new school, a new beginning.
Comment by mcf — December 18, 2006 @ 8:42 pm
what kinda kitchen appliances they give you? hope it is hood, hob, oven, waste disposer, double drawer dish washer, washer/dryer and fridge.
msf, which school your children going? garden?
Comment by boogeyman — December 18, 2006 @ 11:29 pm
hood hob, oven, and waste disposal, the premium package which is around rm8K. Applied Garden waiting list for next year sept intake, or the next availbale semister. But u need to meet certain ministry requirement, u should consult the school if u can meet that.
Comment by mcf — December 19, 2006 @ 9:42 am
Any ideas what’s the fees like per year? seems that every parents send their children to Garden instead of Alice or MKIS.
Comment by boogeyman — December 19, 2006 @ 10:46 am
around rm21k per year for kindergadern rm23k from year1, MKI is good but 30% more premium. There is still certain requirement u need to fullfill, u better check with the school. The fees will increase next year, rm10k non refundable for each child is also increasing.
Comment by mcf — December 19, 2006 @ 1:33 pm
Once again it proves that Mont Kiara is for the rich and upper class residents. Paying 23k per year for your child’s education is expensive. So you are ready to pay 46k a year just for your children’s education.
mcf, you bought a unit in Kiaraville? Which type? and price?
Comment by boogeyman — December 19, 2006 @ 4:25 pm
hi booge and buyer, wat discount you got? 2 or 3? maybe i interester to buy a remainder unit.
Comment by Purchaser — December 19, 2006 @ 6:50 pm
i have 3 child 1 will joint in 2 years, so i need to trim where i can, i have a heavy bag on my back.
Purchaser I only get 2%, they said can get 3% for more than 1 unit so if u keen let me talk to them we get combine discount.
Comment by mcf — December 19, 2006 @ 9:02 pm
I bought type A, boo.
Comment by mcf — December 19, 2006 @ 9:05 pm
Yes mcf your back is really heavy!! more than 60k just for the kids’ education.
Not many buy for rental/flipping I guess. The agent from Sunrise informed me that the Solaris will be ready few months from now and Cold Storage will be their anchor tenant follow by other reputed retailers like guardian.
So we can walk to Solaris to have a cup of Machiato Caramel
Comment by boogeyman — December 19, 2006 @ 10:36 pm
Binaderas the developer seems to be treating everyone the same unless you are bumiputra. 2% rebate is the max you can get.
Last I check, Kiaraville is 95% sold!!
Comment by boogeyman — December 19, 2006 @ 10:42 pm
solaris will hand over in march 07′, coldstorage end of the year. Public bank, ambank is confirmed 1 more to the list. starbuck, coffeebean, is there to serve u very soon enjoy the new life u going to get here bro.
Comment by mcf — December 19, 2006 @ 11:41 pm
I prefer international bank instead of local bank. If solaris becomes the new hot spot I wonder if it would affect the value of Kiaraville.
Heard that some pubs/cafes/discos from Hartamas will switch to Solaris…..noise and congestion outside Kiaraville…this is what worry me!!
Comment by boogeyman — December 20, 2006 @ 11:10 am
solaris is a sured hot spot, hartamas will face challange and revalue.
Comment by mcf — December 20, 2006 @ 4:36 pm
purchaser, r u keen on the unit, I talk to them, we can bargain. Please let me know as soon b4 they change thier mind. Thanks
Comment by mcf — December 20, 2006 @ 4:38 pm
msf, yours unit number 1 or 7?
I went to the site just now and they already started installing the windows and plastering.
good luck with your bulk purchase discount!!
by the way, I wonder why nobody is interested in Le grande, someone has been trying to offload his unit for 720k for a 2000sf unit…but…..nobody wants since 5 months ago!!
Comment by boogeyman — December 20, 2006 @ 5:55 pm
La grand I heard layout not appealing, I didn’t bother to look. I saw it during launching, boo tell u my unit later lah… personal infor talking too much of me already.
the success of solaris will only boost the value in that area, is the most friendly enviroment in MK when ready, my say. The day when all the ting tong are all over u c this location’s worth. K4 will be second last condo land in the cluster, there will be 1 last development after K4.
Comment by mcf — December 20, 2006 @ 8:05 pm
as far as I know there whould be no more development after project K4 in the cluster, the whole cluster should be consist of Kiaraville, K4, bungalows, villa aseana and tiffany….anymore?
I dont like the ting tong construction noise so I expect them to complete the earth work before I move in.
Comment by boogeyman — December 20, 2006 @ 8:32 pm
la grand has a piece of land after the bunglow lot, and planned for condo project.
Comment by mcf — December 20, 2006 @ 11:54 pm
If you prefer Garden school, why dont you chose Kiaramas Cendana is closer to the school and you can walk to the school mah!!!
Comment by seller — December 21, 2006 @ 10:27 am
Kiaramas does not have the community envir, and not what I like.
Comment by mcf — December 21, 2006 @ 10:45 am
concept is king in buyers market, u pay for how u 1 2 live.
Comment by mcf — December 21, 2006 @ 10:49 am
Kiaramas is about 600 meter away from garden internation school, only those who wish to sell Kiaramas Cendana will take it as an advantage. Kiaramas Cendana is good, but not as good as Kiaraville/Tiffany.
Comment by boogeyman — December 21, 2006 @ 11:01 am
And also, if one wish to buy a property because of Garden international school, then Kiara Design Suites, Casa Kiara 1, Lanai Kiara, Vista Kiara would be better choice and that’s what I called “within walking distance”. You need a car to go everywhere.
mcf, Is that called Villa Aseana Court? access from Duta Kiara or other part of MK? From the map I cant see if there is anymore access road lead to the land after K4 and the bungalows.
Comment by boogeyman — December 21, 2006 @ 11:05 am
transport for Garden is provided free for MK residence, the condo u mention r all on undesirable area to me. and those condo do not offer much, is only a quality condo that can not convienced or motivate me to stay.
Access at the end of K4 there is where the land is.
Comment by mcf — December 21, 2006 @ 12:00 pm
Purchaser u still around?
Comment by mcf — December 21, 2006 @ 12:01 pm
I was watching MK for few years b4 I know where is desirable to me.
Comment by mcf — December 21, 2006 @ 12:05 pm
So K4’s development will be affected by ting tong but who knows both launch at the same time and hope it would be another high end condo but if it is another la grande then it wont do any good…..project K4’s price from around 500psf was informed by the agent of kiaraville but it comes with equipped kitchen and quality better than Kiaraville.
Since transport is provided for pupils of garden international school then it doesn’t matter how far it’s from Cendana, the condo I listed out was of lower end and of course undesirable if compare to Kiaraville/Cendana/Tiffany/Ayuria. I’ve personally viewed Cendana the 1839sf unit, everything is very classy and well done but the unit is just too bare to my liking…only kitchen cabinet is given for free unlike Kiaraville which you have most of the furnitures included, the security is shitty I heard but agents said they will improve
mcf, why not you group with “buyer” then both you and him would enjoy the extra 1% rebate which can be used for the kitchen premium package?
Comment by boogeyman — December 21, 2006 @ 12:21 pm
I found this website very interesting about Kiaraville so those of you who interested in getting one may log on and read the comments made by other owners.
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Admin please delete this if it offend the rules. Thanks!!
Comment by Kiaraville~Owner — December 21, 2006 @ 5:56 pm
which condo in MK is provide free transport to Garden School ?
I thing only free transport to One Utama for MK residence during week day.
Comment by seller — December 21, 2006 @ 6:10 pm
transport provided by school, boo. no one resond yet hopefully someone will come along.
Comment by mcf — December 21, 2006 @ 11:24 pm
like i said they r quality condo but nothing that capture the sparkling feel, they build quality condo no question.
Comment by mcf — December 21, 2006 @ 11:31 pm
the school provide bus for sure but is not FREE
Comment by seller — December 22, 2006 @ 5:25 pm
u sure seller? i was told transport provided,maybe u can tell me more.
Comment by mcf — December 22, 2006 @ 6:05 pm
Garden school never provide FREE school bus from day 1 coz my sons is study in garden school
Comment by seller — December 22, 2006 @ 7:06 pm
Type C is beside showroom and Type C1 is close to Type D
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — December 22, 2006 @ 7:08 pm
ok, they told me is provided, maybe i’m wrong. How do u find the school? Can give any commend?
Comment by mcf — December 22, 2006 @ 10:32 pm
Isn’t both c lanai facing block D?
Comment by mcf — December 22, 2006 @ 10:37 pm
Block A Type C both lanai facing Type G (East) and Type A facing WEST (very hot)
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — December 23, 2006 @ 9:32 am
If u buying Type C you must buy 10th floor above otherwise you will looking at type G root top. I think Type C low floor is the best can see all the pools.
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — December 23, 2006 @ 9:38 am
i like it above the block D, I like privacy. Thanks for the reply pal.
Comment by mcf — December 23, 2006 @ 1:34 pm
the price should be 1.3 to 1.4M
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — December 23, 2006 @ 5:57 pm
I think I’ll stick to what i have now, lets c how appealing is K4. Made up my mind, cheers all neighbours.
Comment by mcf — December 23, 2006 @ 7:37 pm
Type A’s master bed room and lanahi is facing south-east, bedroom 2, 3 and guest rooms’ bath/toilet is facing south-west.
Type C’s low floor has minimal view only, you cant see ALL the pool, look at the site plan and you know what I mean…maybe you get to see some trees and some water….maybe the residents opposite as it is directly facing type G. Higher floor might have highway noise problem.
From the available units now I think Type G is better in term of value for money, then Type A unit number 7. Type H is beyong most’s budget.
Comment by boogeyman — December 27, 2006 @ 1:08 am
yes price for type C should be 1.3m - 1.4m upon completion, but not now, not even 1.2m as there are still 30 units available.
mcf, there is still 3 type G units for sale, after discount should be around 1.29m.
Comment by boogeyman — December 27, 2006 @ 1:11 am
Let C which type A, C or G have more value after completed. From my view I dont think Type G is good: Facing highway, design weir(back door exit from the guest room instead of kitchen)
Comment by Purchaser — December 27, 2006 @ 9:01 am
Type G is facing the pool and landscape purchaser.
Comment by boogeyman — December 27, 2006 @ 9:08 am
Yes is facing WEST
Comment by Purchaser — December 27, 2006 @ 9:33 pm
So it is rather hot in noon time but who is living there? pay another 150 or 200 for heavier usage of electricity would do.
Comment by boogeyman — December 27, 2006 @ 11:28 pm
haha…… rich man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by purchaser — December 28, 2006 @ 11:08 am
you made your purchase? mcf is looking at grouping you to buy 2 units for better price. which type you intend to purchase?
Comment by Kiaraville~Owner — December 28, 2006 @ 11:37 am
Please e-mail me at stanllysim788@yahoo.com, for those kin to get addtional discount b4 they cut off my deal thanks.
Comment by mcf — December 29, 2006 @ 3:50 pm
As for this project all unit has been carefully designed, type G may not look like a good buy, is not that bad after u study the layout. As for my type A low floor I can still find something that I can call home.
Comment by mcf — December 29, 2006 @ 4:04 pm
As for my type A only the rooms n toilets r getting afternoon sun, which I like the toilet to get full sun ray more hygenic to me. For the rooms light getting to area that don affect yr activity, is good, I like the house to be bright. Living room is overlooking at the lancscape and open space, K4 will not be a big problem to my view the landscape is about 200ft apart. If u take a ruler to draw out the angle from the livingroom is fine.
Comment by mcf — December 29, 2006 @ 4:20 pm
An extra quarter million gets extra 1005sf of course I would go for type G although it is facing west, my wife love the huge kitchen and island concept although there will be no lanai for type G. Only master bed room and living gets the sun light.
Type A was my initial choice but since the loan will be repaid by a combine income so we decide to go for the bigger one.
msf, purchaser contact you already?
Comment by boogeyman — December 29, 2006 @ 7:03 pm
Is a good buy Boo, no question. I guess the purchaser maybe spy from developer, or rich man don need discount, no, no reply.
Will u be adding any id for yr unit? U have any ideal what’s project beside Regency 2 that face KV, still not time to find out.
Comment by mcf — December 29, 2006 @ 9:06 pm
Type C low floor, If u can stay with the fact that u can watch all the live episode of yr neighbour n also being watch, or shut off yr curtain for privacy. I’m not comfortable being watched so I only can accept higer unit.
I’m still happy being so close to landscape which is feeling refreshing, and calm. U know the graphic work of the infinity pool that’s what I’m hoping to find in my unit.
Comment by mcf — December 29, 2006 @ 9:34 pm
I’m not spy and decided to change my mind and book a unit at Tiffani Kiara.
Comment by Purchaser — December 30, 2006 @ 9:23 am
intend to spend 20% of the purchase price for ID, furnitures and electronic appliances and you?
looks like your hope of an additional 1% discount is gone as purchase has gone for the tiffany….they give 4% now anyway…around 440psf after discount…..100 units per acre.
Comment by boogeyman — December 30, 2006 @ 10:00 am
I got 10% discount haha…………….
Comment by purchaser — December 30, 2006 @ 11:24 pm
19th december you said you interested in buying a unit in kiaraville, 30th december you said you changed your mind and booked a unit in tiffany, today you said you got 10% discount. tiffany now only offer 4% discount but you made your purchase between 19th december - 30th december….unless you are real close to Ireka/Capitaland!!
sometime, one needs to study more before making up stories!!
mcf, never mind him!! too often we see idiots jumping around the streets!!
Comment by boogeyman — December 31, 2006 @ 4:28 am
dont act like big bossss!…………
Comment by purchaser — December 31, 2006 @ 9:03 am
Type G also low floor. The remaining unit are mostly on 4th floor.
Comment by purchaser — December 31, 2006 @ 9:12 am
Talking big only. I dont think ppl here can spend $$250K + for renovation
Comment by purchaser — December 31, 2006 @ 9:14 am
Why you call ppl IDIOT???????