Kiaraville, Kuala Lumpur
“On earth there is no heaven, but there are pieces of it” -Jules Renard (Kiaraville sales tagline)
We were out looking for another development launch around Mont’Kiara the other day (it’s a bad thing for a property launch when people can’t find your sales office!), but we found Kiaraville. Since we were fed up of looking for the other launch, we parked our car and checked out this place we have been seeing featured in The Edge and Trends magazine.
We were quite pleasantly surprised.
First the location. A lot can be said about the conquest of forest reserve and nice greenery by condos and luxury homes in Bukit Kiara, so we won’t go into it. What is obvious is that the entire area right from Desa Sri Hartamas all the way up to the Segambut road / Wilayah Mosque has become a status symbol among housebuyers, making it the new (and much better) Bangsar.
We can rattle off the long list of up-market projects completed and under construction there, but let’s talk about Kiaraville today. To get there, turn off the Sprint highway after Desa Sri Hartamas, follow the imposing walled road. Then turn right at Mont’Kiara, pass the well guarded Sunrise territory, and go ALL the way to the end of the road, past the dozens of worker camps and ongoing projects.
It’s located next to the NKVE highway, and with existing greenery and a decent view of the KL skyline. The advantage of the condo is that there are two bungalow projects just next to it, thereby guaranteeing an unobstructed view in that direction.
As for the condo itself, the first impression we got was a many different unit types set in 6 different towers (of varying heights), giving buyers a good range of choice. Some blocks are 9 floors, some are 18 floors. Each floor has 1-6 units, ensuring an excellent mix of height, view and pricing for everyone.
We kind of like some of the unit layout. They have introduced many corners, instead of straight walls. This give a angular façade outside, and interesting nooks and crannies inside. Another interesting feature is the covered balcony with ample windows, which they call ‘lanai’. Very interesting concept. Furthermore, French windows are preferred here.
The common facilities provided are above the average in the market, with gym, function room, multiple pools (including play pool and a kid’s pool), squash and tennis courts, private walled garden and the works. Parking is provided in 3 levels of basement. The development is enveloped in lush greenery, something which is very attractive and appealing to potential buyers. This aspect of landscaping is very easy and affordable for developers to implement, however sad to say most condo developers we see prefer to fill up every available space with parking lots or grey inefficient structures. Score brownie points for Kiaraville.
We were very impressed with the timber decked pool lounge with a cascading pool, surrounded by shady trees. The entrance was equally impressive, with a fair-faced curved concrete wall inviting the visitor in to Kiaraville. A touch of class, I must say. The architect for the project is none other than BEP Akitek, one of the premier architect firms in the country. (Incidentally, one of the partners, the late Dato’ Kington Loo, was a personal acquaintance).
Being in Mont’Kiara, it suffers/enjoys the usual problems/perks. First the perks: High class address, expatriate tenants, good return on investment, near to international schools. Near to KL, shopping paradise, gourmet food heaven in Desa Sri Hartamas. Near to Sprint, NKVE, LDP, Jalan Duta. Then the problems: Only one access road at Mont’Kiara at the moment. You cannot even begin to imagine to congestion during peak hour. There is another alternative route planned out to KL, but that’s in the future. Area will suffer from over-development soon.
The sales and marketing for this project is handled by an international real estate agent, in association with a local agent.
For the record, this is a joint venture between Binaderas with Singapore property giant Capitaland (no relations to the Malaysia company Capital Land) and OCBC Bank, Singapore. Binaderas is owned by the same people from Ireka Corporation, who have a property arm called i-Zen, currently also marketing some projects in the area (opposite Plaza Mont’Kiara). Many of the units are actually booked for the coming launch in Hong Kong, so that may be a good sign for investors looking for appreciation in price.
Check out Property Malaysia’s review on some of the the other projects in Mont’Kiara / Sri Hartamas:
Changkat View
Hartamas Regency 2
Kiara 1888
Kensington Park
Kiaraville
Kiaramas Ayuria
Hijauan Kiara
The Verve Suites
Tiffani by i-ZEN
Boulevard Tower, Solaris Dutamas
Mont’Kiara Meridin
| Project Name | Kiaraville |
| Location | Mont’Kiara, Kuala Lumpur |
| Description | 6 towers of Residential apartments with common facilities |
| Price | RM696,000 to RM3,062,000 (starting from about RM400psf.) |
| Unit size | 1650sq.ft. to 3500sq.ft. |
| No of units | 404 (Second phase coming soon) |
| Type of development | Residential apartment units on freehold land |
| Launch Date | Feb 2005, currently available |
| Expected Completion | December 2007 |
| Developer | JV between Binaderas Sdn. Bhd., Capitaland and OCBC Bank (Singapore) (Binaderas is owned by the directors of Ireka Corporation Bhd.) |
| Contact | 603-6203 1919 |
| Website | www.kiaraville.com.my |
1) Capitaland is a Singapore GLC and not a HK Co.
2) Mont Kiara vs Bangsar - single exit vs multiple exits, very high density(mostly high condo) vs largely landed properties ,workers camp colonies vs where?, etc etc
Comment by c.s.Lau — August 20, 2005 @ 2:55 am
c.s.Lau, thanks for the correction, i’ve amended the text.
Comment by Administrator — August 20, 2005 @ 3:20 am
All the items under your “Most popular post” points to Kiaraville… you may want to fix it.
Comment by Robert Foong — August 26, 2005 @ 10:14 am
thanks, fixed it!
Comment by Administrator — August 29, 2005 @ 12:33 am
visited the Kiaraville show unitS, it very nicely done,layout, facade, podium floor…very good architect work…
the marketing peoples was very friendly compare to the other one i visited…called Hijauan Kiara…they are too proud to be Hijauan Kiara.
regards
Tan.. from Singapore
Comment by Tan B C — September 25, 2005 @ 4:55 pm
Tan,
wow, we must go and see this hijauan kiara… too often now sales people are getting quite arrogant, or maybe its because people like us (Team Property Malaysia) don’t look like they can afford expensive homes.
we also liked kiaraville, we plan to return there in the next few days to check up on the construction progress.
Comment by Administrator — September 26, 2005 @ 12:48 am
I’ve been to Hijauan Kiara. Beautiful! And yes, they seemed selective with ‘target’ clients’.
Comment by Jen — September 29, 2005 @ 7:46 am
of course, Kiaraville is still the choice to many
Comment by Jen — September 29, 2005 @ 7:48 am
jen,
kiaraville is quite well marketed. we MUST go and see this Hijauan Kiara!!!
Comment by Administrator — September 29, 2005 @ 8:38 am
Kiaraville is definitely good choice to a lot of wealty people who can afford to stay at highend condo…
visited the show units and the site, it seem to be too high density at mont kiara vicinity area.. almost surrounded tall buinding such as Aman, damai, bayu kiara and the new L grande condo etc…
interm of layout and planning, it is superb..squarish design yet modern look.. i personally like it very much..
it seem to be very hot topic at this forum for this project.. but seldom see any advertisment at newspapar??? are they selling good……
ben
Comment by Ben — September 30, 2005 @ 6:09 pm
we were impressed, too by their good sales team (we don’t say that quite often). They don’t advertise in newspapers, but they do in the Edge and other magazines like Trends. targeting higher market group. Selling very well.
Comment by Administrator — October 1, 2005 @ 12:37 am
I’ve seen the show units of Hijauan Kiara. Its all glamour with the I.D. really. The new concept of sunken bath appeal to yuppies or investors. Ask any family with young children or older family member what they think. I liked the private lift concept, but of course you pay for what you get.
Comment by Jen — October 1, 2005 @ 6:38 am
Ben, I agree. When I was in town late last year searching for a property, I was hesitated to explore Kiara due to the high density. Viewed many and finally booked i-Zen@Kiara; which I dropped due to the dishonesty of the agent. I lost 100% of my deposit. Then I came to know about Kiaraville when they launched it in S’pore (a lot of high-end properties does this). There weren’t much adverts in the major dailies in Msia. Mainly write-ups in business magazines.
Properties in Kiara still fetch a premium especially the more ‘exclusive’ ones. No doubt, having International Schools in the area helps. However with the uncertainties in the market, I am curious to know if the long term outcome.
Recently visited the show unit of Suasana Sentral - The Loft. Beautiful. Strategic location hence I believe very good for investment. Any thoughts?
Comment by Jen — October 1, 2005 @ 7:27 am
jen,
a lot od expats i know highly recommend suasana the loft. unfortunately we didn’t have a chance to see it. kiaraville is promoting heavily in HK and singapore. i think the price will most likely increase after completion.
Comment by Administrator — October 2, 2005 @ 2:24 pm
are they giving good discounts for kiaraville now?
Comment by Jen — October 5, 2005 @ 2:35 am
jen,
not that we know of, not many units available for Malaysians. but its best to check with the sales people.
Comment by Administrator — October 5, 2005 @ 2:44 am
thanks. a very diplomatic answer. what did you hear in the market?
Comment by Jen — October 5, 2005 @ 5:18 am
sales very good. anyways they have blocked off many units for Singapore and HK.
Comment by Administrator — October 5, 2005 @ 6:07 am
right. doesn’t make sense. what’s the real objective behind this if they can sell the units to fellow countrymen/women? especially with the investment of the show-units @kiara. what are your views on this?
Comment by Jen — October 5, 2005 @ 9:10 am
i suppose its up to them, since OCBC & Capitaland are Singaporean corps. Besides, selling to foreigners they can get better pricing. If selling to Malaysians, they’ll sell out too, but maybe slower. Everybody wants to make more money and faster.
Comment by Administrator — October 5, 2005 @ 9:15 am
Admin, i heard they are kiaraville 2 next week?
Comment by Jen — October 5, 2005 @ 11:04 am
Admin, i heard they are launching kiaraville 2 next week?
Comment by Jen — October 5, 2005 @ 11:07 am
so soon? must drop by la, like this…
Comment by Administrator — October 5, 2005 @ 2:35 pm
i have checked with the one of the agent, it is just a relaunch of kiaraville. the launch of kiaraville 2 is prob mid next year.
Comment by Jen — October 6, 2005 @ 1:55 am
Kiaraville is lauching a new phase from the 14th of oct, heard the new showroom is done as well, and they’re launching it together with an artist named Eng Tay its supposed to be an art gallery cum launch, sounds intresting. probably out of my budget but, its nice to dream
Comment by Kelvin — October 11, 2005 @ 1:33 pm
kelvin,
we love to dream, too..!
Comment by Administrator — October 12, 2005 @ 2:34 am
my dream too….would it be any food served… i can afford to eat …ha ha
Comment by jen — October 12, 2005 @ 12:07 pm
jen,
i believe there would be. interesting concept actually.
Comment by Jen — October 13, 2005 @ 5:17 am
i will go to visit the show unit on saturday…too bad i cannot go on launching date, hear a minister is opening the ceremony…..i wish i own one unit there… but it beyond my budget…
Comment by jen — October 13, 2005 @ 1:57 pm
last time they launched, i heard they served Strudelz… hmmm…
Comment by Administrator — October 13, 2005 @ 2:01 pm
strudels!! i’m there
Comment by kelvin — October 13, 2005 @ 7:25 pm
introduced by friend to drop by this website… seen the kiaraville website,it pretty good, will be drop by the show unit may be next week before fly back to Hong Kong.. i remembered, i saw thier exhibition in Hong Kong…feed back was good heard…. wonder how many of us bought here..
Comment by Ben — October 13, 2005 @ 11:03 pm
thanks for dropping by, ben.
i think the units were well received by malaysians. some people i know bought there.
Comment by Administrator — October 14, 2005 @ 3:24 pm
I was there during the weekend. Nothing exciting - mainly to highlight the new show unit and the showcase of Eng Tay’s paintings (small % of the sales will go to charity).
Comment by Jen — October 17, 2005 @ 5:13 am
wah, marketing people come up with new things all the time…
Comment by Administrator — October 18, 2005 @ 4:33 am
i was there that day, it a good way to promote project like that, supprisingly the painting sold quite well. the one most expensive RM110K also sold…… i can’t belive it!
the show unit are nice.. but it bit dark..the ID seem like Black colour …i feel not comfortable.. but the layout is great…big yard i like.. and the shower area was too open.. large opening… i suppose it current trend.. like to let your neighbours watch at u when showering.. haha .
Comment by Benyoon — October 18, 2005 @ 2:23 pm
benyoon,
you’re right about the open toilet ting. we’re seeing it everywhere, stonor suria etc. you won’t see us using it, that’s for sure!
Comment by Administrator — October 19, 2005 @ 3:26 am
What percentage of units are already sold ? Any of the smaller units left?
Comment by steve — November 2, 2005 @ 2:28 pm
steve,
it’s best to check with the developer for the latest info. Contact number is given above.
Comment by Administrator — November 3, 2005 @ 2:53 am
It’s about 80% sold at this point. This project has the best units layout in the MK area at this point.
Comment by caveman — February 4, 2006 @ 9:38 am
Caveman, did you buy a unit there ?
Comment by deathstar — February 6, 2006 @ 2:06 am
yes, almost all the good units are gone.
Comment by caveman — February 8, 2006 @ 8:51 am
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Comment by (deleted) — February 10, 2006 @ 5:43 pm
Which do you think is the “best” development in Mont’ Kiara at the moment? I think Hijauan Kiara is currently the most exclusive and upmarket development to date. Only 188 units with private lift, spa island, etc. versus 404 units in Kiaraville. I’m waiting to see what Sunrise can come up with their MK 10 @ Kiara but it sounds like that development will be more high density than Hijauan Kiara with 340 units and two 44 story blocks. Anyone knows when Sunrise will be launching MK 20?
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Comment by (deleted) — February 21, 2006 @ 12:02 pm
Ghiaretto,
i agree that the quality of the earlier condos by sunrise were better. in the face of the competition, they should seriously into it.
Comment by Administrator — February 21, 2006 @ 1:43 pm
kiara watcher,
its really impossible to say which is the ‘best’ development, it depends on what you are looking for - price, location, size of unit, facilities, etc.
Comment by Administrator — February 21, 2006 @ 1:53 pm
Hello administrator,
I’m looking for a high-end unit with good layout/finishing and location. Size > 2000sq ft. Price > RM1 million. Currently, I think the developments that might fit my criteria are Hijauan Kiara, Mont’ Kiara Damai and Kiaraville. Heard that Sunrise might be launching another development MK10 which they claim will be 6 star. Would like to know what you guys think of these developments in terms of pros/cons and which would be the “best” among this lot in terms of balance between price and what you get. Thanks!
Comment by kiara watcher — February 26, 2006 @ 8:54 pm
Hi Ghiaretto
You viewed units in Mont’ Kiara Aman? I’m surprised that you’ve listed so many defects in the condo as the Sunrise sales people seems to be selling it as a 5 start development similar to Damai. I’m starting to doubt their claims for their upcomming MK 10 which I think they will be pricing at > RM500 PSF (most expensive PSF for an uncompleted unit). You have any info on MK10?
Comment by kiara watcher — February 26, 2006 @ 8:59 pm
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Comment by (deleted) — February 27, 2006 @ 8:50 pm
I thought Sunrise shareholders are Tong Kooi Ong & Alan Lim… are they related to Berjaya?
In terms of quality of Aman deteriorating, i suppose it must be with regards to workmanship right, coz compared to Astana and Bayu, the materials/ finishing do look higher grade. I do have to say that Aman has a few design flaws like toilet door opening into WC and 1668sqft unit sandwiched without light.
As for kiaraville, I like -
a. A lot of light coming through (except for type B units)
b. bedrooms away from living room
c. comes with bedroom cabinets on top of competitive pricing (just under RM400/sqft with discount)
Worries
a. That the level of capitaland’s involvement moving forward will be minimal (i.e. quality control, management)
b. near highway
c. congestion from Kiaraville2, Solaris, La Grande, Tiffany and even hartamas regency 1 & 2 will be ‘nearby’ when the bridge is completed)
d. put up with construction of tiffany and kiaraville2 for first few years
I’m actually considering a unit for own stay there but not much choice left, got a few near the highway facing Genting. What d’ya think?
Comment by heythere — February 28, 2006 @ 9:41 am
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Comment by (deleted) — February 28, 2006 @ 10:02 am
wow, thanks for the feedback on Aman. I know some people who have units in Aman. Will ask them to watch out. Actually, i even drove into Aman the other day and they didn’t ask me for my IC/ driving license.
I wonder how Banyan would be like? Its suppose to be of even lower quality than Aman and yet the pricing was already about RM425/sqft.
Actually, for Hijauan, its a pity that the highway is close by and also the high tension wire. Maybe the Tongs will built a huge dome made of greens to shelter Hijauan and Verve from highway and high tension wire
i feel the pricing is really quite good actually… considering the niche.
I saw hartamas regency2 recently and they’re throwing in semi-furnishing (including fridge) at the moment but for RM400+/sqft, its not really cheap considering the high tension wire is even nearer than that for hijauan (IMO) and the whole landscape is essentialy just one swimming pool.
Kiaraville would be just next to Solaris … is that more of a pro (i.e. convenience) or a con (i.e. traffic/ congestion)?
Comment by heythere — February 28, 2006 @ 10:29 am
oh .. actually i’ve confused myself … i thought tiffany is the 400-unit building that ireka is building in the remaining piece of land between
a. la grande
b. solaris
c. kiaraville
d. ireka bungalows
e. The residence (sunrise bungalows)
It looks like quite a small piece of land though. suppose to be 400 units. Actually, i thought it was gonna be something like iZen @ Aseana Villas. I’m not quite sure now, could someone clarify?
Comment by heythere — February 28, 2006 @ 10:55 am
ok, to clarify … izen @ villa aseana is the landed property (which i earlier called Ireka bungalows) whereas izen @ tiffani is the proposed 400-unit condo.
Comment by heythere — February 28, 2006 @ 11:13 am
A big Kiaraville con for me is that it’s next to the highway and it’ll be really noisy. Although Kiaraville’s windows will be double glazed, that would mean that windows cannot be open for fresh air because of noise from highway, construction site next door and solaris.
Apart from that, i think kiaraville’s layout is very good and the bathrooms are quite well finished.
Am very interested in Hijauan Kiara too but unsure about the high tension wires. So far no absolute conclusive evidence about the harmful effects of high tension wires (some reports say there is some say not). But am worried that the moment a conclusive report does come out that high tension wires does produce harmful effects, the value of the property will snowdive. Still considering between Kiaraville and Hijauan Kiara… what do u all think?
Ghiaretto…why do u rate Hijauan’s location worse off than Kiaraville? Hijauan’s location has fewer condos hence less congestion?
Comment by Aylatan — February 28, 2006 @ 11:15 am
Heythere,
I’ve also heard about Banyan being 4-star finishing. At the rate the quality has been diminishing in Aman’s 5-star condo, Banyan’s finishing is a real suspicion. The layout doesn’t look impressive at all to me.
Also there’s the kampung behind Banyan to consider as well as the empty land next door that no one knows what’s gonna happen to it.
Despite all these, it was almost fully sold before the launch! Really wonder why. Maybe there’s something i’m missing out here.
Comment by Aylatan — February 28, 2006 @ 11:33 am
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Comment by (deleted) — February 28, 2006 @ 3:03 pm
Ghiaretto, thanks for your feedback.
I have gone to Kiaraville showroom and listened to the highway noise from the window, it is significant enough for u to want to close the window. But yeah, the windows are made of thicker glass so it is sufficient enough to block off the noise. But that means, the condo has to be fully air-conned at all times. I prefer having some fresh air now and then esp when feeling sick.
With regards to Hijauan, i didn’t mind that Kiaramas Sutera was above it but minded the high tension wires a little. But i guess i’d trust BKP to do enough research about the wires before building something there and risking their reputation.
Also I felt that Hijauan Kiara is nearer the main road so it was easier to get out of Mt Kiara and miss all the congestion. Whereas Kiaraville is quite deep inside MK which means having to travel past ALL the other condos to get out to PJ, where i normally go to. But heading towards KL would be more convenient with the new road.
Still in dilemma… I really really like Hijauan Kiara’s design and facilities (i should be able to get a B unit there) but unsure of the hightension wires. I quite like Kiaraville, but afraid of jam and highway noise, and unsure of management in future. So have to really weigh pros and cons. Which would have better appreciation? hmm….
Comment by Aylatan — February 28, 2006 @ 4:34 pm
Hi Ghiaretto!
Thanks for your views. Just curious, as you seem to know a lot about Mont’ Kiara, are you currently living there or are you intending to buy a unit there? Do you have any information on MK10? From what you have stated, it sounds like MK10 will be a bit too high density for the exhorbitant price that they are asking for.
Comment by kiara watcher — March 1, 2006 @ 4:05 pm
Hi Aylatan,
I’m in the same situation as you. Cannot decide which one to buy. In my opinion, Hijauan Kiara would be a better choice than Kiaraville due to:
1) Higher exclusivity 188 units in Hijauan vs 404 units in Kiaraville
2) More disctinctive facilities, e.g. Spa island, 2 big pools, etc.
3) More innovative concept - private lift, sunken bath
4) More “exclusive” location as what you have pointed out. Also, I think that Hijauan Kiara is closer to more “green areas” so it should be more peaceful and cooler. You can check out Google Earth to see what the site looks like from the air.
5) Alan Tong is the developer of Hijauan. Note that Capitaland is the financier of Kiaraville but not doing the construction which is done by Binaderas
The only potential downside of Hijauan is that it is close to the high tension wires but so is Kiaramas Sutera and Kiara Hills. The evidence on health risks is inconclusive so it’s up to you as to whether you believe that they will be a health risk or not.
If you get Type B, I think it should be quite OK already as it should be quite a distance from the high tension wires and closer to Aman Kiara. Also, you would already be ‘protected’ by 2 other blocks. I think the quality should also be good as this is Alan Tong’s first condo project since he exited from Sunrise so he will definitely want to prove to the market that his new company Bukit Kiara Properties is able to produce better products than Sunrise.
In terms of price appreciation, I think Hijauan clearly has the edge because there are limited units there, only 188 units so there should be less competition when it is time to sell.
Anybody have an idea of how the units in Kiaramas Sutera are doing as they are even closer to the high tension wires than Hijauan?
Comment by kiara watcher — March 1, 2006 @ 4:08 pm
everyone,
i dunno whether it will clarify anything or make things more confusing, we’ve just posted our review of hijauan kiara…
http://propertymalaysia.blogsome.com/2006/03/01/hijauan-kiara-montkiara/
next up will be kiaramas ayuria and the verve suites.
Comment by Administrator — March 1, 2006 @ 4:15 pm
Hi Administrator,
Thanks for reviewing Hijauan Kiara. I’m planning to do a mega visit of properties in Mont’ Kiara this weekend. Besides those new developments that you’ve already reviewed in this site, which other developments would you recommend that I visit?
Do you think it would be worth the time to look at completed properties like Aman & Damai or are they too expensive that I shouldn’t even consider?
Any idea where is this Tiffany that some people have talked about? I thought it was supposed to be a high-end development by Ireka?
Comment by kiara watcher — March 2, 2006 @ 11:40 am
actually you can spend the good part of a day to visit all the available condos. if you’re going this weekend, you can check out verve suits (same office as hijauan) and kiaramas ayuria, solaris, so many more…
for completed properties usually the good units have been long taken up, so you can drop by to see, but don’t expect much.
Maybe Ghiaretto or someone else can help us out on tiffany?
Comment by Administrator — March 2, 2006 @ 12:13 pm
For tiffani, they’re building the showroom which is just right in front of solaris mont kiara. I dun think its ready for visitors yet, but you can always knock on the door or break in
Comment by heythere — March 2, 2006 @ 3:01 pm
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Comment by (deleted) — March 2, 2006 @ 3:47 pm
BTW, you guys do know there is a Meridin project by Sunrise that’s launched recently right? It’s one lot after Banyan & next to the NKVE. Worth a visit to Sunrise property showcase on this Saturday to get a feel of the current market trends.
Comment by Ghiaretto — March 2, 2006 @ 3:52 pm
Tiffani is by Ireka, i heard its 400 units but have heard nothing else.
You can also take a look at Kiara1888 whose sales office is on the same road as Yogazone in Plaza Damas. Also, across the NKVE near where Solaris Dutamas is going to be built, you can take a look at Hartamas Regency 2 showroom & sales office. Can check out the Hartamas Regency review on this website for location, contact, etc.
Comment by heythere — March 2, 2006 @ 5:58 pm
Thanks to everyone for all the input. Will update the group on what I find out this weekend.
In spite of all the competition and new condos coming up in Mont’ Kiara, prices are still on the uptrend. Wonder when will prices peak and how will rentals hold up once all the luxury condo’s near KLCC are completed in 2 years time.
Properties near KLCC are definitely more expensive than Mont’ Kiara on a psf and absolute basis (due to larger sizes) but the quality/finishing also does look much better and more luxurious. Land around KLCC is also much more expensive. Sometimes I really wonder whether the developers in Mont’ Kiara are milking us buyers by providing much lower quality products while charging much higher prices.
Comment by kiara watcher — March 2, 2006 @ 11:44 pm
Hey all, came across this I had read all of it. Recently looking for a property in this area. Just wonder does any one has any idea about Tiffani price range ?
Comment by Jun Chan — March 2, 2006 @ 11:53 pm
i think the range of prices in MK at 350-450psf is still reasonable, no developer wants to stick their neck out too high above the 500psf price range… but yes, its still on the uptrend slowly.
as for klcc, the prices start FROM RM600psf up until RM1000psf… already a lot of people are saying there are too many condos. The prices there have definitely peaked. i think some of the investors there may have problems looking for tenants in 2 years time…
Comment by Administrator — March 2, 2006 @ 11:54 pm
Hi everyone,
Anyone can provide more information on the viability of buying a suite (2 bedroom unit) for investment purposes? I’m considering either Verve Suites by BKP or Designer Suites@Solaris Dutamas by Sunrise. What are the pros and cons of those developments.
Or for that kind of money, am I better off investing in a terraced house somewhere else?
Comment by kiara watcher — March 6, 2006 @ 12:56 am
I managed to check out a couple of properties in Mont’ Kiara during the weekend. Here’s my opinion on some of the condominium developments there. I’ve rated them in descending order based on some criteria.
Top Tier Condo Developments: Hijauan Kiara, 10@Mont’ Kiara, and Kiaraville
Exclusivity/Density
1) Hijauan Kiara – 35 units per arce (188 units on 5.4 arces)
2) 10@Mont’ Kiara – 47 units per arce (340 units on 7.3 arces)
3) Kiaraville – 64 units per arce (404 units on 6.3 arces)
Out of the 3, Hijauan Kiara is clearly the most exclusive with only Mont’ Kiara Damai having a lower density than Hijauan Kiara. All future developments are unlikely to have a much higher density as the land prices have gone up significantly in Mont’ Kiara. This explains the higher density for 10@Mont’ Kiara even though Sunrise is marketing it as a 6 Star condo versus Mont’ Kiara Damai which is a 5 Star condo.
Location
1) 10@Mont’ Kiara
2) Hijauan Kiara
3) Kiaraville
This is a bit subjective as it depends what you are looking for. I’ve rated 10@Mont’ Kiara first because it offers the best balance between being near amenities (Plaza Mont’ Kiara) while not being too close, i.e. it is located at the end of Jalan Kiara 1. Hijauan Kiara has the most “peaceful” location as there are currently on 2 condos on Jalan Kiara 5 which is Hijauan Kiara and Verve Suites. The Verve shops will make Hijauan Kiara more convenient. Kiaraville is rated last because it is directly next to the busy NKVE and hence will be very noisy. It is also next to Solaris@Mont’ Kiara which will make it convenient but you can expect traffic congestion and more noise from all the activity.
Value/Price
1) Kiaraville
2) Hijauan Kiara
3) 10@ Mont’ Kiara
Again, this is a bit subjective depending how you evaluate this. Based on the materials/finishing provided in the units, Kiaraville would offer the best value as it is priced at RM400+ psf and includes wardrobes, kitchen cabinets, etc. while Hijauan Kiara is priced similarly but does not include all those built-ins. However, from a total density standpoint, it can be argued that Hijauan offers more value as there are fewer units and hence, you “own” more of the land as opposed to Kiaraville. 10@Mont’ Kiara is a bit overpriced with average prices expected to be at RM550 psf. Also units in 10@Mont’ Kiara will cost a minimum of RM1.7million upwards as sizes start at 3,200 sf. In spite of this, the units in 10@Mont’ Kiara will all be only 4 bedroom units so the layouts have wasted a lot of space by having an unusually large dry and wet kitchen, etc.
Facilities
1) Hijauan Kiara
2) Kiaraville
3) 10@Mont’ Kiara
Once again, Alan Tong proves to be a pioneer by introducing a Spa island, sunken bath, private lift, etc. which is the first of its kind in Mont’ Kiara. Kiaraville comes second with its landscaped garden and infinity adults’ pool. Third is 10@Mont’ Kiara with the ‘standard’ Sunrise layout of having the facilities somewhat separated from the condos versus Hijauan and Kiaraville where the condos embrace the facilities. 10@Mont’Kiara is also trying to have a creeper garden throughout the development which results in a lot of beams/columns – very closed feeling that I really don’t like.
Developer
1) Hijauan Kiara – Alan Tong
2) 10@Mont’ Kiara – Sunrise
3) Kiaraville – Binaderas
Alan Tong is Malaysia’s condo king. Sunrise is synonymous with Mont’ Kiara and has a good management track record. Binaderas is still quite new and is unproven.
Layouts
1) Hijauan Kiara
2) Kiaraville
3) 10@Mont’ Kiara
Again, this is a very subjective area. I like Hijauan because of the squarish practical design which maximized the usage of space. Kiaraville has the widest choice to meet all taste but I just didn’t like all the nooks and corners as much as Hijauan’s simple yet practical design. 10@Mont’ Kiara has a lot of wasted in-between space and it looks like they increased the sizes of the units just to charge more as a lot of the space cannot be used practically due to the layout.
Overall
1) Hijauan Kiara
2) Kiaraville
3) 10@Mont’ Kiara
Depending on what you are looking for, each development has its own pros and cons. Hijauan Kiara would appeal to those who want exclusivity while providing good value for the type of facilities/concepts with units. Kiaraville would suite those with a slightly lower budget who also likes good facilities but doesn’t mind sharing it with more people. It also offers good convenience but also more noise/traffic. 10@Mont’ Kiara will be only for millionaires as units start from RM1.7million. It will have the snob appeal for those who are fanatically loyal to Sunrise while providing large units starting from 3,200 sf.
Other Upcoming Developments
Some other upcoming developments in Mont’ Kiara will be
1) Tiffany by Ireka which will be a 400 unit condo next to Solaris
2) Kiaraville 2 which will be next to Kiaraville
3) YNH project next to Lanai Kiara on Jalan Kiara 3
Other Second Tier Condo Developments
Some other developments that I looked at were:
1) Mont’ Kiara Meridin by Sunrise – typical standard Sunrise but located right next to the NKVE and hence dodn’t interest me too much.
2) Kiara 1888 – attractive pricing but I think that is due to the location which is right next to the kampung. In fact, I would urge anyone considering Kiara 1888 to visit the site as the kampong is located directly beside and in front of the development. After I visited the site, I immediately ruled out Kiara 1888.
3) Hartamas Regency – didn’t like the look/location and felt that their pricing was too high given what was on offer. It was also extremely close to the high tension wires.
4) Kiaramas Ayuria by Asiaquest – Worth checking out as it does offer quite good value for those with smaller budgets. Only thing is that sales are not as good as the other developments so I’m not sure whether there is some particular reason for the slow sales which I don’t know about – bad quality or management?
Designer Suites
I looked at Verve Suites by Alan Tong and Designer Suites @ Solaris Dutamas by Sunrise. Verve show units were really nice and they offered some very good facilities like a heated pool with all the other usual full condo facilities. Designer Suites only had some basic facilities like a small swimming pool but it is located on top of a major commercial development which I’m not sure whether is a pro/con.
I would really appreciate it if anyone could help provide more insight on the market for designer suites and whether these would make good investments?
Comment by kiara watcher — March 7, 2006 @ 5:13 pm
kiara watcher,
wow! thanks for the feedback, i’m sure lots of other buyers will ifnd your views helpful. definitely we feel that hijauan and kiaraville are heads above the rest of the competition.
i must go and see this 10@mont’kiara everyone is talking about…
Comment by Administrator — March 7, 2006 @ 5:21 pm
Dear administrator and Kiara Watcher,
Really a detail analysis, I find it helpful.
This is a little bit out of the topic, but if someone know the procedure etc.. could you please advise ?
I am a Malaysian working long term oversea but hoping to buy a property in this area for investment purporse. My question is that how those legal procedure could be eliminated ? As I could not be home every time for signature etc … Do you think if I authorize one of my family member in doing it for me will be helpful and what will be the bottleneck / extra cost etc in doing this ?
Jun Chan
Comment by Jun Chan — March 8, 2006 @ 7:27 pm
Check with a Malaysian lawyer on giving the Power of Attorney to whomever you choose to sign legal docs on your behalf. You may be able to do it.
Comment by eagle — March 10, 2006 @ 11:50 am
Dear Eagle
Thanks for your information, so this POA will help, right.
Do you think this will also do with the bank loan, under my name but my representative could sign everything for me ?
Comment by Jun Chan — March 10, 2006 @ 9:11 pm
Hi Administrator,
10@Mont’Kiara has not been officially launched yet. They have the floor plans and site plans plus some concept pictures on display at the Sunrise Sales office. I was told that they are building a showflat which should be ready sometime in the middle of the year.
If you do decide to visit the Sunrise Sales Office at Plaza Mont’ Kiara, there are 2 properties that you can review - Mont’ Kiara Meridin (a new development with an LCD TV in the bathroom!) and Designer Suites @ Solaris Dutamas (this development will be next to Duta Tropika and Hartamas Heights).
Comment by kiara watcher — March 13, 2006 @ 6:35 pm
Sunrise doing a showflat? Given Sunrise’s track record, you mean they are doing a showflat? I think the Sun will rise from the west!
Comment by Arnold — March 27, 2006 @ 2:10 pm
Yes, that’s what their sales people told me. It’s supposed to be located at their show village which is right next to the MK10 site. Remember, this is MK10 we’re talking about where they intend to charge exhorbitant prices of RM550psf with units starting from RM1.7 million and above! Without an excellent show flat, how can they expect people to part with that kind of money?
Comment by kiara watcher — March 28, 2006 @ 10:47 am
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Comment by (deleted) — March 30, 2006 @ 7:22 pm
Hi ghiaretto,
Did you get the information from the developers? Any idea on the sizes of the units and market positioning/unique facilities?
From what you’ve listed, sounds like the developments will be of very high density. Pricing is also quite high so they must be giving some very good finishes if they intend to change those kind of prices for that high density. This really makes Kiaraville 1, Hijauan Kiara, Kiara 1888, Meridin and Kiaramas Ayuria look very cheap in comparison.
With this 1000 additional units together with the 340 units from MK10, the market might be getting a bit saturated and congested.
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Comment by (deleted) — April 4, 2006 @ 3:18 pm
Yes, only big units and undesirable units are left in Kiaraville 1.
Sounds like Kiaraville 2 is copying Hijauan Kiara in terms of concept (spa & private lifts). Out of the 3 new projects in the pipeline, MK10, Kiaraville 2 and Tiffani, which would be your preferred choice and why?
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Comment by (deleted) — April 5, 2006 @ 4:57 pm
The showroom for Tiffani by i-Zen will be opened to public this weekend (6th May onwards). It’s not the official launch yet, but apparently bookings are allowed.
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Comment by (deleted) — May 10, 2006 @ 9:16 am
Kiaraville 1 is left with “unappealing” units. The discount has gone down from 10% to 8% to 6%.
Ireka is going to launch Tiffani@I-zen in June:
399 units
3 blocks
4 acres
100 units/acre
RM440psf fully furnished (10% early bird discount)
Kiaraville 2 to be launched end 2006:
600 units
4 blocks
8 acres
75 units/acre
RM450psf (10% early bird discount)
Comment by ghiaretto — March 30, 2006 @ 7:22 pm
Hi Ghiartto
Visited Tiffani@I-zen showroom today they are given 10% discount but not fully furnished. The price from 440 up
Comment by Neil — May 13, 2006 @ 6:31 pm
Any more information on Tiffanu@I-Zen?
Has 10@Mont’ Kiara been launched yet?
Comment by kiara watcher — May 15, 2006 @ 1:28 am
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Comment by (deleted) — May 18, 2006 @ 3:14 pm
OK. I will try and visit Tiffani to see what they are offering. At 440 psf, it looks like prices are still trending upwards in Mont’ Kiara and given that high density of 1,000 units per acre, it really seems overpriced. Any idea how the sales are doing?
Any other new developments that have opened for booking yet in Mont Kiara?
For the Bangsar condo on Jalan Merenung, I was told that they are having a booth in Bangsar shopping centre to promote the development. Supposed to be a high end development but I think it’s just absurd for them to be pricing it at RM700psf with unit sizes of 4000sf and above! At that price, you could buy a new semi-d in Damansara Heights or Kenny Hills!
Comment by kiara watcher — May 19, 2006 @ 4:41 pm
Tiffani by i-ZEN has been reviewed, click on the link to view it…
Comment by Administrator — May 20, 2006 @ 9:47 pm
Hi Administrator and/ or Moderator,
How do we get in contact with you, i.e. what is your email address?
Comment by benji — May 23, 2006 @ 11:34 pm
what stage is the development ? any one know please input
Comment by ckchen — June 29, 2006 @ 1:43 pm
Check out this link dude. Shows progress online. Really cool:
http://www.pjdprop.com.my/hartamas/camera.asp
Comment by Bill — July 1, 2006 @ 4:06 am
I find the comments here very informative. Anyone has the details of Kiaraville 2.
Comment by Novice — July 23, 2006 @ 11:10 pm
I checked with the sales ppl and they mentioned Kiaraville 2 will be launched end of this year - all BIG units (starting from 2000+), price starting from 480–>500 psf
Comment by dtpm — July 29, 2006 @ 2:37 am
Anyone have news on 10@Mont’Kiara, Kiaraville 2 and the YNH project?
Comment by kiara watcher — August 16, 2006 @ 1:22 am
I think you better wait for Kiaraville 2 since you are buying for own stay. Let’s wait and see how Kiaraville turn out to be and what the buyers gonna say about kairaville. I want to get one for own stay too but the units left are totally unappealing, no point to force myself to get something i don’t really like although its rather cheap compare to others high end developments. More over I don’t like seeing the trucks everydays and the area will be very very dusty and noisy until Kiaraville 2 is completed. Although Kiaraville 2 is more expensive but I am sure it is more value for money than MK10.
Comment by boogeyman — August 24, 2006 @ 11:03 am
anymore news about kiaraville lately?
Comment by boogeyman — September 18, 2006 @ 4:11 pm
they’ve released Kiaraville 2, haven’t they?
Comment by Administrator — September 18, 2006 @ 6:03 pm
Kiaraville 2 will be open booking on early 2007 and price at RM480/sq ft
Comment by yschin — September 30, 2006 @ 7:13 pm
Stop!! In the name of love!!
RM480 psf, minimum size is 2340sf so cheapest entry price is over a million. But it is only slightly more expensive than Kiaraville 1. So is it better to get Kiaraville 2 since it is not very much difference in price and Kiaraville 2 sure have much better quality/finishes/facilities.
Comment by boogeyman — October 11, 2006 @ 2:16 pm
any one receive invoice ??
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — November 5, 2006 @ 1:14 pm
10@Mont’Kiara has been launched by Sunrise and has been selling like hotcakes. More than 80% sold already with most units starting at RM1.8 million and above. I think it was a bit too overhyped due to the Sunrise brand name. In my opinion, there was really nothing impressive about the development besides Sunrise touting it as a 6 star development. Facilities are the same as the other developments so nothing much to shout about besides the huge apartment sizes. Also, there is no squash court. The Sunrise salespeople were also very cocky and “allocated” units to customers, i.e. they would choose which unit they could sell to you. Also, the views from the units will be blocked by future developments and even the Sunrise people say this as they don’t own the adjoining parcel of land. If you look at the location map, Kiaraville 2 will block it’s view at a distance. The only pitch that the salepeople had were “It’s by Sunrise so you can’t go wrong”. Nothing much else to sell the development.
Hijauan Kiara still leads the pack in terms of innovation with their spa concept and I think Kiaraville is also better laid out with a bigger main pool and also adult’s pool. Heard that Kiaraville 2 will becoming out with some sort of island concept so that should be interesting.
Comment by kiara watcher — November 7, 2006 @ 10:22 am
subsale price for 10@MontKiara will be at least 2.3M, I’ll pick Kiaraville type G anytime. You are paying at least 20% of the selling price for the brand. Kiaraville Type G is now going for around 1.25M after discount, you are paying 550k for the Sunrise Brand!!!
The location of MK10 is very nice though, good for retirees!! Solaris@MontKiara will be a big plus for Tiffany/Kiaraville and maybe the “already dead” Le Grande.
Comment by boogeyman — November 8, 2006 @ 3:16 pm
Does anyone know if there is a market for resale Kiaraville units? Just moved overseas for a new job and looking to offload my Kiaraville purchase.
Comment by Kiaraville Owner-pool — November 10, 2006 @ 12:36 am
what type is your unit? price you want to offload for? which floor is it?
Comment by boogeyman — November 10, 2006 @ 12:40 am
please send more information to knm1129@yahoo.com.my
Comment by boogeyman — November 10, 2006 @ 12:49 am
I dont think you can sub-sale your uncompleted unit coz the s&p stated “can not transfer within construction period”
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — November 11, 2006 @ 11:59 am
You can sell your unit if you got consent from the developer. Email me the information of your unit such as built up, type of unit, number as well as price if you want to sell, I am interested. Have a nice day!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 11, 2006 @ 3:45 pm
please let me know if you can get the consent from development before complete.
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — November 11, 2006 @ 9:35 pm
Please forward me the details of your unit, such as type of unit, block and number, selling price etc. The developer want to know which unit you want to sell and I want to know what price you selling. Awaiting!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 13, 2006 @ 10:44 am
J L, is that you?
Comment by ??? — November 14, 2006 @ 2:44 pm
Boogeyman,
Are you sure Type G is going for RM1.25m? This works out to be RM367psf, since they are about 3400sf. Isn’t this a catch? Thx.
Comment by KV Fan — November 15, 2006 @ 6:31 pm
I said it was going for as low as 1.25m but now the cheapest would be 1.27m or something like that. Type G is selling at average 370sf after discount, not sure why Binaderas doing that. To be exact, it is 3410sf, near perfect layout. Still have few units of Type G available and I am considering getting one since my prefer unit Type C is sold out year ago.
Comment by boogeyman — November 15, 2006 @ 9:27 pm
Thx Boogeyman.
Comment by KV Fan — November 15, 2006 @ 9:43 pm
Thx Boogeyman.
Comment by KV Fan — November 15, 2006 @ 9:44 pm
I assume you are Kiaravile Fan, you got a unit there? heard that the discount is now only 2% no more than that!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 15, 2006 @ 10:38 pm
Yea, I got one there. Hopefully a worthwhile investment. If there’s anymore good buy in KV, will consider buying another one.
Comment by KV Fan — November 15, 2006 @ 10:44 pm
Is Kiaraville comparable to Sunrise’s Aman?
Comment by KV Fan — November 15, 2006 @ 10:48 pm
Sunrise’s Aman and Kiaraville, I’ll take Kiaraville anytime!! I dont want to pay more for the brand Sunrise. I’ve been to some Aman units, the layout is terrific bad for the price you pay, the living room is huge but bedrooms are way too small…..quality of finishes is considered bad for the price you pay. But Kiaraville is not completed yet, so thats the risk!! If Binaderas deliver as promised, you will be a happy home owner!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 15, 2006 @ 11:54 pm
Is it still worth it to buy the remaining units in Kiaraville? I know these are unpleasing units, but if KV is better value, then why not? Worse to worse, rent it out cheaper or flip it for less profit.
Comment by KV Fan — November 16, 2006 @ 1:07 am
The quality shoudl be good - one of capitaland’s first foray into m’sia. So dun think they will screw that up..my 2 cents
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — November 16, 2006 @ 1:09 am
I share your view. If Binaderas delivers what they promised, they will be the favourite in MK. I think they will be the new Sunrise in MK.
Comment by KV Fan — November 16, 2006 @ 1:18 am
KV - If you want to consider a resale unit - email me at contact@drexo.com
Comment by Kiaraville Owner-pool — November 16, 2006 @ 1:20 am
Type G is the best bet for the time being as others remaining units are not appealling at all unless you are talking about the smallest unit which is Type B, they still have 2 nice units which is on 27th and 29th floor, price higher than Type D and F. I’ll most probably go with the Type G, 370psf, private lift lobby!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 16, 2006 @ 10:34 am
I have a unit (type c, Blk A) any one interested? Please let your message.
Comment by Type C owner — November 17, 2006 @ 5:56 pm
Which floor? What was ur purchase price?
Comment by KV Fan — November 17, 2006 @ 7:22 pm
Hi Type C owner, send information suc as price, unit number and floor to knm1129@yahoo.com.my, am interested in the Type C if price is right I’ll buy!!!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 17, 2006 @ 11:05 pm
I’ve been to Kiaraville showroom this afternoon but unfortunately the saleperson was very unfriendly and kind of like “look me no up” attitude, it was the short young boy who “serve” me but dont understand why Binaderas would employ a boy like him who just surf the net most of the time.
Type G will most likely be the one I am going to purchase, after discount 1.29m for the 3rd floor.
Comment by boogeyman — November 17, 2006 @ 11:09 pm
Boogeyman, it seems location of Type G is not so nice coz it is on slightly lower ground - no views & eclipsed by other blocks esp Block 1 & 2. Also the lanai and possibly the masterbedroom will get direct sun. The back of the unit will have the highway closeby…noise. WIth many units left, ur units will have difficulty to appreciate upon completion. Just my 2 cents worth.
Comment by KV Fan — November 18, 2006 @ 1:59 am
pool and landscape view is good as the KLCC view for Type C and E will be blocked by the development opposite 2 years later, am prefer landscape and pool view actually. As for the highway noise, take a look at the layout plan and you will find that there will be no noise problem for Type G as facing the highway will be the garden terrace which is in the entrance, window will be double glazed anyway. It is facing west so it might be a little hot in the noon, all these can be compromised by the lower price tag which is around 370psf whereas other is over 400psf. But type G is rather huge for a small family so I am actually looking at Type C so if Type C owner is right then I’ll grab it if not then Type G.
What type is yours?
Comment by boogeyman — November 18, 2006 @ 10:54 am
Hi Boogeyman
Sent details to your account already. Do you interested Kiaramas Cendana unit (2,500 SQ Ft)
Comment by Type C owner — November 18, 2006 @ 3:24 pm
Thanks for your mail Type C owner, already replied you. Good luck with your sale mate!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 18, 2006 @ 11:25 pm
Boogeyman, the price u will pay for a Type C will be about the price of a Type G. May as well go for Type G.
I have a Type D.
Comment by KV Fan — November 19, 2006 @ 3:13 am
Type C’s developer price is still ok but his asking price is close to Type G, plus the legal fees and stamp duty for both SPA and loan agreement, the difference is only RM40,000, extra 40k for an extra 915sf, you do your math. Type C will have better capital gain upon completion, not now because developer still have around 30 units available.
Your Type D is on block C? facing the la grande and solaris?
Comment by boogeyman — November 19, 2006 @ 11:19 am
KV Fan, have you taken the kitchen package? 2.4k for hood and hob sound like a good deal as they install them for you before vacant possession!! I am thinking of getting the fisher and paykel premium package + single drawer dish washer.
Comment by boogeyman — November 19, 2006 @ 11:43 am
How much is the legal fees and stamp duty for both SPA and loan agreement? if you buy from developer, you also need to paid loan spa and agreement right then the diff is only sale spa and the stamp duty only paid in advance if you plan to invest for long term.
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — November 19, 2006 @ 11:48 am
hi boogeyman, just visted the kiaraville website. i have checked the layout of Type G did you know that the back door exit is inside one of the bedroom
Comment by X-man — November 19, 2006 @ 12:30 pm
Mine is facing Solaris. Is the kitchen package offered to Type D as well? You must be a very experienced property investor.
Comment by KV Fan — November 19, 2006 @ 3:56 pm
Hi All,
I am looking to buy a new unit in MK area, looked at ayuria , meridin and the new casa kiara 2 (next to verve). Looking at the larger units 1574sqft priced at 380/sqft. What do you guys think of casa kiara 2 by dijaya?
Thanks
Comment by energy — November 19, 2006 @ 4:53 pm
Hi Kiaraville owner, if you buy from developer now all you need to pay is only RM380 for the proceedure fee, SPA’s legal fees and stamp duty is inclusive in the purchase price whereas loan agreement’s legal fees and stamp suty is either by the purchaser or the bank depend on what loan package you taking. Anyone purchase your unit the buyer have to pay 30k++ for the legal fees and stamp duty for the SPA.
Hi X-Man, that one is in the guest room which exit to the corridor/private lift lobby, not a very good idea but I can take it since there are no more better deal in the market.
Hi KV Fan, the kitchen package is being offered to ALL kiaraville purchaser, you can call them for more information.
Hi Energy, Meridin is no longer available, it is located next to the highway not a good development although carrying sunrise brand. Casa Kiara 2, you might want to see Casa Kiara 1’s quality of finishes and the current demand for casa kiara 1 then you might skip it, but the location of casa kiara 2 is good, much better than anything in Jalan Kiara 3.
Ayuria is the best bet for all the developemtn you’ve mentioned. entry price is much lower, go and have a look now you might be impressed. They are now giving 5 or 6% discount with equiped bath room, cabinet, timber floor, porcelain tiles, air conds, green tinted wall height window…etc. Maybe you can get the salesperson from Asiaquest to bring you to their previous development (Kiaramas Cendana) then you would have some ideas what end product you will be getting.
Comment by boogeyman — November 19, 2006 @ 5:49 pm
Boogeyman, developer SPA didnt included any stamp duty for transfering title but if you buying resale unit you will paying the stamp duty for transfer the title and you dont need to paid any s/d after the title is issue.
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — November 19, 2006 @ 6:29 pm
Boogeyman, the door exit to outside corridor. why dont consider Tiffani?
Comment by X-man — November 19, 2006 @ 6:35 pm
Hi again Boogeymen. What’s ur confidence that MK will maintain its exclusivity in the next few years? Will KV4 be good also? I’m new in MK area that’s why the many basic questions. THQ
Comment by KV Fan — November 19, 2006 @ 6:49 pm
Hi Kiaraville owner, transfer title fee is called MOT, Memorandum of Transfer which is another cost apart from SPA’s lega fees and stamp duty. Anyone who puchase your unit need to pay 30k++ for the SPA’s legal fees and Stamp Duty, then the new owner need to pay another 20k++ when the title is issued which is expected 7 - 10 years upon completion.
Hi X-Man, Tiffany now only offer 4% discount and average price is 440psf, Kallista A is now 1.2m++, 2700sf, 399 units in 4 acre of land.
If you log on to www.kiaraville.com.my you’ll see more information on Project K4. This project will be launched early next year and price is expected to be 480/490psf and early bird discountis available too.
I am not very sure how good will MK perform in the long run but I have high hope on Solaris @ MK/Dutamas, if both commercial development take off then the entire MK will be benefited especially the already dead La Grande. Cold Storage will be there for 12 years at least follow by other branded retailers. The new bridge to Duta area will be open next year (before Kiaraville complete, expect heavy traffic from Dutamas to MK.
If everything goes smoothly, we’ll have a new Bangsar.
Comment by boogeyman — November 19, 2006 @ 7:20 pm
According 2 my experience if you purchase a property without issue of starta title then you dont need to paid any stamp duty when the title is issue only paid a small amount of fees to your lawyer.
Comment by Investor — November 19, 2006 @ 10:56 pm
Maybe I was wrong as I was advised by the developer’s lawyer. SPA’s Legal fee and stamp duty for subsale unit is very expensive, 20k++ for a RM630k worth of property, strata title is not issued yet. When title is issued, another 15k++ for MOT.
Comment by boogeyman — November 19, 2006 @ 11:38 pm
hi boogeyman, your lawyer parang you. the fees for 630k property is about 4,860.00++ and the stamp duty 12,900.00 and dont need to paid any $$ for MOT after title issue. check another lawyer.
Comment by Investor — November 20, 2006 @ 11:55 am
Yes Investor, you are right. RM18,003 is what we paid, MOT is RM10 only when title is issued which is expected few years from now.
Comment by boogeyman — November 20, 2006 @ 12:44 pm
maybe three year the ritle will be issue
Comment by Investor — November 20, 2006 @ 2:17 pm
Individual title will be faster but strata title takes long time especially for condo!!
Comment by boogeyman — November 20, 2006 @ 4:55 pm
MK Astana strata title issue last year 4 year after complete
Comment by Investor — November 20, 2006 @ 6:19 pm
That’s fast!! So bayu strata title is being issued soon then!!
What do you think of Kiaraville?
Comment by boogeyman — November 20, 2006 @ 6:27 pm
hi all I am looking for a unit in Kiaraville build up 2500 very keen. if u have unit to let go email me at stanllysim788@yahoo.com
Comment by buyer — December 9, 2006 @ 9:43 pm
and the Kiaraville guru can advice which type has the better position and facing, thanks
Comment by buyer — December 9, 2006 @ 9:47 pm
Kiaraville Owner has a Type C and asking 1.2m, you might consider.
There are few Type A available at developer price.
Comment by boogeyman — December 12, 2006 @ 4:03 pm
Type C would be the best since you are only looking at 2500sf. Expect loud highway noise. If budget allows, Type G is a good choice too, it faces west but price is very afforadable.
Comment by boogeyman — December 12, 2006 @ 4:07 pm
hi boogeyman thanks. My budget only 1m, I like type A & C. May take up the developer unit, if no option available. What do u think of low floor?
Comment by buyer — December 13, 2006 @ 12:02 am
The Type C u mention is on what floor, how many percent is different from purchase? Thankx
Comment by buyer — December 13, 2006 @ 12:06 am
I think the Type C he is selling is around 18% more than the developer price, early buyer got 10% discount then 8% then 6% then 4% then now only 2% rebate which would be withdrawn very soon so if you would like to get a unit there be quick and try to negotiate for 3% if you dont take the interest absorption package.
Type A low floor is from 960k before discount and it is actually not that low as the lobby is already 4 storey in height. Unit number 7 for type A is more preferable, unit number 1 is not good, go to see the scale model then you will know what I mean.
Hope to see you in Kiaraville next year November.
Comment by boogeyman — December 15, 2006 @ 12:53 am
Thanks bro boogey I know about that on top of that he only paid 20% so far no interest during construction, anyway I like the type A is not bad at all. will be booking today, will chat again neighbour. Thanks boo.
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 9:59 am
Type A is away from the highway so noise will not be a problem in future, it alco faces the future Project K4’s garden/pool.
Comment by boogeyman — December 16, 2006 @ 12:50 pm
yap boo, i actually like that type A because of open space, no building is clustering on me, I book the one that face the sales office. I still look for type C becasue of the family area that is missing from type A. The entrance is something to look at.
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 4:31 pm
I can pay more than 1m the question is does that justified for the current progress. paying 1.2 or 1.3 I can buy type G or Tiffany 2700 sq ft, for type G is the maintenance fees i have to pay for Tiffany is 30cent and 3 years, I need to move next year. My say thanks.
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 4:43 pm
I had the same thoughts before making my purchase at the end I got Type G. Love Type C but it was sold out long ago and with that asking price from other owners, I pay 40k more and get 915sf more.
Type C comes with a small study area, yard is smaller, master bed room is slightly shorter, developer price start from 1.1m before 10% early bird discount.
So did you take the kitchen package?
Comment by boogeyman — December 16, 2006 @ 5:59 pm
Buyer did you managed to get 3% discount? or just 2%?
Comment by boogeyman — December 16, 2006 @ 6:11 pm
I guess 3% only know on monday, but paid deposit
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 6:27 pm
I guess 3% only know on monday, but paid deposit
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 6:33 pm
I’m not comfortable with the manitanance fees of nearing 1K, I feel that money can put to better use somewhere. I plan to take up the hook an hop, oven the rest be buying what I like fridge can be very pretty if u fix it right, part of id I feel.
I should be taking up the K4 so I can have my choice of where to stay later. I just love this era of condo evolution, or I wont be spoiled for choice, and put our country in a better shape.
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 6:52 pm
I am sure you will have the request of 3% discount approved on monday.
I didnt take any kitchen package as I plan to wait and see what’s available a year later, the models of hood and hob you are paying now might cost only 1.5k a year later in homedec exhibition.
Project K4 would not be as value for money as Kiaraville.
The maintenance fees for your type A should be 601.25 monthly, type G is 852.50 monthly, not much of a difference but this is what you should pay for enhanced security/facilities.
Congratulate on your purchase!!!
Comment by boogeyman — December 16, 2006 @ 7:35 pm
Is not much different, but enough for me to pay TNB almost enough. Will wait for K4 later I can chose which to stay or sell. I like the type G ground floor with the garden.
Good point about the hood n hob, r they selling below market value? I have not enquire still early to decide.
thanks for advise neighbour.
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 8:00 pm
The layout of Tiffany Kallista 3700 sq ft is perfect, that will be what I’m more welling to pay if I up my stack. The layout is flawless 3 lanai, that’s my perfect home layout for the moment.
Comment by buyer — December 16, 2006 @ 9:14 pm
price from 1.6m for Kalista C, I love that layout too but way beyond my budget and maintenance fee would be 1.1k per month enough for a brand new vios.
You might want to consider Kiaraville Type H with that kind of pricetag.
Comment by boogeyman — December 17, 2006 @ 2:28 am
the hood and hob package is good for those opt for hassle free as developer installed them for you before vacant possession but you wont know what package/promotion will be available from dealers a year later and the models might be outdated months later I for one would not like to see the product I paid a year later so I decide to skip this package.
Comment by boogeyman — December 17, 2006 @ 3:55 am
Well I’m happy for my unit now, is not a perfect home but what a home should be, only without family and study area. Hope can find that in K4, ideal would be 2700-3000 sq ft. That will still come in comfort maintenanace fees base on rm0.25, is higher density and near highway junction developer need to throw in more gimmic to attract sells. I heard in K4 will be spending more on enviroment, n facilities , 2 full size olympic pool.
Comment by buyer — December 17, 2006 @ 9:20 am
Hood n hop I feel the design do not make much different for new model, unless new tech, beside that look all hood is only depend on the reliability of the fan, and ease of cleaning. Hob is just a burner, it all depend on how attractive is the package to me.
Comment by buyer — December 17, 2006 @ 9:28 am
Type G has a very grand entrance, with water feature? a little id work should make this house some piece of statement, maybe we can group for better bagian, just a thinker.
Comment by buyer — December 17, 2006 @ 9:34 am
K4’s maintenance fees would be 0.30 psf.
Type G entrace is very grand I agree and other part of the unit is away from NKVE highway so noise will be none or minimal.
When you plan to move in? Me first quarter of 2008.
Comment by boogeyman — December 17, 2006 @ 10:11 pm
moving in as early as posible, trying to enroll children to garden for next year intake, 1 major factor for me to move. June 07′ maybe ready, it will be better for me, intake on sept.
Comment by buyer — December 18, 2006 @ 9:44 am
You not local? mind telling where you from? International schools don’t take local students.
Comment by boogeyman — December 18, 2006 @ 2:25 pm
It is open to pulic now ministry announce early this year, but certain requirement which I can fullfill.
No 3% for me, only 2% but give me kitchen appliances. not feeling so bad, at least they compensate me about equalvilent gimmick.
Comment by buyer — December 18, 2006 @ 8:34 pm
still on waiting list, hopefully they can take both my child at d same time. And everythhing is new for me, new life, new enviro, new neighbour, new school, a new beginning.
Comment by mcf — December 18, 2006 @ 8:42 pm
what kinda kitchen appliances they give you? hope it is hood, hob, oven, waste disposer, double drawer dish washer, washer/dryer and fridge.
msf, which school your children going? garden?
Comment by boogeyman — December 18, 2006 @ 11:29 pm
hood hob, oven, and waste disposal, the premium package which is around rm8K. Applied Garden waiting list for next year sept intake, or the next availbale semister. But u need to meet certain ministry requirement, u should consult the school if u can meet that.
Comment by mcf — December 19, 2006 @ 9:42 am
Any ideas what’s the fees like per year? seems that every parents send their children to Garden instead of Alice or MKIS.
Comment by boogeyman — December 19, 2006 @ 10:46 am
around rm21k per year for kindergadern rm23k from year1, MKI is good but 30% more premium. There is still certain requirement u need to fullfill, u better check with the school. The fees will increase next year, rm10k non refundable for each child is also increasing.
Comment by mcf — December 19, 2006 @ 1:33 pm
Once again it proves that Mont Kiara is for the rich and upper class residents. Paying 23k per year for your child’s education is expensive. So you are ready to pay 46k a year just for your children’s education.
mcf, you bought a unit in Kiaraville? Which type? and price?
Comment by boogeyman — December 19, 2006 @ 4:25 pm
hi booge and buyer, wat discount you got? 2 or 3? maybe i interester to buy a remainder unit.
Comment by Purchaser — December 19, 2006 @ 6:50 pm
i have 3 child 1 will joint in 2 years, so i need to trim where i can, i have a heavy bag on my back.
Purchaser I only get 2%, they said can get 3% for more than 1 unit so if u keen let me talk to them we get combine discount.
Comment by mcf — December 19, 2006 @ 9:02 pm
I bought type A, boo.
Comment by mcf — December 19, 2006 @ 9:05 pm
Yes mcf your back is really heavy!! more than 60k just for the kids’ education.
Not many buy for rental/flipping I guess. The agent from Sunrise informed me that the Solaris will be ready few months from now and Cold Storage will be their anchor tenant follow by other reputed retailers like guardian.
So we can walk to Solaris to have a cup of Machiato Caramel
Comment by boogeyman — December 19, 2006 @ 10:36 pm
Binaderas the developer seems to be treating everyone the same unless you are bumiputra. 2% rebate is the max you can get.
Last I check, Kiaraville is 95% sold!!
Comment by boogeyman — December 19, 2006 @ 10:42 pm
solaris will hand over in march 07′, coldstorage end of the year. Public bank, ambank is confirmed 1 more to the list. starbuck, coffeebean, is there to serve u very soon enjoy the new life u going to get here bro.
Comment by mcf — December 19, 2006 @ 11:41 pm
I prefer international bank instead of local bank. If solaris becomes the new hot spot I wonder if it would affect the value of Kiaraville.
Heard that some pubs/cafes/discos from Hartamas will switch to Solaris…..noise and congestion outside Kiaraville…this is what worry me!!
Comment by boogeyman — December 20, 2006 @ 11:10 am
solaris is a sured hot spot, hartamas will face challange and revalue.
Comment by mcf — December 20, 2006 @ 4:36 pm
purchaser, r u keen on the unit, I talk to them, we can bargain. Please let me know as soon b4 they change thier mind. Thanks
Comment by mcf — December 20, 2006 @ 4:38 pm
msf, yours unit number 1 or 7?
I went to the site just now and they already started installing the windows and plastering.
good luck with your bulk purchase discount!!
by the way, I wonder why nobody is interested in Le grande, someone has been trying to offload his unit for 720k for a 2000sf unit…but…..nobody wants since 5 months ago!!
Comment by boogeyman — December 20, 2006 @ 5:55 pm
La grand I heard layout not appealing, I didn’t bother to look. I saw it during launching, boo tell u my unit later lah… personal infor talking too much of me already.
the success of solaris will only boost the value in that area, is the most friendly enviroment in MK when ready, my say. The day when all the ting tong are all over u c this location’s worth. K4 will be second last condo land in the cluster, there will be 1 last development after K4.
Comment by mcf — December 20, 2006 @ 8:05 pm
as far as I know there whould be no more development after project K4 in the cluster, the whole cluster should be consist of Kiaraville, K4, bungalows, villa aseana and tiffany….anymore?
I dont like the ting tong construction noise so I expect them to complete the earth work before I move in.
Comment by boogeyman — December 20, 2006 @ 8:32 pm
la grand has a piece of land after the bunglow lot, and planned for condo project.
Comment by mcf — December 20, 2006 @ 11:54 pm
If you prefer Garden school, why dont you chose Kiaramas Cendana is closer to the school and you can walk to the school mah!!!
Comment by seller — December 21, 2006 @ 10:27 am
Kiaramas does not have the community envir, and not what I like.
Comment by mcf — December 21, 2006 @ 10:45 am
concept is king in buyers market, u pay for how u 1 2 live.
Comment by mcf — December 21, 2006 @ 10:49 am
Kiaramas is about 600 meter away from garden internation school, only those who wish to sell Kiaramas Cendana will take it as an advantage. Kiaramas Cendana is good, but not as good as Kiaraville/Tiffany.
Comment by boogeyman — December 21, 2006 @ 11:01 am
And also, if one wish to buy a property because of Garden international school, then Kiara Design Suites, Casa Kiara 1, Lanai Kiara, Vista Kiara would be better choice and that’s what I called “within walking distance”. You need a car to go everywhere.
mcf, Is that called Villa Aseana Court? access from Duta Kiara or other part of MK? From the map I cant see if there is anymore access road lead to the land after K4 and the bungalows.
Comment by boogeyman — December 21, 2006 @ 11:05 am
transport for Garden is provided free for MK residence, the condo u mention r all on undesirable area to me. and those condo do not offer much, is only a quality condo that can not convienced or motivate me to stay.
Access at the end of K4 there is where the land is.
Comment by mcf — December 21, 2006 @ 12:00 pm
Purchaser u still around?
Comment by mcf — December 21, 2006 @ 12:01 pm
I was watching MK for few years b4 I know where is desirable to me.
Comment by mcf — December 21, 2006 @ 12:05 pm
So K4’s development will be affected by ting tong but who knows both launch at the same time and hope it would be another high end condo but if it is another la grande then it wont do any good…..project K4’s price from around 500psf was informed by the agent of kiaraville but it comes with equipped kitchen and quality better than Kiaraville.
Since transport is provided for pupils of garden international school then it doesn’t matter how far it’s from Cendana, the condo I listed out was of lower end and of course undesirable if compare to Kiaraville/Cendana/Tiffany/Ayuria. I’ve personally viewed Cendana the 1839sf unit, everything is very classy and well done but the unit is just too bare to my liking…only kitchen cabinet is given for free unlike Kiaraville which you have most of the furnitures included, the security is shitty I heard but agents said they will improve
mcf, why not you group with “buyer” then both you and him would enjoy the extra 1% rebate which can be used for the kitchen premium package?
Comment by boogeyman — December 21, 2006 @ 12:21 pm
I found this website very interesting about Kiaraville so those of you who interested in getting one may log on and read the comments made by other owners.
www.mypropertytalk.com
Admin please delete this if it offend the rules. Thanks!!
Comment by Kiaraville~Owner — December 21, 2006 @ 5:56 pm
which condo in MK is provide free transport to Garden School ?
I thing only free transport to One Utama for MK residence during week day.
Comment by seller — December 21, 2006 @ 6:10 pm
transport provided by school, boo. no one resond yet hopefully someone will come along.
Comment by mcf — December 21, 2006 @ 11:24 pm
like i said they r quality condo but nothing that capture the sparkling feel, they build quality condo no question.
Comment by mcf — December 21, 2006 @ 11:31 pm
the school provide bus for sure but is not FREE
Comment by seller — December 22, 2006 @ 5:25 pm
u sure seller? i was told transport provided,maybe u can tell me more.
Comment by mcf — December 22, 2006 @ 6:05 pm
Garden school never provide FREE school bus from day 1 coz my sons is study in garden school
Comment by seller — December 22, 2006 @ 7:06 pm
Type C is beside showroom and Type C1 is close to Type D
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — December 22, 2006 @ 7:08 pm
ok, they told me is provided, maybe i’m wrong. How do u find the school? Can give any commend?
Comment by mcf — December 22, 2006 @ 10:32 pm
Isn’t both c lanai facing block D?
Comment by mcf — December 22, 2006 @ 10:37 pm
Block A Type C both lanai facing Type G (East) and Type A facing WEST (very hot)
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — December 23, 2006 @ 9:32 am
If u buying Type C you must buy 10th floor above otherwise you will looking at type G root top. I think Type C low floor is the best can see all the pools.
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — December 23, 2006 @ 9:38 am
i like it above the block D, I like privacy. Thanks for the reply pal.
Comment by mcf — December 23, 2006 @ 1:34 pm
the price should be 1.3 to 1.4M
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — December 23, 2006 @ 5:57 pm
I think I’ll stick to what i have now, lets c how appealing is K4. Made up my mind, cheers all neighbours.
Comment by mcf — December 23, 2006 @ 7:37 pm
Type A’s master bed room and lanahi is facing south-east, bedroom 2, 3 and guest rooms’ bath/toilet is facing south-west.
Type C’s low floor has minimal view only, you cant see ALL the pool, look at the site plan and you know what I mean…maybe you get to see some trees and some water….maybe the residents opposite as it is directly facing type G. Higher floor might have highway noise problem.
From the available units now I think Type G is better in term of value for money, then Type A unit number 7. Type H is beyong most’s budget.
Comment by boogeyman — December 27, 2006 @ 1:08 am
yes price for type C should be 1.3m - 1.4m upon completion, but not now, not even 1.2m as there are still 30 units available.
mcf, there is still 3 type G units for sale, after discount should be around 1.29m.
Comment by boogeyman — December 27, 2006 @ 1:11 am
Let C which type A, C or G have more value after completed. From my view I dont think Type G is good: Facing highway, design weir(back door exit from the guest room instead of kitchen)
Comment by Purchaser — December 27, 2006 @ 9:01 am
Type G is facing the pool and landscape purchaser.
Comment by boogeyman — December 27, 2006 @ 9:08 am
Yes is facing WEST
Comment by Purchaser — December 27, 2006 @ 9:33 pm
So it is rather hot in noon time but who is living there? pay another 150 or 200 for heavier usage of electricity would do.
Comment by boogeyman — December 27, 2006 @ 11:28 pm
haha…… rich man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by purchaser — December 28, 2006 @ 11:08 am
you made your purchase? mcf is looking at grouping you to buy 2 units for better price. which type you intend to purchase?
Comment by Kiaraville~Owner — December 28, 2006 @ 11:37 am
Please e-mail me at stanllysim788@yahoo.com, for those kin to get addtional discount b4 they cut off my deal thanks.
Comment by mcf — December 29, 2006 @ 3:50 pm
As for this project all unit has been carefully designed, type G may not look like a good buy, is not that bad after u study the layout. As for my type A low floor I can still find something that I can call home.
Comment by mcf — December 29, 2006 @ 4:04 pm
As for my type A only the rooms n toilets r getting afternoon sun, which I like the toilet to get full sun ray more hygenic to me. For the rooms light getting to area that don affect yr activity, is good, I like the house to be bright. Living room is overlooking at the lancscape and open space, K4 will not be a big problem to my view the landscape is about 200ft apart. If u take a ruler to draw out the angle from the livingroom is fine.
Comment by mcf — December 29, 2006 @ 4:20 pm
An extra quarter million gets extra 1005sf of course I would go for type G although it is facing west, my wife love the huge kitchen and island concept although there will be no lanai for type G. Only master bed room and living gets the sun light.
Type A was my initial choice but since the loan will be repaid by a combine income so we decide to go for the bigger one.
msf, purchaser contact you already?
Comment by boogeyman — December 29, 2006 @ 7:03 pm
Is a good buy Boo, no question. I guess the purchaser maybe spy from developer, or rich man don need discount, no, no reply.
Will u be adding any id for yr unit? U have any ideal what’s project beside Regency 2 that face KV, still not time to find out.
Comment by mcf — December 29, 2006 @ 9:06 pm
Type C low floor, If u can stay with the fact that u can watch all the live episode of yr neighbour n also being watch, or shut off yr curtain for privacy. I’m not comfortable being watched so I only can accept higer unit.
I’m still happy being so close to landscape which is feeling refreshing, and calm. U know the graphic work of the infinity pool that’s what I’m hoping to find in my unit.
Comment by mcf — December 29, 2006 @ 9:34 pm
I’m not spy and decided to change my mind and book a unit at Tiffani Kiara.
Comment by Purchaser — December 30, 2006 @ 9:23 am
intend to spend 20% of the purchase price for ID, furnitures and electronic appliances and you?
looks like your hope of an additional 1% discount is gone as purchase has gone for the tiffany….they give 4% now anyway…around 440psf after discount…..100 units per acre.
Comment by boogeyman — December 30, 2006 @ 10:00 am
I got 10% discount haha…………….
Comment by purchaser — December 30, 2006 @ 11:24 pm
19th december you said you interested in buying a unit in kiaraville, 30th december you said you changed your mind and booked a unit in tiffany, today you said you got 10% discount. tiffany now only offer 4% discount but you made your purchase between 19th december - 30th december….unless you are real close to Ireka/Capitaland!!
sometime, one needs to study more before making up stories!!
mcf, never mind him!! too often we see idiots jumping around the streets!!
Comment by boogeyman — December 31, 2006 @ 4:28 am
dont act like big bossss!…………
Comment by purchaser — December 31, 2006 @ 9:03 am
Type G also low floor. The remaining unit are mostly on 4th floor.
Comment by purchaser — December 31, 2006 @ 9:12 am
Talking big only. I dont think ppl here can spend $$250K + for renovation
Comment by purchaser — December 31, 2006 @ 9:14 am
Why you call ppl IDIOT???????
Every one is free to talk and dont act like someone important.
Comment by Boss — January 1, 2007 @ 8:45 am
everybody is free to talk, but facts and figures not NONSENSE!
Comment by everybody — January 2, 2007 @ 10:30 am
Hey, Boo forget him lets talk our happy issue.
I gone in to my unit from my Lanai I can c KL tower, n edge of infinity pool, my master bedroom full KL view perfect. Road noise minimum.
For type C I can hear the noise like standing at the Duta bridge, slighyly better. View is no big deal type A still has all the winning factor for me. As I expected is close to blk G and all view r block by masterbedroom, only pool, n live episode, will not be my choice at all, unless high flr. N maybe if they have the trees planted not so noisy, not sure. I was standing at the C lanai, noise is not good no time to inspect yr unit noise level.
Workmanship is fairly good, I have snape shoot of the views but only from my unit battery run flat, too bad, I wanted to snap yr unit but I can’t.
Comment by mcf — January 2, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
There r minor changes to the layout, wallpaper, water features, nothing much left to be done. So I guess will not be too much to spend for me, I have mostly everything, unless I can sell it lock stock n barrel when I sell my unit. Will start selling my unit after new year( where I stay now). I hope to sell off all thing so I can change everything new, I have been moving every 2 years for the past 6 years. This KV will be where I don wish to move anymore, it fit all my requirement.
Comment by mcf — January 2, 2007 @ 10:18 pm
I went to the site yesterday and they work on holiday too. Type A lanai can’t see KLCC and not much of KL view, but I think master bedroom will have better KL view.
To make your unit become a showroom-like quality I guess you need at least 120k include all moving furnitures and electronic appliances, if no decoration/renovation is needed then I think 80k would do just fine.
mcf, many RE agents in forums to condemn other developments. Sometime they tell you false facts to make you unhappy. Ireka/Binaderas is very stingy so it is “mission impossible III” if that kiddo got 10% discount in december 2006. A group buy of 6 units can get no more than 5%.
Comment by boogeyman — January 3, 2007 @ 1:52 am
Boogeyman you are too much in this forum STOP calling ppl IDIOT and KIDDO. What is the concern of you ppl can or cant get better discount?
Comment by Boss — January 3, 2007 @ 7:58 am
Boss please don take this issue any futher, u r no different in making more issue. No one is the boss here. Is a free speech world.
Comment by mcf — January 3, 2007 @ 9:35 am
Change topic, if u don like it don say it then no one will talk.
Comment by mcf — January 3, 2007 @ 9:37 am
I think I like to live peacefully with my new enviro, n staying with peacefull neighbourhood. Don let this bad air spoil what we r expecting from staying in KV, I have told myself I think I won’t face the problem of staying with gangster, or bully.
Give peace a chance.
Comment by mcf — January 3, 2007 @ 9:47 am
Agree we should not take this matter further. Mcf, we will forgive the kiddo for being so naive and childish, wont we?
Comment by boogeyman — January 3, 2007 @ 11:04 am
mcf, I might snap up the remaining unit in Kiaraville, developer willing to give 99% discount!!
Comment by boogeyman — January 3, 2007 @ 12:13 pm
IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Boss — January 3, 2007 @ 1:51 pm
You find that idiotic too? so stop all the lies kiddo!!
Comment by boogeyman — January 3, 2007 @ 3:44 pm
obviously purchaser boss boogeyman lah are the same kiddo.
mind your language kiddo, many expats and foreigners in this forums, do not spoil the image of malaysia. You’ve just made a dent on our Tourism Year 2007. If you do that again I will ask your teacher/parents to punish you. Go to sleep now!!
looks like our malaysia education is not up to expectation, kids like you using abusive language, tell lies etc…..now this worry me!! kiddo like you should be our future hope, I hope you wont let us down, will you? study harder work smarter, one day you might become a reputed developer thus you could get yourself 100% discount on the property you develop, instead of 10%!!
Comment by boogeyman — January 3, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
Hi…any ideas as to what the resale price of the K 1 units might be at present time. I was thinking of maybe offloading a 1600sqft 15th floor above type B unit. If the price is right?
Comment by swade — January 4, 2007 @ 4:43 pm
There r ppl asking for 1.2m for type C low flr, not choice unit for me. Today recieved news of owner letting go at 3%-5% on to of purchases price, which is a real good take up. Is better than the 1.2m unit which do not offer much to bargain due to low flr, again is personal prefference.
Pricing depend on timing, n choice of unit. I feel 10% is fair u still make from the discount, my say. If u have really choice unit u can demand more.
Comment by mcf — January 4, 2007 @ 5:40 pm
Dont parang swade, I think your offer 10% extra from the s&p is not fair. Is way of too low just enough to cover the interest and lawyer fees only.
Comment by K1 Owner — January 4, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
Hi mcf are you boogeyman?
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — January 4, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
First i don talk to myself,
2 the offer I mention is a solid fact u bring me chq i get u the unit,
3 this is the place i discuss issue, not looking for trouble,
4 I’m starting to feel uneasy here, I just 1 to share info here not getting to show off Abdullah or Hishamadin’s Malay supremacy.
Comment by mcf — January 4, 2007 @ 7:30 pm
First i don talk to myself,
2 the offer I mention is a solid fact u bring me chq i get u the unit,
3 this is the place i discuss issue, not looking for trouble,
4 I’m starting to feel uneasy here, I just 1 to share info here not getting to show off Abdullah or Hishamadin’s Malay supremacy.
Comment by mcf — January 4, 2007 @ 7:31 pm
I do not offer to buy from swade, i have my unit. Is just what I think, u 1 2 sell high price u sell after completion. U looking for quick gain u compromise.
My opinion,
KV can be a heaven to us n ppl wanting to live there, if the price is way over the current value, I will rather choose a new project or the next best thing. KV is not the only project at this area, KV can b the best of what u think now. Every new project is looking to break that bench mark to sell at a better price, buyers do have brain n choice.
Comment by mcf — January 4, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
I think there r so many disguise here, who is who i’m not intersted. I 1 info n discussion, if u ppl like to gossip go gossip blog. I started this chat with Boo n from where or how we got in to this I don know, i think it all started from TKock ppl showing too much unrelated opinion, which become so unpleasant.
N when i air my opinion, ppl try to start the fire n tell parang.
I belive he can reason me wrong, instead of making me looking like a trouble maker.
Comment by mcf — January 4, 2007 @ 8:05 pm
mcf, who offer you type C 3-5% above purchase price? which floor? and unit number?
kiaraville owner, mcf is mcf, me is me, I passed the info of the owner who wanting to let go his type C at 1.2mil as I thought he would be interested to buy.
Type B 15th floor purchase price was around 650k…for invester i suggest to sell upon completion, no point selling now as developer still has 30 units available.
Comment by boogeyman — January 5, 2007 @ 12:51 am
they r already ppl viewing the unit, is above 20th flr, type A. After inspecting my unit I like where I bought, will not be changing.
If someone interested to take up should mail me personally, Boo we should stay out of trouble for making unneccesary move.
We should protect the interest of KV. Let them mail me.
Comment by mcf — January 5, 2007 @ 9:25 am
maybe you can email the info to knm1129@yahoo.com.my. Many thanks!!
Comment by boogeyman — January 5, 2007 @ 10:23 am
Thanks for your inputs…I shall wait for completion. Its ironic another unit bought at the same time in Singapore under construction has gone up 80% and i thought this one will do well. Anyways…all z best to all proud kiaraville owners.
Comment by swade — January 7, 2007 @ 1:40 pm
80% appreciation before completion?
Comment by boogeyman — January 7, 2007 @ 6:05 pm
it is impossible! 80%! You must be kidding!
Comment by everybody — January 8, 2007 @ 7:13 am
The Sail was launched by city development at 900$psf now they are transacting in the re sale market at 1600$ odd depending on floor and facing…So i am not kidding.
Comment by swade — January 8, 2007 @ 9:25 am
The Sail? Are you talking about another development? That development is definately not in M’sia; right?
Comment by everybody — January 8, 2007 @ 10:23 am
80% appreciation!! Kiaraville atmost will appreciate “only” 50% the maximum.
Comment by boogeyman — January 8, 2007 @ 12:16 pm
The Sail in Singapore
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — January 8, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
Yes, heard about that, most project near casino is flying high. N it all happen in a year, if not mistaken.
Comment by mcf — January 8, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
it happen in just a period of a year, if I’m not mistaken.
Comment by mcf — January 8, 2007 @ 7:44 pm
Vivo city is drawing a lot of city shoppers from Orchard rd, wonder what is the attraction.
Comment by mcf — January 8, 2007 @ 7:49 pm
That won’t happen in M’sia anyway! Different category mah! The way we progress; no eye see!
Comment by everybody — January 8, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
soon we can see new showflat of Type H
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — January 10, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
OH when will that be? Do u think they can handover by August?
Comment by mcf — January 11, 2007 @ 6:06 pm
Received progress invoice of 2D and 2E today
Comment by Kiaraville Owner — January 11, 2007 @ 10:36 pm
I hope they hand over after chinese new year 2008 as I dont think I’ll have time to renovate the unit before chinese new yeqr and dont wanna pay maintenance fee for nothing. hope they take their time to do the job nicely…but I see they also work at night…..the later vacant possession the better for me!!
Comment by boogeyman — January 17, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
What do u guys think of basketball court or 1/2 court? It’s a sport that require teams to play, which will boost community living, and good sport for children.
I’m thinking just thinking if u guys like to share ideal on this topic. Maybe we can make a request to the managment, there maybe area suitable to accomadate.
Please share…
Comment by mcf — January 19, 2007 @ 7:58 pm
dont think they will change anything on the site plan at this stage.
Comment by boogeyman — January 20, 2007 @ 11:59 am
There are loose area where they maybe able to utilize, without altering any structure. I am planning to write a request letter, if more appeal may leave some hope. Just a try, who knows. But what do u guys feel about the ideal?
Comment by mcf — January 20, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
The idea is good but developer wont entertain, why spend more when the money is already inside their pockets?
Comment by boogeyman — January 22, 2007 @ 11:10 am
hey…i am interested in type G as well. ANd I viewed the show unit 2 days ago. My dad is deciding to buy or not.They offer 2 % discount. Do you all think it is a good deal?
Comment by Yeoh — January 24, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
Be fast, they are going to remove the discount soon.
Comment by Kiaraville owner — January 25, 2007 @ 11:04 am
I heard they are gonna withdraw the 2% rebate a month ago but no action till date, maybe this is the tactic they use to close the sales!! they still have 29 units available!
The only type G that is nice would be D02-5 but not sure if it is sold!!
Good luck!!
Comment by boogeyman — January 25, 2007 @ 11:19 am
but i think we r interested in the 3A level which is 4th floor lar….i think its D02-3A if not mistaken. Any comment?
Comment by Yeoh — January 25, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
D-2-5 is sold.
Comment by Bill — January 25, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
wondering what are they going to do with the remaining units upon completion. sell at developer price still? or sell with discounted price? sunrise never do that to hurt their customers!! hope binaderas is reading this.
Comment by boogeyman — February 5, 2007 @ 11:46 pm
Any ideas what sort of rental can a 1600sqft high flr f/furn apt get in Kiaraville once its ready next year. Was just wondering.
Thanks in advance.
Comment by swade — February 8, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
Did anyone get a feng shui check b4?
Comment by mcf — February 8, 2007 @ 11:02 pm
swade, rental for type B should be in the range of 5500 p/f - 7000/8000 f/f.
msf, never had a feng shui check…..you received invoice?
Comment by boogeyman — February 9, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
i wanna see more design of kiara hills bungalow..every bungalow at kiara hills hartamas..thank you…
Comment by puteri_qirra — February 10, 2007 @ 1:07 am
yes got my invoice today.
Comment by mcf — February 10, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
has any of kiaraville buyers ask the developer what they will do to the road surrounding kiaraville? i see sunrise has done a very good job in beautifying the environment….will binaderas do the same?
Comment by boogeyman — February 15, 2007 @ 12:32 am
i dont think so, kiaraville’s end product is already a question. so far only sunrise willing to spend to beautify the environment.
Comment by isabella — February 15, 2007 @ 12:33 pm
Capital Land will not let their 1st foray in Malaysia scene, how good they will be not sure. Business here is long term, Malaysia is one of their growth zone.
Comment by mcf — February 26, 2007 @ 11:06 pm
I hope the developer can do more to ensure the dignity of our money, since the developer is so active in blog site.
Comment by mcf — February 26, 2007 @ 11:13 pm
N I hope what I believe in is right, unless they really plan to hit n run.
Comment by mcf — February 26, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
hope they can match or outperform sunrise if not then their project K4 will suffer, K4 suffer means kiaraville might suffer too……
Comment by boogeyman — February 27, 2007 @ 11:56 pm
Do u know that MK10 is only charging RM0.22/per sq ft, they certainly know how to respond to market competition. Reason being more number of units, they are able to pass back the benefit to the investors, and owners. I have a different view about them now.
Comment by mcf — March 5, 2007 @ 2:11 am
MK11 has got a interesting building design, maintainance should be MK10 level.
Comment by mcf — March 5, 2007 @ 6:05 pm
I was proud to own a unit at Kiaraville…. initially. My confidence (about developer credibility) drops by the day. I believe I didn’t pay must attention to the word “collaboration” in which the developer established their relationship with Capitaland………
The issue is that as of today I only paid the 3rd progress payment. This means they can not complete the project by December 2007, which is spelled out in the S&P.
Looking at their (same group of people but with different company names) previous projects in the same vicinity, encountered the same problem. Payment from the developer is always difficult and generally felt by customers, suppliers or contractors and etc…. I am also afraid that the quality (workmanship/materials) may be affected. If this happens, we will face helluva problems with the developer (imagine 404 units) and obviously it will create further delay. I can’t imagine the process we have to go through especially dealing with the lower level personnel.
On the other hand, what is the company long term strategy? After Kiaraville 2 what next…………Will the strata title be delivered? Is the project too big for them? What is Capitaland has to say……
I have to spend time to protect the project, since I am in it, on remarks and unnecessary pressure from my golf kaki. I believe I made a mistake.
Comment by Roger — March 6, 2007 @ 11:09 am
I went to the actual unit and blk A to inspect, quality wise seems ok so far. delivery time frame looks very tight for them, how well they can deliver thier promise not sure. I feel that if MK10 can give RM0.22 with 300 units why can’t Kiaraville reimburse back to the owner. I am beginning to wonder did I make a wise choice.
Comment by mcf — March 6, 2007 @ 7:43 pm
Instead of waiting for K4 launching, I no longer feel excited. But waiting for MK11 now, Sunrise seems to really look after their investors.
Comment by mcf — March 6, 2007 @ 7:49 pm
The only thing I don’t like about KV is the lift passage to the units, it really feel like low cost apartment environment, hope they can look into it.
Comment by mcf — March 6, 2007 @ 7:52 pm
Ireka sold off Westing to finance their projects, was the talk of the industry.
Comment by mcf — March 6, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
I don’t think it is fair to judge your decision at the moment although I doubt the delivery time as well as the quality of finishes, too!!
0.25 + sinking funds is actually expensive.
Yes, Sunrise do look after their customers. I hope Ireka/Binaderas/Capitaland can match the performance and customers satisfaction.
Although this forum is linked to www.kiaraville.com.my but I doubt they will take your comments seriously.
All we need to do is just hope they deliver what they’ve promised!!
Comment by boogeyman — March 10, 2007 @ 1:47 am
any ideas whats happening with the project progress…I had mailed them a few days ago, but no reply. Any idea when the next installment is due or what percentage has to be paid still?
Comment by swade — March 11, 2007 @ 9:14 am
which block are you? different block have different progress.
Comment by Kiaraville owner — March 11, 2007 @ 1:58 pm
Only paid 30% so far and we have 70% of payment to go. The developer has used up 70% or 26 months from the total 36 months (S&P for completion and delivery). This means they have only 10 months to meet the delivery date.
I am also expecting and hope that the delivery is done in a professional fashion. That they will meet the expected quality level and all facilities are also completed the same time during the hand over. That the management will come down to see purchasers to help solve problems if they arise.
Here are other important topics for discussion.
- Buying Condominium is not just about the unit we own, it is much more.
- Are Malaysia laws take care of all that and making Condo living equals to landed house type?
- Is our Condo managed by real professional manager managing our asset prior to obtaining the strata title?
The way I see it, living in Condo is like paying for nothing or like paying for somebody to torture you.
If I want to live in a Condo……..the developer is the key to my decision. That is for my own stay.
If you do it for investment then it is alright. Like they said, there are always suckers out there.
Comment by Roger — March 11, 2007 @ 2:08 pm
I think the better bet would be buying Sunrise’s products although it is pricier than the rest but it gives you peace of mind in terms of maintenance and management, as well as security. Sunrise also protect your property value, they just provide everything you need basically, they organise events, sports competition, newsletter, etc etc….
We should give Binaderas/Ireka a chance if Kiaraville turn out not as good or the management is not as good as Sunrise’s one then we know what to do next, forget the rest of Ireka’s projects.
I buy Kiaraville because it is cheaper, if budget allows I would have bought 10@Mont Kiara.
I really wonder what Binaderas/Ireka/Capitaland have to say about all these!!!
Comment by boogeyman — March 12, 2007 @ 12:55 am
Hi, my future neighbours, been long time never browse this popular website… hmmm.. Roger, you seem to be very worry on the developer performance … I have a friend work as sub-con to ireka, they told me the work has been quite advanced, was told the kitchen cabinet & wardrobe has been installed for many floors and structure work already top most floor. I think when u look from out site, the green & dirty netting make the building looks incomplete. Hey, did you guys know that they have tested some color on block A facing kiaraville 2. not too bad right!!! At least not like L.Grande.. horrible… hahaha
To me whether they can deliver on time it doesn’t matter to me, as I still have a year + before expiry of 3 years signing S&P, the most important to me is the quality of work must be good as mentioned by mcf… I personally feel that investing in kiaraville will gain good returns as they are selling bit below market price (my fabulous discount). opps.. secret…
Benyoon
Comment by Benyoon — March 12, 2007 @ 7:52 am
I am still puzzled…if they have finished so much work why are they not asking for further payments. Its been a while we recd any newsletters on project progress aswell.
Comment by swade — March 12, 2007 @ 9:53 am
I have been billed 35% but a friend got a unit in block A low floor has been billed 70%. They bill you based on the progress of your unit instead of the entire development, which is good actually……because they have done minimal works to block D.
Comment by boogeyman — March 12, 2007 @ 10:43 am
Thanks. It’s quite a relief to hear that they have progressed well. I hope Kiaraville will complete to be a good looking and outstanding Condo in Mont Kiara. I will be proud of it.
It is quite confusing to note that they have reached to such an advanced stage of the development but they have not asked for progress payment to support their work. This means they are cash rich developer. This is a plus point which is good for the purchasers and no others could match in Mont Kiara. I also thought that the cabinets should only be installed upon physical completion of the building proper. I hope they should also take care of the quality especially not to scratch the cabinets. By the way, it will be difficult to hand over some completed units and some still in progress in the same block or the whole development. It must be very messy to imagine. I have not experienced such a condition in Mont Kiara condominium projects so far.
I am glad we all got good discounts during the launch plus nice show room too. I hope the developer will do everything necessary to up hold the name and quality so that we could be proud of the development. There is no such thing as “below market value”. It was said that what you pay is what you get……………….. My only hope is for the developer to do a good job.
Comment by Roger — March 12, 2007 @ 11:21 am
I just called Binaderas and confirm that there is no more discount or rebate and actually selling price has been increased by around 10% or so.
Kitchen package no longer available because they have already started to put the kitchen cabinet on each unit.
Expected completion date is still mid december 2007 but S&P date is Feb 2008.
I am not sure if they are cash rish but I am sure most of the owners have opt for the interest free package so it is UOB and Capitaland finance the project.
Afterall, I personally still think Sunrise’s will be the best in Mont Kiara, look at their track record, no one can outperform them when comes to security, management, maintenance, etc.
I hope Ireka/Binaderas will give all of us the owner a good product with great quality of finishes. I also hope they will beautify the surrounding like Sunrise did.
Comment by boogeyman — March 12, 2007 @ 11:51 am
Well all that I had said was meant for the developer to hear what we purchasers feel and want from them. For design and quality wise I trust Capitalland, the only thing I don’t like is the walkway to the units which I visited Nov 06′, it feel kind of like apartment, it maybe too early for me to criticise but the stage that I was looking is like at least 85% done some units were completed with cabinets. As I check back on Feb 07′ my unit interior has been completed, they have been working on inside out, interior will be done by the time the exterior is completed.
As what I don’t like is why are we paying higher maintainance than MK10, while MK10 is 100 unit lesser than KV, and 7 acres land.
Management control by capitalland I will not be so worry, not with Ireka, not sure of their business style yet. Capitalland got to sell this project to established thier brand name here, they are the largest asian property company here.
Comment by mcf — March 12, 2007 @ 10:58 pm
For progressive payment I am always happy to save my interest, late progressive means u pay less interest, in the end u still need to pay depend on how u plan yr fund management.
Comment by mcf — March 12, 2007 @ 11:07 pm
I may seems to talk to the screen, but if the developer is conscious about their reputation, they will not turn a deaf ear on these. Sunrise respond to the market sentiment and take all the purchasers’ need to all their next project. So when ever they launched a project most people buy, because it is what the buyer want.
If what we have asked is reasonable a good developer will not take it for granted.
Comment by mcf — March 12, 2007 @ 11:22 pm
hey mcf, the walk way to the unit you mentioned, is cheap looking and feel is that what you mean?
can you describe it more detail? the project manager once assure me that the whole place will look grand, you will even have newspaper and magazine rack on the lift lobby….but i am not sure his definition of “grand” compare to mine…..
you have visited you actual unit and everything has almost done…how is the quality? care to elaborate more?
I was eagerly anticipating their project K4 but looks like I will give it a miss for good. It will be priced around 500psf.
thanks!!!
Comment by boogeyman — March 12, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
The lobby I believe no problem, is the walkway from the lift to the units which I don’t feel is up to the image. The tile had been laid, pretty much of everything, except the painting maybe. And what I c does not please me.
Workmanship is fine or I’ll be posting my grievance. Boo don’t worry too much about that, I will not commit their next project until I get my key, and see how they respond to the voice of the purchases. They have already brought in the model house in the showroom office don’t know if they display it, I saw it when they unload the model house.
Capitalland is selling u what u feel value for money, after sells performance got to wait and c lah. I feel that value has drop by higher maintenance, comparing with a higher end condo with much lower density.
Do u think Ireka has the credentials to match Sunrise, the developer is Ireka not Capitalland. Capitalland is playing more on the project development, don’t know about management.
Anyway I’m not trying to frighten u, my friend, I just wish it doesn’t that way, so I state my view b4 it can happen.
Comment by mcf — March 13, 2007 @ 7:51 am
I don’t know Ireka’s track record. Binaderas is a newly registered company, owned and operating by Ireka’s MD.
I still not quite sure what you mean cheap look and feel from lift to your unit but I will appoint someone to inspect the whole unit on behalf of me and ask the developer to rectify whatever defects/problems. No joke, I have paid 1.3m and I expect top class quality.
If Kiaraville turn out to be like those kiaramas/casa kiara etc I will even lodge a complaint to the consumer tribunal.
Comment by boogeyman — March 13, 2007 @ 10:52 am
Is no defect just the feel, hope they can do more. It walk like apartment feel, or maybe that feel comes from seeing other showrooms.
Comment by mcf — March 13, 2007 @ 5:37 pm
have you been to aman/damai? how is kiaraville’s compare to aman/damai? or cendana?
developer once again assure me that completion date will be in dec 2007.
Comment by boogeyman — March 15, 2007 @ 10:57 am
I am glad that you guys have visited the place during construction, though it is difficult to enter the premises at this time.
I know that buying Condo is not about buying the specified unit alone. It is about the whole development. Consider the design (including the facilities), layout, materials and the landscape to go along with the development. It is a norm to provide a central water filtration system too. Will the rain wet the main door of the unit? If the walk way is the same as Casa Kiara/ Kiaramas standard then I believe Kiaraville price is definitely not cheap or reasonable for that matter. I was influenced by Capitaland’s “participation” in the project initially but this may not be true now. They only provide financial arrangement for a project which they think it is worthwhile to do business. So in what way is Capitaland involved. Anyway, if they are involved physically in the project I am most happy.
In the new rulings that should come into effect mid year that requires developer to organize owners corporation to jointly manage and run the development prior to the issue of the strata title. If this happens we could ask to redo the maintenance charge. I believe the cost of maintenance is not that high since it has 404 units. Imagine the amount the developer will collect for the next few years until the strata title is issued.
Kiaraville is marketed by an appointed agent. This also leads me to ask whether Benaderas will remain a developer after the Kiaraville 2? I have not seen their corporate long term strategy.
Their other developments by the same people in Mont Kiara have history of delaying delivery.
These days in the business world quality is given (you must meet the quality level to be in the league) one must meet the delivery date with short lead time. In the housing industry who cares. So it is important the customers grade the developers. There are tons of information in the market about products/manufacturers positioning on quality and price attributes. Like grading of hi fi amps/speakers, automobiles, cellphone etc……. We read about awards given to the developers of the same but DON’T FORGET THEY WERE GIVEN BY THEIR PEERS, people in the same industry. Customers’ feedbacks are considered bad for business. Corporation cannot handle feedbacks from customers for improvements.
Well, still we have plenty more to say. But I truly hope that Benaderas will stand up and build Kiaraville that exceed our expectations. Be the developer that will pose serious challenge to Sunrise domination. Recruit and train more hands to push the development to meet the targeted completion date or ahead of schedule (exceed our expectation). This is not rocket science, it’s the attitude. A satisfied customer is automatically a good advertiser. So provide us with bullets so that we could be your advertiser free of charge.
I hope it will NOT turn out to be like Casa Kiara/Kiaramas????????……………………….
Comment by Roger — March 15, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
I believe it is more like their I zen II but nothing near Kiaramas Cendana’s exterior quality. They are not gonna take your comments seriously and they will never change their plan because it is too costly to do so. They are not gonna modify or beautify the cheap look and feel walkway or other part in the condo.
Ireka/Binaderas’s strategy is = make money first, solve problem later whereas sunrise’s strategy is long term, continuously.
If you go to pay Kiaramas Cendana a visit, then you know what is good quality (exterior part I mean), from landscape to the lobby, very nice and grand.
Binaderas/Ireka is not a threat to Sunrise. I already expect the worse.
Comment by boogeyman — March 15, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
The construction is slowing since Jan most workers transfer to build Tiffany, they concentrate on the internal work now. They have been building the pool deck since I last visit since last year, don know what they plan. They could be able to meet August deadline, with the current stage they don’t seems to be rushing for the target deadline. I hope and pray that I put my trust in CapitalLand will not go down with bad memory. If Capitalland commitment is limited don see how well can Tiffany and Pantai hold its ground.
Comment by mcf — March 21, 2007 @ 8:22 am
I don know if I got it wrong, I realize that CapitalLand projects are carry out b4 their 1st project is completed, are they rushing to make u buy b4 u can judge them.
There’s no project record I can track really. Their local partner UMLand is not someone I will respect, and ban myself from buying UMLand project. Is just a little mishap that happen to my car and the manager is asking me absorb the losses incurred to me, or nothing can be done. I was having a big commotion with the stuff. They don give a dam about u .
Again I don want to create fear here just what I fear may happen, just hope they can take care of us who make million in a hard way not like them.
Comment by mcf — March 21, 2007 @ 8:51 am
Yesterday I drove to the development site to see the whole project. In my opinion, the developer can not complete Kiaraville in November or in December 2007 as they have promised. This includes the facilities as well. Early purchasers signed S&P in Nov/Dec time frame.
This means the purchasers will claim late delivery for both individual unit as well as the facilities too. I also believe that in an effort to rush for delivery the quality of workmanship will suffer. My anticipation of actual delivery will be in another 6 months time from December………….What a shit!
My hope for them to strongly compete with Sunrise is now gone to the drain. I bought the unit even the project faces the highway. In normal circumstances I will not. Is there still hope……for Kiaraville. I call up the office and this little girl said that they could complete in time.
So if you have bought the unit early, we are in the same boat. We need to keep in touch for making the claims and solving quality issues.
Comment by Roger — March 21, 2007 @ 9:39 am
They can complete if they 1, seeing the construction slowing down makes me worry. Is this the repeating sample of I-Zen, I have no confident with them.
Comment by mcf — March 21, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
I just wonder can we do to get them take our opinion, are we open to discussion?
Comment by mcf — March 21, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
why dont we start a yahoo group for kiaraville owners only. Then we can have a meeting amongst ourselves and then request the management in the company to schedule a meeting with us.
Comment by swade — March 21, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
Let’s do that, count me in.
Comment by mcf — March 22, 2007 @ 8:19 am
Good idea. What is a Yahoo Group?
Should we go and meet up with the developer now or wait till the hand over. If we arrange for a meeting with them now, I am afraid they will simply say that they will meet the delivery date.
Suggestion? Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
Anyway, we could meet up and exchange views.
Comment by Roger — March 22, 2007 @ 11:20 am
I doubt they will take your suggestions seriously!! Binaderas has not been responsive enough when comes to customer feedback/complaints etc.
The forum is linked to their website and I guess they should be monitoring this site too, maybe they heard what you voiced but they just dont five a Fxxx.
I have never received any news from the developer/salesperson for update on Kiaraville whereas I received news from BKP every month.
Comment by boogeyman — March 22, 2007 @ 2:15 pm
Lets find out from any lawyer that we know of, get their opinion and we meet up to discuss. ??
Comment by mcf — March 22, 2007 @ 5:37 pm
Roger,
I mean no disrespect but do you have professional knowledge and experience, enabling you to judge the current status of the project? I found your note most worrying.
mcf et al,
Whereas I applaud your commitment to the project and your willingness to put together a purchaser pressure group, what exactly do you expect to achieve at this stage? The delivery is not (yet) late, the work is not completed or handed over so how would you lodge quality complaints?
Someone else (sorry, I can’t recall whom) also voiced, and passionately too!, their frustration with Ireka/Binaderas poor customer service. Do you care to elaborate? Genuine question, I’m keen to understand the problems you’ve had so I can at least aim to take steps on my own behalf to maybe mitigate some of those concerns if/when they apply to my own unit.
Comment by Scott — March 22, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
Thank you Scott, I have your reply. I just hope you ppl are listening.
Comment by mcf — March 22, 2007 @ 9:17 pm
And we hope to be updated with news letter or caring service purchaser dinner gathering. Interacting to investor, so we can make this place a better place.
This is what I was treated by BKP, Sunrise, and I grade Ireka as their standard. I really hope you can stand up to their level of commitment, so my money can be in saved hand.
Forgive me if I have done wrong.
Comment by mcf — March 22, 2007 @ 9:30 pm
mcf,
I’m not sure if maybe you misunderstood my earlier note. I did not mean to come across as unappreciative or belittle your’s and other concerns.
I’ve read this forum for a long time and it’s very gratifying having regular posters such as yourself, keeping the rest of us up to date. Certainly I can not possibly see you have done anything wrong.
Comment by Scott — March 22, 2007 @ 9:45 pm
Home owners are of course passionately concern on their properties, we are paying top dollars so we expect top quality of product as well as top quality of service.
Roger and Mcf were just voice out their worries as Kiaraville doesn’t look like it is going to be completed on time, and Mcf has walked into his/her unit and quality was not as good as expected.
Binaderas’s service quality was never near the word satisfactory, we have received no updates, no response. I don’t like their style.
I hope Binaderas is reading this and put pressure on the project manager in order to deliver us the home owners a good quality condo with good quality of finishes, good security and good maintenance. They marketed Kiaraville as high end and luxury condo so we expect everything is high end and luxury. Who wants to pay a mil for a Casa Kiara, Kiaramas, La Grande standard?
Comment by boogeyman — March 22, 2007 @ 11:07 pm
If you are a purchaser you should be worried too. It doesn’t require a professional to do this evaluation on current stage of development. Your progress payment status will raise a red flag already. Have you also checked their (same people) other projects in the same vicinity. Don’t just rely on this forum for feedback go and see for yourself.
I am glad these guys really do “research” on what we have said here. I believe one should be proactive on solving issue then to regret it later. It is better to let the developer know our concerns earlier and hopefully the developer will make the development better. If this happens we all will be proud to be part of it. We have made a prudent investment over other developers in Mont Kiara.
Well if you are still not worried, that’s fine. Let’s hope their professional people are right and ours are wrong. We are now in almost end of 1st QTR of 2007. The delivery is Nov/Dec 2007 time frame.
Comment by Roger — March 23, 2007 @ 11:28 am
Email was sent last week but no response. They don’t even have the guts to reply your mail.
What are they doing actually?
Comment by boogeyman — March 23, 2007 @ 11:51 am
hi boo, what is the problem of Kiaramas ?? can you tell me because you keepon meantion their quality on this forums
Comment by K'Cendana Owner — March 23, 2007 @ 11:58 am
errr….cendana’s workmanship has nothing wrong dont worry…..its the security not up to expectation….quite shitty I say…..I mention cendana few times because kiaramas cendana is actually a lower end condo than kiaraville…..but the quality is very good…..hope Binaderas will make kiaraville a better one than kiaramas….dont worry!!
Comment by boogeyman — March 23, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
Thanks boo
Comment by K\'Cendana Owner — March 23, 2007 @ 6:10 pm
I have e-mailed them on three occasions already in the last two months and i have till date not recd any replies. I think its better for us to be proactive and discuss our concerns with the developer through a meeting.
Comment by swade — March 23, 2007 @ 7:44 pm
May I say that I mention about the walkway environment to units not the quality, I would say it can pass but it doesn’t feel grand or high end condo. For outside is not completed so no say, but the progress should have been faster.
I certainly want to have higher standard than that, and efficient developer because I don’t pay rm200/per sq ft.
Comment by mcf — March 24, 2007 @ 1:29 am
Not sure why the developer is not responding to emails sent to them. Hope they put in a little effort to respond to customer enquiry. This will make the difference.
I too expect high quality from Kiaraville development. That was what I understood from beginning. But friends told me that I was so confident initially because I used a simple comparison methodology to compare with other developments in the same area. The data skewed as my mind influenced the gathering of information because I wanted to buy it period.
But all is not lost yet…………. There is always HOPE. Hope the developer will deliver, and the development is a beautiful one. Hopefully there is still enough time.
Comment by Roger — March 26, 2007 @ 9:56 am
I personally think better wait for them to complete KV b4 u buy K4. Can’t get the level of satisfaction investing with developer who don’t care about their client, and not getting the same customer service that I have expected of them.
Don’t put any more money for before u really know what they are, hope not I-Zen.
Comment by mcf — March 26, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
I-Zen investors are left on their own, after signing. NO assistant to rental selling or promotion to enhance to value. Tell me what do u know about I-Zen, what can u think of.
I am already taking a big step to buy Ireka project, because of CapitalLand is still too early for me to judge, prove me wrong.
Comment by mcf — March 26, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
roger, since you bought yours with 10& discount, you should not worry too much.
if you feel desperate to exit, I have someone willing to take your unit. Email me for more information. Thanks!!
Comment by boogeyman — March 27, 2007 @ 11:47 am
Boogeyman,
Actually I intend to stay there while waiting for other projects to complete. My plan was to stay for 2 to 3 years so as to avoid the property gains tax if I decided to sell after 5 years. That is why I was excited about the Kiaraville delivery. But thing has changed for better now with the latest tax news. I hope Kiaraville will turn out good. I will definitely stay. FYI, I only get 8% instead.
A friend told me about Sunrise’s MK 11. Went to the sales office and saw a lot of foreigners crowded there (I think Koreans) but not sure what they are buying. There is no info about the project yet. I saw the little glass display model of the project.
What do you guys think of the project?
Comment by Roger — March 27, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
Boogeyman, I will definitely come back to you if I decided to sell after handover. Thanks for your help.
Comment by Roger — March 27, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
MK 11 is build on 3 acres land, if not wrong is 300 units, maintenance is close to MK 10. Target selling price RM600-650 per sq ft. A more modern structure design compare with their pass project.
Not as valuable as MK 10, still u don’t know what they will bundle in to enhance the value. I believe Sunrise know how to tap your pocket.
Comment by mcf — March 27, 2007 @ 7:58 pm
btw where is the location of MK11 TQ!
Comment by Tony — March 28, 2007 @ 7:48 am
Not interested after completion, if you so worry here is the chance to offload your unit, you have nothing to lose, thus you can sleep well and your gold buddy wont pressure you, and you dont have to keep waiting responses from developer, you dont have to go and check out the construction status every now and then.
Comment by boogeyman — March 28, 2007 @ 10:42 am
If sunrise price their MK11 above 600psf I guess it would be much better to put your money in Bangsar or KLCC.
Tony the MK11 is gonna located next to MK10.
Comment by boogeyman — March 28, 2007 @ 10:44 am
Boogeyman,If you offload now, what is the selling price? 20% above purchase price? I have to take care of tax, agent fee, developer penalty, bank penalty etc. Could you get it in this region? I believe we should get close to this level after completion (no tax). If you could do it please let know your contact. It’s a good idea so now I can switch to probably MK11.
Comment by Roger — March 28, 2007 @ 11:30 am
No Tax, no agent commission, you are dealing with buyer diretly, no penalty from developer, bank penalty should be 3% of your loan amount….
lets say you pay 1m for your unit, and loan 800k, all you need to pay is 24k to the bank.
But you need to get consent from developer.
If you think you can get 20% above purchase price now, then you’ll probably be getting 40% upon completion.
If you are confident, you should wait! If not, let it go but definitely not with huge profit.
Comment by boogeyman — March 28, 2007 @ 11:43 am
Tks Boogeyman.
HaVE BEEN TOLD BY THE DEVELOPER SALE OFFICE THAT THE PRICE HAD INCREASED TO ANOTHER 8% FROM THE ORIGINAL PRICE FOR THE REMAIN UNIT
Comment by Tony — March 29, 2007 @ 7:45 am
I have spend rm5k to Yap Cheng Hai to access my unit and I’ll be sticking to my unit.
And I like to location compare to the rest of MK, beside the concern that I have. I study to location for 2 years b4 I decided to stay.
But again progress is not impressive.
Comment by mcf — March 29, 2007 @ 8:32 am
Tony you can take a look at Idaman residence behind Poppy garden, is a value buy. Don’t worry about the sales respond now you will gain when completed, my suggestion. Cheers.
Comment by mcf — March 29, 2007 @ 8:49 am
almost 500 psf for the remain unit.
Comment by Tony — March 29, 2007 @ 9:46 am
is that still good buy?
Comment by Tony — March 29, 2007 @ 9:52 am
I remember is rm600/per sq ft, around KLCC you won’t get the change to find. Is fairly a good project not sure of their delivery date or quality, from the model is good.
Comment by mcf — March 29, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
any ideas what is the going rate for mark services residences…It was my other choice but bought kiaraville so that can get more in terms of size…now wondering if it was a good desicion
Comment by swade — March 30, 2007 @ 12:01 am
hi mcf, wat u mean rm600/psf? the remain unit on blk A type A lower is selling at 1m +. btw how you ask Yap Cheng Hai to access your unit teh project is not complete yet and wat rate they charge?
Comment by Tony — March 30, 2007 @ 7:53 am
who is this yap cheng hai? he brought you to the unit?
if Binaderas know that he would be in trouble.
And I dont think it worth 5k though…..you can ask the project manager to bring you in but at your own risk!!
Comment by boogeyman — March 30, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
feng shui sifu
Comment by Tony — March 30, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
oh…mch…..what did the feng shui sifu said about your unit? your unit facing south east right?
Comment by boogeyman — March 31, 2007 @ 12:33 am
Who’s unit?
Comment by Tony — March 31, 2007 @ 8:27 am
my unit feng shui is good for me, is great.
Comment by mcf — March 31, 2007 @ 10:22 am
Just went to the Kiaraville website. Very nice and clean design. I must say!
Comment by claude — April 1, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
The performance and service currently not looking so pleasing, don’t know about after sells service.
Comment by mcf — April 2, 2007 @ 8:04 am
Very interesting comments..
Comment by sp — April 10, 2007 @ 10:42 pm
Amazingly many comments on kiaravile, did not follow up all, but surely glad to have so many owners were concerned about their sweet home….. but don’t too worry, Ireka on Izen was not really bad, the project eventually turn out quite pleasing. Let look far and further, we have indeed invest in right location and right property, i can sell my unit now for at least 40% above market price, just called up Knight Frank, almost all units sold and it is great for us.. Seni Mont Kiara right next to kiaraville, will be another heaven for investor, was told the next development will change the skyline of Mont’ Kiara…. Let’s wait and see…
Comment by benny — April 11, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
Amazingly many comments on kiaravile, did not follow up all, but surely glad to have so many owners were concerned about their sweet home….. but don’t too worry, Ireka on Izen was not really bad, the project eventually turn out quite pleasing. Let look far and further, we have indeed invest in right location and right property, i can sell my unit now for at least 40% above market price, just called up Knight Frank, almost all units sold and it is great for us.. Seni Mont Kiara right next to kiaraville, will be another heaven for investor, was told the next development will change the skyline of Mont’ Kiara…. Let’s wait and see…
Comment by benny — April 11, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
Yes I thought it was good initially. I agreed with you that the location is good too, except for the highway noise. The internal individual unit layout design was one of the best even though the compound of the condominium is congested.
I think the developer have paid compensations to the purchasers for their late delivery of their other condos nearby. Similarly we may have to wait in the queue for the compensation as well.
If the market price now is at 40% above purchase price please let us know. I am ready to dispose my unit immediately. I do not wish to wait further for a period unknown to me. At 40% it is fantastic.
There are more condominiums coming up in Mont Kiara. Now we are spoilt for choice.
Kiaraville 2 is located in the V shaped highways. I have not seen the façade of the building and the design yet. At 600 units, I find it difficult to manage the condominium eventually.
In the end of the day…………. If you are an investor everything is OK.
Comment by Roger — April 12, 2007 @ 11:10 am
Check this out:
http://www.myrealestate.com.my/index.php
Comment by Roger — April 14, 2007 @ 10:39 am
price increased another 8-10% this week.
Comment by Tony — April 17, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
“paper gain”… meaning price increase… on a 1900 sq ft unit is 200k as per today for the people who booked early, and 400k for the large units. calculated based on developers price as per today, compared to the booking price in 2005-2006. Not sure how relevant this is.
Comment by Bill — April 17, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
The price has increased for which units…whats available and whats the price?
Comment by swade — April 18, 2007 @ 12:46 am
This is the unsold unit with new prices
Type A
A-1-1 1,014,120 NEW PRICE 1,124,400.00
A-2-1 1,044,360 NEW PRICE 1,127,900.00
A-1-7 1,061,640 NEW PRICE 1,146,600.00
A-2-7 1,065,960 NEW PRICE 1,151,200.00
Comment by Tony — April 18, 2007 @ 7:44 am
This is good news. I am happy that the price has gone up and I hope it will turn into real transaction price. I believe this will happen since the building materials have gone up as well.
Hope for the BEST now.
Comment by Roger — April 18, 2007 @ 5:24 pm
Solaris will be handover in a month or 2, joy.
Comment by mcf — April 21, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
should be end of 2007
Comment by Tony — April 22, 2007 @ 10:47 am
Yeah I was informed that the price has been increased TWICE. The delivery date is still schedule in December 2007.
Comment by boogeyman — April 24, 2007 @ 11:13 am
shoplot will hand over b4 the complex, be happy.
Comment by mcf — April 24, 2007 @ 9:22 pm
shoplot will hand over b4 the complex, be happy.
Comment by mcf — April 24, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
after visit the above site, some people got 15% discount.
any early buyers here can clarify this?
10% discount was given in jan 2005 before they launch, never realised 15% discount was given to group buy customers.
Comment by boogeyman — April 25, 2007 @ 12:07 am
Teh earlyibird discount was 10% then 8% then 6% then 4% then 2% then 0% now and price increased up twice up to 500+ psf
Comment by Tony — April 25, 2007 @ 11:31 am
I’m looking to purchase Kiaraville (last minute decision), the above units listed by Tony are the ones that are available? Any idea whether the Type G & H still available?
Comment by Alex — April 25, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
Type G still available 1 unit at 1.58+
Type H
E-2-1 NEW PRICE 1,957,300.00
E-2-2 NEW PRICE RM1,939,300.00
E-3A-2 1,866,960 - SOLD!!!
E-7-2 1,896,300 NEW PRICE 1,991,100.00
E-9-2 1,916,250 NEW PRICE RM2,012,100.00
E-10-2 1,925,700 NEW PRICE 2,022,000.00
Type F
C-1-2 845,640 NEW PRICE 913,300.00
C-2-2 848,880 NEW PRICE 916,800.00
C-1-3 874,800 NEW PRICE RM944,800.00
Type G
D-3A-2 1,438,020NEW PRICE 1,581,800.00
Comment by Tony — April 25, 2007 @ 1:43 pm
Thanks, Tony. Interested in Type G, any idea which view is the unit facing? I guess whatever views don’t matter since it’s on lower floor and all views will be blocked.
Comment by Alex — April 25, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
I know the 10% discount was given in jan 2005. But doubt the existence of “15% discount”.
Anyone can clarify this?
Comment by boogeyman — April 25, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
Called KV sales office and was told only 2 Type G garden units left, both on level one (4,728sf@RM1,971,500 and 4,912sf@Rm2,092,000).
Bit disappointed as these 2 units are way too large for me and imagine the effort take to maintain the garden.
Tony, you sure type G that you mentioned is still available?
Comment by Alex — April 25, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
maybe some one already book but not sure
Comment by Tony — April 25, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
I was just told the empty plot of land between La Grande and Solaris is reserved for religious purposes and that a mosque will soon be built there.
Commercially this makes little sense to me - many owners of high-end condos around that place (Kiaraville, La Grande, Tiffany etc.) are unlikely to be bumis/muslim. I wonder what this will do to the value of near-by condos.
Does anyone have firm/confirmed information on this plot of land?
Comment by jo — April 27, 2007 @ 1:51 pm
should be transport hub instead of mosque, please clarify.
Comment by Tony — April 27, 2007 @ 8:01 pm
Alex, I am looking to offload my KV - let me know if you are interested in a type F ~ 1900 sf.
Comment by Kiaraville Owner-type F — April 27, 2007 @ 8:43 pm
Hi how much you want to offload your type F?
Comment by Tony — April 28, 2007 @ 9:21 am
I went to the show unit week ago and was told that all the ground floor garden units has been taken up.
I heard that piece of land will be developed as fine dining retail centre.
Comment by sp — April 28, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
I went to the show unit a week ago and i was told that all the ground floor garden units have been taken up.
jo, i heard that piece of land will eventually developed as fine dining retail centre.
Comment by sp — April 28, 2007 @ 12:33 pm
The unit is high floor. Please email me at jimm@drexo.com if you are interested
Comment by Kiaraville Owner-type F — April 28, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
1900sf not suitable, I need a larger unit, around 3000sf. Called Hijauan Kiara hope to have some luck but was told only a few ’super deluve condo’ and ‘duplex’ units left (approx. 3,700sf) starting from around RM2,000,000.
Actually, compare to Damai or Aman (at RM700+psf) these units are still reasonably ‘economic’ at RM540psf. Not sure whether to go ahead as time is running out for me, I need someplace new to stay early 2008.
Comment by Alex — April 29, 2007 @ 9:00 am
Hi Alex, did you interested Kiaramas Cendana? mine is 2,500sf.
Comment by seller — April 29, 2007 @ 12:16 pm
The plot of land is not going to be mosque, rejected by Sunrise and residents. Don worry.
Comment by mcf — April 29, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
10@Mont Kiara still have some units available, or Kiaraville Type G and H, also Tiffany Kallista. All over 3000sf and under 2mil.
Out of the above developments only Kiaraville would be completed within 10 months or early 2008.
Maybe you can consider Mont Kiara Damai, its pricey but it carries Sunrise’s brand.
Comment by boogeyman — April 30, 2007 @ 12:41 am
For Kiaraville, anyone know whether they will put those bumi reserved units on the market once the CF has issued or all bumi units already sold out?
Comment by Alex — April 30, 2007 @ 9:30 am
Kiaraville dont have any bumi unit, the developer had move the quota to another project
Comment by Tony — April 30, 2007 @ 11:31 am
Tiffany Kallista, only remain type A 2,726sf
Comment by Tony — April 30, 2007 @ 11:35 am
Kallista Type A, facing west, but layout is good. 1.2m++
Comment by boogeyman — April 30, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
Cannot wait that long for Tiffani. I saw ads selling Floral Murni condo 3,125sf for RM1.5m, wonder what sort of quality it’s like? Has anyone view it?
Comment by Alex — April 30, 2007 @ 7:06 pm
Alex check out this forum http://mypropertytalk.com/viewtopic.php?t=308&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Comment by Tony — April 30, 2007 @ 10:56 pm
would like to offload my type C 2,500sf unit low floor nice view. interested pls msg to ncnz@hotmail.com
Comment by KV Owner — May 3, 2007 @ 9:53 am
are you the same person who wanted to sell his type C for 1.2million?
Comment by boogeyman — May 3, 2007 @ 10:59 am
nope, me want 1.3m
Comment by KV Owner — May 3, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
same seller who want 1.3m now? 3rd floor unit number 5?
Comment by boogeyman — May 4, 2007 @ 10:38 am
err mine is 2nd floor.
Comment by KV Owner — May 4, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
boog are you agent? how did you know he/she want to sell the unit at 1.3m?
Comment by Tony — May 4, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
no am not agent am an owner of type G someone was wanting to let go his type C for 1.2m months ago I thought it was the same seller here who want 1.3m.
Comment by boogeyman — May 4, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
if you are not agent why you want expose ppl unit etc on the forum, this is very private matter.
Comment by Tony — May 4, 2007 @ 10:44 pm
ya should not talk private thing on the public forum.
Comment by tt — May 5, 2007 @ 10:44 am
tony are you agent or work for the developer if not you want expose developer price in public forum
Comment by boogeyman — May 5, 2007 @ 11:42 am
yeah boogiman i’m try to sell the remainder then ni choi!!
Comment by Tony — May 5, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
Thank for the update, good to hear from developer.
Comment by mcf — May 5, 2007 @ 7:20 pm
Does anyone have any news on the completion date for Kiaraville? From what I understand work is carried out 7 days of week but it appears the amount of people working are not that many.
I can see progress but it just seems really slow.
Comment by jo — May 6, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
slower than u can imagine, Hijaun Kaira hand over in june 06′ launch later then Kiaraville. Nov last year they starts to build the pool deck may 07′ today they r still building the pool deck.
Comment by mcf — May 6, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
Thanks, mcf. My thinking exactly. Do you happen to have any idea about a new handover date? When I visited the showroom the claim they’ll still handover on time but I don’t trust the girls there (not saying they’re necessarily lying, you repeating what they’ve been told to say I guess)
Comment by jo — May 6, 2007 @ 6:42 pm
Hijauan Kiara is still under construction, will be completed end of this year.
Kiaraville’s completion date is december 2007 but I dont think so. What are they doing actually?
Comment by boogeyman — May 7, 2007 @ 11:50 am
sorry typing error, was inform Hijauan Kiara hand over this June or August.
i am quiet worry, how they intend to deliver.
Comment by mcf — May 8, 2007 @ 7:26 am
I wish we can walk proud with Kiaraville, not feeling like second class citizen.
Comment by mcf — May 8, 2007 @ 7:33 am
I feel the same, mcf. No info coming out of Binaderas oso. I very worry about delays. As boogeyman says “what are they doing actually”?
Comment by jo — May 8, 2007 @ 11:08 am
Kiaraville’s progress is exactly the same 5 months ago. Mcf, have you contact the developer? What did they say about the progress?
Comment by boogeyman — May 10, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
Omigosh! This blog is freaking me out. Can’t imagine a prestige, reputable and good project like Kiaraville is drawing in all the weirdos and clowns into it. Will just sell mine and just stick to my Sunrise. Can’t imagine having the weirdos and clowns as my neighbours.
Comment by Wronged — May 10, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
Don’t be fretted. Blogs do turn people topsyturvy and to especially the guilty ones. But without it, looks like everything is alright on the surface. To live in condominium is always hard. One gets irritated very quickly as people do thing differently all the time in condominium. Some though that they are more right then the others. Just one example that I would like to cite here is, drivers of big cars will park their cars in front of the porch in the morning waiting for their bosses and thereby preventing other people to enter. In fact they should wait in the drivers’ room provided and proceed to the porch area upon a call from their bosses. Difficult to solve but I know the rich are weirdos or clowns too like you have said.
By the way, some Kiaraville buyers are also buying Sunrise properties and vice versa. This makes it very unpleasant for you to run to. No place in the world is so ideal. I know there are pieces of it. Kiaraville is one and indeed is the one to own. The only place I guess for you is PUCHONG…….. There you have good neighbours!
Comment by Roger — May 10, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
I think Roger makes a lot of sense. Also, in regards to potential dealys etc: If MK Solaris can hand over in Q2 (supposedly), I don’t see why Kiaraville can’t hand over as planned end of the year.
My wife spoke to a guy (no, I won’t mention names in a public forum) who’s fairly high up the chain at Binaderas and he’s adamant they’re on schedule to complete and hand over as promised.
Comment by scott — May 10, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
I think Jinjang kepong is more suitable for Mr. Wronged, over there he can feel he is Mr. Right. Mr. so called high end, Kiaraville is low for u, to show us u so noble sell the cheap Kiaraville to me at cheap price since u so rich. Richy rich?
Comment by mcf — May 10, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
We’re here to express our feeling and also our passion, it also show how much we care about this project.
Scott, I have also spoken to someone from Binaderas and he assured me that Kiaraville will be completed on time, I feel much better after getting his explanation. I suggest some of you here who own a unit in Kiaraville should pay a visit to this man if you still have any doubts.
Comment by boogeyman — May 10, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
Mr. Wronged, what makes you think we are weirdos or clowns? What makes you think you are so noble?
Comment by boogeyman — May 10, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
i have never met a developer who will tell their purchaser, the project is behind schedule. I believe what I c, of cause this time I hope I’m wrong. I talked to the “people” at the office, they have agreed my observation.
Comment by mcf — May 11, 2007 @ 1:50 am
Hi, I thinking of purchasing a unit at kiaraville. Anyone selling their unit? Interested in type E or F.
Comment by whcheng — May 11, 2007 @ 10:26 am
whcheng, you buying one for your own use? someone here got a type F want to let go for 850k.
Comment by boogeyman — May 13, 2007 @ 12:34 pm
Hi boogeyman, yes, i’m thinking to get one to stay. Do you know who is willing to sell?
Comment by whcheng — May 13, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
I know someone who is looking for buyer for his type F, low floor facing city and pool. He will contact you soon I believe.
Comment by boogeyman — May 13, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
whcheng - I got a type F - high floor. Please email me at jimm@drexo.com if you are still interested
Comment by Kiaraville Owner-type F — May 19, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
Hi Kiaraville Owner-type F, have you sell your unit? how much?
Comment by tony — June 18, 2007 @ 6:21 pm
Nope, still available - email me at the above address if you are interested
Comment by Kiaraville Owner-type F — June 19, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
I heard there are some sub sales happening at RM 550 for kiaraville units advertised in the papers…any idea what sizes and the numbers so far.
Comment by swade — June 22, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
those are the asking price I believe, actual transacted price (if any) should be from 500psf - 530psf. have to call developer to confirm if there is any transaction.
seni mont kiara aka kiaraville 2 will be launching in july, showroom will be ready for public viewing after soft launch to kiarville owners. price start from 550psf.
Comment by boogeyman — June 24, 2007 @ 3:30 am
any idea what percentage discount for existing kiaraville owners and bulk purchase…
Comment by swade — June 24, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
Very interested in buying Kiaraville Type C,G even H.
We are buyer from HK and will be there in a month for a site tour and hope to be able to get one then.
Anybody can help with updated info on the pricing or any seller for direct dealing ?
Thanks in advance !
Comment by minipini — July 17, 2007 @ 11:59 am
Hi minipini, pls give your e-mail address so that I can forward so detail to you.
Comment by K owner — July 17, 2007 @ 12:15 pm
klhworld@yahoo.com
Comment by minipini — July 17, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
Any inerested party who wants to purchase my unit? I am looking at RM550psf. Type D1 Block C. Size 1858. Facing Genting View. Interested call me at 019-2788555 (Jasri)
Comment by Jasri Ali — July 20, 2007 @ 11:46 am
Would like to hear view on Block A, Type 1. Interested to buy. Thanks
Comment by gp — July 26, 2007 @ 10:26 pm
Looking to purchase two adjoining units type E. Contact me at the above address
Comment by axxo — July 29, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Hi minipini, a friend owns G is looking to sell. Contact me
Comment by axxo — July 29, 2007 @ 12:26 am
GP, type 1 is being sandwitched by type 2/B and the low rise, not a very good one, type A/7 a better one, I still prefer my own G and cant wait to see the end product.
Type C is good but only the high floor otherwise they are facing the type G
Comment by boogeyman — July 29, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
Have bought a unit at Kiaraville - type C 2500 sq ft. Like the others who commented, I was also concern about the slow progress as seem from the construction site. Went to view the actual unit with the Project manager. Surprisingly the interior was almost 100% completed, with air-cons, built-in etc fully installed. Overall finishing was more than satisfactory, the walls and ceiling have an extra layer of skim-coat, therefore it looks very nice and smooth. Built-ins and kitchen cabinets are exactly what we saw in the show unit. Quality is good. For those who have invested, there should be good capital appreciation. Taking into consideration KV2 new launch is selling at RM680 per sq ft before discount. Heard the take up rate is quite good. There are some block bookings from foreign investors. I believe KV1 value sh be no less than RM600 per sq ft when completed, otherwise who will invest in KV2?
Comment by KiaraVille Owner — August 9, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
Ya, I view the actual unit too. The finishing is very good and they try to upgrade the lift lobby to marble.
Comment by Tony — August 9, 2007 @ 10:51 pm
for those who missed the reviewed of the ‘Kiaraville Phase 2′, or Seni, you can read it here.
http://propertymalaysia.blogsome.com/2007/07/26/seni-montkiara-montkiara/
Comment by Administrator — August 10, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
Hi kiaraville owner…how much did you pay for your 2500sqft apt…Hope you got a sweet deal
Comment by swade — August 10, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
Hi Swade, the purchase price for my unit was 360 psf. Got 10% discount during the initial soft launch. As for now it has appreciated quite a bit, yet to know the exact value when fully completed. Depends a lot on how good is the finishing for the whole project. Hope the developer will do up the exterior like lobby, lift area, land scaping etc.. nicely to look more impressive.
Comment by Kiaraville owner — August 15, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
I’m interested in a purchase but i have no idea how the legal work will be like. Can someone advise me how this works? I think Kiaraville is now about ~60% complete. Do i have to pay 100% of the purchase price to the seller for a partially completed property? As a buyer, i think it would be very unfair for me to pay 100% of purchase price for a 60% completed property.
I heard from another forum (www.myrealestate.com.my) that the S&P may be in limbo until vacant possession. I on my own have asked lots of people who have apparently sold their property under construction but no one was able to give me any details on a simple question like the above.
Comment by Interested Party — August 19, 2007 @ 1:01 pm
Anybody is interested to buy the Kiaraville Phase 1? Please email at ajasri67@yahoo.com
Comment by Jasri Ali — August 21, 2007 @ 10:08 am
interior finishing is showroom quality, no complain. Value should hold from rm550, to rm650 upon completion. I would say that I am happy to pay for what I get, it is beyond what we pay if compare with surrounding projects.
Comment by buyer — August 23, 2007 @ 11:47 pm
See comment 480. Any help appreciated.
Comment by Interested Party — August 26, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
The transaction can only take place with consent from developer. Once consent received, developer confirms amount outstanding and buyer will only pay purchase price less the outstanding sum. After S&P transacted, new buyer is responsible to pay the developer for the outstanding sum.
Comment by information for interested party — August 26, 2007 @ 9:57 pm
Hi interested party, mind sharing which unit at which block you are buying? hoe much you are paying? thanks.
Comment by boogeyman — August 26, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
I have call the developer. They say they will not issue consent for subsale before VP
Comment by Tony — August 27, 2007 @ 11:41 am
“information for Interested Party”, thank you for the information.
Boogeyman, i am researching for the purchase right now.
Tony, is this correct? Based from what i hear, there have been cases of sub-sales for Kiaraville. Can you advise who you spoke to at the developer?
Comment by Interested Party — August 27, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
I’ve talk to the GM, they not allow subsale before VP. Maybe something is going on?
Comment by boogeyman — August 27, 2007 @ 11:22 pm
Have anyone here view the actual unit, n what do u guys think?
Have anyone of u make purchase on K5? do u like the new project comparing to K4?
Comment by mcf — August 29, 2007 @ 12:10 am
boogeyman, not sure what is going on.
Comment by Interested Party — August 29, 2007 @ 12:43 am
boogeyman what is the big plan for yr new home to be? Did u go for Seni? It is selling very well people are really impress ed.
Comment by mcf — September 5, 2007 @ 12:40 am
Prepare to move in as soon as ID is done.
I am not interested in seni kiara, too expensive. I am lucky I bought mine at a bargain price, if compare to the other newly launched condos.
Comment by boogeyman — September 5, 2007 @ 12:50 am
Have u got yr design? I believe u will like yr unit, is pretty close to the show unit standard. Seni offer much more luxury comfort and facilities, I like it a lot.
Comment by mcf — September 5, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
Not yet got the design.
To make my unit like show room I need at least 500,000. I only have a budget of 250,000.
Comment by boogeyman — September 6, 2007 @ 11:07 am
aiyo. why pay so much money to buy seni and risk the noise from the high way. I am sure there is better project to buy with that kind of money?
Comment by information for interested party — September 6, 2007 @ 6:21 pm
250k is a good budget to spend basically u have most of everything, unless u plan to change the cabinets. Buying bed and furniture with that money is more than fair price.
interest party, where do u think is a good selection?
Comment by mcf — September 7, 2007 @ 12:41 am
I recently visited the Kiaraville showroom at Block E. This unti has the best layout and very quiet and peaceful. The whole of MOnt Kiara is so noisy and dusty especially the units on higher flrs. I recently visited quite a few properties in this area, the view of highway with heavy flow of moving vehicles is not so breathtaking as some ppl think. For another project in thies area and not so near the highway would be MK11.
Comment by information for interested party — September 8, 2007 @ 1:37 am
Has the earthquake affect the condo in Mont Kiara?
Comment by boogeyman — September 14, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
buy seni - gonna be awesome
Comment by paulopaulo — September 14, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
I have put off buying a condo for the time being. Unfavourable economic conditions. Thanks for helping with my queries.
Comment by Interested Party — September 16, 2007 @ 10:16 am
Every Kiaraville owner must take a look at this. Many interior and exterior photos.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=476462
Comment by boogeyman — September 17, 2007 @ 12:07 am
anyone interested to dispose 2400 sq ft unit please e-mail me at stanllysim788@yahoo.com
Comment by mcf — October 6, 2007 @ 11:24 pm
Kiaraville will be delayed. Developer unable to meet the completion date, December 2007.
Comment by boogeyman — October 24, 2007 @ 11:51 am
confirmed completion date delay to 1Q 2008
Comment by Tony — October 29, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
You sure? That is so disappointing. But I hope the reason is that they need more time for QC.
Any comfirmed date of completion? January, February or March?
Comment by boogeyman — October 31, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
i hear from the project manager that it will be delayed 1 month hence completed by end jan.
Comment by alex — November 1, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
Do you trust them?
Comment by boogeyman — November 2, 2007 @ 11:07 am
i am really not sure but i was told that they were 1 month behind schedule.
Comment by alex — November 3, 2007 @ 12:31 pm
Talk to binaderas, they confirmed that the project will completed on end Dec but CF on jan or feb 08.
Comment by Tony — November 4, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Tony, are you someone from Binaderas? I went to Mont Kiara just now and from the outlook it doesn’t look like completion in December but more like March/April 2008.
Comment by boogeyman — November 4, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
nope I’m owner of Block A
Comment by Tony — November 4, 2007 @ 7:29 pm
They do not want to give me a firm date, cause I go there everyday. Estimate around Feb to March will hand over, they are using the additional 3 months interior work period to complete the project. When they hand over on March they are still on time. And the other part of the reason for the delay is the earth work at Seni, it will be a mess and congestion to the traffic at Dec.
Comment by mcf — November 5, 2007 @ 2:14 am
Any interested party to buy my unit Type D1 Block C. Size at 1858. Genting view. selling price is RM530-RM550 psf negotiable. Interested pls contact me at ajasri67@yahoo.com
Comment by Jas — November 6, 2007 @ 11:20 am
Strong response to Sunrise’s launch of MK11 yet to be reflected in shr price. Units released were fully sold at RM730 psf, 9% more than earlier est of RM670. Raising FY09/10 EPS & TP to RM4.60. Maintain O/P; FY08 PE of 8x (Daily)
Comment by paulopaulo — November 9, 2007 @ 1:18 pm
How about Ireka share price ?
Comment by trader — November 10, 2007 @ 5:46 pm
OMG!! mine unit number changed from 5 to “3A”
Comment by Tony — November 15, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
OMG!! But is it so serious dude?
Comment by boogeyman — November 18, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
what is the problem with 3A?
Comment by alex — November 18, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
notice there are 4 numbers in a block, 1,2,3 and 5 on the site plan, is the 5 being changed to 3A?
Comment by yumi — November 18, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
Yes 5 is changed to 3A. I prefer 3A then 5!
Comment by alex — November 18, 2007 @ 10:48 pm
I prefer 5 cos 3A mean 4
Comment by Tony — November 20, 2007 @ 11:34 am
Does that means that for eg, C-8-5 becomes C-8-3A? What about C-3A-5, will it be C-3A-3A?
Comment by yumi — November 20, 2007 @ 8:32 pm
C-8-5 = to C-8-3A
C-3A-5 = to C-4-3A
Comment by Tony — November 20, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
Thank you. As I just bought a unit at Seni at unit no 5, I guess it will be changed to 3A too. rather 3A than 4.
Comment by yumi — November 20, 2007 @ 10:51 pm
it does not matter whether it is 3A or 5 so long as it is not 4! these numbers are used to identify the units. 3A is 3A and i do not agree with Tony that it represents 4
Comment by alex — November 20, 2007 @ 11:15 pm
yumi, which type and what is the price you paying psf? TQ!
Comment by Tony — November 21, 2007 @ 7:46 am
whatever…do we really care - seni will make money for us all…
Comment by paulopaulo — November 21, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
Whatever the unit no, it won’t affect the prices. Maybe if the unit address no is 8-8-8 = Block 8, 8 floor, no 8… then i will prefer to buy this unit compare to others with same price and specs.
Comment by investor — November 21, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
likewise if the address is 4-4-4, i would avoid this… till the last option…
Comment by investor — November 21, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
My unit is RM701psf before discount, it is 2411sq ft
Comment by yumi — November 21, 2007 @ 9:45 pm
Your should be high floor? the phase 2 is starting from 700psf
Comment by Tony — November 22, 2007 @ 11:22 am
Yes, high floor
Comment by yumi — November 22, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
anyone has update on the progress of kiaraville?
Comment by alex — December 15, 2007 @ 12:19 am
Check out mypropertytalk.com. So far it all looks really fantastic and according to my ‘agent’, the developers have delivered a top-class product. Also, Solaris will be a gem for the residents….so convenient. I’m rethinking selling my unit.
Comment by connie — December 15, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
It doesn’t look like they can get it done by January. By the way, whose idea is it to put up the metal fencing insterad of decorative perimeter wall? It looks cheap.
Comment by boogeyman — December 28, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
someone mentioned that they can hv better perimeter security as they are able to install sensors along the fencing. it looks naked but the according to the developer they will plant trees along the fence.
Comment by alex — December 30, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
Let’s wait and see how it turn out to be then.
Comment by boogeyman — December 31, 2007 @ 11:01 am
I m thinking to buy a property for investment in KL. But the price has jumped up a lot. do u think it would be a bit risky to invest now? Is the second-hand market still active now? In terms of investment, is KLCC better than Mont kiara? I really need some advice, pls.
Comment by will — January 4, 2008 @ 3:04 pm
KLCC - over supply. use your imagination, how are we gonna get so many tenants to fill in all the condos? We have something like over 10000 units coming on stream in the next 2 years or so in KLCC area.
Mont Kiara - Similar to KLCC but not as serious, so you have to choose the right development.
You can forget about Kiaraville because good units are not available. You can consider the Seni Kiara or the Lumina Kiara.
Comment by boogeyman — January 7, 2008 @ 1:53 am
Apparently, Seni MontKiara Phase 1 has over 90% sales, but Phase 2 will be launched soon..price I would guess around $600 psf
Comment by connie — January 16, 2008 @ 10:18 pm
I bought seni phase 1 - 666sq/ft
Comment by paulopaulo — January 17, 2008 @ 1:26 pm
I paid around 600psf…low floor, landscape view. So I guess phase 2 will be higher than that.
Comment by connie — January 17, 2008 @ 2:46 pm
Good choice, if I could afford Seni I’ll get a Type A.
Comment by boogeyman — January 18, 2008 @ 1:13 am
Phase 2 from 700psf for highrise
Comment by Tony — January 19, 2008 @ 10:17 am
Is phase 2 open for business?
Comment by connie — January 19, 2008 @ 8:09 pm
phase 2 open for public after CNY
Comment by Tony — January 20, 2008 @ 8:54 am
i should correct the 666 ps ft for phase one as its furished…net its 580 per sq ft - 666 includes full furniture package.
Comment by paulopaulo — January 21, 2008 @ 1:54 pm
They didn’t offer that F/Furnished package to me…
Anyway, I wonder how much Kiaraville will be on the market now that is nearly finished.
Comment by connie — January 21, 2008 @ 4:49 pm
About 600 - 700psf for Kiaraville.
Comment by boogeyman — January 22, 2008 @ 12:55 am
Connie, i got seni through a broker in Hong Kong who was offering them on units within Van Gogh (phase 1) - facing KLCC (580 net, 666 inc furniture package)
Comment by paulopaulo — January 22, 2008 @ 11:26 am
Paolo, That’s pretty good. I paid a little less as I’m also a kiaraville owner, another 2% less.
Comment by connie — January 22, 2008 @ 9:42 pm
Good news! Seni had incresed another 5% by the developer.
Comment by Tony — January 23, 2008 @ 10:03 am
those who bought kiaraville will have good return.. congratulation to the developer selling so cheap and good for us, early bird, compensation, early handover first batch.. best view in MK. best finishes so far, i have seen my unit, quality was good and best pool deck design ever seen in other sunrise project, many time better than damai.
i have made wise choice.
Comment by boogeman — February 6, 2008 @ 8:11 am
Congratulation to all owner. The price had appreciated more than 50%
Comment by Tony — February 6, 2008 @ 11:19 am
Eagerly waiting for Kiaraville keys? Can anyone please enlighting me on when is the handover? TQVM
newowner
Comment by Mdm Teng — February 12, 2008 @ 11:28 am
Should be early March?
Comment by Tony — February 12, 2008 @ 5:48 pm
Yes, got to see the site…really loved it. Pool area gorgeous, Outdoor area, driveway, carparks open, bright, organised. The unit itself was up to expectation, entrance great, built-ins, kitchen, bathrooms all lovely and the view from mine is fabulous.
Comment by connie — February 14, 2008 @ 5:10 pm
You are lucky! They have band all the viewer from now on.
Comment by Tony — February 14, 2008 @ 7:00 pm
Take heart Tony! It’s ok we got “ban” as of now. Hope we will be grinning from ear to ear if we see how fabulous our units are as per connie’s description when we get keys to our own units leh!! Da…da.. surprise, surprise ya!!
Comment by Neighbour — February 15, 2008 @ 10:30 am
Not only did I love the unit, but also crossed the road to Solaris and had lunch at one of the mamak restaurants….excellent! So convenient.
Comment by connie — February 15, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
KLCC more dense than MK Boogeyman? have you had your eyes checked lately?
Comment by onephatcow — February 17, 2008 @ 9:28 pm
I have had my eyes checked recently and found out my eyes have some serious problem.
KLCC is quite deserted, MK is extremely densed.
Is that the answer you’ve been looking for?
Cheers!!!
Comment by boogeyman — February 18, 2008 @ 12:36 pm
any one receive VP letter?
Comment by Tony — February 22, 2008 @ 7:12 am
anyone of you guys plan to move in early? i will like to move in as soon as my renovation is ready but i am worried that it may b too quiet!
Comment by alex — February 22, 2008 @ 1:46 pm
VP on March 1
Comment by Tony — February 22, 2008 @ 7:22 pm
I will move in by end of March.
Comment by boogeyman — February 22, 2008 @ 9:13 pm
i sneak in to my unit… actually ireka not so bad, workmanship is better than my sunrise unit. quality of finishes is much better than other at this price i pay.. the pool deck is huge supprisingly, thought that the block is close to each other… the sculpture bit tiny.. any way is i don’t shout on that.. wait for SENI Sculpture garden.
i love it so much.. will be moving in in jun.. let my id finish the design..
Comment by Tony — February 24, 2008 @ 11:12 am
Interested in purchasing any 2 units side by side…Any one who has possession of 2 units and wants to sell???
Comment by arpan — February 24, 2008 @ 2:40 pm
Boogeyman - perfect eyesight but wearing rose-tinted sunglasses?
By the time ALL MK or KLCC projects are onstream both are going to suffer from density issues. I was just calling you out on your obvious bias as I had suspected you had a vested interest in KV. Well point proven more or less.
Comment by onephatcow — February 25, 2008 @ 12:18 pm
I dont move in but want to sell or rent.
Comment by Tony — February 25, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
Fatcow, you can say that because your Dua Residence is tenanted and your entry cost was much lower compare to the current pricing. Have you sold your Idamansara? For 4 Million?
Let’s wait and see what is the occupancy rate of KLCC condos by 2009 or 2010, maybe owners will be contented with rental yield of 3 or 4%.
Yes both KLCC and MK will be suffering from over supply, my opinion is that MK’s entry cost is lower hence possible damage will be smaller compare to those who paid few millions for Avare, Troika, One KL, Oval, Hampshire, 231 TR, Park 7, Stonor series, Idaman Residence, Cendana, Binjai, Marc Residence, My Habitat + completed condos, etc.
If one must choose either MK or KLCC, I think MK is a safer bet.
Comment by boogeyman — February 25, 2008 @ 10:49 pm
i own a seni unit and def in the camp of over supply - however market dynamics may change by then - bottom line is we need more expats to live in these large appartments - more ties with the middle east seem a potential source….in my situation the aim is to pay off a large chunk of the mortgage just b4 its built and interest payments are due - im a big believer in the longer term prospects of asian property - esp in Malaysia - lots of positives (appreciating currency, CGT abolition, EPF withdrawal, not yet had a property boom, cheap per sq ft compared to rest of asia…)
Comment by paulopaulo — February 26, 2008 @ 4:01 pm
boogeyman - MK’s entry costs for the projects currently not at handover (as in future ones) are approaching last year’s KLCC pricing is it not? That’s a bit insane IMO. People who are buying into KLCC at 1k and above PSF are really going to cry if they are holding on for long term. Much like MK. MK however has yet to fully build on all available land, whereas KLCC is relatively scarce. KLCC will hit a limit IMO, when MK won’t. As of 2 years ago, MK still had well over 88 acres of land gazetted for high density development.
That’s the standpoint I come from when I say MK is hardly any better in terms of density vs. KLCC
Comment by onephatcow — February 26, 2008 @ 6:19 pm
MK reaching 1k per sq ft…that would be nice. The supply currently on the market will need to be digested - which i dont think will happen for 4/5 yrs. Alot of projects come online 2008 and 2009, less so in 2010.
Comment by paulopaulo — February 27, 2008 @ 6:38 pm
Anyone received their keys?
Comment by boogeyman — March 13, 2008 @ 1:04 am
seni prop val since March 07 up 10% cap appreciation
Comment by paulopaulo — March 17, 2008 @ 1:48 pm
i have received my keys. got quite a number of defects to rectify but lucky not very serious defects
Comment by alex — March 23, 2008 @ 11:39 pm
Which property does not have defect? As long as Binaderas rectify them I am alright.
Alex, How is the workmanship? Quality?
Comment by boogeyman — March 24, 2008 @ 6:46 pm
Any idea how much is the sub sale price for Kiaraville now?
Comment by Yumi — March 30, 2008 @ 8:23 pm
650psf
Comment by boogeyman — March 31, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
650psf, better units up to 700psf
Comment by kv fan — March 31, 2008 @ 9:31 pm
What would be classified as a better unit?
Comment by connie — March 31, 2008 @ 10:39 pm
willing to let go my unit at 650$ psf 1593sqft unit…Any buyers?
Comment by swade — March 31, 2008 @ 11:17 pm
Better unit…not sure but generally would mean higher floor (>15, depending on the block), away from afternoon sun and unobstructive view, preferably KLCC.
I think far less than 50% have been handed over. So not many agents and prospects have viewed its completed state to make a good judgment call. Therefore the price is not firm yet. But the (small)good news is that those agents that have seen it, all came back with positive remarks. Some with the Wow expression about the interior. As for its landscape, I would say let’s give them a chance. The plant need time to blossom and grow. Yes, they should hv ordered the plant 2 years back but that’s forgiveable to me.
All in all, it is still a very good development.
Comment by kv fan — April 1, 2008 @ 3:53 am
The interior looks very good but there are some minor defects.
Comment by boogeyman — April 1, 2008 @ 3:51 pm
I heard Block B have the most defects
Comment by Tony — April 2, 2008 @ 8:26 am
I think the door sign design look cheap?
Comment by Tony — April 2, 2008 @ 8:29 am
Any recent photo’s?
Comment by Harvey — April 2, 2008 @ 9:30 am
I want to sell my unit - 1871 sqf. facing le grande. Let me know if interested.
Comment by Owner - KV — April 4, 2008 @ 8:54 am
Wat floor and wat price Owner-KV?
Comment by Tony — April 5, 2008 @ 10:27 am
6th floor - 610psft
Comment by Owner - KV — April 5, 2008 @ 5:13 pm
Any actual transactions heard in the market? (not asking price)
Comment by euro — April 23, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
Block B >20/floor transacted 650 psf
Comment by Tony — April 25, 2008 @ 3:47 pm
Block B >20/floor transacted 650 psf ?????
Comment by Tony — April 25, 2008 @ 3:47 pm
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Are you sure… it seems a bit inflated.
This quote is from the “bullish forum”: “Average transacting price for good facing units is about RM590-620 persf, depending on unit type. Non favourable facing ones are transacting at around RM530-550 persf now.”
Comment by euro — May 6, 2008 @ 6:14 pm
I got my keys last week. The finishing is ok to me.
Comment by Tony — May 12, 2008 @ 7:59 am
Looking for kiaraville type E or F.
Comment by lhg — June 13, 2008 @ 1:10 am
Looking to sell my 1593 sqft unit mid floor at Kiaraville…priced at market value. Also have a 1600sqft unit at Kiaramas Ayuria v high floor for sale. E-mail me at zen_experience@yahoo.com.sg for details if interested.
Comment by swade — June 15, 2008 @ 8:21 pm
Looking to sell Kiaraville unit, Block C, type D1, 1850 sq ft facing solaris. email robconb@excite.com
XXXthanks
Comment by connie — June 18, 2008 @ 12:26 am
I would like to rent out my unit at Block C, facing pool. Please email me at lplim_kiam@hotmail.com
Thanks
Comment by Yumi — July 17, 2008 @ 8:55 pm
Anyone interested in a 1605 sq ft top floor unit in Kiaramas Ayuria, please email me at jl_lcj@yahoo.com
Comment by Ayuria — July 31, 2008 @ 4:28 pm
looking for around 2000sf, top floor with ok view
Comment by vsvsv — August 29, 2008 @ 9:03 pm
Looking to sell Kiaraville unit, Block C, type D1, 1850 sq ft facing solaris- 550 psf
email robconb@gmail.com
Comment by connie — September 6, 2008 @ 4:57 pm
Connie, have you sold your unit?
How is the sales or rental market so far, have tried to rent out mine but not even a single viewing yet.
Comment by Yumi — September 13, 2008 @ 9:22 pm
all gone quiet on these boards….
Comment by paulopaulo — October 21, 2008 @ 5:01 pm
Hi guys,
yes, very quiet on this board.
I’n now living in Dubai and have left the sales to some agents….in vain
Should I be looking into renting it out?
Hope all is well in KL with all the economic downturn.
Comment by connie — October 30, 2008 @ 2:47 am
Total silence in this board since Oct, anybody has any news to update about Kiaraville? Anybody sold or rent out their unit? I sold mine recently. Thank goodness!
Comment by yumi — February 28, 2009 @ 9:10 pm
hey Yumi,
I’m happy you sold your unit. I am still trying to sell mine but being overseas it is difficult. If you can let me know what the psf price is and how you managed to sell it, pls email me at ronconb@gmail.com
Comment by connie — March 2, 2009 @ 3:37 am
Sorry Yumi, it’s robconb@gmail.com
Comment by connie — March 3, 2009 @ 2:16 am
Anyone owner of kiaramas cendana who had had BAD experience with the management, particularly the manager?? I would like to find out more!!
Comment by Squirrel — August 11, 2009 @ 2:02 pm
Mr Lam is nice and Ella too
Comment by Neil — August 11, 2009 @ 7:07 pm
Hi I’m interested to buy, smaller units. pls email me. thx.
Comment by Tan — October 26, 2009 @ 11:51 pm