Saujana Residency, Subang Jaya
Looks like the Subang Jaya condo market just got a little more competitive. First came projects like USJ1 Avenue, Tiaraville, SuriaMas (well, ok, that one is in Bandar Sunway), Jana Towers. Then there will be Westend Studios soon.
But for now, the Lion group has launched Saujana Residency in SS16, behind Subang Parade, just a little down the road from Tiaraville and Jana Towers. Since they share the same location as the two other projects, we won’t write too much about it, you can check out our reviews there. But in a nutshell, it is near the KTM Komuter, and all the facilities nearby are quite established like shopping (Carrefour, Subang Parade, Sunway Pyramid), commercial area (SS16, SS15), colleges (Inti, Metropolitan, Sunway, Monash), hospital (SJMC, SMC), golf (KGNS, Glenmarie), and the ilk. As for downside of the location, well, I suppose that the infamous Subang Jaya traffic issue is one of them, expecially coming in and out from the place.
(Location map will be uploaded soon, thanks for being patient. It’s basically right behid Subang Parade. Can’t miss it)
The first thing that struck us about Saujana Residency was that it was mid-rise, with only 20 levels or so in the 2 acre plus plot . Older buildings in the area like Wisma Consplant and Wisma Tractors have a maximum height limitation due to the proximity with Subang Airport, however, we’re not entirely sure if this ruling is the reason why they have chosen the building height.
There are two identical towers, named Suria and Bayu, with the common facilities in the middle and on the side.They have an Olympic-sized swimming pool, covered children’s playground, a fairly large gym, sauna, nursery, hot spa, security and convenience stores. I would say all in all, quite comprehensive, more than the competition.
Another thing we liked was that they took the effort to make the landscaping count, and the facilities have amply spaced, instead of everything cramped together.
Another feature for this place is the wide range of unit sizes. There are small studio units at 585sq.ft (single bedroom), up until 2,535sq.ft exclusive units with your private garden in the sky. There are even penthouses with 5000+sq.ft, but at the time we viewed it, they were already sold out. There is a maximum of 15 units per floor (per tower), but these are mainly on the lower floors.
Two features that stand out for this place is the lanai concept (for some units), quite popular these days. It’s like a balcony only that its enclosed with large windows. Another is the long bath extruding out of the unit, sort of like a balcony, too (and it’s enclosed, too,it is after all a bath). So you can have a soak while looking out at the scenery. We’re not used to long baths, seeing that we’re from the kampung…
Studio units seem pretty popular in new launches in this vicinity, probably targeting the investors. Then they have some 1+1 and 2 bedroom (740, 753 and 742sq.ft) units, shaped almost like a right-angled triangle (not our cup of tea, frankly). The larger units are more conventionally rectangle-ish, going up to 3+1+1 (the study can be converted into a guest).
We liked types G & H, which at 1,360sq.ft and 3+1, it is rightly sized (well, this is, of course, speaking in terms of layout only). Of course the larger units are luxuriously spaced, which mean bigger and more rooms and spaces.
Each unit comes with one parking bay, those above 1700sq.ft. come with twin bay. Please check with developer on parking arrangements.
So what did we like about here? The design of the overall building, with its symmetrical tapering towers. Low density, (due to the low height), above average facilities, good location for student and yuppie rental market. Dislikes? Like we said, traffic congestion and pricing a little steep, commercial title.
The Lion Group is very familiar with us, we have dealt with them extensively in the past. They were quite diversified in the mid 90’s but due to the Asian financial crisis, they have gone through some restructuring and streamlining of their core businesses. The leaner Lion group is now keen to move ahead in property, with their existing Bukit Mahkota, and another new launch in KL this weekend.
*** UPDATE OCTOBER 2006: A reader has sent in some photos of the site progress (including some of the nearby Subang Avenue) you can view them here.
| Project Name | Saujana Residency |
| Location | Subang Jaya, Selangor |
| Description | Twin block mid-rise condo development |
| Unit size | 585 to 2,535sq.ft. (duplex penthouses also available, about 5,445sq.ft.) |
| No. of units | About 400 |
| Price | RM170,000 to RM1,473,000 (averaging about RM290psf. ) |
| Type of development | Condo on Commercial Title on freehold land |
| Launch Date | now available |
| Expected Completion | mid 2009 |
| Developer | Saujana Heights Sdn. Bhd. (subsidiary of Lion Group) |
| Managed By | Narajaya Sdn. Bhd. |
| Land Encumbrances | AmBank |
| Contact | 03 – 5636 8599 |
| Website | www.lion.com.my (corporate website, property page not updated) |
Actually right, going through the jam at Saujana area is better than the 30 minutes jam trying to exit from USJ =) By staying there, you immediately save about probably erm…20 minutes? I’ll probably drop by next week. Heh. I like the place because it’s not that big and all..as in..not many units..
Comment by S-Kay — December 27, 2005 @ 1:16 pm
Ahh..its too expensive man….not worth it..
Comment by luke — January 2, 2006 @ 5:23 pm
How is this project going? Are the units all sold out? Anyone bought a unit, please provide some feedback.
Comment by Cobra — April 2, 2006 @ 11:16 pm
Quite interesting features especially the cantilevered bath with glass looking outside. Just wondering if I’m taking shower at Bayu (Type 6)the same level at Suria can see me?!!
I think sales is approx. 80% & I believe is a good buy due to location and also suitable for family. Maybe those buyers can give some comments why they commit.
Comment by Looking Around — May 17, 2006 @ 11:33 am
I don’t think anyone at the same level in Suria can see you having a nice bath in Bayu because there is some distance between the 2 towers - the distance will be a full length swimming pool, the 2 pool decks and a bit more space at the ends. Maybe, through a binoculars, one could see you soaping yourself.
I think it is a good buy too - as you said, the location, and it has a generous and spacious land area (2 acres). Also, it is close to the KTM station, Subang Parade and Carrefour supermarket. What else do you need? - maybe some traffic jams.
Comment by Cobra — May 23, 2006 @ 3:09 am
Cobra : Bought the J unit (3+1+1). Apparently, the construction will start somewhere in June. Not too sure about the current take up rate though coz didn’t bother updating ourselves yet. Heh. As for the “I can see you bathing” problem, there’s always blinds to begin with =)
There will definitely be traffic but not until that teruk lah. The only problem that is of concern is whether people will end up parking at roadsides like the ones at Damansara Perdana.
Comment by S-Kay — June 1, 2006 @ 3:54 pm
Thanks for your thoughts, S-Kay. I agree with you, there is no bathroom problem. I also share your concern about parking at roadsides (only time will tell). Can I ask you, S-Kay, your reasons for buying in Saujana rather than any other? The layout of Type J (from the brochure) looks really nice, I wonder how much it cost?
Comment by Cobra — June 2, 2006 @ 3:15 am
Also bought the J type (3+1+1)at Suria block. Was at the site office on June 01, and being told that the earth works will start in June 2006.But see no apparent actions. Things could have moved quicker. The sales lady at the site office told me the take up rate is 70% ??
Notices that the Federal Highway traffic noise is vividly audible inside the living room ( J type show unit )even after closing the glass door partitioning the lanai.I used to live in Hong Kong (6 years) which have the same problem that takes a long time to get use to ! Is there a Malaysia law controlling the noise level?
Overall , I still like the location and the layout/design.
Hope the roadside parking which is a common plight in many condos will not be the evil that distract buyers !
That was some flyover construction a short distant away. Will this help to ease the traffic congestion during the peak hours ??
Comment by Viking — June 8, 2006 @ 12:33 am
Viking : Which floor? We bought at the same block also! Haha. I saw some trees being cleared up already though. And I think the ones in the innerside won’t suffer the noises.
As for the flyover by AZRB..its an option for those exiting the NKVE. So most probably it’ll ease the horrible jam we see at Old KFC entrance point.
Cobra : It’s RM515, xxx (forgot the exact figure). Reasons :
1) We love Subang. Currently living in USJ, we were both raised here and its something we’re used to already. Our parents live nearby (in fact in the same housing area) so it’s convenient for us should we need them.
2) The schools here are well established adi with the one at our area being the best school in Subang, it’ll be easier to get our kids into that school and they can hop over to either one of our parents’ house after school before we pick them up from work. Transportation and all that won’t be a problem for them coz it’s about 3 mins walk from both homes.
3) We wanted to get landed property but most are located too far away at places that were quite inconvenient to us. So we started searching for apartments instead. Had a look at D’sara Perdana, USJ OneAvenue and loads of others but we didn’t like most of it coz either the population there’s too dense for our liking or the concept is good but the location is horrible. Tiaraville and Jana weren’t that attractive. Too dense. Saujana on the other hand was just nice. And the designs were great. Space just nice. It was love at first sight to be honest. We’re very fussy people =P Initially, we wanted to get the Type I unit but the living room was oddly positioned so it was a turn off.
4) Shopping mall, KTM, hypermarket and all are located nearby. Very convenient for us. Oh, and I forgot to mention that we also didn’t choose Tiara coz it’s located too near the “mini” power station.
5) Not much traffic problems coz there won’t be crawls towards NPE from Saujana coz the jam is usually on the opposite side and if we wanted to use the NKVE, we would’ve cut through the major jams at USJ2 and ss19 area. But then again, with Tiaraville and Jana at the same area…traffic might be a problem but i guess it won’t be as bad as the ones in USJ
Comment by S-Kay — June 8, 2006 @ 1:36 pm
*escaped major jams at USJ2 and ss19 =) not cut through
Comment by S-Kay — June 8, 2006 @ 1:39 pm
Our unit is on 13th floor(suria Block ) nearest to the Federal Highway .The noise level could be the concern .I was living on 45th Floor in Hong Kong 1 KM away from the expressway and still have the noise level affecting us when the sport cars/ motors are racing after mid-night.
We have just retired , thus traffic congestion may not be a concern. However , our grown up daughters and son may face the problem if they stay with us .
With Tiaraville , the roadside parking will be a serious concern after both projects are living in.Suggest the developers should jointly build a multi-level car park to provide better facility and also gives the projects more approachable from both directions. Otherwise the roadside parkings will be the worst evil that we have to fight .
When we have friends stopping by to visit or we have more than two cars , this will compound the issue.
Comment by Viking — June 8, 2006 @ 10:27 pm
10th Floor facing the pool so it’s further away from the Federal. Heh. But I think the Federal is VERY quiet at night. So far, not that many motor races going on lately.
If I’m not mistaken, Saujana has allocated lots in the compound for visitors right?
Comment by S-Kay — June 9, 2006 @ 11:56 am
Noise level will be an issue but may be able to get use to after some initial hard times. However , the roadside parkings will definitely be major concern. If you take a closer look at the Taman Desa areas where the concentrations of condos are heavy , one will see double parkings/curb side parkings causing massive blockage to smooth flow of traffic . With Tiaraville, Jana, and Saujana on the same side /area, we will defintely see the woe very frequently .The visitors car parks will be insufficient as it will use for regular condo dwellers. If some families have more than 2 cars (some may have up to five cars - parents +children etc ), there will not be sufficient parking facilities . In anyway , these parking woes happen in USJ/ Subang currently . Therefore , it may be Ok for many people.Wonders when can the earth works start especially with the current rainny season.
Will be away overseas for 2 months starting Sunday , thus will not be able to participate in the blog. Thanks
Comment by Viking — June 9, 2006 @ 11:52 pm
What could be the possible capital appreciation of the Saujana project .Was told that it is the last parcel of land in that location.Will the KTM station be upgraded to handle more human traffic volume ? Thinks more people will take the KTM /LRT when the services are good !Experiencing very bad services from KTM. The last time I took was June 01, 2006. It was not on schedule !Since there are some many condos in the same areas, the authority should review the transport services .
May be the developers should gang up to do something good. This will speak well for their records on being a good corporate citizen.Everyone talks about the location-location-location.Therefore can the whole stretch of road become a very nice boulevard with nice greeneries and flowers ?? Or it is just a wishful thinking. Thanks
Comment by Viking — June 10, 2006 @ 11:30 am
S-Kay : The reasons you gave are more than enough ammunition to grab a unit at Saujana. In fact, “the love at first sight” reason is valid enough to home in. It is always like that, you can go on looking for properties, then all of a sudden some property somewhere will grab you by the collar. Compared to other condos, I think, the design of Saujana Residency is a “beautiful piece of work” and with the water themed landscape, it will further enhance the beauty of the Residency.
Viking : The Monorail people have sent in a proposal to extend the monorail from KL Sentral (Brickfields) to Subang Jaya.
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/4/15/nation/13967752&sec=nation
If approved, this would hopefully ease the problems you are experiencing at the KTM station in Subang Jaya.
Comment by Cobra — June 10, 2006 @ 7:35 pm
How on earth are they gonna extend it to Subang from KL huh? And why wouldn’t they extend the Putra LRT to Subang coz it’s much nearer that way. Putra is so much more efficient coz it’s not manhandled.
Comment by S-Kay — June 12, 2006 @ 11:07 am
Anybody out there ever experience the purchase of a new condo project from the ground zero? Am just wondering the delay us normal and whether this project is ever going to take off and what are the effects if it does not.
Comment by David L — June 20, 2006 @ 11:51 am
As long as they complete it within 3 years. Until then, all we can do is wait =)
Comment by S-Kay — June 23, 2006 @ 1:37 pm
S-Kay : There is a map in the thestar.com.my link which I gave in my previous thread - that’s how they are proposing to extend the monorail from KL to Subang. I agree with you that the Putra LRT is a better option.
Anyone knows what is happening at “ground zero”? - are there any activity taking place at the site?
Comment by Cobra — July 2, 2006 @ 2:05 pm
There is a recent article on Subang condos including Saujana Residency at the link below :
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/7/3/business/14684734&sec=business
Comment by Cobra — July 10, 2006 @ 8:12 pm
The Tiaraville side is so freaking congested. Thank goodness Saujan is further down
Comment by S-Kay — July 14, 2006 @ 2:14 pm
Any one passed the site recently and care to update us? My last visit was towards end June but nothing much to show although their marketing people said that work would commence in June.
Comment by David L — July 20, 2006 @ 12:25 pm
Here’s one that I heard from the BF’s father…it will only start end of the year. I’m beginning to wonder, are they waiting for Tiaraville to complete theirs before they begin construction?
Comment by S-Kay — July 24, 2006 @ 3:29 pm
Does anyone have the layouts of the units online?
Comment by Anon — July 30, 2006 @ 11:10 pm
Is there any latest update on the progress of ground works !I took a unit just because the developer is Lion Group! If they continue to delay ,it will not look good on Lion Group.Is Lion Group’s property division having a watchful eye on the comments that the buyers and potential buyers are giving ?
There are one too many condos/apartments on this strip of road. Unless, there is an improvement on the road ,foresee there will be heavy traffic congestion during peak hours !
Looks like we are in for a serious trouble or headache !
Comment by Viking — July 31, 2006 @ 1:56 am
Just a little update here. I went down to the showroom last week. They told me that 75% of the units were taken up and that they will be hoarding up the site in August and construction will then begin. A few days later I saw a forklift uprooting a tree. There is some movement but at a snail pace.
Comment by Cobra — August 7, 2006 @ 11:09 pm
Oh…i saw part of the land being cleared already and they have already began to clear the entrance side as well (board being taken down already).
Comment by S-Kay — August 12, 2006 @ 10:01 pm
Can anyone please explain the significants of “commercial tittle”.
Thank you.
Comment by nike — September 20, 2006 @ 7:17 pm
nike,
in terms of land matters, between residential and commercial titles, there is a WORLD of difference, and it would take a long time to go into details.
But to most people, the key difference is that commercial condo owners pay higher utility bills.
Comment by Administrator — September 20, 2006 @ 9:37 pm
Thanks 4 the info.
Would help to know what sort of money we are talking about. I mean maybe in terms of percentage differential.
BTW the work on site seems to be speeding up.
Thanks again
Comment by nike — September 21, 2006 @ 9:29 am
Can anyone provides the latest progress of the construction?
Does anyone knows what percentage of the units have been sold?
Comment by Viking — October 8, 2006 @ 12:31 am
viking,
you’re in luck. a buyer just sent me some recent photos of the site progress, will be posting it up a day a two. keep an eye for it in the latest posts.
Comment by Administrator — October 8, 2006 @ 5:09 pm
Thanks for the information ! With the increase in cost of building materials , hope the developer will speed up the completion very much sooner ! Awaiting your photos posting in this blog !
Comment by Viking — October 8, 2006 @ 11:28 pm
Bought one unit in November, 2006. Looked deserted at the building site that afternoon but suddenly, we saw a crane hoisting a piece of rope up into the air! Couldn’t figure it out why they did it or maybe just to show us that there were people working at the site! Joke aside, do you people have to pay $300 for disbursements by their lawyers? I thought signing the S & P was FREE. The developers should pay everything as far as S & P is concerned as they advertised Free S & P.
Comment by Richard — November 24, 2006 @ 3:40 am
Thanks for your comments, Richard. I paid RM300 as well. I read the Offer Document again, the Legal Fees are free but we had to pay for Stamp Duty, Printing Costs & other disbursements.
Comment by Cobra — November 25, 2006 @ 6:38 pm
Great! Has the piling started yet? Anyone has more photos?
Comment by Richard — November 26, 2006 @ 12:18 am
My family and I paid a visit to the site office on Friday (Nov.24)! The office lady attending to us assured me that the project will be on time . The next payment may be around January 2007.I did see some workers on the crane but did not feel the excitement of a busy project . A high percentage of units have been taken up as per the display chart ( Could be up to near 90%) . There will be new design for the odd shape units that did not attract great sales . Anyone interested should pay a visit to the site sales office .
Comment by Viking — November 26, 2006 @ 1:12 am
Read the Blog somewhere that Tiaraville has been converted to Residential Title from Commercial .Can anyone confirm it ?
Can we push for the same to our Saujana Residency ? Is Lion Group doing the application ? It will be good for them to do so quickly if have not done so !?? If not we have to push for action !
Comment by Viking — December 3, 2006 @ 11:46 pm
Would be good if the land could be converted from commercial to residential title. Certainly would help them sell off the last of the units. Saw some new machines on the site today (pass by it everyday). Guess the next payment request will be coming soon.
Comment by KC — December 6, 2006 @ 10:41 am
I am sure someone from Lion Group is monitoring this BLOG.
May we request Lion Group to start the proceeding to convert
to Residential from Commercial Title !
Lion Group should accelerate the construction to save costs and gain better reputation.
Comment by Viking — December 6, 2006 @ 11:17 pm
Maybe open up a seperate forum for those who have purchased units there, as we may one day end up as neighbours..=D Then we can pin a request there to Lion Group asking them to convert the title to Residential Title.
Comment by KC — December 7, 2006 @ 3:18 pm
I know for a fact that the staff of Lion Group do read this blog. You see, the sales people at the Saujana showroom are employees of Lion Group. When I visited them the last time, I suggested to the saleperson that Lion Group should open up a Saujana page in their website so that those who purchased units or prospective buyers can communicate with them and vice versa. The salesperson then told me that I should read this blog and stated that the articles in this blog are “very interesting” (the saleperson’s own words). So Lion Group do read this blog but whether they actually take notice of the excellent comments & suggesstions made by you guys is questionable.
Comment by Cobra — December 15, 2006 @ 6:48 am
This Blog does not attract high traffic flow . Wonders why ?
If Lion group is monitoring this blog,hope they will take some positive actions !
There must be more than 6 high-rise condos projects in the same road.As I have suggested before ,if we can get all developers to work together with MPPJ to make this strip a nice and green boulavard, our properties value could be pushed up. If the KTM station is also upgraded and beautified, the whole area will look good . We are talking about Locations,Locations, Locations in properties buying selection criteria. Making the locations looks high end (after all, it is only a short strip of road -may be 3 kilometers at max.)will benefit the property owners, retailers, developers and also MPPJ. Everyone wins .
Could Lion Group atke some efforts to put this proposal to the other developers and MPPJ ? Love to see the entire strip just like Singapore’s Orchard Road !
Some Blogs say that Lion Group’s subsidiaries have some block bulk purchases to push the sales up ??
Comment by Viking — December 15, 2006 @ 12:57 pm
Viking it’s MPSJ, not MPPJ. The idea is good, I’m sure all the buyers will agree. If you really want to push for it, you’ll need to get all the developers here to appoint an landscape consultant or architect to come out with a proposal, get all parties to agree on the cost (which will NOT be easy) and make a proper submission to MPSJ, wait for their approval, etc…
It’s a long and difficult process, most times it gets stuck at the ‘money’ part.
(also, I disagree that this isn’t a high traffic. We get almost 2000 hits a day, which is high for any kind of blog. You can check the site meter. Of course you can’t compare with corporate websites).
Comment by Administrator — December 15, 2006 @ 2:42 pm
Admin what I mean is the Saujana Residency Project’s segment. Sorry for the mis-representation !Sierra Residency attracts some 210 comments thus far, a project which was launched much later .Or is Saujana Residency does not appeal to the public, thus less interested parties to air their views ? Is Lion Group too busy on other projects that they do not pay special attention ?
Well for the Boulevard , the developers have to review what are best for them . MPSJ must be proactive to make Subang Jaya the place for property hunters.Therefore this strip of road give them the chance to demonstrate that MPSJ cares and is forward looking . A serene environment will attract more interest to Subang Jaya .There must be some monthly or quarterly meeting of the developers association where they share common problems and solutions .This is a good platform for them to do something together to compete with other locations !
Wonders what will Saujana Residency turns out to be ? I used to stay 6 years in Hong Kong’s Discovery Park in Tseunwan which has twelve blocks of 45 storey each(4300 units) with a very large ,cool and serene garden in the air on top (4th Floor )of the commercial shopping center where the 12 blocks sit on top which give the place a fantastic
envornment. I spent most of my week ends and evenings enjoying the garden. I have yet to see a project in Malaysia that match Discovery Park in Tseunwan ,Hong Kong .
Comment by Viking — December 15, 2006 @ 11:01 pm
The reason obviously is the price.
Saujana is more up market compared to Sierra.
Comment by nike — December 16, 2006 @ 8:53 am
nike , may not be ! Please see Kiaraville and other Mont Kiara projects,which are higher end than Saujana Residency. They attracted much more comments !The Saujana Residency buyers or potential buyers may have to be more active .Lion Group should also show some excitement to create some heavier traffic flow ! I do a lot of Blog readings/research before choosing a project or location to invest ! Am sure many others do the same ! I used to own a landed property in USJ 3 back in the early 90s, thus have some special feeling for Subang Jaya . Currently I have retired in Malacca after 10+ years overseas.But is coming back to Subang Jaya once the project is completed !
Comment by Viking — December 16, 2006 @ 8:38 pm
You maybe right Viking.
Well the bulk of the postings over Sierra are by the same guys and many talking about loan applications.
Maybe the demographic of buyers play a part too.
Agree with you on the boulavard idea though.
Comment by nike — December 17, 2006 @ 9:54 am
The boulavard idea is great! One more supporter here!=) Maybe send a wish list with signatures to Lion group and hopefully they act on some of them..namely the boulavard and the conversion from commercial to residential..=D
Comment by KC — December 20, 2006 @ 7:07 pm
There are so many new projects launching or in the pipe lines ,if the developer is still not creative to make their property project standout from the crowd, then they will be lose out in the very near future.
Making the project unique and value creation /added will make repeat investments from the current investors . Hope the current property developers in this short strip of road will work together to create a special zone /boulavard that make the investors (condo buyers) happy and the property appreciate fast.
There are plenty of new creative housing projects that attract property buyers, therefore Lion Group should accelerate their project to complete well before end of 2008. The new launches are completing within 18 to 24 months. The longer the completion time , the less exciting or attractive the project is.
MPSJ should be proactive to work with the developers to make this strip of road or any new launches a better attraction for the potential condo/house buyers . USJ / Subang is a mature location and the parcel of land is fast depleting . Therefore, please be more action oriented and get this location become the pride of the township.
Comment by VK — December 22, 2006 @ 11:04 pm
Lately,I read some news articles in ‘The Star’ that there is a proposal to have the extended LRT station near the Subang Jaya KTM station enroute to Sunway Pyramid. Guess it will be right next to our Saujana Project , in front of Tiaraville and behind Carrfour. Will this LRT station be a big plus in helping to appreciate the value of the Condos in this strip or a very negative factor as the LRT rail may be a big spoiler to the aesthetic view of the condos? Especially, if it above the ground level and create more noise polution .The traffic noise from the Federal Highway is already a concern . However , if the LRT and KTM stations are done professionally especially undergorund with heavy consideration on maintaining a serene surrounding , plus the boulavard or green garden enviornment , we will have a fantastic location ! We should not hope for the best but take positive action in helping to realise the dream!
Comment by Viking — December 23, 2006 @ 12:47 am
Rank high on my list of criteria is convenience.
The KTM was a push and the LRT is certainly a bonus.
Comment by nike — December 23, 2006 @ 11:54 am
Actually, if you noticed, you can barely hear the highway from inside the showroom.
And what should be done first would be getting MPSJ to get rid of cars parking by the roadside outside Subang Parade.
Comment by S-Kay — December 28, 2006 @ 12:09 pm
I saw a new framework being constructed just next to the project site. White in color and looks quite tall. Anyone has any idea what’s that? Hope it’s not another apartment/condo project coming up..
Comment by KC — January 3, 2007 @ 11:20 am
If not mistaken, it could be the new condo -Western Studio !
The proposed LRT terminal which is connecting to the KTM terminal will make this location very busy indeed ! Good or bad, it leaves to be seen !
As long as this strip matures into Boulavard ,it will add value to our property .Hope , the developers will cooperate to make this location the pride of their business and MPSJ is playing a positive role to enhance the entire environment ! Could this strip be the Mont Kiara of Subang Jaya ? Good luck to all of us !
Comment by Viking — January 3, 2007 @ 10:22 pm
Erm…will the track be right outside the apartments or somewhere else?
Western Studio? At the exact spot there or somewhere else? It’d be funny to have it there, having a condo exiting right in the middle of a flyover.
Comment by S-Kay — January 4, 2007 @ 1:06 pm
Thinks the Western Studio is just right next to Saujana Residency .Not sure it is the right or left side ? Most probably at the left side looking from Subang Parade .Can Administrator confirm it ? Understand that the LRT will terminate at around Sunway Pyramid after going around 3-4 more stops in Subang Jaya / USJ . The Subang Terminal is proposed to be behind Carrefour and Tiaraville right next to KTM terminal to make the connection more convenient for the travellers . Hope the track and Terminal are underground or the hanging track will de-face the entire area.
Comment by Viking — January 4, 2007 @ 11:11 pm
Western Studio could be at the left side of Saujana Project looking from Subang Parade ! The sales person once told me that some buyers are worry that the new project will block
their view at Suria Block facing Shah Alam.The LRT Termial is said to be behind Carrefour / Tiaraville making convenient connections for KTM/LRT travellers .The proposal says owing to sufficient paking spaces meet the requirements . Hope the track and terminal will go underground which make more sense as this location is already run out of space to eract above ground level track. Understand this new extended line will eventually terminate at around Sunway Pyramid after a further 3-4 stops from Subang Station.
Comment by Viking — January 4, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
The lady at the showhouse/sales office just told me “western studio” is a 3 in 1 project. That’s to say it comprises hotel suites, commercial and residential apartments all in one.
Comment by nike — January 6, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
Nike, Did she say the location of Western Studio - whether it is on the left or right side of Saujana looking from Subang Parade?
Comment by Cobra — January 7, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
left, looking from subang parade. suria side
Comment by nike — January 7, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
Actually I’m starting to be really concerned about the traffic in that area and what it would be like once all these projects are built up. Illegal parking is also rampant in the area in front of Wisma Consplant effectively turning the road into a 2 lane road. Kinda curious if there are any plans in place to address this potential issue?
Comment by KC — January 8, 2007 @ 10:45 am
3 in 1? Very interesting.
As for the illegal parking. One they we’ll see whether they would rather pay RM2 per entry or a huge fine to get their cars back from the tunda area. I’m sure MPSJ folks would love to clamp those cars if there are complaints.
Comment by S-Kay — January 8, 2007 @ 11:18 am
Visited Saujana Site office on 10/01/97. The earthworks are progressing .The next payment will be due before coming Chinese Lunar New Year as per the sales ladies .
While I was at the “J”type show unit, there were two KTM commuter trains passing each other . The noise is very audible at the Lanai and very noisy at the Maid’s room . If the LRT tracks are built alongside the KTM dual tracks, this will be unbearable for the lower units . The noise level deflected to upper units may also be serious.
Looks at the proposed LRT terminal , there is sufficient spaces for the LRT/KTM travellers to park the cars if there is a multi-level car park say 6-10 levels on the location. This could also serve those Condos dwellers who have extra cars and their visitors so as other commercial complexes users . The Multi-level car park could be privatised as this could be a viable business project.This should be the better way to solve the illegal parking . Since there are at least six projects crowd along this strip, it will easy to convert the strip to beautiful serene boulavard as the developers just need to ensure thier frontage design are the best leaving very small area for the MPSJ to beautify or even they themselves (developers) can work together to get the boulavard done with some additional costs which is good for their corporate images .
Comment by Viking — January 11, 2007 @ 12:13 pm
I guess the ones who bought the lower units or the units nearer to the KTM tracks are probably more tolerant and less sensitive towards the noise level there and I’m sure that they have considered such “noise pollution” before making a purchase decision. If one were to be extremely worried about it, I don’t think it was a wise decision to even get that particular unit, just because. It would not be a good thing to see owners of the lower units complain to the developers when the decision was ultimately theirs to make.
That aside, it would definitely be great if MPSJ and the developer themselves would make an effort to beautify the area but to me, as owners of the apartment..one shouldn’t just sit and watch but must also make an active effort on our side to make it work too.
Comment by S-Kay — January 11, 2007 @ 3:58 pm
…and another thing, I doubt with the multi-level carpark, ppl would stop parking illegally. It’s not like the carpark in Subang Parade is full. Some ppl…
Comment by S-Kay — January 11, 2007 @ 4:04 pm
you know malaysians la, they rather risk car kena bang or saman rather than pay RM1 or RM2 for parking.
Comment by Administrator — January 12, 2007 @ 10:39 am
Please someone advise me if is there any available unit. Of cors not the one cost 1ML. Averange 300K-400K units.
Comment by Kheizlina — January 19, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
Kheizlina there must be some units of Type I (1517 Sq ft ) and H ( Suria -13-05 unit-1360 sq Ft)around . The price should be 390-450K per unit. May be there are smaller unit costing 250-350K. Good luck !
I was told by the sales lady that the take-up rate is about 75 % thus far .Wonders why they have not sold all the units.
Comment by Viking — January 20, 2007 @ 11:26 pm
Just for your view :-
Link to a map of the proposed LRT and monorail >>>>>
http://’skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=8048072&postcount=342
Comment by Viking — January 24, 2007 @ 12:26 am
any comment on subang avenue?
Comment by may — January 26, 2007 @ 11:56 pm
nope.
Comment by Administrator — January 27, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Saw some sign directions on “First Office Suite” at the same strip of road . Didn’t have a chance to turn into the strip , thus does not the exact spot .The area is looking crowded with so many projects now !Admin: any update on the exact number of projects now and in the future ?
Comment by Viking — January 27, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
strictly speaking, there’s no restriction to the number of condos or offices, as long as there is land available. Just look at what Mont’Kiara has become.
Comment by Administrator — January 28, 2007 @ 12:13 am
First Office Suite is under Tiaraville, no? I think they’re located in Tiara itself coz of the huge banner hanging from the completed Tiaraville.
Comment by S-Kay — January 31, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
Hi Administrator, I am looking for an apartment for investment in Subang Jaya. Is Subang Avenue is a good choice (RM 330k for 1030sq ft)? How much will be the rental? Interested Saujana Regency (around RM 300k for +/-1000sq ft) but sold out. Pl advise.
Comment by may — February 4, 2007 @ 12:10 am
sorry is Saujana Residency not Regency.
Comment by may — February 4, 2007 @ 12:13 am
May,
There is a new project- Empire Subang right next to Saujana Residency about to be launched very soon. Please check out the pricing .You can look at Tiaraville ( secondary Market )or UJS 1 Avenue in USJ 1. I was there in USJ1 last week end . I like the project being half way through it should be save. But it is leasehold property. Jana Towers is also relaunching their project . But the developers have changed hand and this may be a problem for the credibility .
Comment by Viking — February 6, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
May, between all the ones mentioned here, i still like Saujana Residency the best.
Comment by Administrator — February 8, 2007 @ 11:33 pm
Hi Everybody,
I’m a bit surprised that nobody speak about Subang avenue (between Carrefour and e-tiara). There is still quite a number of available units. Is it a bad investment due to the shopping complex under? why? Looking forward to read your enlightenment !!!! Cheers !
Comment by max — February 10, 2007 @ 2:28 pm
Adminstrator,
Can you please do a review on the “Empire Subang” project right next to Saujana Residency. I saw the Billboard which shows some very nice & modern blocks that really complement the Saujana Residency in my view.The two projects could really impress people complementing each other making the strip a good location for investment .
Also can we have a review on Subang Avenue as I do not see that in the blogsome.Even though I have bought a unit (3+1+1)J type in Saujana Residency but the handover is mid 2009, I am still looking for a unit that around RM250K and can be hand over by 2007 end or early 2008.
Comment by Viking — February 11, 2007 @ 1:30 am
The hotel suite concept is odd (Empire Subang) and their talk on profit returns when you lease it back to them is close to ridiculous. I hope the project won’t turn out to be like Jana Towers considering that this is the first time this family is taking on such ambitious project.
Comment by S-Kay — February 12, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
Just received notice for 2nd progress payment this afternoon. BTW my unit is on Bayu.
In case some may like to know.
Comment by nike — February 12, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
nike : Should it be the first progress payment ? The first payment being the downpayment ? I was told that Suria units (my unit) will have to pay after the Lunar New Year.
Comment by Viking — February 12, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
Viking, it’s the 2nd 10% after piling is completed.
Yes, you are right. Piling work progresses from Bayu to Suria.
After CNY for you should be it.
Comment by nike — February 13, 2007 @ 8:45 am
I just called the developer and they mentioned around March till end March that they will request for payment for Suria.
Comment by KC — February 14, 2007 @ 2:04 pm
Any Suria unit purchaser got his/her progress payment request letter yet?
Comment by Cobra — March 6, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
I am Suria Purchaser. Yet to receive any notice for payment!
Comment by Viking — March 6, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
Thanks, Viking.
Comment by Cobra — March 11, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
I would like to buy a spot. But it’s too expensive. My budget is 5k per year.
Comment by Lovela — March 14, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
Hello everybody
I hv bought Tiaraville unit in Blk B. Its all good news, espeically the new LRT terminal being considered in front of Tiaraville and Saujana. Its a sure winner for everyone who has invested in this area. The boulevard idea is smashing! It can make the area the focal point. In terms of value and prestige, which condo along this strip would rank the highest according to your views? Appreciate ur opinions. Thnks.
By the way any of you folks have updates on Tiaraville’s progress? Tiaraville site is really inactive! Thanks a bunch
Comment by Liz — March 15, 2007 @ 3:24 am
Just call the Credit Admin. Department . Ms. Melissa informed me that the billing for the Suria block will come this end March or early April. Read some news articles that the current steel shortages have hurt the developers / construction companies with high costs .Our steel prices in Grey market is 20% more expensive that Singapore.
Thus some may delay the projects to avoid the cost impact.Hope everything is fine with the building scheldue that have been committed on our project .
Comment by VK — March 19, 2007 @ 11:32 am
Has yet to receive the notification letter for the next 10% progress payment for Suria Block.Is the delay caused by the current steel supply and cost constrain ? There is an article in Star on the predicament of the construction industries due to steel shortage ! Hope Lion Group being in the steel industries , Saujana Residency will not be affected by this situation.
Comment by Viking — April 6, 2007 @ 12:30 am
I am interested in the 3+1+1 unit. But all sold out and was offerred the 3+1. Anyone letting go the 3+1+1? I am very interested to buy.
Comment by fazilah — April 8, 2007 @ 9:31 am
Have you guys read the article in the following website (The Star)? What are your comments? Or are they old news?
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/4/11/central/17350811&sec=central
Comment by Cobra — April 13, 2007 @ 2:36 am
The article indicates there will be a RM 8 Million 1.5KM Subang Jaya Boulevard which is what we have suggested / discussed in this blog . This is a dream come through for all of us .Good job MPSJ!! I beleive this entire 1.5 KM strip together with the KTM and LRT stations , also the Subang Jaya Kelana link will help to appreciate the value of the properties fast . Hope this will rival the Mont Kiara.I feel good about it . However we do need to worry about the traffic congestion after all the projects are completed . Oh Yes , hope there are no abandon project in this strip ???
Comment by Viking — April 13, 2007 @ 10:22 pm
Another issue we have to face is the noise pollution from the Federal Highway traffic . Also there will be dust from the heavy traffic that enters all the condos units( no matter if they are not facing the highway ) even if you have all the windows / doors closed as there are still holes / gaps that allow the dust in (esp. Kitchen areas ) . I have experienced it ! Does Malaysia Government has a noise level limit / control ? Has any local authorities or property developers taken the noise level tests ? Do this location need Sound barrier especially along the dual tracks KTM and LRT ? Will LRT runs along the KTM tracks or on an elevated track? If it is, then we will have bigger monster in our hands. Suggests the local council should start the planting of tall and bushy trees along both sides of KTM commuter tracks which will at least the absorb some noise and dust { Need to be done in addition to sound barrier } ! This will also make this section of Federal Highway a beautiful landscaped motorway.
Comment by Viking — April 13, 2007 @ 10:44 pm
Wonders is Subang Jaya assemblyman Datuk Lee Hwa Beng or his assistants surf in this blog ? How do we get across to him of what one can propose to make this Subang Jaya Boulevard and the highrises ‘the’ place for investors and condo proud owners !?
Comment by Viking — April 16, 2007 @ 12:20 am
Viking,
Just curious…haven’t you at least considered the possible problems that might be faced before purchasing the unit in Saujana? Coz it seems like you forgot to take into consideration all that you mentioned and only now you’re starting to worry that you may experience what you experienced in HK
Comment by S-Kay — April 18, 2007 @ 10:42 pm
When I purchase the unit ,I consider it as investment and for rental purpose . After looking around , I realized that Saujana Residency has the most convenient location and have many amenities in comparing to many other better known or even MK projects . Thus , I consider to stay in. In Hong Kong most of the Highrises face the same situation and people o choice but get use to it . But HK residents can appeal to government to improve the living environment and the efficient HK government is very reasonable in improving them. All that I suggest will at least help to reduce the negative impact as much as possible . We should start the ball rolling rather that wait till after 2009 .The dream boulevard is possibly coming through and I am sure if we start to work on the improvement need, we will at least have a head start .Believe this strip of 1.5 KM should be a model for MPSJ to improve the enitre Subang Jaya / USJ to make it more liveble for residents.I prefer to start dealing with the situation now ! I am still looking for another condo in and around PJ / KL with similar amenities minus the negative points . So far could not find one yet around the same price . Currently living in Malacca and thus the new condo should have easy access to North South Highway as I will still maintain my house in Malacca which is by the seaside and very quiet.Hope this answer you !
Comment by Viking — April 18, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
F.Y.I, I think I saw a banner at the overhead bridge at the ss19 stretch. It says something about a neighbourhood meeting, which Lee Hwa Beng will be attending. Forgot the date but you may be interested in attending it for your queries. Hope it’s not today or tmr or else it might be a lil late to inform =)
Comment by S-Kay — April 21, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Seem like a long time anyone has posted any photos of the progress of Saujana Residency. I am sure to those (like me) who cannot view the site conveniently will appreciate that. A great place to stay but if you are buying it for investment, I would not speculate. Look at e-Tiara – there are heaps of units available as per the classified in the Star and few takers.
Comment by Richard — April 22, 2007 @ 12:56 am
What I need is the Blog or the email address /or Tel number of Datuk Lee Hwa Beng’s service center if anyone has it . The election is coming, the people’e representative will be more pro-active to handle problem. This strip offer him the best avenue to demonstrate his willingness to service the Subang Jaya residences .
There is short and long term investment . One should look for longer investment and will only dispose the property if there is good opportunity .
Comment by Viking — April 22, 2007 @ 9:27 pm
Datuk Lee Hwa Beng’s web page and service centre is at http://hwabeng.org.my/ Hope this will help.
Comment by Richard — April 23, 2007 @ 10:41 am
Thanks Richard. I will approach and suggest him ASAP on the ways I see what need to be done to enhance / improve the environment of this strip of road i.e. Sound /dust pollutions , boulevad , LRT/KTM commuter stations interconnections ,etc etc . Since he is a Councilor of Majlis Perbandaraan Subang Jaya, he should be the right window for us to air the suggestions.
Comment by Viking — April 23, 2007 @ 9:58 pm
You are welcome, Viking. Just ask if you need help. I am sure other Saujana Residency purchasers will lend you their support too.
Comment by Richard — April 24, 2007 @ 12:45 pm
Have sent (April 25/07) in the request for assistance letter to Datuk Lee. Hopefully he will respond and review / act on the suggestions. If MPSJ can take the suggestions to improve this strip , then we will have a better place to live in . We Malaysians have progress to a stage that we need more than a roof over our heads . We need better quality of life and living environment.Thanks
Comment by Viking — April 25, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
I was at the Saujana Residency sales office & Subang Avenue last weekend, and the piling works already completed. Personally, I prefer Saujana Residency to Subang Avenue for 3 main reasons: (1)Exclusive low density condo for residential purpose (2) The location of the entrance of Subang Avenue is same with Subang Parade & Carrefour, might be traffic jam during sales periods, or obstructions caused by parking along the road sides.(3)With Subang Parade, Carrefour so nearby, no need to stay above the Subang Avenue at all!
Comment by Liz — May 7, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
When I purchased a unit last year, I requested to change the wall tiles of the bathrooms (at extra costs of course) but I was told by the sales person that I could not do any alteration until the unit is fully completed. Why waste money and time putting up the tiles to break them up again and replace with one that I prefer or like? After all it is not structural or overall alteration. Anyone knows the actual law about this matter?
Comment by Richard — May 8, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
I requested a similar thing and was told the same thing i.e. I have to do it myself after the project had been completed. I wanted some wall light fittings and to have my own choice of colours for the interior walls of all the rooms. I don’t know about the actual law on this matter but the S&P Agreement may throw some light. I feel that the Developer, at the time of commencement of work on each unit, should sent a letter to the Purchaser detailing the additional work (optional) they can carry out and the costs involved. This would save us lots of inconvenience if we were to do things to our taste after the project is completed.
Comment by Cobra — May 10, 2007 @ 3:57 am
FYI…TAMAN SUBANG RIA DEVELOPMENT PUBLIC HEARING. Check the site: http://hwabeng.org.my/node/329
Comment by mlcheah — May 11, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Please read item 111 with care and hopefully more people can approach Datuk Lee for assistance . Let me thank Datuk Lee Hwa Beng for the suggestions / actions on the Green Lung- Park and the tunnel proposal to ease the traffic . The Green Lung should be part of the environment program for the Jln SS16/1. More developers should emulate Sime UEP on their social responsibilities ! We are a step closer to our dream Jalan ss16/1 strip -Subang Jaya Boulevard ! We need a lot more supports from you :the investors and developers , MPSJ and Datuk Lee. Thanks again . By early 2010s or may be 2008/9 we should have a proud boulevard to stroll along !
Comment by Viking — May 11, 2007 @ 11:09 pm
If this make your day!
The lady at the sales office told me the prices for the remaining units ( a few units left )have gone up.
Units facing evening sun by 5% and away 10%.
Comment by nike — May 13, 2007 @ 10:24 am
hi, i want to get more details about Rawang Emerald, Topaz semi-D 2-storey house. Can you get me more info? Many thanks
Comment by Jason Lim — May 21, 2007 @ 4:49 pm
For the benefit of those who are unable to visit the site, can someone let us know what is happening (progress of work)at the Saujana site?
Comment by Cobra — June 27, 2007 @ 1:33 am
I visited the site about 1.5 months ago and the lady that was there mentioned they are working on the pilling caps or something to that effect. The project next to the showroom (Empire?) seems to be really gaining pace and there’s now a giant pit there.
Comment by KC — July 12, 2007 @ 1:46 pm
Thanks, KC. I hope we get progress reports like yours from time to time on this site.
Comment by Cobra — July 26, 2007 @ 1:55 am
As first, I was quite worried about the construction progress because I bought a unit there.
However after my visit to the sales office on Monday, I was relieved because the sites are very busy with workers. There are 2 big permanent cranes and there are also peoples working on the site together with others machinery.
Maybe we did not notice because of the green fencing which is blocking our view all this while.
I paid for the second 10% earlier which they claimed for piling work.. I think there are doing the base slab at the moment.
I still find Saujana Residency very impressive when compared with others.
Basically I bought a unit because of 3 main factors :-
THE LOCATION - Good! Good! Good!
THE LIVING CONCEPT - 100% residential
THE DESIGN – Full Glass Wall which make the unit very bright, open and modern.
But I really hope that the developer Lion Group can DELIVER ON TIME and MAINTAIN THE QUALITY of the building.
Meantime, I can only PRAY and hope that they will DELIVER THEIR PROMISES!
Comment by myview — July 26, 2007 @ 1:46 pm
Hi guys, am planning to buy one there too but am concern about the commercial title vs residential title issue…anyone know if there is any update on this???
Comment by OTL — July 29, 2007 @ 3:10 am
Is this project on schedule? does anyone know the progress schedule? Even there are busy workers all around, The BIG Question is “are we on Schedule???”
Comment by TC No.1 — July 30, 2007 @ 11:36 pm
Refer to comment by OTL : if you are using EPF to pay your downpayment or installment, there isnt any difference, you can still withdraw for both titles. The only difference if I can remember after asking the Sales Person at the sales office is when you sell the condo, you would hv to get the developer to “stamp approve”
Comment by TC No.1 — July 30, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
Most of the current launchings are either commercial title on freehold land or leasehold . I would prefer commercial title even the costs will be higher than the residential freehold .The choices are getting limited .
The staff at the site has repeatedly maintain that the project is on schdule but looking at the progress of Empire SOHO and Jana Tower , Lion Group has to wake up and double the speed to ensure they can keep their committed schedule . The steel price could be the deterent factor for them to speed up . They could do better !
Comment by Viking — August 1, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
actually, i was there last saturday and mind you…from what I saw…I really don’t think the project is on track..lots of digging, don’t see much structure. I am worried about the property completing in time too.
Comment by OTL — August 1, 2007 @ 11:21 pm
According to my engineer brother, the piling and the construction of the basement (under the ground) will usually take about a quarter to one third (depending on the size of the basement) of the total project time. After which, the construction from surface (ground level) upwards will be very quick.
Comment by Cobra — August 4, 2007 @ 3:20 am
thk u Cobra…anyway I might go there this coming weekend again and take a look.
Comment by OTL — August 6, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
Thanks OTL. Do give us a feedback after your visit.
Comment by Cobra — August 7, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
Cobra’s engineer brother is right and it’s normal that piling processes takes this long (if I’m not mistaken, piling only started in October 2006). I’m not even surprised and I definitely won’t encourage Lion to speed up their process just to maintain their lead ahead of Empire and Jana. I very much prefer my apartment to be on sturdy grounds than get it early and have problems with the foundation in the long run. AND looking at properties like K-Residence, it took them only one week per floor to complete constructions from surface up. Do the math and don’ be overly worried just yet =)
Comment by S-Kay — August 12, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
Passing by Federal Highway few nights ago and I can see bright light from the project site and the tower crane. I think they doing 24 hours work. I will go and visit again this weekend and will let you guys know about the construction stage.
Comment by myview — August 23, 2007 @ 10:09 am
Been there a few days ago, came all the way from England to see the progress. Took lots of photos. So excited now. To all of you…..don’t worry so much!! Just let them do their job.
Comment by ZN — August 25, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Hi everyone, here’s a quick update for those who are interested in the progress of the construction. I saw that the ground level wodden scaffolding or the roof of the basement for the Suria block is already visible as of earlier this week or late last week. Looks like the basement is quite well under way. I’m unable to glance at the other block as there’s no opening in the wall. I’ll update you guys periodically as I pass that area on my daily commute to work.
Comment by KC — September 7, 2007 @ 11:50 am
was passing the area last week. seems like they have completed building the foundation and i can see that they are building the ground floor as the basements are built.
anyhow, anyone bought a TYPE B lot? perhaps it’s time to share some internal renovation ideas now. i planned to partition a small area towards the window similar to a mini lanai. what u guys think? wondering where to dry my clothes as there’s no balcony.
Comment by TC No.1 — October 3, 2007 @ 11:56 pm
why do u thk they provide a dryer ?
Comment by bayutower — October 4, 2007 @ 8:23 am
i’m new to dryer.. but can the dryer be used for all types of clothing and materials??how about satin, those dress with heavily accessorized with pebbles or shimmers? of course, i believe dryer can handle most fabrics.
Comment by TC No.1 — October 4, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
I bought the 3+1 unit in Suria.
I am thinking of converting the +1 small room at the back of Kitchen to be a nice little room for my son . I have two girls (working ) and 1 boy ( final year in Uni.now ). Again , I also need a little wet kitchen area and some area to hang the cloths though there is the dryer. Will have to provide a solid sound proof window though.
Comment by Viking — October 8, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
Having bought a small unit, I would put a working area/space just in front of the window facing out and a living hall sandwiched between the kitchen and the work area. Just a wild idea after visiting a friend’s condo recently.
Just wondering if anyone has received any further payment requests from them?
Comment by KC — October 11, 2007 @ 10:19 am
According to Lion, lowest basement almost completed for Suria and next payment for Suria due early November (Bayu payment will be sometime in December). They also said the car park is also almost done in Suria.
I am a bit lost on the “dryer”. Are dryers provided for each unit? I couldn’t find anything mentioned about dryers in the brochure.
Comment by Cobra — October 16, 2007 @ 11:12 pm
If you look at the schedules and other appendix to your S&P
you will find the dryer being listed . However , I am not sure that all units are supplied with a dryer each . Looks like we have to get ready to settle the nexrt payment very soon.
Comment by Viking — October 18, 2007 @ 1:01 pm
Thanks, Viking. I found “dryer” mentioned in one of the Schedules of my S&P.
Comment by Cobra — October 19, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
Hi everyone. I’m a also a buyer for this place. Just stumbled on this site. Good info regarding the progress. However, I find the progress quite slow compared to other projects by other developers. Any news?
Comment by scrubby — November 1, 2007 @ 4:42 pm
You’re rating its progress against which developer? I hope not the ones at the ss16/1 stretch?
Comment by S-Kay — November 2, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
Has anyone receive notification for the next payment yet ?
Comment by viking — November 4, 2007 @ 1:57 am
Not me.
I can see delay in billing can be attributed to progress on Bayu Tower.
Still it should be due this month. Maybe 2 payments in quick sucsessions.
Comment by bayutower — November 4, 2007 @ 9:23 am
i’ve received my 2nd notice. bought bayu tower
Comment by TC No.1 — November 4, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
Have visited the site on Sunday Nov.11. Was told that they are behind schedule for three months .
The next payment notice will be given out by the end of November .
Comment by Viking — November 12, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
After some viewing, I still find Saujana Residency very impressive where compared with others, i.e. Kemuning Residence, Hijauan Residence, USJ one, South Quay, Laman Grandview, etc.. WHY?
1. Location – Good and convenient to access, most important NO traffic jam and NOT NEED to pay the toll. FREE HOLD.
2. Living concept - 100% residential, the SEMI-D type with own garden but come with condo facilities.
3. Design – Full glass wall and window, open air shower rain and corner full glass for all bath room.
My family thought to buy a unit of Semi-D, they like the Semi-D unit with own garden, had been cheked, it about 4′200sqf (build-up area only) and the garden space about 1,500sqf, it cost about RM 1,004 million.
Has anyone buy the Semi-D unit? Please share your thoughts.
Comment by Vang — November 12, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
I was told the Semi-D has no taker so far . They are the Subang Jaya view and not the pool view which could be the unattractiveness . The attraction is the location and conveniences . Plus the condo facilities .Depend on your personal preference . You may have a semi-D dwelling in a Condo environment.It could be much safer .
Comment by Viking — November 13, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
Was just wondering what is the reason they are behind schedule for 3 months? Hopefully it’s not due to some construction issue.
On the other hand, was just wondering if anyone has any news on the LRT extension into Subang? Seems like there’s not much news on that lately.
Comment by KC — November 13, 2007 @ 11:30 pm
Just got my notice to pay - progress payment (Suria Tower)for “Completion of Lowest Basement Slab”.
Comment by Cobra — November 17, 2007 @ 4:57 pm
Hi All Saujana Residency purchaser,
I would like to request your kindly support for the following items to Lion group management:
Please refer to the link for more detail.
http://realestate.net.my/forum/viewtopic.php?p=105291#105291
1. Generally, I would like to make an suggesting to Saujana management to consider building alluminium or stainless steel gate provided to all units , as i noticed the current development not include standard gate, and even security door hole is not come with the main door. Which really vulnerable and feel insecure for the residents stayed inside although all sort of security is provided in the building for residents.
RickLock is with me with the additional suggestion raised to Lion group management.
2. May be we should request for filtered water too as the water is generally not that clean
Please compile and indicate all your reasonable requests and units and tower so i write-in official letter for the above action.
Thanks.
Comment by banq — November 19, 2007 @ 10:14 am
Hi All Saujana Residency purchaser,
I would like to request your kindly support for the following items to Lion group management:
Please refer to the link for more detail.
http://realestate.net.my/forum/viewtopic.php?p=105291#105291
1. Generally, I would like to make an suggesting to Saujana management to consider building alluminium or stainless steel gate provided to all units , as i noticed the current development not include standard gate, and even security door hole is not come with the main door. Which really vulnerable and feel insecure for the residents stayed inside although all sort of security is provided in the building for residents.
RickLock is with me with the additional suggestion raised to Lion group management.
2. May be we should request for filtered water too as the water is generally not that clean
Please compile and indicate all your reasonable requests and units and tower so i write-in official letter for the above action.
Thanks.
Comment by banq — November 19, 2007 @ 10:44 am
Hi All Please let me know all your valid suggestions points as described previous posted. Hopefully management can act against the points provided.
Thanks for all supports.
Comment by banq — November 19, 2007 @ 3:58 pm
I will support the water filter . As for Stainless front door gate , buyers may prefer their own design if not vioating the standard form given by the Condo developer / management .
Can you provide a table of “wants or needs” for the buyers to pick ?? However, nothing is free .
Comment by Viking — November 20, 2007 @ 5:45 pm
Agree with Viking, nothing is free.
I too support the water filter.
Comment by bayutower — November 20, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
I have just received the request for 3rd 10% for the Bayu Tower. True, I doubt the developer will install all those stuff for free as they are not specified in the S & P. However, if we have the number to install whatever we need en masse, the developer may be able to negotiate a better than market price.
Comment by RichLock — November 20, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
Yes Viking and RichLock thanks for comments.
Problem is the management is now given pre inform that Not allow any units to install any gate themself not the matter of gate pattern/styles that we preferred.
Guys, i have sign- S&P and passed the request letter to the management really required your support as well to make all points discussed for mgmt to take action.
Please email me your full name, units number and cell phone number to show support at damontwb@gmail.com
Comment by Damon — November 22, 2007 @ 5:46 pm
All the valid points has been noted down below for your reference please email your units number, full name with cell phone contact number for support to make above request to mgmt thanks.
1. Management to include a Security Door Hole for each unit as it’s is required to build –in the main entrance of the wooden door. Reason of request is to enable resident to keep close careful monitor of guests before opening the main door entrance to prevent serious high possibility of thief break-in and also have well prepare before approach incoming guests for resident conveniences.
2. Management should also considering to include the door bell build-in in the purchase unit specification as this is the normal regular necessity for all resident for the high-end rank of commercial services residency.
3. Permits residents of Saujana Residency to build the steel / aluminum gate before the main entrance of the wooden door. Reason of request because the current single wooden door come with the units is not sufficient to secure the unit with the high crime rate happened in our country as we can see in the newspaper reported daily.
Reason of proposed to allow residents to build extra aluminum gates to act as additional layer of protection plus additionally residents can also can have a own little space located inside the main gate for utility purposes.
We understand in Saujana Residency title, management are discouraged and prevent resident not to allocate utilities front of main entrance. Unfortunately, the approach is can be further improved by allows residents to fully utilizes own space units with proper cabinets or cupboards build on the side way of the corner. Prior before including cabinets or cupboards, residents should shown prior plan to Saujana Heights management for approval before start the work.
4. In additional, management should consider include the additional strong wooden door locks, and door steel chains as of protection for the security purposes. This also allows the residents to have a peace of minds when residents inside or away from the house for short or long time period.
5. Management consider to include a water filter in the each units of water meters AND the main water pipe supply for residents in Saujana Residency due to main reason water supply to the units nowadays in serviced apartment and condominium residency or even landed housing area is dirty and should be filtered for residents hygiene purposes.
Comment by Banq — November 22, 2007 @ 5:48 pm
So Viking and Richlock, please kindly forward your full detail to me to follow up closely with the management. To all others purchasers, please let me know if interest to show supports, generally it’s for beneficial to all. Some valid points i believe Lion group management should have serious consideration and provide to all units e.g. #1, #4 and #5.
Just 2 cent request no harm and not incurred any cost to you too.
Comment by Banq — November 22, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
FEEDBACK NEEDED
Hi all,
I’d appreciate if I could get some sound advise here and thanks to this forum, I’ve got lots of my questions answered. I checked out the remaining units available for Saujana Residency and there’s this last 1R(740sqf) square unit in the Bayu block still available that i’m interested investing in.
Thats translates to $371 p/sqf and does seem a little steep but no doubt that the location and especially the design surpasses the nearby condos.
So my question is;
1) How much were similar units selling for back during the initial launch in 2005?
2) is every unit equipped with a dryer as mentioned by some of you?
2) What about the rental returns that some of you are expecting? I’ve see the e-Tiara and I can’t believe that units there are selling at 250K and up for the 690 to 7++ sqf units and renting for over $1400. No offence, but I don’t find e-Tiara impressive at all in terms of design & quality (the finishing is fair but not exceptional)
I’d rather invest in Saujana Residency mainly because it’s upscale and it’s units will target a different group of clientele in terms of renting.
I’d appreciate some feedback. Thanks all
Comment by Gill — November 22, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
Sorry, Benq, I am sure many purchasers here will support you with ideas, but to furnish you with our personal details is another matter we need to consider as personally we don’t know each other and we don’t know what you can do with our particulars. Forgive me if I sound distrustful or susppicious. I really apprciate your initiative and good intentions for all. Maybe there is another method to show to the Saujana Management that we all support the ideas you have brought out without divulging our personal details.
Comment by RichLock — November 22, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
Hello Gill, you really have noticed a big difference between Saujana and eTiara. Personally I will go for Saujana (I have bought one unit @ Bayu). For whatever the reason, the rental at e-Tiara has gone up lately! I called up one agent a month or two ago because I wanted to lease one unit for myself and I was quoted about RM1100 or RM1200 and lately when you scan the newspapers, they are asking for RM1500! If e-Tiara can fetch RM1400/1500, I guess SR could do better! Yes, most if not all units come with air-cons and dryers but I can’t recall the launch price for the 740sf.
Comment by RichLock — November 22, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
the 749 sqf should be the TYPE A design. I bought the TYPE B unit (800++ sqf) for rm250k. the unit was bought earlier this year before the price went up again.
e-tiara vs SR
basically, i currently live in ridzuan sunway which mainly occupied by students from taylors, sunway etc. the security sucks here big time cause the guards can’t control the fluctuations of student residents. They can’t differentiate residents and outsiders. Maintenance sucks as well. Students tend to trash the facilities. Noise level, rubbish, lift service and foreign Bangladeshis and pakistanis workers floods this condo. Taylors College bought the whole block and rent out to their students.
FYI, Taylors have bought a block in e-Tiara. I forsee that e-Tiara will be another Ridzuan nightmare episode II in the future. So, take your pick Gill.
Comment by TC No.1 — November 23, 2007 @ 12:44 am
Thanks RichLock & TC,
No way I’m going with eTiara, SR would be value for money when you make a comparison between the two.
We’ll I’ve mabe up my mind and will be booking the SR unit tomorrow. It’ll be a great investment I’m sure.
By the way,
1) is there anything in the S&P I should be aware of? any important fineprints?
2) The salesperson would not be specific on when the keys will be handed over, as she kept saying “end of 2009″ but would not be specific when I asked her which month. Any ideas?
Comment by Gill — November 23, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
Hi, Bang, thanks for the effort to secure better deal for the buyers.May be you should talk to Lion Group first to see what kind of eveidences they want to see before agreeing to the suggested rquests. However , I do agreed with Lion Group to control the use of common spaces/areas as we need to maintain a certain standard.All of us want to see appreciation in our investment .We don’t want another E Tiara or Pelangi Damansara and even Pelangi Utama .They should give a standard guideline for the condo buyers for the main door grille and renovation that affect the frontage the condo unit . For water filter , we could have alternatives for the installation .To do a security door eye is a simple task . Suggest we focus on something that has greater impacts . Anyway, thanks for the initiation of the actions. Let see what can we do .
Comment by viking — November 25, 2007 @ 12:32 am
END OF 2009???? When i bought it in APR/MAY, we were told that it will be completed in MID 2009?!?!?
Comment by TC No.1 — November 25, 2007 @ 3:15 am
Thanks Viking to reply, yes submitted the request to Lion group management for action. Hope they can do something about it too. Viking do you have anything major impact request would like to share up with us maybe we can discuss about it as well. Let me know free to meet up or so.
Comment by Banq — November 27, 2007 @ 12:41 pm
Hi All,
Anyone knows whatever happened to the proposed boulevard? Is it still in the works or already killed?
Comment by Mark — November 27, 2007 @ 11:11 pm
I believe sound pollution is one of the major concerns as we are just right next to Federal Highway .People will always ask : why are we buying the condo in the very first place ? Location. location , location and the convenience .We do need some good sound acoustic barrier to reduce the noise level right in front of KTM Dual Tracks which also contribute to the higher level of Noise .
In addition the beautification program - the Boulevard that I have mooted sometime ago, Datuk Lee Hwa Beng , the State Assemblyman of USJ has promised to champion it for us . Please surf his website for more information . Again, we do need internal beautification program that make this Project a outstanding service condo.
The next subject is to convert commercial title to Residential title which will do us a lot of good in saving utility costs and local taxes .
Comment by VIKING — November 28, 2007 @ 11:24 am
With regards to security, I have some suggestions.
1. cctv at all common areas,lift lobbies at every floor and of course in all lifts.
2.”access card” should be exclusive.That is it will only instruct the lift to take residents to their respective floors.
3.Fire escape or staircases doors can only open from OUTSIDE(apt side)and take you all the way to the ground where it can only open from INSIDE.
These measures should keep unwanted guests from your own floors and it has been implemented in many buildings especially overseas.
Comment by bayutower — December 2, 2007 @ 8:56 am
Good points! Security points should be fine as normally Serv Resid or Condo has a pretty tight and good security cctv as well as security guards, hope Lion group mgmt can take this serious thought for the safety of residents.
As for sounds pollution and impact wise, personally i dont think it’s too much impact as you can experience when you’re site office, or even e-tiara area units. You would not hear a single noise till you really open windows at balcony area for sure. Generally i would say it’s should be alright. Don’t worry.
Btw, do your guys notice the development progress has been slowing down lately? Any reason or so? Contacted the site development is on-going and up to the schedule too.
On the other side, i realized Lion group developer is currently take times to approved and sign up the banked loan. (I’ve waited for almost 1 1/2 weeks and yet still waiting). Any purchasers faced the same issue to share experience would be great appreciated.
Cheerio!
Comment by Banq — December 3, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
I’ve been told that the completion is scheduled for Q3 2009, still not giving any dates…. Thats the best I could get out of them.
Comment by Gill — December 3, 2007 @ 7:19 pm
According to my S&P “Completion Date” is 13th.Oct.2009, ie 36 months from signing.
Anyway penalty for late delivery is 10% of purchased price. Please refer to item 25 & item 26 of S&P.
We are pretty well protected unless of course if Saujana Heights goes bankrupt.
Comment by bayutower — December 3, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Bang,
Sound Pollution does present a problem. I have visited the site practically monthly to check on the Sound situation and site progress.Especially at the kitchen / back room . The sound pollution is very noticeable . I bought the 3+1 units just beside the KTM dual track and Federal Highway at 13 floor .
I have experienced such situation in HongKong even I live on 45th floor and 2 KM away from the elevated expressway.
The dust and sound pollutions did distrurb me !
As for Lion Group rest assure they will not have problem as I used to work for them back in early 90s. I bought the unit because it is Lion Group .
Comment by viking — December 5, 2007 @ 10:15 pm
Viking and all bros, ya this is another concern too. We have the same units model purchased 3+1. I hope the windows class installed at least can lowered down the noisy level. That the only solution so far guess. Yes i do check on site progress weekly since i by pass subang often at least 4-5 times a week,based on my view survey their progress is much slowly as compared to Sime Darby development (next to carrefour), again yes S&P covered for protection of 10% stated clearly.
Anyone of your guys took up MRTA for the loan tenure? Just wanted to check some MRTA did charged for RM100 for photo shot as partly of MRTA procedure. Any concern?
Comment by BanQ — December 6, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
Gill, thanks for info. Yes tentively Q3 of 09 should be completed the project.
Bayutower, don’t worry Parkson is the money tree for lion group. Latest Pavillion anchor tenants available in KL town.
Comment by BanQ — December 6, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
Me no worry.
Me thought under prevailing deposit rates, maybe not too bad if project delay.
Comment by bayutower — December 6, 2007 @ 3:37 pm
I passed by the site this morning and noticed what looks like a new bright yellow tower crane on the bayu block. Not sure why, perhaps that could be the cause of the delay?
Comment by KC — December 11, 2007 @ 12:31 am
That’s good.
In fact I saw the previous tower crane being dismantled.
The safety officer said it was not safe - swaying ??
Safety First!
Comment by bayutower — December 11, 2007 @ 9:46 am
No worries, checked with project developer all seem on schedule. The major concern is about pilling works done remaining of the construction works should be fairly fast. My concerns here is looking at middle connection path walk way connecting from BT to ST seem smaller in size than the actual architecture plan. mmmm
Comment by mouse — December 20, 2007 @ 5:18 pm
Just passed by the site this morning and it seems that they have started construction of a new floor on Suria tower. Hopefully this means construction of the upper areas have resumed finally. Now the concern would be when the next payment will be due..any ideas anyone?=)
Comment by KC — December 26, 2007 @ 5:22 pm
I went visited the site and have a words with sales in charged. According to them BT is expected to have slight delay of construction due to the faulty of the architect on the build-up and now try to correcting it and will likely resume construction as soon as it’s completed. Not pretty sure about the next payment due. Are you refer to the progressive payment loan terms to developer project?
Thanks
Comment by mouse — December 27, 2007 @ 6:42 pm
I was referring to the next progress payment (the next 10%). I heard it’s about 3 months from now. ST seems to have not much activity also other than the guys putting something on top of it.
Comment by KC — January 2, 2008 @ 6:31 pm
Been passing the site on a daily basis and I seem to notice (at least on the surface) that not much work is being done there. Was just wondering if anyone has had information on the progress?=)
Comment by KC — January 18, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
Seldom pass that route lately. But the last time I was passing by(mid January) I told myself it did have some progress. Currently I am involved in a very tough negotiation with a hotel operator that manage the resort condo units in Melaka . The leaseback Unit owners formed a loose association to protest our interest . The negotiation process is tough and winding . This will be my last purchase for any condo or apartment unit.I wil definitely go for landed property the next time around .
Comment by viking — January 19, 2008 @ 9:17 pm
Viking, what is this “protest our interest” thing about? Anything we (the purchasers) should know more in details? Thanks for sharing.
Comment by Richard Lock — February 3, 2008 @ 10:42 pm
Hi all,
I am creating a community website for residents of the serviced apartments along SS16. Can buyers here kindly scan and e-mail me the detailed brochure and unit layout/floor plans for Saujana Residency? Please e-mail hiredpen@gmail.com I’m currently overseas and can’t find Saujana Residency floor plans online. Thanks in advance.
Comment by Edward — February 4, 2008 @ 7:54 pm
Hi Viking what’s up there? Everything alright?
Edward not sure what’s your primary objective about / or would you like to create a community site for this serviced apartment officially via developer. You can probably seek those floor plan with developer directly with the right agreements of course.
Cheers
Comment by mouse — February 24, 2008 @ 11:52 pm
KC i went to site last month as well and find they have already started and soon completed the pillow work for the remaining part for ST and BT. I hope they can speed up the work and complete earlier. Also, i am going to have my 10% bill require next month for BT as well.
Anyone?
Comment by mouse — February 24, 2008 @ 11:57 pm
hi mouse, thanks for the update!=) Good to know that things are moving there. I just got back and found there are some new structures up on both towers. Hopefully that’s a good sign. Guess I better start preparing for my next payment too. Thus far I have not received any notice yet.
On the other hand, wondering if there’s still a movement to communicate our hopes to Lion group to change the property title from commercial to residence?=) Perhaps all of us buyers can submit a letter to have that done?=)
Comment by KC — February 25, 2008 @ 12:30 am
Hi everybody, got today Payment Notice for “Completion of Carpark Structure” for Suria. So get ready to pay up.
Comment by Cobra — February 26, 2008 @ 4:17 pm
Thanks Cobra. Really really appreciate your info.
Comment by ZN — February 27, 2008 @ 3:36 am
Hi all, I am one of many proud owners of Bayu Tower and would really appreciate any new and recent news and developments of Saujana Residency, expecially the next progress payment notice, as I live in England and I need a lot of time to transfer my funds back to Malaysia and also I am unable to see by myself the actual progress work on the site. I am very grateful for this forum and all of you for your updates.
Regards.
Comment by ZN — March 4, 2008 @ 7:13 pm
Hi everybody, got today Payment Notice for “Completion of Carpark Structure” for BAYU TOWER. So get ready to pay up.
Comment by TC No.1 — March 5, 2008 @ 1:31 am
Cheers TC
Comment by ZN — March 5, 2008 @ 2:28 am
Hi everyone, I just paid a visit to the site to pay up the next 10% for ST. The site is progressing now and floors are being built. I have also made 2 enquiries to the personel on site:
1) Why was the construction of the project halted or looks like not progressing for a period of time in 2007?
Answer: They were waiting for the sewerage treatment plant to settle and after that they will proceed with the construction (not sure how true is this).
2) The empty space in front of our units, how can we utilize it?
Answer: She mentioned that area technically is ours but it is a common area. When asked whether we can build a grill or something there, she mentioned that at present that is not allowed but if we write in to management, it may be possible depending on circumstances. (Perhaps we can petition for this)
Hope this helps=D
Comment by KC — March 10, 2008 @ 3:10 pm
hello, i just discovered this site and I’m glad as I bought a studio unit in Bayu Tower as a weekend home to pamper myself. Now tht Lee Hwa Beng lost in the election, will there be anyone to take up the Boulevard project? It’s important for us to increase the value of our properties in SR since we’re paying premium compared to the rest of the other projects along the same row.
Comment by AL — March 13, 2008 @ 7:38 pm
Hi Al, welcome to this site. Sorry I don’t really understand why Boulevard project will have an impact on the value of Saujana Residency. But I am sure that we are paying premium because of our own merits.
Comment by ZN — March 13, 2008 @ 11:07 pm
can u explain about the boulevard project? never heard of it… anyhow, should think that if this project is useful, i don’t see why DAP oppose it.
it’s better than some stupid gigantic ‘golden bird’ statue aka millennium park that was built and demolished in SS13 & cost millions of tax payers money. And how about the 3C centre that’s not fully utilize!?!
If the Boulevard project is gonna be some dumb project for ‘personal’ profit, then forget it.
Comment by TC No.1 — March 14, 2008 @ 1:28 am
My apologies for creating confusion. I was referring to 2 different topics - (i)Boulevard project; and (ii) increasing the value of SR. TC, Boulevard is/was(?) an RM8mil 1.5km pedestrian walkway stretching from Wisma Mesiniaga to Jana Towers. Hv a great weekend everyone
Comment by AL — March 14, 2008 @ 7:07 am
Hi Guys for quick update i have also received Payment Notice for “Completion of Carpark Structure” for BAYU TOWER.
For progress i went on site on Friday 14th Mar,08 and checked on progress seem on time. FYI. Construction beginning with ST then only slowly move to BT according to the construction architect plan. I am not sure why can’t both tower build at the same time, probably it’s their architect plan & strategic.
As for KC feedback regards on the approval for fully utilise the front door space (by building gate advisable). I have raised similir concern and wrote to management. Please see the earlier thread posted before. Yes petition works only with cooperative in community. Please let me know if your guys is willing to meet up to discuss and make it happen.
Let me know we can arrange meet up for discussion.
Comment by mouse — March 16, 2008 @ 3:07 am
Guys,
Please support this:
All the valid points has been noted down below for your reference please email your units number, full name with cell phone contact number for support to make above request to mgmt thanks.
1. Management to include a Security Door Hole for each unit as it’s is required to build –in the main entrance of the wooden door. Reason of request is to enable resident to keep close careful monitor of guests before opening the main door entrance to prevent serious high possibility of thief break-in and also have well prepare before approach incoming guests for resident conveniences.
2. Management should also considering to include the door bell build-in in the purchase unit specification as this is the normal regular necessity for all resident for the high-end rank of commercial services residency.
3. Permits residents of Saujana Residency to build the steel / aluminum gate before the main entrance of the wooden door. Reason of request because the current single wooden door come with the units is not sufficient to secure the unit with the high crime rate happened in our country as we can see in the newspaper reported daily.
Reason of proposed to allow residents to build extra aluminum gates to act as additional layer of protection plus additionally residents can also can have a own little space located inside the main gate for utility purposes.
We understand in Saujana Residency title, management are discouraged and prevent resident not to allocate utilities front of main entrance. Unfortunately, the approach is can be further improved by allows residents to fully utilizes own space units with proper cabinets or cupboards build on the side way of the corner. Prior before including cabinets or cupboards, residents should shown prior plan to Saujana Heights management for approval before start the work.
4. In additional, management should consider include the additional strong wooden door locks, and door steel chains as of protection for the security purposes. This also allows the residents to have a peace of minds when residents inside or away from the house for short or long time period.
5. Management consider to include a water filter in the each units of water meters AND the main water pipe supply for residents in Saujana Residency due to main reason water supply to the units nowadays in serviced apartment and condominium residency or even landed housing area is dirty and should be filtered for residents hygiene purposes.
Comment by Banq — November 22, 2007 @ 5:48 pm
Comment by BanQ — March 16, 2008 @ 3:11 am
Take note on point no 3 (for fully utilize the front door space). Guys,appreciate can take your little precious time raise this up to management via email/write. It’s does help to make things happen.
Cheers.
Comment by mouse — March 16, 2008 @ 3:14 am
Sorry can only support item 1.
item 2 not neccessary 4 apt.
item 3 may cheapment the plc.
item 4 will not be free.
item 5 main supply probably filtered. good enough. in any case u are not having direct supply.
Bought with eyes open. anything that incur additional cost not interesting.
4 security, swipe card shd be programmed to allow lift to take residents to thier respective floors only. pls read my earlier proposer on this.
Comment by bayutower — March 16, 2008 @ 10:29 am
Hi, I don’t think people buying homes in Saujana Residency or any where else would like to give their details, the phone nos, emails, unit nos and even their full names for public to see. Nevertheless Banq all item proposals are good and please write directly to the Lion Group if interested. I would.
Comment by ZN — March 16, 2008 @ 7:02 pm
Thanks for reply ZN.
Just to clarify owners should write in and send to management instead. Please do not provide me detail
Personally, i have done it. Anyone done take any action for write in so far? Action speak louder than words.
Bayutower, item 2 is mandatory at least it’s very basic needs for all condo /apartment. I been to least hold condo everywhere it’s also included. Recently visited Metropolitan Square at Damansara Perdana, they’ll have it too
Item 4: If management permit residence to fully utilize the front door space, this can be excluded i suppose.
Guys, please write in to SR management for your own individual suggestion too. It’s for all good & benefit actually. No harm.
Thanks.
Comment by banq — March 16, 2008 @ 10:02 pm
I think that only item 1 is a good idea to relate to the mgt but the rest is quite optional and especially in regards to Item 3, my concerns are below :
The idea of Saujana Residency is to reflect an uppermarket service apartment within the SJ area and to make it stand out amongst the apartments on the stretch. I assume that the utility area usage request may be for the main purpose of putting your shoes, racks and etc, correct? If that is the case, looking at the design..the short walkway after the entrance is in fact to be considered your “utility” area. Having to put a grill (beautiful or not) and having to walk past units with “stuffs” put outside for the view of the public will totally defeat the whole concept.
I am very concern about the value of my property and the purchase value isn’t very cheap either but I’m paying for the concept so I believe that if we want to liken Saujana to other more common apartments then it is unfair to others as it may actually affect their investment value.
There are other ways to increase security without devaluing the property such as the swipe card idea proposed by Bayu Tower.
Comment by S-Kay — March 22, 2008 @ 6:00 am
To add on, putting a steel gate wouldn’t help much coz a thief wouldn’t go “Hey, there’s a steel gate…I guess it would be too difficult to rob this unit..let’s try the next one”. So my suggestion is that that increased security to the units and of the wooden door is more crucial (i.e : security keyhole and etc)
Comment by S-Kay — March 22, 2008 @ 6:03 am
Well done S-Kay !
Couldn’t put it better myself .
Imagine, every floor a ” gated Community “.
Comment by bayutower — March 22, 2008 @ 10:08 am
Thanks for your feedback guys. So please try to write in to the management with the respective concern ya. I’ve been myself
Comment by banq — April 5, 2008 @ 6:02 pm
Guys, do you guys heard any update on the development progress. So far, i seen the development work still in progress and completed parking bays (3 stories) and now start building up the ground floor.
Comment by banq — April 22, 2008 @ 5:33 pm
I was told that the next payment schedule is by floor.Mine is on 13 floor, thus it will be a long time for me to service the next payment . The question is that will the project be completed on committed schedule-mid 2009 ??
Is there any more new Condos /apartment lauchning along the same road ?
Comment by Viking — April 22, 2008 @ 8:35 pm
Thanks for info Viking. In this case mine even longer as they only start the ST building 1st for now. I am not sure they can completed on committed schedule-mid 09, but i believe once the basement pillar and 3 level of car parks work completed then shouldn’t be an issue.
Please note the showroom scheduled to demolish soon for the full development work.
Anyone visit the site or the Saujana Height office?
Guys, any follow up on the item requested as mentioned earlier threads?
Thanks
Comment by banq — May 14, 2008 @ 9:55 am
Though I am also concerned about the speed of the progress, seeing that Lion is the developer..I do not think that they wish to taint their credibility by not completing on time. For experienced buyers (like some here whom I know owns or have bought apartments before), you should know that not only they have to incur the cost of compensating the buyers for the delay but also legal action from buyers and more seriously the bank financing the projects. This is the only thing that serves as comfort for now.
What I don’t understand is that, it takes only one week per floor but it seems to me that the workers are having a very laid back time.
Comment by S-Kay — May 19, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
Today(May 21,2008) ,I went passed PJ8 which is near the advance stage of completion. On the day that I finally booked the Saujana Residency in 2005, I was supposed to book the PJ8 unit which has a better location (for me ), but was put off due to the entry road and the surroundings were not in my favour . Just wonders how Lion Group rate themselves against the PJ8 project progress speed .I bought the Saujana unit because it is Lion Group , but somehow it does not warrant the respect on this project .
Comment by Viking — May 22, 2008 @ 12:20 am
I had a look at PJ8 as well before deciding on Saujana Residency. And as mentioned by Viking, PJ8 is miles ahead of Saujana Residency in term of progress. It is even worst when compared to the project next door. It has been a dissapointment I must say…
Comment by MT — May 28, 2008 @ 4:17 pm
SR does seem a bit slow.
Most importantly, is it falling behind schedule ? As far as I know they have until Oct.2009 to deliver. Beginning to appear tight.
If not behind, then the developer must have got good reasons to progress at this pace.
Comment by bayutower — May 29, 2008 @ 6:18 am
I am sorry that the developer has to protect his own reputation.As far as I know the public announced commitment is Mid 2009 irrespect of the S&P date which the buyers should check .The project next door was launched far later and is far ahead . PJ8 is Kilometer ahead while launching at the same period. There is never any good reason for any failure to satisfy customers reasonably . Will you buy from the same developer for the next property with such failure ? Not for me . What we ask is why the progress is beyond acceptance .We do not appreciate the final push for completion compromising the quality . We have voice out the potential late delivery since early stage . If the developer is monitoring this blog , let his representative explain if the company is interested in regaining buyers confidence . The buying public is more aware of the competitive environment . Worse of all , Lion Group has its own steel mill which make it difficult to understand the short supply of steel building materials unless they are sacrifying the on-time delivery of the property for better profit margin harvested from selling steel to other developers . We need corporate social responisble also.
Comment by Viking — May 29, 2008 @ 12:41 pm
Today June 01, I took a leisure drive to view Saujana Residency’s progress .If one is simply just compare our project Vs the Empire Soho next door, you will just wonder what is going on ? Is there any valid excuses to fall behind
so pathetically . The marketing and customer service guru has always propagate that there is absolutely no excuse to fail a commitment . May be the management Guru is seriously wrong with their concept ?
Comment by Viking — June 2, 2008 @ 12:38 am
Viking, Thx for your quick update on status progress on SR’s development. I am going to call up the HQ to check the latest development progress in details as well as will drop by for leisure site view tomorrow probably lunch time. Please let me know if you’re free to meet up as well.
Guys, please call follow up the development progress with HQ the same. Your corporation is very much appreciated.
Comment by banq — June 2, 2008 @ 9:48 pm
I called the HQ today pretending to be a buyer. The marketing personnel claimed the project is on schedule and will be completed by mid 2009. On the other hand, I understand Empire SOHO is also scheduled to be completed by mid 2009. Looking at the progress of both sides, I don’t see how Lion can meet its commitment without accelerating the pace in the coming months.
Comment by MT — June 3, 2008 @ 11:25 am
I don’t know if its right to look at it this way but it looks as if both Empire and Saujana are progressing at the same rate coz I see that Empire is focused on building around - i.e: The portion we see from Fed highway looks as if they’re progressing speedily but when I look from the Wisma Tractors side, the whole front and mid side have no progress at all whereas with Saujana, it’s overall…floor by floor for both Suria + Bayu and not concentrating just on a particular section.
Admin : I’ve recently read something on apartment owners on commercial land not needing to pay steep prices for water anymore and that we will pay the same rate as landed property owners. Is it true coz as of now, if I’m not mistaken, apt owners are paying more than double of those of landed residences.
Comment by S-Kay — June 5, 2008 @ 11:10 pm
i haven’t heard of any changes yet, but at the moment, they pay commercial rates for utilities. sometimes the MC sets a rates, depending on how much they want to charge or absorb these rates.
Comment by Admin — June 5, 2008 @ 11:15 pm
Does anyone know when was the Building Plan approved? My S&P says, amongst other things, “vacant possession shall be delivered to the Purchaser within 36 calendar months from the date of Building Plan Approval.
By the way, some engineers told me that for projects the size of Saujana, it would take about 6 months of “finishing job” after the whole structure is built. When the structure is completed right to the top storey, they would then do a “mock finishing job” on just one apartment, fix whatever teething problems..once satisfied, they would then extend the finishing work to all the apartments. The whole finishing work would take about 6 months. So, to evaluate the time scale, if Saujana plans to give us the keys at end of June 2009, the structure of the 2 towers right to the top should be completed by December 2008. I believe the Developers have to make some rapid progress on Saujana within the next 3 to 4 months.
Comment by Cobra — June 6, 2008 @ 5:39 am
Correct Cobra & MT! I believe the developer will definitely plan ahead & speed up the progress within this couples of months in order to meet the schedule to all of us. I plan to call and check out the latest status of development again tomorrow BTW.
Admin: Why SR is under commercial rates for utilities where as SR it’s privately owned gated residency only without any commercial purposes / or tenants underneath the based floor. (E.gL Millennium square at Kota Damansara under commercial rate utilities as it’s purely commercial title holds)Rightfully, Lion group should convert it to resident rate for utilities at least.
Comment by banq — June 9, 2008 @ 12:47 am
banq: commercial rates apply because the land is has a commercial title designated by Pejabat Tanah, it doesn’t matter whether you build a privately owned residential building or an office block. Malaysia is peculiar to other neighbouring countries in that they allow condos on commercial lots.
Most developers won’t want to convert comm land to residential land for many reasons. One of it is that land conversion is a lengthy and expensive process, besides commercial projects are currently NOT government by the HDA so they it is more lucrative (and in their best interest) for developers.
Comment by Administrator — June 9, 2008 @ 1:21 am
Hye, I am new here and was reading you guys and gals comments. What I wanted to alert you all here is that SR is falling behind schedule and their Management already projected the LAD compensation! And the delay is estimated about 6 months from mid 2009
Comment by anchor — June 13, 2008 @ 12:17 pm
And another things I am wondering is whether the lion group has obtained the DCA height approval? Seems like thie building is much higher than wisma tractor and empire subang? As far as I am concern, SR development is within the flight cone of the subang airport and thus required DCA height approval. Please enlighten. TQ
Comment by anchor — June 13, 2008 @ 12:22 pm
Referring to Cobra’s comment No. 222, the bUilding Paln was approved in June 2006
Comment by anchor — June 13, 2008 @ 2:12 pm
I have done a quick check with one of my fellow friend in MPSJ Planning, seems like they have not obtained any DCA approval! Wondering how can their Building Plan be approved!!! This could jeopardize the CF issuance by MPSJ…
Comment by anchor — June 13, 2008 @ 2:15 pm
Hi Anchor, you mentioned the project would be delayed by 6 months, is your source reliable? I am not surprised by the way.
Comment by MT — June 13, 2008 @ 7:09 pm
The delay is so obvious.We can see that in our very own eyes the potential of missing the delivery .Why fool ourselves .I am sure they have calculated the opportunity costs of missing the delivery and with very comfortable excuses .
S-Kay :please surf Empire Soho’s website and their brochures, the building structure is exactly per the brochure .Sorry you view point is not right .
Comment by Viking — June 13, 2008 @ 9:10 pm
then the new delivery date is early 2010 now? any reason given on the delay?
the other apartment projects (apart from jana n saujana) alrd ahead on track and tiaraville started selling/renting/renovating. some posters here chided the other prj n look where we r now?
Comment by eksai — June 14, 2008 @ 7:37 am
Just spoke to one of the senior managers at Empire SOHO. Their project is running 24/7, ahead of schedule. Completion will be by the end of the year and handover around Feb 2009. This is what you call exceeding expectations. Lion has a lot to catch up and learn.
Comment by MT — June 15, 2008 @ 12:06 am
Instead of letting the situation goes uncheck .Is there anything we can do to express our displeasure over the snail progres ? Can someone organize a petition or complain letter ? Can Lion Group respond by guarantee the on time delivery of the parcel ???
Comment by Viking — June 15, 2008 @ 12:14 am
Dear All, my source is reliable, its from the insider itself. Lion group will certainly complete the project, but the Question now is ‘WHEN’? And most importanty whether will their in-compliance of building heights jeoprdizing the CF application?
Comment by anchor — June 16, 2008 @ 1:50 pm
anchor, will it be ok for you to confirm whether you are a unit buyer? Otherwise please let know your interest.
Comment by bayutower — June 16, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
Sorry my previous posting was badly phrase.
It should be; in case anchor is not a unit buyer then maybe he should let us know his interest.
Comment by bayutower — June 16, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
Bayutower ,can I question your interest of being so protective of Lion Group ? Is anchor a unit owner / buyer or is not ? It is immaterial. I thank Anchor for the update . The fact remains : will Lion Group completes the
project on time and what will be our loses in term of opportunities costs and other consequential loses if it does not . Instead of being a sitting duck , can we preempt the delay from happening . Last night I heard from the news that the property prices could be increased by at least 30% in mid-level category . We need Lion Group to get the project complete on time without sacrifying any quality . It is that simple . Thanks
Comment by Viking — June 16, 2008 @ 5:02 pm
Viking,
Don’t get exited and emotional. Like you I’m a buyer and like you I don’t want to see the project fail.As I said here b4, according to my S&P agreement the developer has to hand over my unit with CF by Oct.2009, which is still 16 months away. I just visited the site this morning and let me tell you that though the progress appears slow,in my opinion there is still sufficient time. For your information, if the developer can only complete 2 floors per month, they will be on time for me and I will lose my chance of getting a 10% penalty from them. Maybe it’s irrelevent, but let me just said I have more than 30 years in this industry.
Thank you.
Comment by bayutower — June 16, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
2 floors per month.. does it mean the ’skeleton’ or everything including the interior piping, wiring, tiles, walls, painting, etc?
anyway, what are Lion Group other projects? can use as an indicator if they can finish the job.. =)
Comment by eksai — June 16, 2008 @ 6:26 pm
Hi Everyone, I was just passing SR this morning, and noticed that they are putting up the walls on some of the lower units and the protrusion which is part of the washroom seems to have appeared. Although from far it certainly look small.
Comment by KC — June 16, 2008 @ 7:10 pm
Dear All, whether I am a unit buyer or not, its really inmaterial. What most important is I know what is happening within the Project. I certainly do not hope any of you got trapped because of the incompetency of their management. Certainly, i have faith that lion group will complete the project, its just a matter of time. And looks like nobody is really concern about the limit of the building heights which from my source is above what the laws permit. As airplanes are flying above the building, it might caused danger to the residents there.
Comment by anchor — June 19, 2008 @ 9:09 am
if they followed the approved Building Plan, the building height should be approved by MPSJ. I believe both Consplant and Wisma Tractors are built to the maximum height limit.
It should be okay unless of course they changed the building height after BP approval.
Comment by which Administrator — June 19, 2008 @ 9:45 am
Dear All, the MPSJ has been cheated on the actual height by laws
Comment by anchor — June 19, 2008 @ 12:18 pm
If any of you need further clarification, pls leave your email address here so that I can explain to you personally. It is inconvenient for me to explain in details here
Comment by anchor — June 19, 2008 @ 12:22 pm
I just got a letter indicating that SR management is about to apply electrical supply to the premise. Signs of progress perhaps? I saw another floor has been added on top of the existing structure. Snail’s pace but at least it’s moving/doing something.
Comment by KC — June 25, 2008 @ 2:26 pm
Hi guys, I just emailed Simon, the administrator for this forum, with the latest photos of Saujana Residency. I have been taken a lot of photos (every 6 months) and very pleased with the progress. I know it is a slow progress, but I believe it will be worth it. Cheers
Comment by ZN — July 11, 2008 @ 1:24 am
hi guys i’ll post the pics up in a day or two, thanks.
Comment by Administrator — July 11, 2008 @ 10:35 am
Reaffirming what ZN said, it would seem so. I noticed the covered walkway between bayu and suria tower is already constructed and looks pretty good. Suria tower is constructing the 6th floor now and Bayu is on 5th floor.
Comment by KC — July 11, 2008 @ 1:22 pm
For the latest photos of Saujana Residency from ZN, check it out here:
http://propertymalaysia.blogsome.com/2008/07/14/687/
Comment by Administrator — July 14, 2008 @ 11:44 am
Thanks ZN .Good job. Lion group has awaken to the sky rocketing of the building materials prices compounded by the fuel price volatility .If they do not speed up , eventually they will have to pay a price by hurting their own bottom line. Hopefully , we do not sacrify the quality of building .
Has anyone receive notification for next payment on those lower floor yet ? Hope we can take possession by mid 2009 .
Comment by Viking — July 14, 2008 @ 8:13 pm
Hi Guys, please tell me how many floors they have reached now including the parking levels, as I am abroad. I am visiting Malaysia end of next month, so might bring some funds for the next progress payment. I would have thought that all purchasers will get the notification of the next payment at the same time (regardless of which floor you have bought), as in the SMP stated that the next payment is for the concrete framework for the whole building (not your unit). Cheers
Comment by ZN — July 30, 2008 @ 6:09 pm
Hi just received info from my relative with latest photos. Suria tower has now reached 8th floor and Bayu tower, 7th floor. I am just excited. Will post some photos to Simon today.
Comment by ZN — August 7, 2008 @ 10:38 pm
Latest photos of Saujana Residency
http://propertymalaysia.blogsome.com/2008/08/
Comment by ZN — August 10, 2008 @ 6:24 pm
I noticed the 8th floor has been completed and now the 9th floor seems to be under construction. Looks like they woke up finally! Looks like perhaps the middle of 2009 is still a reality=D
Comment by KC — August 18, 2008 @ 5:04 pm
Hi everyone, I have a unit of type-E, 883 square feet on Suria Tower which I am looking to let go. If any of your friends or buddies are interested in taking it up, feel free to drop a note here and I’d be glad to furnish my contact details=)
Admin: Hope you don’t mind me putting this here.
Comment by KC — September 4, 2008 @ 8:32 pm
Hi everyone, my apologies for post no.255. Aparently I was told I need to wait till it’s completed before selling it.=(
Comment by KC — September 4, 2008 @ 11:27 pm
Hi All,
I also do received a letter indicating that SR management is about to apply electrical supply to the premise. I have sorted out everything. Can’t wait for the cheerful moment..
Comment by banq — September 6, 2008 @ 11:33 pm
Hello KC, your “completed before selling” thing - is it stated in S&P or is it a law? Or, is the developer trying to prevent you from selling now because they still have some units unsold?
Comment by RichLock — September 11, 2008 @ 1:08 am
Speaking of unsold units, I called up saujana heights and this was what they have left;
1) 849 sqf –> from $406 000 (available in both towers)
2)1360 sqf –> from $467 000 (1st to 3rd floor in Bayu tower)
3) 1900 sqf –> roun $776 000 (available in both towers)
They definitely have raised prices but their strategy of holding and releasing those units now is coming to bite them back because of the economic slowdown. Well as an owner, i’m happy with the increasing value of my investment thats for sure. Opinions?
Comment by Gill — September 11, 2008 @ 11:06 am
Wow! That’s a HUGE price increase. About 6 months ago when I enquired, they said there were no bigger units left so I am really surprised that they are now offering these.
Am still a bit worried about the late delivery and have just today written to Melissa Liew of Lion Props to enquire as to when they obtained the Building Approval. Will let you know her response.
Comment by Nic — September 12, 2008 @ 5:46 pm
Wow! I’m amazed by the lack of activity/responses for this forum. Are we (Suajana Residency owners) that passive? I see other property forums being so lively with all sorts of debate. Is there another forum that discusses Saujana Residency which I;m not aware of (I couldnt find any)? Please share if there is and we should continue actively discussing topics surrounding S.R.
Comment by Gill — September 19, 2008 @ 5:25 pm
KC, Can you leave your contact details, I have relative who is interested and is willing to wait till completion. Thanks. Or you can call me at 012 601 6130
Comment by Gill — September 19, 2008 @ 5:30 pm
Gill, Did you just realise? I can only guess that SR purchasers are not excited enough about their properties and mind you a lot of them are quite snobbish as well. When I visited the site office a couple of years ago, I said hello to this couple who were about to sign their documents etc, and both of them did not even look at me….SR is quite an upmarket property, so you would expect a lot of the buyers are not really concerned for their future neighbours and personally I don’t think they can care less about this forum.
Well Gill, thank god I am not one of them!
Comment by ZN — September 19, 2008 @ 7:18 pm
I am new to this forum. I have bought one bedroom unit for investment. Can anyone tell me when is the next progess payment due?
Comment by Ahs — September 20, 2008 @ 3:12 pm
Hi Ahs, I would imagine the next progress payment due, would be somewhere early next year, because if you look at your S&P docs, developer must completed the concrete framework of the whole building first. At the moment, both towers have reached only 10th floor, so still another half way to go. Cheers.
Comment by ZN — September 20, 2008 @ 5:38 pm
I thought it’s ” complete the concrete framework to your PARCEL ” ?
So depending on where your unit is located, you may be billed at different time le.
Comment by bayutower — September 21, 2008 @ 9:36 am
You are right, bayutower. I just checked again my S&P. Luckly my unit is somewhere on the top floor. So for me, it is still half way, not for some others. Sorry.
Comment by ZN — September 21, 2008 @ 6:40 pm
Hi ZN, well I guess it’s up to us to keep this forum lively then. By the way, I live in SS 12 (near SJMC) so i get a daily update on how the work is in progress during my daily commute to work. So far, it’s looking good and I really don’t think they’ll have a problem with delivering it on time.
Comment by Gill — September 24, 2008 @ 11:25 am
Thanks Gill. Sounds good. I live in London but I have been back to see Saujana Residency earlier this month. I took a lot of photos with me. Must be nice to be able to see the progress everyday.Regards.
Comment by ZN — September 24, 2008 @ 6:13 pm
Hi, all the late comers to this blog:
There are a few of us -the early birds paticipating from the very beginning and eventually we have dropped off due to many reasons . Please go through from day one . Gill/ZN where are you when we started ??
But I still think that we are much more active than lots of other projects .
I am currently involved in another condo where the JMC are in disarray in-fighting for personal interest rather than managing the property through the BCP Act 2003. May be some of us should consider starting the ball rolling on forming a shadow JMC to check the progress of the construction. Get yourselves familiar with the BCP Act and see what can you contribute. However , this is a thankless assignment , some unkind souls will think that you must have some motives to be involved and they will criticise you for not delivering what they are expecting from a position of “wait and see” and bystanders /onlooker .Some just love to crticize from the haven and look all mighty and do absolutely nothing .
Welcome to the very very realistic world . Happy
Comment by Viking — September 30, 2008 @ 10:30 pm
Hi Viking,
Yep i went through the forum postings but it seems that the lively debate/discussions tapered off lately. I only bought a unit early this year, so you can consider me a late-bird. Well I will start fimiliarizing myself with the BCP Act before embarking on the thankless tasks
By the way, I found this review on S.R. which was posted 2 weeks ago (eventho i don’t entirely agree with the author’s opinions)
Comment by Gill — October 3, 2008 @ 9:12 am
Sorry, forgot to paste the link for the review. Here it is http://investorsanonymous.blogspot.com/2008/09/saujana-residency-subang-jaya.html
Comment by Gill — October 3, 2008 @ 9:14 am
Sorry, forgot to paste the link for the review. Here it is
http://investorsanonymous.blogspot.com/2008/09/saujana-residency-subang-jaya.html
Comment by Gill — October 3, 2008 @ 9:15 am
Hello guys, i’m new here. I bought an unit in Bayu. May i know roughly when it’s gonna be ready? And usually how long does it take to get the key upon completion? Thank you so much.
Comment by sly — October 8, 2008 @ 12:25 pm
hi guys, just found tis blog…..nice to meet u all. hopefully when the hse ready we can hv a drink as neighbors….keep in touch….cheers!!!!!
Comment by akira — October 10, 2008 @ 4:07 pm
anyone know the difference between red bricks and grey? noticed that Saujana using red bricks but the development next to it is using grey bricks…
Comment by meridien — October 13, 2008 @ 10:16 am
red bricks = clay bricks
grey bricks = cement sand bricks
red bricks are definitely better and more expensive.
Comment by Administrator — October 13, 2008 @ 10:21 am
yay
Comment by meridien — October 13, 2008 @ 6:40 pm
I wonder what investorsanonymous had to say about Tiaraville as it is so much closer to the cables than us. Besides, he probably isn’t from Subanng to know that there are 2-3 exit points from the ss16/1 stretch once the roadworks complete:
1. Straight right down Wisma Consplant to Fed Highway for those who wants to go to NKVE/Federal
2. Middle route at KTM to get to the AZRB flyover once completed. Direct access to NKVE
3. All the way pass KTM out to AZRB or to NPE if they decide to make it two-way (hardly pass that route so I’m not sure how the roadworks is like there now)
The good thing is, I don’t have to go through the sickening jam to get into USJ from Fed/NPE/NKVE next time which takes at least 15 minutes of my time.
But of course, the concern is still the road and illegal parking and if the Putraline thing materializes. Oh boy.
Comment by S-Kay — October 14, 2008 @ 9:52 pm
Clay brick also known as common brick, is manufactured through a firing process in a high temperature kiln. It has a much better fire resistance then the cement sand brick. Not all sand brick satisfy the fire rating required by a fire wall.
Comment by WenChang — October 15, 2008 @ 10:23 am
That is also why all party walls (the dividing wall between two different units in landed homes and condos) are required to use clay bricks in Malaysia.
Comment by Administrator — October 15, 2008 @ 10:46 am
For rental wise? How much you think a 849psf saujana can fetch? anyone have answer on roughly when is the completion date? Thanks…
Comment by sly — October 15, 2008 @ 11:54 am
my guess would be end 2009. they have reached the 12th floor, about 2 months back,they were on the 9th floor. that means about 3 floors in 2 months. Another 7 floors means at least 5 more months, add 6 months for finishing work brings us to Sept ‘09 at the minimum
Comment by meridien — October 15, 2008 @ 5:28 pm
hi meridien…thanks for taking time to reply me…
Comment by sly — October 16, 2008 @ 12:29 pm
referring to my comments from no. 225 onwards regarding the DCA heights, if you guys dun bother to check it out, it would be a hefty lessons for you all, especially those buyers 4 floors below the top roof!!!
Comment by anchor — October 21, 2008 @ 5:23 pm
anyone know the total building height for Saujana?
Comment by meridien — October 21, 2008 @ 6:36 pm
dear anchor
can explain more???
Comment by akira — October 22, 2008 @ 5:56 pm
The total building height according to my source is 100.58m…you can check within the vicinity, i.e. Wisma Consplant, Tractors, Empire Subang, etc (except for titijaya- cos their project is outside of flight path), all are at the range of 88m-90m. You all may check with the Department of Aviation at Putrajaya for more information. I am damn sure that saujana residency not able to obtain approval for height exceeding the range.
Comment by anchor — October 23, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
Anchor,
I hope you know what you are talking about and not make a fool of yourself here.
When completed, sj will be slightly lower than empire. Please check your facts before making wild claims.
Seriously I don’t believe you are a good samaritan.
Comment by bayutower — October 23, 2008 @ 3:16 pm
guys,
assuming wut was claimed is true. wut will happened then??? wont be able to get CF or wut……any indication on the worst scenario
cheers
Comment by akira — October 23, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
why don’t you guys go to MPSJ and ask to see the approved Building Plans?
Comment by Administrator — October 23, 2008 @ 5:02 pm
If what was claimed is true, then obviously cannot get CF.
That mean no CF for the whole project and not just the top 4 floors. What a joke !
Comment by bayutower — October 23, 2008 @ 5:47 pm
Allow me to further add that while we should not bury our heads in the sand, the least we need are bad press and unsubstantiated claims and rumour.
Comment by bayutower — October 23, 2008 @ 5:59 pm
Well guys, I am in this industry for about 10 years, off course I know what I am talking about!! If you all dun believe, go to Planning Department, MPSJ and check. You will noticed that the DCA approval they have is year 2004 and there is no mention about the saujana lot, only subang parade lot number! What will happened if somebody go complaint to ACA, you guys think for yourself!
Comment by anchor — October 24, 2008 @ 12:02 pm
Hi, I am new to this blog. Just discovered by chance. I am a foriegner and saujana residency purchaser as well. Quite scary if anchor was telling the truth. Can someone who lives nearby the MPSJ, please call in and find out. We need to get to the bottom of this as soon as possible. Thank you.
Comment by harris — October 24, 2008 @ 8:08 pm
hi,
agree wit harris. would appreciate if someone can really clear the doubt behind the issue.
Comment by akira — October 28, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
hi anchor…i would love to know more too…kindly elaborate more or email me at saulun@hotmail.com…thanks….
Comment by sly — October 28, 2008 @ 3:31 pm
Hi everyone, should we check with housing ministry first to get a clearer picture on this DCA issue? Anyone kind enough to share advices? Thanks
Comment by sly — October 30, 2008 @ 10:37 am
Any news on the height approval thing anchor raised?! Did anyone check with MPSJ? I bought a unit too and will be pretty screwed up if it’s not approved!
Comment by Jocelyn — October 31, 2008 @ 8:09 am
an alternative would be to wait until the full framework of the building is completed in say 3 to 4 months time, then eyeball the height and compare it against empire
Comment by meridien — October 31, 2008 @ 12:25 pm
why wait for 4 months? don’t you guys rather know the truth now? could someone find out?
Comment by sam — October 31, 2008 @ 9:34 pm
hi all, please please please find out with mpsj as soon as possible. i am not in malaysia and probably only be there feb next year. i am very concerned. regards.
Comment by harris — November 2, 2008 @ 7:54 am
i could be totally wrong here, but was observing the height of empire (framework completed) vs Saujana (now at 14th/15th floor). It seems to me that another 5 more floors would still be below Empire. If this is true, then a) either both of us are ok, or b) someone better break the bad news to Empire buyers as well
Comment by meridien — November 3, 2008 @ 9:36 am
Hi everyone,
John has sent me some excellent pics that may be interesting for you guys to study:
http://propertymalaysia.blogsome.com/2008/11/03/saujana-residency-shorter-than-empire/
Comment by Administrator — November 3, 2008 @ 1:16 pm
good to hear that…thanks admin for the link…
Comment by sly — November 3, 2008 @ 2:48 pm
Gents,
Let’s not get all worried bcos of what Anchor said. Thus far he has not provided a single shred of evidence or circumstances to prove his claims. Meantime, just relax and savour the now speeded up building progress.
Comment by Mark — November 4, 2008 @ 1:24 pm
Do not be so ignorance about my claim my dear friends, we do not know whether Empire had exceeded the limitation in height, BUT, certainly Saujana Residency do not have DCA approval. AND, if they do have, their maximum height is below 100m ASL. Just call DCA at Putrajaya and ask to talk to En Nordian, you will be surprise that they do not have records of Saujana Residency approval letter!
Comment by anchor — November 10, 2008 @ 9:29 am
Anchor,
If you are not a purchaser, whether SR has DCA approval or not is the least of your worries. However I’m sure the forumers here will appreciate it if you can be more specific where exactly is the problem. And taking your 100m ASL as the truth, the land at SR is approx 35m. Another 65m gives you about 20 storeys. Wouldn’t that be about right? Maybe instead of asking us to check with the authorities, have you posed your questions to the developer and what did they say? I’m sure many here would love to know,including me.
Comment by Mark — November 10, 2008 @ 3:43 pm
Hi all, I am a buyer of the 3+1 unit in Suria Block .I am one of those earlier bird who feel frustrated , thus lately not so active in the blog .
Anchor is trying to be helpful and may be of his situation , he can not do much and can only provide you information . Why are you guy so angry with him . Why do you have to so nasty .Why can’t you guy be nice to people who want to help .Have you involved in fixing the issue after the Property developer hand over the parcel to you and take you 15 years and yet no strata title .The BCP Act is so badly written that you need both COB and Ministry of Housing to fight for the right intepretation of law .I am facing such situation now .
If you care about the approval status , then call DCA to find out , he has given you the name . Why should you guy be so nasty . Cool yourself down.
Comment by viking — November 11, 2008 @ 8:07 am
hi viking,
would u be kind to elaborate ur concern via email to me (sazzalee@estar-asia.com). interested to knows the prob tat troubles u. appreciated if u can explain in a simple terms as not really familiar the act due to tis is my 1st hse purchase.
thx,
cheers.
Comment by akira — November 11, 2008 @ 11:03 am
Hi,
I understand that the proposed LRT station will run in parallel with SR - not exactly sure how the track will be built.
http://www.mmail.com.my/Subang_LRT_work_to_start_next_year.aspx
Any comments how this will affect the surroundings of SR, in particular road access and noise level?
Comment by Nick — November 11, 2008 @ 2:11 pm
I don’t understand why they can’t build the track between Carrefour and Subang Parade (same distance with proposed line route). Why must they run it parallel to SR? It’s ridiculous. The place is already congested as it is. With Empire SOHO (offices) coming up, the ss16/1 stretch will be clogged up with cars. Instead of building the freaking track, they should fix the road issues first.
Comment by S-Kay — November 11, 2008 @ 11:53 pm
The LRT route is not confirmed yet - there will be a public hearing sometime soon to get feedback from residents, so there’s a chance to voice any concerns.
Comment by meridien — November 12, 2008 @ 10:39 am
I would suggest we attend the public hearing when they call one.Someone has to highlight all of us when the time comes.
I live in Hong Kong for six years just beside the MRT line.
Hong Kong Government is very people friendly and I love the convenience . We have air-conditioned cover passageway from terminal to my block of 45 floor apartment . The environment is well protected.
Would suggest to have the LRT go underground to avoid the noise pollution or Covered elevated tunnel.The Suband LRT terminal and KTM Terminal should be housed in a modern structure to enhance the aesthetic look with a public square and a huge car park complex - multi-floor and / or underground .What I am afraid that it will be elevated structure with no cover (tunnel)and it will realy give us the noise pollutionn and spoil the environment.
Can we work with Hanna Yeoh of Pakatan ? Please refer to my early input while working with Datuk Lee Hwa Beng who is no longer involved . I have talked about Subang Boulevard to beautify the entire stretch . Wonder Hanna Yeoh is awared of that and willing to assist .
Comment by viking — November 12, 2008 @ 11:27 am
I agree with S-Kay that the LRT track should run between Carrefour and Subang Parade instead of in front of the highly residential Saujana and Empire Subang. The other thing I can’t comprehend is why have the LRT Subang station at the other side of Federal Highway. Viking is absolutely right that LRT and KTM terminals should be housed in one single structure (at the present KTM terminal site). We should all come together and strongly voice our concerns at the next public hearing.
Comment by Cobra — November 12, 2008 @ 5:01 pm
I’m not always updated but anyone who has news on the public hearing in future, please update at least a few days before or something. I will definitely turn up. It’s just ridiculous the idea of the track. Should just get it out of our stretch as they definitely would not spend a single cent extra to dig the ground or do a covered elevated tunnel.
Comment by S-Kay — November 12, 2008 @ 5:26 pm
doubt it can run between parade n carrefour. if u noticed the construction, it will run until ss14. to run between parade n carrefour, they have nowhere else to go but to make 2 turns (1 between parade n carrefour, 1 between parade n mosque leading to ss14) - there’s not enuff space in turn 1. it would easier to have the connection straight to ss14 from cosplant.
but from the article, they will take into ‘consideration’ residents’ feedback. not necessary they will head their feedback - as this project is for the benefit of the majority. hannah mentioned b4 “every1 for this lrt track - but no1 wans it to be near their house”. u can’t please everyone. my worry is saujana is mainly surrounded by glass rite? the vibration is going to do a lot of damage there.a
Comment by eksai — November 14, 2008 @ 11:42 pm
Hi guys, did any one received next payment notice which is 15% progress payment?
Comment by AHS — November 18, 2008 @ 3:45 pm
The 15% payment? Yeap, received mine the week after Raya.
It goes by floor
Comment by Jocelyn — November 19, 2008 @ 8:07 am
Thanks Jocelyn, mine is at 14th floor, so I will be receiving it soon, I guest.
Comment by AHS — November 19, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
Mine is on 13 floor (3+1)at Suria block . Currently I am living in Petaling Jaya and the notice was sent to my Malacca home on Oct 30, 2008 (my fault).I just come to know bout it today. Thus I have missed the dateline on payment.
I passed the site at about 6.30 PM today(Nov 19) , they have hasten the construction. It is at 15 to 16 floor . It looks good from the Federal Highway. They have 4 to 5 floors to go , wonders can they deliver our parcels by mid 2009. In addition , we have to worry about the elevated LRT line just about the same level as 3/4th Floor along the KTM line . Can we organize meeting among the Suajana Residency buyers and the rest of project buyers along the Subang KTM station / line until Empire Soho to protect our interest . We must have over a few thousands buyers . There again , who has the time to organize ? Can we just show up at the public review meeting to see what we can do ?
Next suggestion ,please read up the BCP Act about the Building maintenance and the rights of the buyers . We need to form the Joint Management Board (JMB) before the strata title issuance. There is alot of interesting discovery in this not so well written law. Thanks
Comment by viking — November 19, 2008 @ 11:37 pm
I am a regular user of the LRT. I would like to have the LRT lines right in front of the SR, as near as possible. More connivence.
Comment by wenchang — November 20, 2008 @ 8:27 pm
the lrt station will be near the ktm komuter station. doesn’t matter if the lrt lines are not in front of SR - you can’t just jump onto the lrt even if it is
Comment by meridien — November 20, 2008 @ 10:16 pm
No, I dont want it close to SR!! I know how it’s like and trust me, it’s not at all good.. sound of the train passing by every 3 mins is a torment! But then again, i sorta got use to it already..
i know i’m talking non-sense.. haha
And why can’t they just upgrade KTM (who actually uses KTM??)to LRT and extend it to ss14 without passing by SR?
Viking, your suggestion is all good but like you said, who are going to have the time to organise it?
And also, where can i get the BCP Act?
Comment by Jocelyn — November 21, 2008 @ 10:25 am
No, I don’t want it close to SR!! I know how it’s like and trust me, it’s not at all good - sound of train passing by every 3 mins is a torment, especially weekend mornings when you wanna sleep in!
And I dun understand why cant they update KTM to Star LRT and just extend it to ss14?
Viking, your suggestion is all good but like you mentioned, who is willing to volunteer themselves??
Comment by Jocelyn — November 21, 2008 @ 10:31 am
ops.. i meant UPGRADE not update LOL
Comment by Jocelyn — November 21, 2008 @ 10:32 am
OMG i thought my first message failed, but it went through..
Comment by Jocelyn — November 21, 2008 @ 10:35 am
Dear Adminstrator ,
Can you post the BCP Act to this blog allowing all Buyers
to have a full understanding of the act.
Comment by viking — November 21, 2008 @ 7:18 pm
All,
I spoke to Lillian of Saujana Height S/B earlier today about the requirement of DCA approval as highlighted by Anchor. She was positive and confident that the project had obtained all the necessary approvals from the Authorities. In fact, she claimed this is the 1st time somebody called up to ask about the DCA approval.
She claimed she had no ideas what is the concern raised by Anchor and of the view that Anchor should write to Saujana Height to clarify if he/she is a Purchaser of SR.
May be Anchor should at least confirm that he is indeed a Purchaser and be more specific about the issue.
Comment by Outsider — November 25, 2008 @ 6:55 pm
Hi Outsider ,
Is this blog must be participated by purchasers only ?
Is there a law preventing outsider to be a whistle blower ? Can you Outsider qualify yourself as purchaser as you are using the name outsider. How do we validate you are indeed a purchaser . Is there a necessity to do so? I have never met Anchor , but I appreciate his courage to highlight the problems. Why are you instead of addressing the problems point the finger to Anchor ? Is Lilian senior enough in Lion Group to provide the correct answer ? Will Lion Group permit her to provide information to the public and subject to further repercussion if she is not telling the truth or not aware of the fact .Why didn’t Lion Group come up and clear the air . Anchor has spoken , and why should he subject to constant harassment from some of you .Please re-direct all you energy to the possible issue . If not just leave Abchor alone .
I have qulaified myself many times that I am a purchaser. But does this qualified me to be treated specially ? Should I feel different and behave very high amd mighty that I am a purchaser ?
Comment by viking — November 26, 2008 @ 1:43 pm
Viking,
I felt you got carried away. From my reading, all Anchor did was spilling his fears without basis for reasons best known to himself. Obviously he had not even approach the developer about his perceived problem. And this is not the only forum he is doing it. If you ask me, I say we just ignore him.
Comment by Zeney — November 26, 2008 @ 2:06 pm
Hi Viking,
I don’t know what is your problem. I am a Purchaser and was trying to be helpful with the concern and for your information, this is the FIRST time that I responded to the issue repeatedly raised by Anchor.
Comment by Outsider — November 26, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
Hi Viking,
Thanks for what you have said on behalf of me. I really appreciate it. Frankly, i am not a Purchaser of SR. I know Lilian. She wouldn’t have the enough information/ authority to confirm that all approvals are in order. I am just raising my concern over as the Subang Airport will eventually be in full operational mode in future. If DCA approval is not in accordance with the gazetted height, accidents might happens. This is only my concern, I didnt mean to put up a hoax to all of you. I am damn sure that there is no DCA approval for this! Unless now MPSJ says no need DCA, then its ok. Somebody go check and ask for proof, NOT just verbal confirmation!
Comment by ANCHOR — November 26, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
Viking,
You seem to have a lot of questions, why don’t you just pick up your phone and speak to whoever you like at Lion and all the Authorities. I don’t expect a “thank you” from anyone for trying to be helpful but I certainly didn’t expect crap from you.
Comment by Outsider — November 26, 2008 @ 5:02 pm
Man, you guys are crazy….
Everyone talks about DCA and housing act.
What i think is what ever info provided here no legal binding at all
I am also a buyer, come on your guys need to take some risk here (this is Msia,wake up)
Comment by Ng — November 26, 2008 @ 6:42 pm
Thanks Outsider, I think Viking and Anchor should get together or create their own forum. I certainly had enough reading about their comments.
Comment by Harris — November 26, 2008 @ 9:37 pm
hey a show of hands who’s buying for own stay vs investment? i’m planning to stay
Comment by meridien — November 26, 2008 @ 10:54 pm
I have spoke my mine . ANCHOR has a valid opinion and a real potential issue . Do not just talk , act please if you are worry . If you are afraid of the situation, pick up the phone and call some authorities to find out . This blog is not reserve for some individual only .Everyone can participate . There are lots of crap anyway . Thanks for the crap.
Comment by viking — November 27, 2008 @ 12:33 am
The whole episode of DCA approval can and should be laid to rest by the developer of SR once and for all. Either what Anchor alleged is true and the developer/Lion Group agrees or the latter does not bother to clarify this matter. This is a threat to our investments! True or false, this type of talks can bring down the value of SR. If it is true that no DCA approval has been given, the developer should let us know what they are going to do to get approval. If it is false and as Lilian said “the developer has all the necessary approvals”, the developer should charge Anchor for rumor-mongering.
Comment by RichLock — November 27, 2008 @ 1:15 am
One hand from me - I bought for my own stay~!
Comment by Jocelyn — November 27, 2008 @ 9:26 am
Dear Anchor and Viking and all future neighbours of SR,
My sister bought a unit at SR and my family is happy with the purchase and looking forward to getting the key. When I read all these ding-dongs on the DCA issue, I find it has been really blown out of proportion. I, myself, is working with a major developer in town, but not the Lion Group, and I really feel for this Lilian, whoever she is in the Lion Group. We are now not just questioning or ‘arguing’ about this ‘DCA’ issue but the integrity of the company has come into question as well. I believe we should all dwell deeper into this matter by analysing a few facts. Firstly, why should a conglomerate of this size jeopardize its name by doing something ‘illegal’ such as building a property and selling to the public without full approvals from the authorities, and eventually facing dire repercussions when they are not able to deliver the units on time ? Secondly, as to why they did not step out to clarify this matter ~ why should they ? It has not been officially brought to their attention and even if it had been, let just say, if one of us as purchasers were to write to them, they would officially reply in written confirmation that all is well since approval has been obtained prior to the start of construction, (as confirmed by Lilian to Outsider). Anyway, the developer shouldn’t be spending their time and manpower concentrating on such small trivial matter but to really focus on doing a good job in building our future abode and deliver it to us on time as promised. Having said that, with ‘Outsider’ calling the company to find out about this matter has somewhat given an opportunity for the developer to answer this ‘raging’ question here on the DCA, which they have confidently replied that all relevant approvals have been obtained. So, why are we harping on this issue when Outsider has done all of us a favour by clearing the air with the developer? Infact, I must thank Outsider for being braved enough to call them for a clarification and generous enough to share it with us on this blog. I believe the developer is in no fault when it comes to this DCA issue. Just so you know how trusting my family is with this developer especially with me being in the same industry hence we are very careful and selective in our purchases and investments, my brother in law had recently purchased a unit worth RM 1.43 million at their project in Damansara called Twins @ Damansara Heights and we are all happy about it, the developer and its staff have been gracious and professional in all their dealings with us. Which brings me back to Lilian, who was unfortunate enough to received Outsider’s call on this issue. I wonder if those who are reading this blog realised that we have been unconciously questioning Lilian’s integrity and sincerity as well? What did she do wrong other than answering confidently that all is well ? I wonder how she must be feeling if she were to come across this blog and see her name in it and with such BIG QUESTION mark on her credibility ! Sigh, so sad for her. Again, being with a developer for so many years, I think Lilian, irregardless of her position with the company, would have been given enough empowerment to answer such trivial matter. I would understand firsthand, that misrepresenting false info to the public is a grave grave error in our line of duty which can cause one to lose their job, and I am sure that Lilian is aware of this mantra and would not be so bold to fight with her own ricebowl when she knows very well that her name is on the line! Of course, giving a benefit of a doubt, Anchor could be right but us being the purchasers, who I think must have thought long and hard before making a rather sound commitment in purchasing a unit worth around half Million Ringgit, would have consider the background of the company prior to signing on the dotted line. Yes, what we are doing here is protecting our rights and property but should we not try to give a little trust to the developer and start looking forward to the day we receive the keys ? Anyway, if they are really in the wrong, then, I think it will not be too late to make the developer pay when they are not able to deliver as per the agreement. Imagine… hundreds of very disappointed and very very irate purchasers knocking down their door and heaps of condemning legal letters threaten to take legal actions at their doorsteps… . I wonder which silly big ol’ developer would want to face this risk and scenario is beyond my imagination…. So, my fellow future neighbours, cut the developer some slack now, chew them if you must only when they are not able to deliver as promised. What do you say, all wise ones ?
Comment by Olivia Lee — November 27, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
Wow..I totally agree with you Olivia! I did consulted my dad (my dad is in construction line and knows Lion Group well) on the DCA matter raised by Anchor, he thought it was a silly question to be asking! If Lion Group did not obtain approval, they can’t start construction, Lion Group won’t be that foolish to put their company in rish and build without approval, that was my dad’s comment. And to their earlier concern over the slow progress, my dad explained that it was due to the rising price of steel before the olympics that lion group choose to take their sweet time given they are confident that they are able to complete it on time they do not want to rush the construction. And true enough, they speed up after the olympics! I’m confident that they will deliver on time without any hassle on the DCA!
Comment by Jocelyn — November 27, 2008 @ 4:27 pm
Hi Jocelyn,
Glad that you agree. Really, it pretty upsetting to see some of us getting so riled up over this matter. Why get upset and agitated when all we have to do is to sit back and relax, just wait for the day to get our keys. There’s an old chinese proverb that says “When the ship reaches the port, it will straighten itself naturally”, so I just want to assure my fellow neighbours that it’s not so bad as it seemed. Just so you know, a developer would have a construction timeline to follow which will prepare them for each different stage of construction development. Some stage could be extremely fast and some really really slow, but eventually all will catch up in time for delivery as promised, and of course, the timeline defers from project to project. Also, it’s funny to see all these comments on the Lion Group being in the steel business hence, is able to control the price of steel for their development. The truth ? Normally, a main contractor is engaged to build the project, and this main contractor is not obligated to buy steel from The Lion Group per se. And all these contracted rates are agreed upon the onset of the project, not when they will be delivering next year and they only start talking about the building costs now. And, as I’ve read in the earlier posted blogs here, the project has reached 80% sale, most of the time, a project would have broken even when it reaches 70%, so why worry, just be happy, my fellow neighbours!
Comment by Olivia Lee — November 27, 2008 @ 5:47 pm
Wow!
That was a mouth full Olivia, a pleasant one though.
I’m glad that so many have shared their views on the subjects. Lest I was accused of being a stooge and defender of the developer, I had refrained from making further postings after my last posting in October 23, 2008 @ 5:59 pm. Following that I had in fact raised these issues with the architect in charge and she confirmed that all approvals were obtained before physical work commenced.
It is pertinent to note BEP as an awards winning architecture firms, will be both silly and negligent not to protect their reputation judiciously.
The internet as a very useful tool is also very dangerous if misused.
Comment by bayutower — November 27, 2008 @ 5:53 pm
Hi Bayutower,
That’s the problem with me, can’t seem to stop once I’ve started! Yes, I totally agree with you, I’ve worked with BEP and they are definitely a highly responsible and principled architecture firm, no messing around with these guys !
Comment by Olivia Lee — November 27, 2008 @ 5:59 pm
I have received a response from Saujana Height S/B. I am reasonably satisfied with the clarification as well as their assurance. Cheers!
Comment by Outsider — November 27, 2008 @ 6:12 pm
Hence. the reason why I don’t even bother posting here anymore as there are a fraction of comments that are blown way beyond any for of reasonableness by some buyers/non-buyers.
The reason why we were willing to invest in a half a million unit is due to the fact that Lion Group is a trusted developer and has had proven track record and especially when we saw that BEP was being engaged by them.
Seriously, we all should just have some logic check done first before rambling on nonsensically here. I would really prefer more reasonable neighbours than those who blow things out of proportion by just listening to someone else and not confiding the relevant/responsible parties
Comment by S-Kay — November 27, 2008 @ 10:43 pm
Wow,what is an egocentric group you have in saujana Residency .Very interesting . BN was so sure of landslide on the Mar 08 tsunami. Very few expected the financial meltdown started from USA as it is a very powerful and rich country . Lion Group and BEP can be reputatable but like USA and BN they too can made serious mistakes . Then what happened ? You said you know them , how about those are currently work in these organizations , found out the problem and voice out what they know but couldnot reveal their identity ???.You label them haven’t check with the right parties . You are A.S.S.U.M.E.
It also looks like some of you are very egocentric showing off that your are rich - half a mil or over 1 mil ;working in big developer firm . Someone have told me that if you know how much you have , then you are not rich . The why show off ? Some of you should have chosen the West to live not Saujana Residency as there will be many who will continue to goes again the tide and willing to blow the whistle not to your liking which you think is nonsensical .Don’t belittle your neighbours .They may be much richer than you and purer than you . They can be much knowledgeable than you .May be you are very bad neighbours to them .
Don’t be naive that a reputable organization can be trusted . A court can have very seriously wrong judgment and a reputable lawyer before taken up your case will ensure that he will win your case . This is a free world , let people voice their opinions. If you think you are rich and you are suitable to be in Mont Kiara and Damansara Height , move there . Let people like us with a mixture of colour live happily in a condo next to highway , high tension power line , KTM and LRT lines and a wonderful mix of human being who just want to speak up .All these sound like Saujana is not a rich man / pure man’s place. I spent lots of time in New York . I was always greeted by afro-american : Freedom brother , whenever I walk down the 42nd street .
Be free and allow other to voice out and don’t belittle them . A professor once told me : the more you think you know , then more you do not know .
Freedom brothers and sisters , let the free world prevail.
Comment by egocentric — November 28, 2008 @ 7:38 am
egocentric,
May be you should keep all your monies under your pillow, that’s probably will make you feel more secured and safer. And that is a freedom too.
Comment by Outsider — November 28, 2008 @ 8:40 am
Hmmmm….. I got a feeling Egocentric is hinting about me… well, if it’s me you’re talking about…then, YES, my family is rich, but then again, that MY problem, not YOURS. Here you are talking about freedom, but then you contradict yourself by asking me to stay in Damansara and leave Saujana alone for NICE people, maybe, like you. Why ? I am curious ? What type of Freedom are you preaching about ? What has buying a property has to do with racism, or the amount of greenbacks lining my pocket? Yes, I LOVE throwing my weight around being rich, and of course, you are so humble , that you only hint a few lines that you’ve well-travelled, stayed in cosmopolitan cities like New York Manhattan and quote Professors to indicate how well-educated you are. well, I do agree with you on one thing, no, two things though… the more you think you know, then the more you don’t know ; and your pseudonym do suits you very well. And to the rest of my dear dear neighbours, obviously I am not welcome to stay at Saujana, so I will just take myself off to Damansara and forget what I’ve said in my previous entries, it seems when you are rich, whatever you say holds no water. Again, another sad story. Sigh…
Comment by Olivia Lee — November 28, 2008 @ 9:02 am
egocentric,
Where you keep your money or what you do with your life is non of my business and I could not be bothered with that as well.
If you have problems with Lion or experience sleepless nights with this investment, please go ahead and check with the relevant authorities. Nobody is stopping you. Period. Please please go ahead.
Comment by Outsider — November 28, 2008 @ 11:01 am
Yep, Rich but got to work… really pitiful
Yep again, thankful that family is rich, at least in these bad times, can still shop at Prada, Channel and Hermes …. really interesting.
Nobody wants my type of life!! It is totally horrendously horrible!
Anyway, it’s my life, got to live with it. But thank you very much for your kind words and refreshing point of view… must appreciated. I learn new stuff about people every day.
Hang on, WHY am I going on and on with people like you ? You are too far out of my league.
Comment by Olivia Lee — November 28, 2008 @ 11:15 am
Oh dear god, this site has turn into a war field! People, please stop..
Comment by Jocelyn — November 28, 2008 @ 3:54 pm
Dear Olivia,
You could be richie rich but it doesn’t make sense if you keep bragging about your financial capabilities. That will only make you sound like a shallow snob. Don’t abuse this forum by bragging about how much you have.
Stay focused on what this forum is all about. We don’t care how rich you are. There will always be someone ‘richer’ in many other ways(without shopping at Prada, Channel, Hermes…etc) at the end of the day.
Comment by Otto — November 28, 2008 @ 4:13 pm
Dear All,
Like Jocelyn said, stop it. The DCA matter should now be laid to rest unless someone can proof to the contrary. I assumed satisfied Outsider received the answer he is hoping for - that all permits are in order. If anyone has any more doubts, please direct it to the developer and stop taunting everyone else here.
Btw the initial delays to the construction was due to some problems between the Maincon with the foundation contractor. Work got speeded up after that was sorted, so I was advised.
Anyone knows what happened to the Subang Walk project since Mr HB Lee is no more involved. Hannah Yeoh?
Comment by Mark — November 28, 2008 @ 4:25 pm
Hannah has a blog http://hannahyeoh.blogspot.com/
haven’t heard anything about the subang walk project though.
Interesting observation, there was an advert in The Star sometime last week for Impian Meridian. In that advert they showed the Subang LRT route as not passing SR, instead going by Tiaraville before heading down between SS 12 and SS15 towards Summit. Wonder if there’s any truth to that route….
Comment by meridien — November 28, 2008 @ 8:42 pm
Hallo ladies & gentlemen, this could be my last statement here since my doubt with the DCA approval did not actually get verified with the correct parties. Olivia, your statement is certainly correct that one well-known developer wouldn’t jeopardize their name and do such thing! Imagine this, there is this Manager of the Project didnt realise that the DCA approval used to obtain approval is not about the saujana residency’s lot, BUT, it is the Subang Parade lot and the approval is dated 2004! It is just purely LUCK that the authorities OVERLOOKED or PURPOSELY OVERLOOKED (that is a big question mark)! And, to protect his ricebowl, he kept it under his pillow. Think people! I am trying to said that there is a person/ or a group of person trying to hide the TRUTH! I am here just to help, I didnt gain anything or lose anything from this question that I have been raising all the while. I shall put a stop to this now! Believe it or not, it means nothing to me.
Comment by ANCHOR — November 29, 2008 @ 12:07 am
I have personally view the letter at MPSJ Planning Department. For those require such confirmation can do so. Although I have view the relevant letter, I shall not scan or paste it here…as I am nobody to the developent!
Comment by ANCHOR — November 29, 2008 @ 12:10 am
Dear all,
Do not ignore Anchor’s input . Some of the people whom know the situation but due to certain situation could not make known who they are. Big operations make silly mistake . Please go and check with MPSJ .
The ball is in your court not Anchor . You will not regret it
Comment by SR 256 — November 29, 2008 @ 12:41 am
A actual live case : There is a seaside resort launched in 1992 sold at RM 269/sq ft. A very high end(565 units sold to local and over 50% are foreign buyers -institutions and individual ) at that time outside of KL .Project was a joint venture with State Government , and sold out within 14 days .Similar situation happened (but not the height of DCA rules ). They used the very best surveyor from KL and violated most of the local law for seafront development .The local devloper was a very reputable and very popular .I know him personally. They could start and complete the project and being issued a Certificate of Fitness and then operate a hotel with 565 rooms units because of state government partnership. We are so confident that this ‘D’ project we want to own .Most buyers leased back the untis and were very happy for the first three years. There were no strata titles been issued . Come 1997, this reputable developer crashed out and Danaharta took over and 5 years later sold to another hotel operators(those units owned by developer -over 150 units )
Then there is a change in Chief Minister and Ministry of housing tighten the control . The project did not qualified for strata title until they made right the wrongs . and the property value dropped by 50% . We cannot take any legal redress as it was taken over by Danaharta .
Looking at the current situation: Global financial meltdown and there could be another round of business consoliation . Pakatan Rakyat may continue to rule Selangor and want to stick to the local and federal laws .What will happen ?
As a buyer , I lost 50% of the value and there is still no Strata Title after 15 years . We have difficulty to sell and current there is war inside the Joint Management Board to gain control as there are opportunies .
Please use this mirror for Saujana Project . The developer could be reputable, but the downline people may have overlooked some key point and the MPSJ may have overlooked the very same issue .
Anchor blows the whistle to help us . Some of the people who know the problems find difficuty in getting the message across as they could know the developer very well or are currently working inside the company. Anchor can shut up .Eventually the SR buyers are the losers not him .All your arguments thus far are just all assumptions and hypothetical . Why don’t some of you just go to MPSJ to check it out . Due to certain very sensitive situation , some of us can not do it . It is up to you to accept it or not . Just like Anchor , I will not talk about it anymore.
You can blow me up just the Rich girl who love to show off and find herself in a low esteem.I will not respond .
I urge you to take some action to check and get the developer to issue a letter to you to clear the doubt Unless they put it down in black and white , nothing is clear. May I wish you the best of luck . Just hope that whatever Anchor has highlighted has been resolved .May god bless you all
Comment by Friend — November 29, 2008 @ 8:38 am
This is the last time I am going to offer my 2 cents re DCA thingy. IF you have concerns and experiencing sleepless nights, PLEASE go and check yourself, there are phone numbers, emails, and a physical office.
Instead of continuing to moan in this forum asking somebody else to check repeatedly. Why don’t you just do it???
Thank you and hope we can discuss some other stuff….
Comment by Outsider — November 29, 2008 @ 9:46 am
For all those planning to stay, do you think the number of car parks allocated will be sufficient for your use? i.e 1 for most units, 2 for those 1700+sqft? I know most families already minimum 2 cars
Comment by meridien — November 29, 2008 @ 7:00 pm
For a normal family unit, one car park is obviously inadequate unless one planned to bear with the Komuter, taxis and wait for the LRT. Unlike other projects which are sited in more remote areas and with less traffic, me thinks indiscriminate parking along SS16 won’t be tolerated by the authorities. I don’t know how feasible or practical it is to rely on parking at Subang Parade/Carrefour for the night. So I would suggest you buy another carpark lot if you think you’ll need more than one.
Comment by Mark — November 29, 2008 @ 7:52 pm
Parking at Carrefour at night is out of the question. They actually lock their carpark after midnight and reopen it only the next morning. So you can park, but you won’t be able to get it out if you need it! wahahahah
Comment by meridien — November 29, 2008 @ 8:47 pm
Yes Mark, I understand where you coming from. I am also considering to purchase another extra one car park and reallocate my car park twin lot. I’m wondering it’s that possible to change the carpark lot again?
Comment by SRlover — December 1, 2008 @ 12:08 pm
I understand that the price of the unallocated parking lot had increased substantially when I enquired a few months back. I decided not to pursue guess will have to live with the parking lots that I have.
Comment by Outsider — December 1, 2008 @ 2:30 pm
My brother is interested and keen to purchase 3+1+1 Type J, anyone wants to let go?
Comment by Outsider — December 8, 2008 @ 6:29 pm
Hi all, can someone tell me the progress of the buildings? What floors have they reached at the moment? I have not received my progress payment bill yet. Mine is on the 17th floor. Thank you.
Comment by harris — December 11, 2008 @ 11:33 pm
Hi Outsider. I have been transferred to work in Singapore. I have a unit here that might just meet your requirements.If you are interested, you can contact me at 02 9017 7963.
Comment by David L — December 15, 2008 @ 10:21 am
Please could someone tell me the progress of Saujana Residency at this point. I am in the UK and really would like to know urgently for my next progress payment estimation time. Thanks.
Comment by harris — December 18, 2008 @ 1:35 am
If I’m not mistaken, they are on the 17th floor now.
Comment by Mark — December 18, 2008 @ 2:20 pm
Thanks Mark. Really appreciate your information.
Comment by harris — December 18, 2008 @ 8:23 pm
Invested on a studio unit @ Suria Tower. Wonder how the rental market holds against Empire and nearby apartments/condos. Any ideas?
By the way, the Empire units look pretty spacious from outside. Do they come with double floor ceiling?
Comment by mycoopers — December 22, 2008 @ 3:06 pm
yes, some of the empire units are double floors
Comment by meridien — December 23, 2008 @ 7:49 pm
Merry Christmas from London to all of you…..
Comment by harris — December 25, 2008 @ 5:14 pm
merry xmas ho ho
suria tower on 17th floor now, bayu tower on 16th floor
Comment by meridien — December 25, 2008 @ 6:15 pm
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year everybody.
May there be peace, happiness and prosperity all round.
Comment by bayutower — December 26, 2008 @ 9:29 am
Happy New Year to SR purchasers here!
I really can’t wait to see completed building.
Anyway, I have extra car park for rent. No worries guys.
Comment by SRlover — January 6, 2009 @ 8:47 pm
hey, anyone know if the electrical supply for SR is 1-phase or 3-phase?
Comment by meridien — January 14, 2009 @ 9:21 pm
I went passed the site yesterday and they are doing all of the brick work. It looks like things are coming along pretty fast.
Comment by j — January 17, 2009 @ 9:31 am
Went passed the site yesteday and they have done alot of the brick work. Looks like it is really coming along.
Comment by julie — January 17, 2009 @ 9:34 am
May i know how much it cost to get an addtional parking lot? Cant wait for the completion date
thanks
Comment by sly — January 18, 2009 @ 12:04 pm
If I am not mistaken, the price for the additional parking lot had been revised upward to RM20k, which is pretty steep I suppose.
Comment by Outsider — January 18, 2009 @ 6:01 pm
wow…thanks for the info outsider….
Comment by sly — January 19, 2009 @ 12:57 pm
Hi, guys, Gong Xi Fa Chai to all. Just received a notice from the developer to pay up another 30%. Anyone has got this notice yet? Can the developer ask for 30% at one go? My unit is on the 12th floor.
Comment by RichLock — January 21, 2009 @ 8:16 pm
As far I know there is only one 15% payment, the rest is either 10 or 5%. I paid 15% payment last month in Dec. My unit is at 14th floor
Comment by AHS — January 21, 2009 @ 11:20 pm
That 30% is made up of three stages, viz, Completion of Walls, Door & Window Frames, Completion of Wiring & Plumbing and Completion of Internal Plastering. Any other purchasers for lower than 12th floor got the bill yet?
Comment by RichLock — January 22, 2009 @ 11:14 am
Richlock, when did you paid your last payment before this 30% bill?
Comment by AHS — January 22, 2009 @ 12:11 pm
that means your apartment is already 85% complete! that’s very fast
Comment by meridien — January 22, 2009 @ 2:43 pm
Richlock, I think your 30% comprises, rc frame+ ext. brick wall + ext. plastering.
Kong si fa cai !
Comment by bayutower — January 22, 2009 @ 4:43 pm
Wow good news. Look forward to completion now.
Comment by harris — January 22, 2009 @ 7:20 pm
AHS, my last payment was in December, 2008.
Comment by RichLock — January 22, 2009 @ 11:03 pm
This was reported yesterday. Good news I suppose.
KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 23 — Sime Darby is planning to give its oldest and most famous township, Subang Jaya, a city centre in what it calls an urban renewal effort. The Subang Jaya City Centre (SJCC) will feature commercial buildings that sit on several acres of land between the Subang Parade-Carrefour shopping complexes and the KTM railway tracks.
The TNB substation that occupies four acres of land at the proposed site will be relocated.
Sime Darby says that it is in talks with Prasarana, the owner of the Kelana Jaya LRT to integrate with KTM at SJCC. It said also that there will be a lot of skybridges at the SJCC so that the public can easy access buildings without having to venture onto the roads.
The SJCC is one of many projects that Sime Darby has planned as part of its Sime Darby Vision Valley (SDVV) masterplan. SDVV ecompasses some 80,000 acres of its 126,000 acre land bank in the greater Kuala Lumpur region, stretching from Kuala Selangor to Port Dickson. The estimated gross development value of SDVV is between RM25 to RM30 billion and will span twenty years.
Comment by Outsider — January 24, 2009 @ 8:19 am
outsider,
Has your brother managed to buy a unit of type J?
Comment by type J owner — January 29, 2009 @ 2:33 am
I haven’t decidled to stay or rent out my unit. Well, if the rental is high , I might consider to rent it out.
Comment by type J owner — January 29, 2009 @ 11:30 am
Hi all. My unit is the F type, 2+1 beedrooms, about 1000 sf. Not sure whether to rent it out. Should I install the fitted kitchen and rent it out unfurnished or should I rent it out fully furnished? Any thoughts guys? Any idea how much I can get either way. Thanks.
Comment by zn — January 30, 2009 @ 6:42 am
I meant 2+1 bedrooms, sorry!
Comment by zn — January 30, 2009 @ 6:44 am
I meant 2+1 bedrooms, sorry!
Comment by zn — January 30, 2009 @ 6:47 am
Hi Type J Owner,
No, he has not. A few contacted me wanting to sell their unit but unfortunately they were not type J.
Comment by Outsider — January 30, 2009 @ 11:20 am
Hi zn,
If you plan to stay in your apartment for a few months in a year, it is better not to rent it out. As you know, tenants would not care for your apartment the same way as you would do. This however depends on your personal circumstances. However, if you plan to rent it out, it is better to fully furnish & rent it. As Subang Jaya has a high concentration of colleges, student tenants would prefer furnished apartments rather than unfurnished. Either way, I am clueless of the rent it would fetch.
On the topic of fitted kitchens, I wonder if there is anyone who could recommend a good reliable kitchen fitting contractor.
Comment by Cobra — January 31, 2009 @ 12:16 am
Hi Cobra, thanks for your thoughts. Not sure if I would like student tenants. I am considering using my apartment sevaral times a year, but only on avarage, maybe less than a month, every year. I have another apartment in Langkawi, fully furnised, about the same size as in SR and I can get about RM2500 per month for it. If I can get about the same in SR, I would be happy.
Indeed, I would also be interested in finding a good reliable kitchen fitting contractor. My contractor for my apartment in Langkawi made a superb job. Faultless, but not sure he is willing to do jobs in Subang Jaya. I will ask him though.
Comment by zn — January 31, 2009 @ 1:18 am
I’m new in this blog, I own 3+1 room unit and now in Australia. Could anyone help by giving me the developer contact no. I need to call them to check a couple of things for my unit. Tks
Comment by VH — February 5, 2009 @ 10:36 am
You can visit the group’s website, many other info available there. http://www.lion.com.my/WebOper/Property/PCD.nsf/SaujanaResidency
Comment by Zeney — February 5, 2009 @ 12:15 pm
http://www.lion.com.my/WebOper/Property/PCD.nsf/SaujanaResidency
Comment by Zeney — February 5, 2009 @ 12:22 pm
You can try the link below….
http://www.lion.com.my/WebOper/Property/PCD.nsf/SaujanaResidency
Comment by Mark — February 5, 2009 @ 2:12 pm
Thank you.
Comment by VH — February 9, 2009 @ 11:01 am
Who want to sell their unit? looking for around 1200 - 1700 ones
email me johnjoux@gmail.com
I heard cant sell before completion ? anyway.. give me a shoot pls
TQ
Comment by JC — February 11, 2009 @ 12:35 am
Outsider, care to give any contact for the seller of unit ?
TQ
Comment by JC — February 11, 2009 @ 12:37 am
Can anyone indicates how much this property has appreciated ? Or worst depreciated ? With the slowing down in economy, there may be lots of bargain hunters on all types of properties . I do not mind dispose my “J” (1756 sq ft at 13th floor) unit and look for landed Bangalor unit if I can gain substantially. I have no bank loan on this property. Thus transaction is a lot easier .
Malaccan
Comment by Malaccan — February 12, 2009 @ 11:42 am
Recent Feedback from Saujana.
Project is 85% complete. Revised completion date is now August or September 2009. Compensation will be paid for delays which will be 10% pa on unit cost pro rata over the number of days delayed.
Comment by Cobra — February 12, 2009 @ 6:01 pm
Thanks Cobra.
Comment by zn — February 12, 2009 @ 6:04 pm
Thanks Cobra for the update and info.
Do you know when is the promised date of completion?
Comment by Jocelyn — February 13, 2009 @ 10:45 am
Ya anyone knows when is the proposed completion date cos i signed my S&P in jan 2006, if i remember correctly. thanks
Comment by sly — February 13, 2009 @ 11:34 am
Hi Jocelyn & sly,
I was told that my original completion date was supposed to be in early July 2009. Obviously, it is now delayed. I am not sure whether this original “early July 2009″ date applies to everyone.
Comment by Cobra — February 13, 2009 @ 3:07 pm
Hi all,
Obviously we bought our units at different times and therefore we would have different dates for our sale and purchase agreements.
The project was launched back in December 2005, and I immediately signed up for my contract. So my agreement date is from Dec 2005.
According to the sale and purchase agreement, page 17, para 25.1, the developer is yet to apply for building approval from the appropriate building authority and they have 12 months from Dec 2005 to do so.
So somewhere between Dec 2005 and Dec 2006, they have obtained the approval, otherwise they would not be allowed to commence building.
Then if you look at the next para ie 25.2 in the same contract page, it stipulates that the developer shall deliver to the purchasers within 36 calendar months from the date of the building plan approval or from the expiry of the approval period, whichever is earlier.
So in other words, the very maximum date for completion is Dec 2009.
But can anyone tell me, when exactly they received their approval? If you know, then the actual date of completion, should be 36 months after that date.
Then the next para ie 25.3, it says that if the developer fails to deliver vacant possession on the completion date, we, as purchasers shall receive compensations at 10% per annum of our purchase prices from the completion date to the date of notice from the developer requesting the purchasers to take possessions.
But according to Cobra the new completion date is now August or September 2009, so I suspected that they received the building approval, back in August or September 2006, and therefore 36months after that is August or September 2009.
But anyway thank you for finding out Cobra!
Comment by zn — February 14, 2009 @ 9:20 pm
My S&P was signed on 14/10/2006.
It is clearly spelled out in my S&P that delivery will be 36 months from the date the agreement was signed, meaning 13/10/2009.
It’s therefore quite likely that approval was obtained sometime before 14/10/2006.
Comment by bayutower — February 15, 2009 @ 5:33 pm
zn, thanks for the facts you pointed out in the S&P agreement.
According to anchor’s post (no. 227 above), the Building Plan was approved in June 2006.
Comment by Cobra — February 16, 2009 @ 2:16 am
Hi everyone, I have a 1746 sq ft J-unit on the 11th floor and am putting it up for sale at asking price of RM680,000. I am told that the current value in the area is between RM400-RM500 per sq ft which makes the value of the property between RM698,400 - RM873,000. If anyone is interested, please contact Mary on 016-6630852
Comment by Nic — February 16, 2009 @ 6:14 pm
Hi Cobra, If the the building plan was approved in June 2006, then definitely the completion date for everyone, including you and me, is now somewhere in May 2009!
At least we are going to get some compensations for the delays.
As for the current market value, between RM400-RM500 per sf, that is really not a bad investment, is it?
Nic if you are selling yours at RM680,000, what would be your estimated costs for selling, items like stamp duty, legal fees etc? Any idea?
Comment by zn — February 16, 2009 @ 7:35 pm
Hi ZN, I am not a resident in M’sia so am not really sure. Have got some indication from my real estate agent there that RM50,000 would cover all costs, including agents fees. Hope that this is accurate.
Comment by Nic — February 16, 2009 @ 9:59 pm
Hi, not a M’sian resident so am not sure if this would affect things but the estimate I received was total costs of RM60,000 including agents fees.
Comment by Nic — February 16, 2009 @ 10:02 pm
Thanks Nic for your info. RM50,000 to RM60,000 sounds a lot to me. I thought there is no capital gains tax in Malaysia, so at least you dont have to worry about the tax.
I wonder if anyone knows about stamp duty in Malaysia. Where can I get more information about this?
Then can anyone tell me more about legal fees and estate agent fees, upon selling properties in Malaysia, how much do we expect to pay them in general?
I am very much interested to know about all these. I am a Malaysian citizen, but I have been living in the UK for so long now. My knowledge about Malaysian laws etc is so limited and I wonder if someone can tell me more.
Thank you very much.
Comment by zn — February 16, 2009 @ 11:12 pm
Some answers to your questions are found here:
Ask the iExpert at ………http://www.iproperty.com.my
and other fees at………http://www.lppeh.gov.my/fees.html
Comment by Mark — February 17, 2009 @ 1:19 pm
Thanks Mark.
Comment by zn — February 18, 2009 @ 12:41 am
Seems like the LRT project is delayed. Might as well since the whole thing was shrouded in much secrecy.
http://tonypua.blogspot.com/2009/02/promised-lrt-extensions-delayed.html
Comment by Mark — February 19, 2009 @ 10:18 pm
Hi, I am just wondering if anyone own Type E or F and wish to sell them? I am interested. Please call me 0169010091.
Comment by Mimi — February 21, 2009 @ 3:01 pm
Hi, also interested in Type G. Please call 0169010091.
Comment by Mimi — February 21, 2009 @ 3:07 pm
Hi Mimi. I am abroad at the moment, so not able to contact you via mobile phone, but if you like, my email is zngah@hotmail.com
I am selling my unit. Type F, very top floor, just below the penthouse. I have no bank loans on my property. So hopefully will be quicker and easier. Regards.
Comment by Zainal — February 21, 2009 @ 5:44 pm
I have set up a new blog for Saujana Residency, www.saujanaresidency.blogspot.com
It is not actually for discussion, like this blog. My intention is only to create awareness to public that regrettably I am selling my unit and the love for my property. Cheers.
Comment by Zainal — February 21, 2009 @ 5:53 pm
Just wanted to update you all. I have received about 14 offers for the J Unit that I had advertised - through word of mouth and this blog mostly. However, the highest offer I had was RM620,000 and I felt that this was too low so am holding on to it for the time being.
Comment by Nic — March 2, 2009 @ 6:24 pm
Don’t think this is a good time to sell as the market is going South very quickly….unless you need money and willing to settle for small premium and cut losses.
Comment by Outsider — March 4, 2009 @ 10:18 am
Hi all - is anyone selling any units? if so please provide your contact - email or phone…want to buy at Saujana
Comment by kg — March 10, 2009 @ 2:20 pm
Anyone wanting to rent a 1300+ sqft unit to us?
Comment by Kas — March 10, 2009 @ 2:32 pm
Sorry let me make it clear…is there anyone who wants rent their apartment to us. We are looking for a 1300+ sqft unit…
Comment by Kas — March 10, 2009 @ 2:34 pm
i am the owner of SR,type E ( Squarish ) 883 sqft, 4th floor , Bayu tower. WOuld like to let go if the offer price is ok. kindly contact me at yang97@hotmail.com
Comment by keith — March 10, 2009 @ 9:31 pm
I also have a Type E which I am planning to let go, 883 sqft on the 6th floor of Suria Tower. Interested buyers do feel free to drop me a mail at namuramc@hotmail.com or call me at [zero one six three three zero four two nine seven]
Comment by KC — March 11, 2009 @ 4:32 pm
Hi Kas,
I have a unit(1517 sqf) that I will be looking to rent out once completed. You can contact me at deepz@hotmail.com.
Comment by Gill — March 19, 2009 @ 6:54 pm
Hi Deepz - I am interested and I wrote you an email yesterday but no answer..please email me on lightningsmile1402@yahoo.com
Comment by Kas — March 24, 2009 @ 6:18 pm
HI is anyone selling a 1700+sqft unit? I am interested to buy…anyone know what is the current sqft price at Saujana? When will the keys be handed to the owners?
Comment by kg — March 24, 2009 @ 6:21 pm
KG,
Keys should be handed over in the 3rd quarter, so latest (barring any delays) should be Sept 09. With regards to the pricing, it kinda difficult to gauge with the battered economy, but the market value of service apartments in the vicinity of the area(etiara, tiaraville, casatiara, subang avenue) is around 400 - 500 psf.
Comment by Gill — March 29, 2009 @ 4:07 pm
I can’t believe that they would be done in time to hand the keys over in September. They don’t even have the windows in yet.
Comment by julie — March 30, 2009 @ 12:30 pm
can anyone tell me how much is the maintenance fee /sqft for saujana residency units. TQ
Comment by Laine — March 30, 2009 @ 1:50 pm
Only 15 cent per sq. ft. for the service charges and 5 cent per sq. ft. for the sinking fund. Therefore total monthly maintenance fees are only 20 cent per sq. ft. Not bad at all.
Comment by harris — March 30, 2009 @ 4:27 pm
Hi all,
I just received a demand, this morning, for completion of walls, doors and window frames for my unit, together with the completion of electrical wiring, plumbing and telephone. Wow the progress is amazing!
For the latest photos of Saujana Residency, I found them on http://investorsanonymous.blogspot.com/2009/03/saujana-residency-subang-jaya-site-pics.html
I found www.saujanaresidency.blogspot.com really nice too.
Can’t wait now for the completion date!
Comment by harris — March 31, 2009 @ 8:30 pm
how come they didnt ask us to locate our electrical plug points????????
Comment by TCNo.1 — April 2, 2009 @ 2:08 am
I believe that the plug points are standard. Once you move in you would have to have a contractor come in to do basic renovations, such as additional plug points, installation of kitchen, ect.
Comment by julie — April 2, 2009 @ 2:40 pm
It is standard practice in Malaysia. Can you imagine if all the buyers started to interfere with the developer whilst trying to do his job! Every buyer will have different tastes and style and when will the developer ever manage to please everyone and hence finish the work!
Comment by harris — April 2, 2009 @ 4:59 pm
i dunno which part of malaysia u are staying in, but all my houses that i’ve bought (one landed unit in USJ6) years ago, simedarby actually ask my wife and i to tick the plug points in where u want your wall sockets to be located. unless, u are buying flats all these while lah
Comment by TCNo.1 — April 4, 2009 @ 1:12 am
I still own several condominiums in Malaysia (for investment) and I had to wait until completion dates for any renovation work. You have to look at the scale of the development, I suppose. Your housing development in the past, could be just small and so your developers were able to please everyone. For Saujana Residency, you should really read your S&P, because in there, you will find a clause stating that, you are not allowed to interfere with the developer…..
Comment by harris — April 4, 2009 @ 6:33 am
I don’t know whether it is the new regulation but when I bought an apartment at Taman Setiawangsa years ago, I was given the opportunity to add additional power points. I still got the number of power points as stated on the S & P, however, those additional ones would have to be paid by me. The difference was the wiring would be concealed and saved the trouble of hacking up the wall again to install additional points after the building was completed. So, if a buyer is to tell the developer as to where to install the scheduled lights and power points, that’s interference. However, in addition to the standard installations, the developer is willing to install the additionals (at the cost of the buyer), that’s obligation/service.
Comment by RichLock — April 4, 2009 @ 4:03 pm
Sorry guys, message 450 is not complete. Please ignore.
Comment by RichLock — April 4, 2009 @ 4:07 pm
thanks guys (harris/richlock) for the information. guess nowadays, no more choosing your power points location in due to chasing after the completion dateline, which to me is more important. kudos
Comment by TCNo.1 — April 6, 2009 @ 1:20 am
Hi all,
Check the latest photos of Saujana Residency on
www.saujanaresidency.blogspot.com
Cheers.
Comment by Zainal — April 12, 2009 @ 4:18 pm
Thanks Zainal. Brilliant photos. Good job.
Comment by Cobra — April 12, 2009 @ 5:25 pm
High interest in purchasing the 1746 type j. Kindly e mail me!
Comment by jt — April 13, 2009 @ 7:14 pm
High interest in purchasing the type j 1746 unit. Kindly drop me a note on my email and I will contact you directly. Kindly indicate price as well. jannietce@yahoo.com
Comment by jannt — April 13, 2009 @ 7:18 pm
I’m interested to get a unit but I failed to get any website that can give me any floor plans. Can someone assist me?
Comment by Faith — April 14, 2009 @ 1:18 pm
Faith, please check out Comment #405
Comment by Mark — April 14, 2009 @ 2:38 pm
Mark, Thanks so much. I must have missed-out reading that comment #405.
Comment by Faith — April 15, 2009 @ 9:46 am
anyone selling 1746 unit? keen to purchase..pls let me know…
Comment by kg — April 17, 2009 @ 12:59 pm
Anyone knows what is the best possible price for the 1746 sq.ft unit. My unit is 13th floor Suria block.I pay cash for my unit and would want to sell only if the price is absolutely good. May want to get a landed property with the
sales. Otherwise , I will not let go my unit. Thanks
Comment by viking — April 19, 2009 @ 4:16 pm
I have a unit, type G with size 1360 sq.ft,9 floor Suria block willing to let go to interested buyers as I have no more use since I am now based in Singapore. Please sms me if interested at 02-9017 7963.Thank you.
Comment by David L — April 20, 2009 @ 9:18 am
Anyone interested to sell their Type B-D (740-753 sqft)? I love the uniqueness of the “not-squarish” design.
Comment by Faith — April 21, 2009 @ 12:43 pm
Viking, to answer your question as per post no 461, the market rate of nearby service apts (etiara, casa tiara)range from $350-$500psf. Subang Avenue (recently completed)units are being advertised within that range as well. IMO, I rate SR higher than the other developments (of coz i’m biased)and personally i would not sell my unit lower than 450psf once completed. Also, i’m sure and hoping that SR can sell at 500 psf when the economic situation improves hopefully in 2010. Patience is the key
Nic on post no 430 mentioned that the best offer received for his/her J unit was 620k and is not willing to let go - good decision.
Comment by Gill — April 22, 2009 @ 9:49 pm
Agreed that we should not dispose any unit price below RM500 per sq ft .Unless some of us have some financial problems due to current slowdown . I have a day dream price of RM600 per sq.ft before I would consider selling . Thanks
Comment by Viking — April 24, 2009 @ 3:34 pm
Anyone know what the empty plot of land next to Saujana Residency is going to be? Drove by briefly over the weekend and i saw what looked like an MPSJ “cadangan membina xx” board but am not sure and did not have time to stop and see
Comment by meridien — April 26, 2009 @ 7:37 pm
Hi Meridien,
Not sure if it is related to the proposed SJCC. Please refer to post 393.
Comment by Outsider — April 28, 2009 @ 6:55 pm
i owned a TYPE B (740sqf) and wanted to upgrade to a TYPE G (1360sqf). my email is anthonychoong(at)hotmail.com. WELCOME BUYER and SELLERS to email me, TQ. LION selling TYPE H, 1360sqf (3 rooms) for RM470K as of now. So, my asking price for TYPE G (2 rooms) will not go far from what LION GROUP is offering a.k.a. RM346 per square feet.
Comment by TCNo.1 — April 29, 2009 @ 1:33 am
GUYS, for your info, LION GROUP is changing the Penthouse to TYPE P, at 849 square feet, 17th Floor, at a WHOOPING!!! RM402,000. Design is exactly similar to my TYPE B (740sf) but with a slightly extended living room. This calculates to RM473psf, but penthouse lah…
Comment by TCNo.1 — April 29, 2009 @ 11:23 pm
I thought penthouses are on 18th and 19th floors? Do they converted all the penthouses or just a few? Anyway RM473psf is not so bad. I just checked lion website. Look at the floor plans section. Amazingly they just updated this section. Now they included ‘SOLD OUT’ on most of the types. Basically all type B to type G are now sold out. Then all types I, L and O, are sold out too. For smaller units, only type A1 is still available. For medium units, only type H2 is still available. For bigger units, type J, K, M and N are still available. Not shown any type P yet on this page.
Comment by Harris — May 3, 2009 @ 12:19 am
Hi all. Just to let you all know. I just received the progress payment bill yesterday for completion of external plastering for the whole buildings! Great! So we are now 90% completed.
Comment by Harris — May 11, 2009 @ 12:19 am
Dear sir/madam
This is Mr.Thomas jefferson. .from united kingdom. I write in regards to your advert on the internet
,
I found your contact and noted that your Property is listed for sale.
I will be pleased to have the Pictures of it and your last price if you really want to sale your property.
I will appreciate your prompt response.
Best regards.
Mr.Thomas Jefferson
E-mail.mj.thomas.jefferson@googlemail.com
Comment by Mr.Thomas Jefferson — May 11, 2009 @ 10:51 pm
Hi Thomas. Your message is not cleared! To whom are you talking to? Your email is not cleared either! Is it mj.thomas.jefferson@googlemail.com
By the way, if your email is correct, my friend will be emailing you shortly. Regards.
Comment by Harris — May 12, 2009 @ 12:03 am
Received request for electricity deposit yesterday, need to pay within 21 days. Took some pics yesterday of site, looks good… will post it up over the weekend.
Comment by Gill — May 15, 2009 @ 3:33 pm
I just went to check on the site, they are still working at this hour. It looks great. I couldn’t wait to move there.
Comment by j owner — May 15, 2009 @ 10:08 pm
I received my electricity deposit as well yesterday. Look forward to seeing some of your photos…thanks Gill.
Comment by Zainal — May 16, 2009 @ 2:22 am
Hi Folks,
I’ve updated the photos, enjoy…. Sorry my blog is still work on progress
http://towerpropertylistings.blogspot.com/
Comment by Gill — May 16, 2009 @ 7:23 pm
Great Gill, thanks.
Comment by Zainal — May 16, 2009 @ 8:47 pm
Good day, may I know anyone here interested of letting go unit with 3 bedrooms? I am seriously interested in buying if the price and unit is suitable.
Comment by Ivy Tan — May 24, 2009 @ 3:24 pm
My number is 016-5423938. Thanks
Comment by Ivy Tan — May 24, 2009 @ 3:47 pm
an article on the traffic situation in ss16
http://propertymalaysia.blogsome.com/2009/05/25/784/
Comment by Administrator — May 25, 2009 @ 3:01 pm
Hi, It is not just Subang Jaya that has busy traffic. All other towns surrounding KL are the same. For my money, Subang Jaya is still the best place to live. I would not even consider living elsewhere. The tonwship has got everything that you need and the location is perfect. I love Subang Jaya. Perhaps one should consider living somewhere completely outside KL area, if one looking for silence! This is my view, anyway….
Comment by may — June 1, 2009 @ 7:11 pm
Spot on, May! Latest update for those who have not drove pass Saujana Residency lately, the external plastering on Suria Tower has completed and has started on Bayu Tower (in fact, a few stories have completed). The fence at the front is gone and road works have progressed to quite advance stage. You can see the security podium already.
Comment by RichLock — June 2, 2009 @ 11:59 pm
It looks solid and impressive. I think it will be the best condo in subang jaya.
Comment by j owner — June 3, 2009 @ 12:57 am
Has any one sold off your unit? I am quit curious to know how much it actually worth now.
Comment by j owner — June 10, 2009 @ 12:55 am
Hi all, I just been to the site yesterday. I will update my blog soon with the photos.
www.saujanaresidency.blogspot.com
I think Saujana Residency is so beautiful and still the best in the area.
Zainal
Comment by Zainal — June 10, 2009 @ 6:08 am
Well……Well……. Looks like Saujana is going to make it.
It looks so distinguish from others.
Really proud of the project.
Comment by myview — June 17, 2009 @ 3:01 pm
Anchor, Why you hate Lion so much ? Are you Tan XX ?
Comment by myview — June 17, 2009 @ 3:36 pm
He’s got too much time on his hands
Comment by Gill — June 17, 2009 @ 9:48 pm
Saujana building really looks strong and beautiful. Others project looks so fragile and cramp. Don’t forget it is fully residential.
Comment by myview — June 18, 2009 @ 2:50 pm
Can’t wait to move it…the last time I checked, I was told they were targeting to complete the project by end Aug and handover in Sep. Not sure if this is still the case, any insider info on this?
Comment by Outsider — June 24, 2009 @ 10:07 am
I have been reading this thread for the longest time and finally after all these years I can finally move in. But my biggest grouse is why are they painting it GREEN!!!
Comment by Mr Lee — June 29, 2009 @ 5:23 pm
I don’t think that the final color will be green. Few months ago, they painted parts of Suria & Bayu towers green, but was later painted over. Now they’ve painted the car park section (facing Federal Highway) green but I’m guessing they’re gonna paint it over. I hope so anyways
Comment by Gill — June 29, 2009 @ 9:25 pm
I agree, the choice of colour is a tad worrisome. Hope the final facade turns out fine.
Comment by meridien — June 29, 2009 @ 9:40 pm
Does anyone know what colour will the interior walls inside our apartments will be - living room, bedroom etc?
Comment by Cobra — July 2, 2009 @ 1:53 pm
Is there any unit that still available for sale?
Comment by wanie — July 2, 2009 @ 5:30 pm
There are still a few units available from the developer. Call 017-694-1959/019-632-7101.
Comment by Gill — July 2, 2009 @ 10:04 pm
when are they going to hand over the key? I want to move in during the school holiday.
Comment by j owner — July 3, 2009 @ 12:30 am
I saw the arrival of big lorries with palm trees yesterday for Saujana Residency! According to one of the sale persons, we will get the keys by end of September! I received an email from her yesterday, as a result of my query. I hope the colour for the interior and exterior will be cream or white. I prefer only these 2 colours. I will upload lots of latest photos of Saujana Residency soon. Please see www.saujanaresidency.blogspot.com
Comment by Zainal — July 4, 2009 @ 7:23 am
Forgot to mention that, at this stage, I no longer interested in selling my unit. Love it very much!
Comment by Zainal — July 4, 2009 @ 7:46 am
I went to view the place and It really looks great. I think it will be the best condo in subng jaya so far.
Comment by j owner — July 5, 2009 @ 11:17 pm
Hi all. Latest photos of Saujana Residency are now available! Please visit my blog at www.saujanaresidency.blogspot.com
Comment by Zainal — July 6, 2009 @ 10:11 pm
Once again, excellent photos, Zainal. Thanks.
Comment by Cobra — July 8, 2009 @ 12:24 am
I came across a blog on renting out Tiaraville Condo to foreign “students”. If what was written is true, it is an eye-opener for us SR owners when we want to rent out our units later. You can have a read especially on the last two pages. http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=7535&page=35&pp=15
Comment by RichLock — July 8, 2009 @ 12:57 am
So there are lessons to be learnt here. Bottom line is if you are thinking of renting out your unit, make sure screen your potential tenants. Please protect your investment here in Suajana Residency!
Comment by May — July 8, 2009 @ 3:14 pm
Pls do not rent it out to the students. You really worried me.
Comment by j owner — July 8, 2009 @ 9:26 pm
Ideally it would be great if we can restrict residency from certain groups. Unfortunately, this is both impractical and impossible. It can also be seen as politically incorrect.
Of more importance and certainly more practical will be for the Management to draw up a residents code of conducts spelling out rules governing the ” do’s and don’ts “. For effective and successful implementation, Management should see that these rules are strictly enforced and all valid complaints from fellow residents attended to immediately.
Residents/owners, as the ultimate pay masters should cooperate to ensure that Management is doing a good job.
Comment by bayutower — July 9, 2009 @ 9:09 am
Renting to students will eventually destroy the value of the properties. They tend to bring friends back and abuse the facilities. Eventually the value of the unit will fall and all our investment will be lost. What other ways can we do to prevent that?
Comment by Mr Lee — July 10, 2009 @ 6:35 pm
Every property management will have all those do’s and don’ts beautifully pasted on the office wall. What is more important is how well and effective they are implemented, without fear or prejudice. Is it possible to draught out a common lease agreement which includes the do’s and don’ts of the complex to adhere to or the management could ask the offending tenants to leave? The culprit will not be able to argue “I didn’t know that”.
Comment by RichLock — July 11, 2009 @ 4:20 pm
I admire the management company of one of the brand new condominiums in Ampang area. This condo belongs to my sister and I have stayed here many times for the past 6 months. The company is so efficient. They employ ample security guards and they patrol the area religiously, for example at the guard house allowing people in and out, at the car parks, lifts, and swimming pool area. They even ask people without proper swimming attire, not to swim! Secondly, the renovation work can only be done between certain hours and on certain days. Sunday is a completely noise free day! These guards will actually knock on your doors if they believe that you are doing renovation work outside the hours and they really implement their regulations. Every few hours, somebody will clean and empty the rubbish room! How grand! The place is kept clean all the time. The service charge is about the same as ours here in Saujana Residency! Not costing arms and legs for my sister! There are a lot of tenants with different backgrounds and ethnics, but they seem to have no problems with these people. I suppose students are not allowed to rent here, but I really don’t know! Hopefully we can do the same at Saujana Residency. The right management company is so important and also the right kind of tenants. The owners should really do the screening of their potential tenants and feel more responsible towards other owners and at the same time protect their own investment!
Comment by Zainal — July 11, 2009 @ 7:06 pm
i just buy 1 unit at 4flor but i looking hight flo
Comment by ridz — July 18, 2009 @ 10:17 am
Wah still got unit for sale ah?
Can I get 1?
Comment by shamsol — July 19, 2009 @ 12:20 pm
anyone wanna sell type g or h? please email me.
Comment by TCNo.1 — July 20, 2009 @ 1:34 am
Latest proposal for Subang LRT track. It passes by Saujana Residency - See SJ Echo for details http://www.sjecho.com.my/?page=article&id=943
Comment by meridien — July 27, 2009 @ 9:15 am
I heard that there is 3 bedroom flat for sale in Subang jaya can u please let me know. I believe the price is RM 130.00
Comment by Mrs hemalatha jayant — July 28, 2009 @ 1:54 pm
Went past S. Residency yesterday. They are really making progress on it. There are trees placed on the side where the bbq area is and I could see trees and plants in the poolside area. The water features in the front are taking shape too. Very exciting to see it take shape…all except the green colour of the carpark…
Comment by Julie — July 28, 2009 @ 2:44 pm
Wow thanks Julie with the update. Pity about the green colour!
Comment by Zainal — July 28, 2009 @ 8:24 pm
You never know. After they finish the whole thing the green may look just fine. But it’s more of a light, earthy green so not really sure how it would hold up in time against the sun.
Comment by Julie — July 29, 2009 @ 9:38 am
The proposed LRT line passing the front of SR is a negative IMO, more so for those who bought the lower floors facing Subang Parade. Is there an avenue for SR residents to voice their objections?
Comment by Mark — July 31, 2009 @ 1:39 pm
Yes, its disturbing to note that the LRT is passing in front of SR. Why cant it just cut through Carrefour? It’s making one big detour which is a waste of public funds!! Say NO to LRT track!
Comment by Tan — July 31, 2009 @ 3:05 pm
Is the LRT track already confirmed or is it still in the planning stage? Do we still have a chance to oppose this arrangement? Will someone organise a petition so that all concern SR owners can voice their objections? We are not against the LRT but when it is passing by next to one’s bedroom or “outdoor” bathroom is another thing. This may affect our bottom line – the value of SR!
Comment by RichLock — August 1, 2009 @ 1:50 pm
hello guys, i just spoke to ms teh in their KL office. that is in charge of saujana residency project. she told me the actual completion date is July 2009. the new estimate date now is Sept 2009. But if they were to handover the keys in sept, we cant move in as the cf is not out. it might take another 2-3 months for the cf to be out.
Comment by sly — August 3, 2009 @ 4:46 pm
hi sly,
are u sure they are able to handover the key upon completion? Correct me if i’m wrong, but usually the developer will only handover the key after the building get the cf fm the municipal. now my main concern is how fast SR will get the cf approval. look at subang avenue, if not mistaken the building already completed for more than 3mths. yet didnt notice any owner move in to their respective unit. since u mentioned tat the completion of SR is goin to be delayed fm the original schedule, did ms teh mentioned bout any compensation for the late delivery.
cheers.
p/s: agreed wit the issue of the new lrt track. suggestion pls???
Comment by zali — August 4, 2009 @ 2:12 pm
Conditions for key collection are listed in your SnP, and that does not include CF unfortunately. However if I’m not mistaken you could still do your renovations within this period. Compensation will be based on SnP date to key collection date so you’ll understand why it will be hurried. Those who know better - correct me if I’m wrong.
Comment by Mark — August 4, 2009 @ 5:56 pm
Mark, I don’t think you can do any renovations before CF. I was told about this when I requested to do changes to the tiles and additional power points. Another point I would like to know is whether we will start paying the maintainance fees immidiately after we collected the keys.
Comment by RichLock — August 5, 2009 @ 1:14 am
MCA organised a dialogue session on 25 July on the LRT extention. Apparently this was not well publicized. It seems that the plan/route is not finalized and it will be presented to the public to commend or oppose. You can have a read at this link http://www.usj.com.my/usjXpress/details.php3?table=usjXpress&ID=424
Comment by RichLock — August 5, 2009 @ 1:30 am
I understand the planned handover of key is likely to be in October now but without CF. It could take up to 3 months to obtain CF for commercial property and no renovation is allowed during this period.
With this, there is very little chance anyone can move in this year. My best guess…may be after CNY 2010.
Spoil my plan, spoil my party *%8@#
Comment by Outsider — August 5, 2009 @ 2:50 pm
RichLock, you are right - no renovation before CF. And yes, maintenance fee starts immediately after Vacant Possession.
Comment by Mark — August 5, 2009 @ 10:13 pm
Does that mean we have to buta buta pay up to 3 months’ maintenance fee while the CF is being processed? In that case, I may as well delay collecting the keys until I can actually move in.
Comment by RichLock — August 5, 2009 @ 11:59 pm
hi mark n guys,
does anyone hv any idea when the actual date for the building approval???
Comment by zali — August 6, 2009 @ 9:34 am
They have that covered too. You are assumed to have taken possession two weeks after they sent out the notice, irrespective whether you actually collect it or not.
Comment by Mark — August 6, 2009 @ 9:36 am
this just ridiculous. no renovation can be done but maintenance fee will be collected….so anyone knows the process for the delayed compensation…kindly advise….
Comment by sly — August 6, 2009 @ 10:25 am
Sly,
IMO we have to give the Vendor the benefit of the doubt. They have not done anything detrimental to the purchasers yet. Besides CF there’s this thing called temporary CF. Whatever it is the Vendor is obligated to obtain the CF, one way or another. Compensation for late delivery should be paid after VP at 10% of purchase price on a daily basis from date of SnP to possesion. If nothing else, that should be enough to cover our maintenance fee grievances, that is provided we get paid.
Comment by Mark — August 6, 2009 @ 10:39 am
With regards to the LRT which will pass right in front of the Saujana Residency condo, is anyone planning to protest since we are allowed to do so within 2 mths? It will certainly de-value our property. And with the multi-level carpark beside our condo, this will be quite an eye-sore. Again will cause our property value to go down.
Comment by AL — August 6, 2009 @ 2:03 pm
does anyone know how we can lodge a protest against the building of LRT in front of our condo? can it be done via email or fax? if yes, can i suggest that we all voice our protest/objection against it passing in front of our condo? no objection if passing through elsewhere but not in front of our condo.
Comment by AL — August 6, 2009 @ 2:08 pm
I have been looking for the same thing - where can we voice our disagreement. Could it be at MPSJ office? If anyone knows please publicise it. Anyway a few contacts who may be able to offer some advise and insights :
1. MPSJ - mpsj@mpsj.gov.my
2. Local Councillor - theresa@mpsj.gov.my
3. State Assemblywoman - hannahyeoh@dapsj.com
4. Concerned Citizens - klangvalley.transit@gmail.com
Alternatively, I’m willing to do away with the LRT from coming to Subang Jaya at all. Maybe a feeder bus system works better.
Comment by Mark — August 6, 2009 @ 2:34 pm
Some information to share
- Upon approval of the plans, a public display of the extension will be held at the Subang Jaya Municipal Council, Petaling Jaya City Council, Shah Alam Municipal Council and the Department of Railways.
Subang Jaya residents will be given three months to voice their opinions during the public display period.
Comment by Mark — August 6, 2009 @ 3:57 pm
I have a 1 bedroom for sale as I now need 2 bedrooms. I am looking for a Type E (2 bedrooms) and is selling my Type A (1 bedroom). Anyone interested to buy (1 bedroom) or sell (2 bedrooms)?
Comment by Lim — August 9, 2009 @ 2:08 pm
Hi Lim, i’m interested. Pls email me your selling price and contact number to saulun@hotmail.com. Thanks
Comment by sly — August 10, 2009 @ 10:14 am
thanks mark for the infos…appreciate it…
Comment by sly — August 10, 2009 @ 3:44 pm
Hi Lim,
I am looking to buy a Type A (1 bedroom) unit. Kindly e-mail me details such as your selling price, and floor/unit number to tealover@xsmail.com Thank you.
(Other Saujana Residency owners who want to sell their units are welcome to e-mail me as well)
Comment by Eric — August 10, 2009 @ 10:46 pm
i have type E 2 bedrooms for selling, email yang97@hotmail.com
Comment by keith — August 14, 2009 @ 2:28 am
I have a type G-1360sf. Midfloor facing subang parade. Will consider selling if price is good. Email me yfmah2@gmail.com with offer.
Comment by Zen — August 15, 2009 @ 9:33 am
Hi, i am looking forward to purchaser a unit in SR.
1000-1500sf. Ps send me your details at Vincent12381@ymail.com. Thank you.
Vincent
Comment by Vincent — August 17, 2009 @ 12:12 pm
Your property will in fact skyrocket in value if LRT is there. Even if passes in front of saujana, it will only pass at the level of the carpark. The units only start somewhere 3rd or 4th floor if I’m not mistaken.
Comment by Jef — August 17, 2009 @ 3:11 pm
I agree about the LRT. Property will go up in prices. Also guys, if you dont allow the LRT to be there, it will be unfair to the thousands of others in SJ area. We are a tiny minority. But get this: chances are they will build another apartment complex on the now-empty ground on the left of Saujana if LRT is cancelled. That means all the view is gone. So better have the LRT station there. Rental / sale value will definitely go up if any damned LRT station is nearby.
Comment by Sunny — August 17, 2009 @ 3:17 pm
Jef and Sunny, I think no one disagreed on the LRT extension to SJ, just that preferably the track don’t run pass the front of SR. The entrance facade would be affected, not to mention the noise and privacy of the lower floors. Yes, you fetch better price for proximity to stations but those next to the tracks sells cheaper.
Comment by Mark — August 17, 2009 @ 4:51 pm
I agree with Sunny and Jef. I am in favour of the LRT. I would rather have LRT station built on the empty plot next to SR, then anything else, which might block the views. I am very concerned with the Sime Darby’s project - SJCC which is supposed to be built on that plot, so for me LRT station will be a blessing. Ultimately of course I am not in control of any developments surrounding us. I am not sure that our small voices will be of any influence at all. Unfortunately big projects will go ahead inspite of adverse opinions in Malaysia! That is why in the first place I bought my unit on the highest floor I could afford, hoping that any future developments would be less likely to adversely affect me. So guys it looks like there is a split of opinion here.
Comment by Harvey — August 17, 2009 @ 4:55 pm
It’s not clear yet if the LRT will use the empty plot adjacent to Saujana Residency. It may be that the station itself will be situated on the other side of the Federal Highway (closer to Kelana Jaya) and that they will just built a multistorey carpark next to the KTM station, in which case, they may not use the SJCC plot at all
Comment by meridien — August 17, 2009 @ 7:44 pm
Everyone wants the LRT but no one wants it near their homes. Ironic.
Comment by eksai — August 17, 2009 @ 9:04 pm
i am interested to buy one bed room unit in saujana residency, subang.Any owner interested to sell ,pls give me a call at 016 2826851 or email to me ksp188@yahoo.com
Comment by ker soh peng — August 17, 2009 @ 9:58 pm
I don’t think anyone will disagree on the LRT exension. however to have the railway track running right in front of your property with train passing by every 5 minutes is a problem. As for the train station, just imagine daily commuters parking their cars indiscrimately all over the road to your property!
Comment by Tan — August 21, 2009 @ 4:13 pm
LRT extension is not a new issue.
Apparently there are people who bought with no knowledge.
???
Comment by bayutower — August 22, 2009 @ 1:37 pm
Bayutower,
Up till now the LRT is still in the proposal stage. I don’t know what knowledge are you alluding to. As a matter of fact, I believed residents can still object to the plan, or at least the route it takes and I certainly prefer it to pass elsewhere.
Comment by Suriatower — August 22, 2009 @ 5:21 pm
” I want a guard house, but not in front of my house please.”
Ha!
Anyway, good luck. Have a nice day.
Comment by bayutower — August 22, 2009 @ 6:33 pm
Someone who has attended the LRT extension briefing and is also claimed to be very active in Subang Jaya community services said that the route is pretty set on the path that we are awared. Please refer to item 311 -317 especially 314.We have discussed the subject much earlier which resulted in open end debate.
Is there a chance we organize an interest group among all Condominium unit owners on this strip of road to put forward our protest or proposal or work with them to deisgn / beautify the LRT terminal and LRT track if we can not get it re-route to some other place. However someone have to start the ball rolling rather than just discuss in the blog. Does anyone has some friends and / or who are also buyers in other condo in the strip to initiate the connection.
I have written to Datuk Lee Hwa Beng when he was the assemblyman and executive conuciller of then BN government . He has initiated some discussion with the relevant developers along this strip to make it what I have suggested “Subang boulevard “. There were lots of interest and the idea was then developed into an executionable community project . Since BN was toppled , such project should be forward to Hannah Yeoh to take the lead . We as condo buyer should also assist her to make the dream come through. We can merge the LRT and Subang Boulevard to be the “Plus” factor .
Over to all you to comment and counter suggest. Appreciates let have positive discussions on how to improve our situation for all of us. Work together to improve our living environment and property value . Thanks
Comment by viking — August 23, 2009 @ 9:53 am
I was just looking through photos of SR’s old showroom http://www.lion.com.my/WebOper/Property/PCD.nsf/SaujanaResidency-Gallery
If you look carefully at the first picture, the ceiling-to-floor windows seems to be different from the ones on the actual building. i.e. the ones in the showroom are rectangular (not square) and look much nicer IMHO. did the developer pull a fast one over us?
Also, if the developer is reading this blog, i think you meant the caption for the photo to be “expansive”, not “expensive floor-to-ceiling height windows. wahahahaha
Comment by meridien — August 23, 2009 @ 3:40 pm
Anybody want to sell Type A units, I want to buy, by the way,im not agent. Email me at propertyselangor@yahoo.com
Comment by Type A — August 25, 2009 @ 6:43 pm
Hi,Meridien. I went to the site to check on the progress every day. I just came back from there and would like to inform you that the windows are exactly like the one on shown at the showroom.They are rectangular in shape.I should said that the developer had done a good job. Even the trees which they planted are big trees and the workers are still working at this hour.I went to view the Olive which will be completed by end of this year in ss17 yesterday.They are selling at RM400 per square foot.I am sure our condo can fetch a higher price than this after completion.Anyway I am not going to sell my unit as I think it will be best condo in Subang Jaya and I am proud to own one.
Comment by type J owner — August 25, 2009 @ 11:43 pm
the basement lights and stairways lights are up in most floors! things looking good. trees are growing well. guardhouse completed with balinese trees along the driveway. palmtrees are seen swaying from the federal highway yesterday at 6.00pm. very windy area. most windows are filled. the water-features are setting up too. cant wait to move in.
Comment by TCNo.1 — August 26, 2009 @ 1:42 am
Wow, thanks for the updates guys. I just got a letter from the developer today, regarding water supply. I wonder when we will get the next 5% progress payment bill. Can’t wait now to move in.
Comment by Zainal — August 26, 2009 @ 3:19 am
Called Saujana Height a couple of days ago, the officer again indicated that the handover would be in Sep but unable to confirm the most likely date.
She also confirmed that the maintenance fee will be applicable after vacant possession, and the approval of CF will take min 3 months.
So our best hope is to move in after CNY 2010 I suppose as no renovation is allowed before CF is obtained.
Comment by Outsider — August 26, 2009 @ 10:23 am
Hi type J owner. Thanks for the clarification on the windows. It looks different from the pictures - maybe it’s due to the different scale.
Minimmum 3 months for CF after vacant posession??? that’s wayyy longer than i expected. When i called Saujana Heights about 1.5 months back, the officer said that the vacant possession and CF would be issued at around the same time. Guess the officer was just misinformed back then…
Comment by meridien — August 26, 2009 @ 10:58 am
Hi. Im interested in buying 1 unit @ SR. Preferably below 1200sqf. Anyone want to sell their unit please email me at
mhafiz_razak@hotmail.com
Comment by Hafiz — August 26, 2009 @ 4:28 pm
I went to view the site this afternoon and found out that the palm trees which was drawn on the pictures have substituded with coconut trees.I wished I
am wrong because it looks more like coconut trees than palm trees. A bit dissapointed.But I still have faith on the developer. Still looking forward to move in.
Comment by j owner — August 27, 2009 @ 12:21 am
well, you know what they say, life throw’s you a coconut, make coconut juice
Comment by meridien — August 27, 2009 @ 8:01 am
anyone wish to sell type A & E, pla give me call at 0162826851 or email to ksp188@yahoo.com
i am not agent and is a serious buyer.
Comment by ker soh peng — August 31, 2009 @ 11:16 pm
pls let me know if owner of type A or E wish to sell their units.serious buyer not agent.do call 0162826851 to discuss
Comment by ker soh peng — August 31, 2009 @ 11:20 pm
I have a unit, type G with size 1360 sq.ft,9 floor Suria block willing to let go to interested buyers as I have no more use since I am now based in Singapore. Please sms me if interested at 02-9836 9230.Thank you.
Comment by David L — September 3, 2009 @ 10:14 am
has anyone realized that the gemnasium is not included in the free facilities list.
Comment by j owner — September 6, 2009 @ 5:00 pm
YUP.. MUST PAY FOR IT. ALSO, UPON HANDLING OF VACANT POSSESION, U MUST PAY 3 MONTHS DEPOSIT + 3 MONTHS ADVANCE OF MAINTANENCE FEE! GOOD LUCK! THOSE WANNA SELL, BETTER SELL NOW!
Comment by TCNo.1 — September 7, 2009 @ 2:00 am
I think the gym is free. Its the aerobic and dance classes that are not free
Comment by meridien — September 7, 2009 @ 9:00 am
I don’t really see why people are harping on the advance payment of deposit and maintenance fee. If ppl cannot afford to stay in SR, I hope you guys either sell it or move out. SR is not some low class cheap apartment. I sincerely hope the Management can raise the maintenance fees higher to keep out those “undesirable” tenants.
Comment by Tan — September 7, 2009 @ 9:38 am
Ladies and Gentlement
I find this blog very interesting with many funny characters. Last Sunday (Sept 06) I viewed the Saujana Residency twin blocks from the small hill slope at the other side of Federal highway( Near O-lot ). It is very impressive. May be Zianal should shoot couple of pictures from this angle.Hope we can move in sooner.
I hope this blog can accomodate some friendly exchange of opinions without insulting the participants. Yes, Saujana Residency is a nice and moderate project and not in high end though.Owning a unit in SJ does not make us high up in the society hierarchy and/ or feeling rich. There are many projects that are much more pricy than SJ.
Since we are going to be the “sharehoders” of this project, I suggest we have to respect others opinion whether they own a single room or having the largest floor space unit. Raising the maintenance fees can not keep so called “Undesirable” away. It does noot mean expensive will equate to quality. Many very rich people are very careful with their money. Why should te money be waste. Open up ourselves to allow others to express. Thanks
Comment by Makgniv — September 7, 2009 @ 12:41 pm
DEAR TAN, IF U THINK INCREASING MAINTENANCE FEE WILL HELP CHASE CHEAPO OWNERS AWAY, PLEASE APPLY TO LION GRP AND ASK THEM TO INCREASE YOURS ONLY. I APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE FOR TYPING IN LARGE CAPS, IT’S BCOZ MY KEYBOARD IS BROKEN, DOESNT MEAN I’M SHOUTING. I’M JUST INFORMING/REMINDING MY FUTURE NEIGHBOURS REGARDING THE MAINTENANCE FEES ADVANCEMENT, NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT, JUST TO GIVE OURSELVES TIME TO ALLOCATE THE FUNDS. THANKS MAKGNIV FOR CLARIFYING THAT ASKING THE MANAGEMENT IN INCREASING THE MAINTENANCE FEES IS AN IDIOTIC MOVE. THE REASON I’M REMINDING OURSELVES IN REGARDS TO THE MAINTENANCE FEES CHARGES IS JUST FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION. TQ. CHEERS, MR TAN.
Comment by TCNo.1 — September 7, 2009 @ 2:53 pm
just changed my keyboard. soory again for typin in BIG CAPS! i actually went into the ground floor of bayu tower. i see the 3 lifts to our floors. there’s also a side stairway that leads to a ‘duplex’ unit located at Grd Floor. wow. i didn’t know that SR got duplex units.
Comment by TCNo.1 — September 7, 2009 @ 5:45 pm
I have look through the S&P agreement. I hope i was wrong but i don’t think so.
Comment by j owner — September 7, 2009 @ 9:23 pm
This is the first time I bought an apartment and I took for granted that all high rise will oame with free gym facility. I currently holding a few club memberships and I intended to transfer one of my membership to a good friend after moving into SJ.I am also joining the true fitness as a group members(a family of four members)for three years. It cost about RM600+ per month. I was thinking how are they going to charge us?
Comment by j owner — September 7, 2009 @ 9:52 pm
hmmm…
My S&P states Gymnasium, **Aerobics / Dance classes
and below, ** are those services that are chargeable. If the gym is payable, it would have been written as
** Gymnasium, Aerobics / dance classes
Comment by meridien — September 7, 2009 @ 9:57 pm
My S&P clearly stated that the use of gym is free, but the aerobics and dance classes are not free.
Comment by Z — September 7, 2009 @ 11:48 pm
Thank you for the informations.Mine was written as Gymnasium,Areobics / dances classes.**
Comment by j owner — September 8, 2009 @ 8:21 am
meridien is correct.
The use of Gymnasium is not chargeable. Aerobics/dance classes and any other services where instructors are engaged are chargeable which is fair.
Before I signed my S&P I sought clarification with both the developer and lawyer. I have received from the developer a written confirmation (carbon copied to the lawyer) to this effect.
Don’t worry the use of gym is not chargeable.
Comment by bayutower — September 8, 2009 @ 8:30 am
Thank you for the information.My S&P stated as such : Gymnasium,Aerobic/Dance classes,**
I wonder why mine is different from yours.
Comment by j owner — September 8, 2009 @ 8:39 am
If I’m not mistaken, you signed your s&p b4 mine. I signed in Oct.
When I noticed “Gymnasium,Aerobic/Dance classes,**”, I sought clarification and have it changed to “Gymnasium, **Aerobics / Dance classes”.
Comment by bayutower — September 8, 2009 @ 9:19 am
We represent the African students in Malaysia. It’s very difficult to find accomodation in PJ. Luckily thanks to like minded owners like TCNo.1 and Makgiv, we can afford good luxury living in SJ whihc is near our college. Mr Tan I find you abhorent! Lets make SR the most affordable and friendly residence for us African students!
Agents please contact me at africanunited@gmail.com. We are interested to rent en bloc!
Thank you!
Comment by Free Africa — September 8, 2009 @ 11:51 am
I have this perception that the Africans are always loitering around and noisy. There’s a case in nearby Subang Boulevard. The security personnel went to speak to them after some neighbours complained about loud noise and music coming from the Africans unit. After the guards were gone, the music got louder still. Units rented to Africans invariably has many visitors, permanent or otherwise. African families may be better. At Wawasan in Puchong, they manage to turn a part of the park into their football ground and no grass ever grows there again. Not my intention to discriminate here but that’s a fact we need to accept. I believe I’m colour blind, the problem here is just acceptable attitudes and behaviour. Free Africa said they are interested to rent enbloc, wonder what makes him think thats possible. Better chance in buying a whole block, somewhere else that is.
Comment by Port Harcourt — September 8, 2009 @ 4:50 pm
We should just ignore this “Free Africa” as I think the person writing it just want to stir something up (there have been many attempts made to sabotage this project). No need to comment further.
Comment by Outsider — September 8, 2009 @ 6:41 pm
I came to know quite a number of owners of SJ and they are buying for own stay. All of us are looking forward for the completion. My husband even jokingly asked me whether will I rent out the place if the rental is attractive? I told him I am very particular of choosing the tenant and anything less than RM8,000. I will not even consider. Anyway lets hope that we will be getting the key early so that we can plan up things early and move in before New year. It is interesting to read this blog and glad to know some of you helpful and interesting people. I am sure we will have a good time there with good neighbourhood.
Comment by j owner — September 8, 2009 @ 8:40 pm
Firstly I would like to apologize for the errors of my ways. Mr TCNo.1 is right. It’s a stupid idea to increase fees etc.
To Mr Free Africa, I am interested in renting the place out provided the rent is right. Kindly contact me at chee_hock@gmail.com. I have a large unit, perhaps I can demarcate them into smaller living quarters if you don’t mind?
Comment by Mr Tan — September 9, 2009 @ 12:53 am
This Tan fella…..is this your idea is to rile up the residents. You are not even hiding your deliberate intention to annoy. Like someone else had commented, you are probably one of the saboteurs and should be ignored. Go get a life.
Comment by Port Gentil — September 9, 2009 @ 10:24 am
Stop this conversation regarding who should stay in SR. Let’s remember to be kind and considerate to eachother as we will all be future neighbors….we haven’t even moved in yet!
Comment by Julie — September 9, 2009 @ 10:41 am
We are guests of your country and all I see is racism and double standards. We have been asked to move our from Tiara, Sunway Court and all the other accomodation. Here we have some kind sould who is willing to rent his property to us and all of you are against it!!!
What is wrong with you people!! We are moving into SR no matter what.
Comment by Free Africa — September 9, 2009 @ 10:59 am
Hi Kas,
I have a unit(1517 sqf) that I will be looking to rent out once completed. You can contact me at deepz@hotmail.com.
Comment by Gill — September 9, 2009 @ 4:07 pm
Hi all, just to remind you all purchasers, when you signed up your ‘deed of mutual covenants’, you must have realised that Saujana Residency is not supposed to be rented out to students. Please read again and you will find the clause. It is stated clearly under third shcedule, house rules and regulations, clause 1.3 residential restrictions, (c) (ii), page 26.
For those who do not have time to read the actual deed, I quote “…….the Purchaser shall not,…….convert or allow the parcel to be used in such manner so as to accommodate more than it was originally designed or approved for or to overcrowd the parcel in breach of the bye-laws of the appropriate authority. In particular the Purchaser shall not subdivide the parcel into smaller units accommodation or to use the parcel as student accommodation or hostel or such other similar arrangement or for other commercial purposes.”
Please observe all other house rules and regulations. Rules are there for a reason.
So not just students from Africa, same goes for local students and from the rest of the world. So looks like Free Africa must find somewhere else for his students. It is nothing to do with rasism, just simply this place is not for students.
Comment by Z — September 9, 2009 @ 4:21 pm
WTF?? I didn’t post comment no. 593 today. I posted that in comment no 437 back on March 19th ‘09, so not sure how this got double posted 6 months later… sumthing fishy goin on here.
Anyways back to the topics discussed above. It definetely seems like some individuals are trying to sabotage this development, not sure what the agenda is. Whatever it is, i’m confident with SR and have no regrets purchasing 2 units there. As a property negotiator who is eperienced in this field, I’m sure this place will hold it’s own with it’s strategic location, arrival of LRT and the differentation compared to competition in the vicinity. For example, take look at some pics of Subang Empire units (our neighbour). I’m not gonna say much as a picture says a thousand words
… View Empire Subangpics here http://www.myrealestate.com.my/viewtopic.php?t=8764&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=150
Comment by Gill — September 9, 2009 @ 6:50 pm
Thanks Z. I am glad the developer had forseen all these. I really hope all of us be more down to earth and make the best out of everything.Be happy and see things positively and I am looking forward to meet all of you guys there.
Comment by j owner — September 9, 2009 @ 6:56 pm
Good to hear the developer foreseen all thse. Any good development here in Subang Jaya is good for everyone, esp. the LRT if it really happened. I noticed owners already renovating their units in Subang Avenue. Once Empire, Avenue (some fitness centre opening as well), and Saujana fully occupied ~ it’s going to be a busy road soon.
Comment by eksai — September 10, 2009 @ 9:58 pm
When the unit owners take prosession of units, we have the right to form the Joint Management Board (JMB ) according to BCPA 2007 from the Developer as early as possible (even within one month) . This JMB can rewrite the house rules anyway we want with approval of the unit owners ( Majority vote in writting. Please note: each unit owner has only one vote no matter how many units you owned and how large is your unit in term of space )
May be some of us should get familiar with the legal responsibilities as unit owners ( share-holders to Saujana Residency) and adapt to share the living spaces( common areas) as harmonious as possible.
My next opinion is that LRT is good but it will deface the asthetic architectural design of Saujana Residency plus the other projects within the strip. We can play role in getting the entire ‘Subang Boulevard’’s condo unit owners to work together to ensure the LRT structure will enhance the asthetic look of the entire strip not deface it. MPSJ must have the old file materials that Datuk Lee Hwa Beng has done with all the developers to develop this strip of road to become the Subang Baulevard with a tunnel connection to the green lung with lake.
As for the CF it is now called CCF which is to be released by the Project Architecture pretty easily without much waiting . My suggestion is that some of us should start thinking of forming the JMB and elect the right JMC ( Joint Management Committee ) to start interfacing with the Developer. Tks.
Comment by Makgniv — September 11, 2009 @ 1:37 am
Makqniv, your suggestions are well presented and thought out. I’m all for forming a JMB and would be willing to be involved.
Comment by Julie — September 11, 2009 @ 10:13 am
SR is so popular until ppl are finding ways to sabotage it.
Comment by Proud SR Owner — September 11, 2009 @ 12:18 pm
With due respect, SR is a large project. No one can and in their right mind sabotaging the project. We do not have to point ourselves to wrong direction. What is there to sabotage if all the participants in the blog are all co-owners minus some ‘interesting parties’. The courage to speak otherwise should be encouraged as we are living in the open and borderless society. What I suggest is that let others has the right to air their views. There are two sides to any coin. Opens up ourselves. Don’t you have different opinions within your family- husband and wife??
If yes, then what is wrong to listen to others expression of their thoughts? We can not force others to think the same as we want.
To all the unit owners - we should work together to accomodate each others as we are all shareholders of the project with equal right i.e. one owner one vote no matter how many units and how large the spaces you owned until the new law is tabled in the parliament ( the law is in progress of updating )
Comment by Makgniv — September 11, 2009 @ 12:50 pm
I will support your idea too.
Comment by j owner — September 11, 2009 @ 8:52 pm
Any owner of Type A & E interested to sell their units?
Serious buyer not agent.Do call 0162826851 or email ksp188@yahoo.com
Comment by ker soh peng — September 12, 2009 @ 12:15 am
very interested in one room or two rooms unit. ( TYPE A & E)Anyone keen to sell? Pls call 0162826851 or email ksp188@yahoo.com
Comment by ker soh peng — September 12, 2009 @ 12:18 am
The info on here is very useful. I am an owner myself, I have to say the building looks very nice now, except for the bright green they have painted on the side facing the federal highway…does anyone else feel that this color is unsuitable for the building? It makes it loose it “luxurious” touch. Has anyone complained about this yet?
Comment by P.Rama — September 13, 2009 @ 11:26 pm
Some time back I made a comment on this blog regarding the green colour of the carpark. I agree that at this time it sure looks to be unpleasing.
Comment by Julie — September 14, 2009 @ 9:51 am
Agree. the green colour is appalling. Don’t think there’s anything we can do about it now. Just have to make sure it’s repainted a different colour when the building is next repainted (how long is that, every 10 years?)
Anyways, according to developer, handover likely after Raya, but definitely this month
Comment by meridien — September 14, 2009 @ 10:13 am
Has anyone object to the wire-mesh fencing at the front? it has cheapen the aesthetic look of Saujana Residency.
On the green walls , suggest to have two options:-
a. Form the protemp Joint Management Board to negotiate with developer to re paint them . Or
b. The JMB uses the management fee collected to re-paint the walls at a later date say 6 months later.
Notice that they are lots more things to be done to be ready to handover. The frontage / entrance road pavement, the air conds, the tennis courts and water featrues are some of the visible things that we can see. Just wonders can Lion Group speed up the tail end of the work soon enough .
Comment by Makgniv — September 14, 2009 @ 1:26 pm
Proposed LRT lines on display from tomorrow: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/37652-new-lrt-line-extensions-on-display-from-tomorrow
Those with an opinion should make them known.
Comment by Mark — September 14, 2009 @ 3:22 pm
Agreed that they screw up on the colour and the wire mesh thingy. Is there anyway we can compare with the original design? To start with, the entrance water features already seems different.
Comment by Mark — September 14, 2009 @ 3:29 pm
LRT lines will be on display from tomorrow http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/37652-new-lrt-line-extensions-on-display-from-tomorrow
Comment by Mark — September 14, 2009 @ 3:30 pm
Proposed LRT lines will be displayed from tomorrow. It will be displayed at the following five places; Department of Railways at Jalan Sultan Hishamuddin; Kuala Lumpur City Hall building at Jalan Raja Laut; Petaling Jaya City Council building at Jalan Tengah; Subang Jaya Municipal Council building at Persiaran Perpaduan USJ5, Subang Jaya; and Shah Alam Municipal Council building at Persiaran Perbandaran in Shah Ala
Comment by Mark — September 14, 2009 @ 3:32 pm
Sorry for the repeated posts. It didn’t seems to be posted earlier.
Comment by Mark — September 14, 2009 @ 3:37 pm
thank you for the information.The originalLRT proposed line will pass through between SJ and empire. Which means it will be on top of the tennis court.Am I right? Any comment on that? In order to make a turn It has to be at least three stories high from the ground level.Any objection on that?
Comment by j owner — September 14, 2009 @ 11:04 pm
j owner, I know what you mean, I’ve seen the same graphics you mentioned but I think it’s more like between SR and Subang Parade and then turning left towards the mosque. Any which way they built it, it’s definitely not good for the front facade. If the alignment don’t change, all we can hope for is for the line to pass on the side nearer to SP instead of SR. Having said that, I think like minded residents should go register their displeasure.
Comment by Mark — September 14, 2009 @ 11:18 pm
I do not think that Lion Group can sell this small corner to allow them to build the LRT track. The tennis courts are common areas that are co-owned by all unit owners in Saujana Residency. Lion Group can not sell without the written approval from all unit owners .
Therefore, there is an urgent need to form the protemp Joint Management Board (JMB), elect the right JM commitee members to make sure the common areas can not be sold. We can take the developer to court if it sells any parcel of common areas without proper resolution endorsed by a great majority of the unit owners if not 100%. A lone unit owner can take JMB to court if there is no 100 % endorsement from unit owners.
Comment by Makgniv — September 15, 2009 @ 1:28 am
The LRT was one of the main reasons I purchased SJ.
Sorry you don’t have my support on this issue.
Anyway, best of luck and wishes.
Comment by bayutower — September 15, 2009 @ 7:54 am
Btw, there is no way the LRT is going between Empire and SJ.
It is almost a certainty to be between SJ and KTM station and along the road infront of SJ.
Comment by bayutower — September 15, 2009 @ 7:59 am
No one is objecting the LRT arrival. However, what we should do is to work with the LRT developer to make sure the aesthetic design and outlook of SJ and the so called “Subang Boulevard” is not defaced. Can someone view the public displayed model and routing plan to see how it will pass through the SJ/SP. Can this be underground instead of surface structure? Can it be covered if it is surface structure just like what HongKong MRT where it pass through the residential blocks to contain the noice polution and aesthetic look.
Comment by Makgniv — September 15, 2009 @ 11:44 am
The official LRT extension website : http://www.lrtextension.com
Comment by Mark — September 15, 2009 @ 3:07 pm
I gathered from the authority of LRT project. The train has to accelerate for a certain distance before making a turn. That is why it needs to move infront of SR then make a turning into the road leading to the mosque.
Comment by j owner — September 15, 2009 @ 3:29 pm
I also came to know that they do not need to purchase any land from SR if the track is above the land. Free way, I guess. That is what the authority told me,may be you all can check it out.
Comment by j owner — September 15, 2009 @ 3:36 pm
It seems the track runs between SR and Federal Highway and turns in between SR and Empire. No idea how its going to squeeze through that space. What will happen to the tennis courts?
Anyway more info here : http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?p=369084&posted=1#post369084
Comment by Mark — September 16, 2009 @ 12:08 am
tennis courts will have shelter from rain and sunshine. just not sure how my suria tower neighbours gonna live with an LRT track outside the window.
Comment by TCNo.1 — September 16, 2009 @ 1:00 am
the LRT moves behind SR and then cut between SR & Empire, heading to SS15 mosque. i presume this is a 2-ways line. good for the community and housing value. support.
Comment by eksai — September 16, 2009 @ 1:37 am
The section between SR and Empire is shaded red. Could mean it’s covered, so not too intrusive. Just hope the tracks before that are not so high that they have full view of our pool. Otherwise, may have to erect a visual barrier.
Comment by mark — September 16, 2009 @ 10:21 am
I am at suria block 13th floor facing federal Highway and Pool / O-lot . It will not affect me much. However to those facing the Empire Soho and Shah Alam view especially low floors will have serious concern.
I live in Hong Kong Tweun Wan for eight years and just next to MRT line. All the tracks passing through residential blocks are either underground or fully covered at least 500 meters before and after the blocks. The workway are fully air-cond which the Discovery Park a high-end condo property.
Can we have the Suria block facing the Empire Soho and Shah Alam group together to work with the LRT company to have the LRT track fully covered. They need to take care of the environmental issue such as noice pollution. We must make sure the noice pollution must be within the international standard of a certain dp( bleow 17dp).
Can we have the Suria block respond to form the group especially those below 6 floor. I can be part of the team even though it will not affect me much. Thanks
Comment by Makgniv — September 16, 2009 @ 12:45 pm
It will be covered when it pass through in between the space(SR and Emoire)to reduce the noise.But I am not sure of the starting point.
Comment by j owner — September 16, 2009 @ 2:02 pm
Who would’ve thought when we were buying our property that the LRT would be passing our property through the tennis courts! It will affect all of us if it is going to pass between SR and Federal Hwy..think of the common areas such as the swimming pool. Plus no one knows if it is going to be covered or not. I just don’t understand why it cant pass through between carrefour and subang parade and then up to the mosque.
Comment by julie — September 17, 2009 @ 12:48 pm
I am looking for a place to buy please let me know if you are willing to sell type H 1360sq ft or type j 1746sqft. Happy to look at it straight away…you may email me on lightningsmile1402@yahoo.com
Comment by KG — September 17, 2009 @ 12:57 pm
To those who are concerned on the LRT passing through the SJ/ES, we need to work together to find the best way out for the Suria Block in particular and entire Saujana Residency in general.
Instead of sit and wait for things to happen, we need to group together to find a way out of this situation.
The Tennis courts are the common property of the unit owners and not the property of developer. Therefore, legally Lion Group can not sell the space without the full APPROVAL from all unit owners. I wil not endorse any sales of the spaces for the LRT use. There is no way that the LRT structure can pass through the SJ/ER w/o using SJ common area to erect the supporting structure. We still have the legal rights to negotiate. Question is: who want to get involve? As I have mentioned, I am at 13th floor facing the swimming pool and the Federal highway. The LRT will least affect me in term of obstruction and aesthetic view. But the structure, the environment noice pollution and lose of privacy do concern. Can we work together to start the discussion to find the best way out??? We have an active blog participation, hope this is the time to act rather than just blog.
Comment by Makgniv — September 17, 2009 @ 3:52 pm
Have anyone taken a serious view of the routing plan that the LRT is indeed passing through the space between SR and ES? Anyone interested to work togther to negotiate with the LRT company for better structure and protect the environment
and SJ privacy?
Comment by Makgniv — September 17, 2009 @ 3:56 pm
Shouldn’t we first get answers from Lion as to whether the tracks encroached into our space. Agreed with Makgniv that it seems improbable there are government space between SR and ES.
Comment by Mark — September 17, 2009 @ 4:51 pm
Just got back from viewing the LRT plans at MPSJ. Some interesting points to share
1) Saujana Redidency identified as the area most affected by noise level for the lrt line from sound modelling conducted by the lrt developer. Expected 67db level for people on the 7th floor which is slightly above recommended threshold for urban residential area of 65db.this is why they are errecting sound barriers for the section between empire and SR
2) They intend to purchase parts of SR land for the LRT. We can kiss the tennis court goodbye. The developer seems to be unaware of this as well for now. But this is in black and white.
3) The SJCC development next to us is expected to be integrated with the LRT station and will house the multi-storey carpark for both the lrt users and their own users. Hope there are enough spaces for everyone!
Comment by meridien — September 17, 2009 @ 5:44 pm
Thanks meridien for the feedback. As I have indicated, developer can not sell any parcel of common areas at Tennis courts. It is now now common areas of the unit owners of JMB or management corporation ( at a later date ). It needs all the Unit Owners to 100 % approve the sales. I will defintely not sign the approval.This is my simplistic view of the BCPA 2007. Are there any lawyers among the unit owners. The noice level should be below 50db(A) and we have to protect the privacy of the unit dwellers also. We have to find ways to work together to protect the property. Anyone else care to work together? First, we must form the Protemp JMB to have the strength to negotiate. Are there any Unit owners who are also unit owners of Empire Soho.
We can harness the strengths of two project to object the routing through SJ/ES.
Comment by Makgniv — September 17, 2009 @ 6:55 pm
i agree with Makgniv. No way we are gonna happily let a train pass us when our condo’s bathtub is built exteriorly. not only breach our intimate privacy but i rather not hear noisy train tracks when we are using the tub. common sense lah!
Comment by TCNo.1 — September 17, 2009 @ 7:06 pm
can anyone explain the tennis court/common area issue? is it bcos the LRT require additional ’support’ and will take up the common area to provide it?
Comment by eksai — September 17, 2009 @ 9:44 pm
If indeed it is Prasana’s (the state-owned public transport operator) plan to run the LRT line between Empire and SR, they must be out of their mind! I’m sure there’s some sort of law restricting railway tracks running close to residential building…. theres only 30-40 metres(I think) of space between Suria tower and Empire, and lets say the track occupies 10 metres, meaning the distance from the track and Suria will be 10-15 metres. So we can actually communicate via sign language with the passengers in the train. That’s ridiculous!!! And how bout safety? If derail every happens, the train may end up flying into Suria tower or Empire. DUH!!! Sometimes I wonder who are the people responsible of coming up with such a great ideas.
I hope commonsense prevails and Prasana changes the route or else I can foresee strong opposition from SR and Empire owners. This is no longer building the tracks behind our backyard, but instead building over our backyard (or sideyard to be exact).
Comment by Gill — September 17, 2009 @ 10:16 pm
Someone was explaining that as long as the LRT structure is on top ( air space ) of a piece of land w/o using any land ground space to build support, the LRT developer does not have to buy the land. Not with my little legal knowledege. Using air space permanently with a structure spanning the entire length is not part of the law that permit the LRT structure to fly pass. Furthermore, the LRT track that pass through the SJ/ES must have at least 15 to 20 support structures to carry the weights of LRT track. It means they have to buy the entire full length from SJ. A common property or common areas are spaces that all unit owners owned jointly and all dwellers can use the common spaces without any restriction. This can not be the sole property of the developer ( Lion Group ). Thus LRT developer must acquire the common areas a.k.a. Tennis court plus all the space in front / behind the tennis courts to build the support structure from the JMB or MC . Hope this clarify what is common areas and Tennis Courts where the LRT must pass through. I will NOT sign any resolution to approve the sale of this parcel. As Unit Owners , we have the final say to or not to sell. I am sure many at the Suria block will not approve the resolution if it is proposed. We have to group together to make sure all of us have the best protected property and our privacy. The LRT developer must have other better rounting than this SJ/ES passing. Let’s work as group to air our voices.
Comment by Makgniv — September 17, 2009 @ 10:26 pm
Actually we should object the proposal.
Comment by j owner — September 17, 2009 @ 11:46 pm
If the plan is to acquire land from SR then I’m with you Makgniv. No way I’m going to compromise on that. But first we need to ascertain all the information from Prasarana and Lion before acting. Btw, if you extend Jln Jengka to trace the probable track alignment, it seems to me it encroaches into ES instead of SR. Thats probably why SR management are not aware. That’s just an optimistic guess. Whatever it is, we all should direct our enquiries and diapproval to Lion. I called them today and obviously they have no idea. They still think the track runs between SR and SP.
Comment by Mark — September 17, 2009 @ 11:48 pm
This LRT going between SR & Empire is plain blardy ridiculous!!! This ppl is plain idiot and moron to come out with such plans!
Comment by sly — September 18, 2009 @ 10:46 am
I’ve spoken to Lion again. They are now aware of it and I was made to understand their Engineering Dept will submit their disagreement for the track plans. We all should do it individually too.
Comment by Mark — September 18, 2009 @ 3:52 pm
Please submit your objection to the rail dept at the link below. I just did mine.
http://www.lrtextension.com/index.php?option=com_aicontactsafe&view=message&layout=message&pf=1&Itemid=139&lang=en
Comment by Mark — September 18, 2009 @ 4:00 pm
I hope Lion Group Engineering group and senior management aware that under the Building and Common Property (Maintenance and Management ) Act [ Act 663 ] {in short BCPA Act 2007} the common property and areas ( in this case the parcel of Tennis Courts and adjacent spaces ) can not be sold without the 100% approval through joint resolution. Again, Lion Group can face legal suit from Unit Owners for misrepresentation of facts that at the material time of sales, there were no information that the LRT will be passing through the SJ and ES. If I was awared that such thing is happening, I would not have taken up a unit.
Registering the disagreement over the internet will not have much effect. To protect ourselves, Lion Group should secure the resolution from all unit owners that we (developer and unit owners) are violently objecting to LRT passing through the SJ and ES. In this case we need only a majority of over 75% . According to BCPA 2007, each unit or joint Unit owner has only one vote irrespect of how many units he/she owns and how small / large the space he/she owns. Can Mark please request Lion Group to initiate the move. Once we have deposit the protect and disagreement, we can move on to take the sequence steps. TKS. (Note : I am no lawyer , just have very pracrtical experiences on BCPA 2007)
Comment by Makgniv — September 18, 2009 @ 5:14 pm
Makgniv, why don’t you initiate the move, since you have the practical experiences on BCPA 2007?
Comment by S — September 18, 2009 @ 7:11 pm
Hi, this is not a one man job. We need a team to handle the situation. I can provide part of the services but we need more than just a few of us. The leader must have the time, which I am short of. Futhermore, this is a thankless job where the bystanders would love to criticise and look good at the sidelines - the Malaysian culture. As I have said, we must work as a group not individual. Currently I am in semester break and will be very busy when new semester starts.But I am willing to be part of the team.
Comment by Makgniv — September 18, 2009 @ 7:36 pm
Pls clarify with Lions Group and the parties involved first on the exact point. Once done and if it is confirmed, my husband and I will not hesitate to extend our agreement against this ridiculous structure. As much as I applaud their effort to provide better/more public transportation, to let the LRT pass through our area is ridiculous.
It will not only devalue our property but also, we didn’t pay so much for our unit to have sound pollution haunting us every day/night. Whoever who came up with this route plan is purely using money to think and not his/her common sense.
Comment by S-Kay — September 19, 2009 @ 12:36 am
Selamat Hari Raya to all muslim readers.
Comment by S — September 21, 2009 @ 1:38 am
anyone knows if the contractor/architect is liable should the length of certain area in our design is shortchanged for.. let’s say about a whoopin 3 feet in length?
Comment by TCNo.1 — September 21, 2009 @ 11:46 pm
I am sure I am 100 % correct. If you read page 1 item 6 of Sales & Purchase Agreement and then page 2, 1.1 definition on Building plan - means the Building plan in respect of the parcel annexed hereto as the second schedule and includes such reasonable amendments, variations or substitution to the buidling plan as may from time to time be made by the Vendor or as required by the Vendor’s consultants or the appropriate anthorities . The developer has all angles covered.
Comment by Makgniv — September 22, 2009 @ 1:58 am
Don’t know if anyone questioned or said you were wrong. Anyway it would definitely help if we are a little less condescending. I’m sure many will be willing to come forward if someone organised some sort of a meeting. However, I think it would be better to talk to the developer to see their plans first. In the meantime we can send in our objections at the LRT website. Every little effort counts so stop telling people that that’s not effective.
Comment by Zhann — September 23, 2009 @ 1:35 pm
Regarding comment 650- R u referring to the four double story bungalow units? I noticed that the land area around those units is way smaller than what was perceived earlier. In fact we considered getting one but had already booked a unit so decided against it.
Comment by julie — September 24, 2009 @ 9:49 am
julie, how much was the double storey units? i may consider to upgrade from my type b
Comment by TCNo.1 — September 24, 2009 @ 11:59 am
OMG! I just came back from my holiday and I saw the responses! I am all for the better transportation but running the tracks through SR and SE is plain ridiculous. What will happen to the tennis court not to mention our bathrooms areas are semi-covered. You can practically see everyone in their bedrooms, living room. I can’t even bare the thought of an accident!
Comment by Proud SR Owner — September 24, 2009 @ 2:16 pm
Cost at that time was about 1m. I don’t know about now tho.
Comment by julie — September 25, 2009 @ 5:25 pm
Just checked on the site.They are still cleaning up the units at this hour. I did not see any lobby on ground floor.I thought there is a waiting lobby,but where had it gone.
Comment by j owner — September 26, 2009 @ 10:46 pm
there’s no waiting lobby in the center. only have waiting area in lobbies in both suria and bayu corners. 3 lifts going up. i dont see a cargo lifts. walked up to my unit. they’re still touching up on things.
Comment by TCNo.1 — September 27, 2009 @ 12:30 am
i owned a 1 bedroom unit (585 sf). i want to buy a 2 bedrooms and sell my 1 bedroom. how much do you think i should price the 1 bedroom?
Comment by SB — September 27, 2009 @ 5:59 am
Look at the brocher again. There is a big waiting area for guest i supposed, but now I can only see three elevator at the exit and no waiting area.
Comment by j owner — September 27, 2009 @ 10:16 pm
Is it true that we are going to get the keys soon? Apparently someone called the office and was told that the keys are ready to be collected by the end of this month and letters are being sent out to all purchasers! Accidentally, I just received a letter from the management saying that the office has now being moved to Bukit Bintang, near Istana Hotel, but they did not mention anything about the keys.
Comment by Z — September 28, 2009 @ 5:36 am
We received a notice re the collection of r keys after the final payment has cleared. So I believe its true that by the end of this month u could collect ur keys.
Comment by julie — September 28, 2009 @ 9:19 am
I’m surprise.
I was at the site yesterday. Went up to take a look at some of the units. There are still plenty of work to be done in these units not to mention cleaning up. Simply put. They are not ready for hand over.
I will understand if they are billing us for ” completion of roads, sewerage etc (5%)”.
Certainly not inclusive of “keys collection..”, the final 5%.
FYI, even the carparking bays are not fully drawn.
Comment by bayutower — September 28, 2009 @ 9:37 am
We went in last week as well and were very surprised when we received the notice. They are definately not ready.
Comment by julie — September 28, 2009 @ 9:44 am
hmm..Unless, there is a final all-out push to get it ready this week, it actually sounds as though they are trying to minimise LAD compensation, hence trying to rush handover even before everything is ready. Probably stagger key handover such that those who bought it the earliest will get the keys first?
Comment by meridien — September 28, 2009 @ 9:46 am
We weren’t one of the first buyers.
Comment by julie — September 28, 2009 @ 9:52 am
We definately we not one of the first buyers.
Comment by julie — September 28, 2009 @ 10:02 am
I am the first buyer but I did not receive any letter concerning the handover of the key?
Comment by j owner — September 28, 2009 @ 12:59 pm
Don’t think the VC goes according to FIFO. As it is the developer is rushing to finish every unit, not necessarily according to a set procedures. So the units that has a list of mandatory works done will be given away first. Btw don’t think it’s a good idea to keep pestering Lion for the handover. It’s already almost completion so let them do the final touch properly. I’m sure Lion is more anxious to give it all away immediately. In the meantime please lend your voice to the LRT feedback.
Comment by Mark — September 28, 2009 @ 1:45 pm
I agree. We are not rushing to get the key as we want them to finish all of the work properly before we have the handover.
Comment by julie — September 28, 2009 @ 2:48 pm
VP instead of VC for comment 669 but I guess I wasn’t misunderstood. Anyway some info on the setting up of a focus group in Subang Jaya. For those who objected to the LRT alignment and staying around Klang Valley, please be our voice. Closing date is tomorrow so please log on to: http://lrttosubangjaya.blogspot.com/
Comment by Mark — September 29, 2009 @ 1:05 pm
Hi,
just got back from Lion property’s new office at jalan nagasari in the one residency building (also by Lion) to enquire about the notice of delivery of vacant possesion.
They have indeed told me (verbally) that i will be entitled to compensation based upon late completion but the amount cannot be finalised yet.
I also enquired if i need to write in to request for compensation and they said no, they will issue a cheque once finalised
My question then was how do they determine how late the project is?? Is it considered completed once they hand over the keys or is it until they get the CF (nube question)??
On the LRT tracks issue, they have told me that Lion will not agree to the proposal and if they do not agree then there is no way the tracks can be built on SR land..
Comment by F type — September 29, 2009 @ 1:13 pm
On item 672 , Lion group can not act unilaterally as these are parcels of common areas /properties jointly owned by all unit owners. I hope Lion Group is aware of this fact if they are being politically pressured to give in. I have tried to call their office for the last three working days and manage only talking to machines. Did Lion group indicated when will they officially deliver the parcel to unit buyers?
Comment by Makgniv — September 29, 2009 @ 2:11 pm
On item 672,
The person i spoke to in Lion said that the date for the discussion with the council has not yet been set. They said that they will surely not agree to the current plans.
I also was not able to reach them on the phone the past two days so i just took a stroll to their office in one residency.. luckily my office nearby..
They just moved to their new office..
Comment by F type — September 30, 2009 @ 10:07 pm
i went to lion’s new office yesterday as i received the letter to make final payment. i was told that they will arange to handover the keys to me by next week once the cheque is cleared. on the late delivery payment, the will based it on the date of the letter of notification on final payment. not on CF. obviously they want to reduce paying late delivery charges. tht’s why despite the road and car park, etc not entirely ready, they still proceed to do handover.
Comment by SB — September 30, 2009 @ 10:18 pm
SB, r u planning on collecting ur keys next wk? I dont know it just seems to me that they couldn’t possibly be ready to give d keys yet. The lifts arent wrking, there’s no guard, the pool isn’t full….we recvd r notice as well but we arent in a rush to do d handover.
Comment by julie — September 30, 2009 @ 11:53 pm
what’s the process like? Do you inspect the place for defects during the key collection and handover? If so, how to inspect if its not completed???
Comment by meridien — October 1, 2009 @ 8:41 am
I have spent about two hours at the Saujana Residency site today touring the site -both Suria and Bayu towers. The site people complain that there are many issues with the project especially with the sub-cons. I walked up to 4th floor at Suria Tower but all units’ doors were locked. There are lightings at the walkway. I spent at least 45 mins in a J unit at 1st floor at Bayu .The Bayu tower is very far from handing over so as the Suria Tower. Swimming Pool and the entire floor is not ready . This floor is nice but the noise polution will deter many to spend quality time there . The lifts ( at least one of them ) are working at the Bayu Tower, I am sure the same for Suria Tower. But the entire project is far from handing over. Why are they hurrrying to ask the unit owners to take the keys? There are no many workers around. The quality of works leave many questions .So we have to be very stringent in checking our unit.
The biggest concern that I have is the “noise polution” which some bloggers have questioned me why I have picked this project in the very first instance. I also take a look at the space between Empire Soho and SJ, there is hardly sufficient space to allow the LRT track to fly over. There is only one Tennis Court. Sorry to say that SJ has lost the luster that we have envisaged. Now it is up the JMB to find ways to make sure SJ stay High-end in this strip of Jalan or at least in our heart.
Comment by Makgniv — October 1, 2009 @ 7:40 pm
i was told by the office when i went to make my final payment that they are planning to hand over the keys next week. they said they will contact me next week to collect the keys at the site. i went over to the site and agree that it is hardly ready. did anyone hear that the LRT track may actually be passing in front of the condo rather than between Empire and SJ?
Comment by SB — October 1, 2009 @ 10:30 pm
ref: 679
I was also told that the lart tracks may pass along the front of SJ, but this plan along with all other plans for the tracks have not yet been confirmed..
having stayed in Subang for a good many years, i have lost count of the number of versions i have heard about the lrt tracks. I have also checked with MPSJ and they said the plans are not confirmed yet and will need further discussions…
Comment by F type — October 2, 2009 @ 8:57 am
As much as I’m concerned regarding the lrt, I believe that this should not deter us from being excited about our new condo! For me, I’m going to concentrate first on the handover and transition before I get too worked up regarding the lrt. As “F type” mentioned, through the years their have been so many different versions of the lrt expansion proposed. Hopefully we can be continue to have a voice and not be “derailed” by this issue. Is it confirmed that their is only one tennis court? I didn’t notice this.
Comment by julie — October 2, 2009 @ 10:18 am
I saw two days ago they were paving a second plot for the second tennis court that is in the brochure…
Comment by F type — October 2, 2009 @ 10:53 am
Are you allowed to go into the construction area and inspect?
Comment by Jo — October 2, 2009 @ 11:24 am
venturing into any construction site is not permitted so do this at ones’ own risk..
having said this, the site is not blocked or guarded and the unit doors were not locked yesterday..
Comment by F type — October 2, 2009 @ 12:04 pm
For those who have an opinion about the LRT running over our tennis courts please leave your comments at the link provided. We have some concerned citizens collating all comments. http://transitmy.org/2009/10/01/they-object/
And a reminder to send your objection to the railway dept. http://www.lrtextension.com/index.php?option=com_aicontactsafe&view=message&layout=message&pf=1&Itemid=139&lang=en
Comment by Mark — October 2, 2009 @ 5:11 pm
Good day, may I know whether any owners has collected their keys?
Comment by Ophelia Tan — October 3, 2009 @ 8:26 pm
We need to get our say together about the manner of this handover. Saujana just cannot say that the handover date is 18 sept. I called the office and was told that it is not complete and asked me to call again next week (the week of Oct 5). That means it is not ready for handover. They are doing this just to avoid the compensation getting higher. I also drove past the front, and there are stray dogs and sand hills everywhere, not to mention nothing of the sort of view that looks like it is ready for habitation. Any suggestion how to get our acts together? Meeting somewhere in SJ perhaps?
Comment by Unit 3A — October 3, 2009 @ 8:27 pm
I am supposed to collect the keys and inspect my unit next week. I am clueless as to what to look for. Can anyone who has experience in this matter let me know what defects I should be looking for?
Comment by Cobra — October 3, 2009 @ 9:33 pm
Any type G owners selling their unit? Please do drop me an email: chsnytan@gmail.com Thanks.
Comment by Ophelia Tan — October 3, 2009 @ 9:50 pm
Sorry, I mean type H. chsnytan@gmail.com Thanks alot
Comment by Ophelia Tan — October 3, 2009 @ 11:00 pm
And type I too.
Comment by Ophelia Tan — October 3, 2009 @ 11:04 pm
Should we focus on the VACANT POSSESSION issue as a GROUP? as currently, it’s obvious that not only they are handling keys to us with much undone, with NO CF, we can’t renovate, can’t stay, can’t do nutd,but to for us to START paying for MAINTENANCE and SINKING FUND (6 MONTHS) is OUTRAGEOUS. What are we maintaining? OBVIOUSLY, LION GROUP is trying to collect our final 10% payment, collect our money and ESCAPE paying fines for late delivery. Can we meet up one of this weekend at the site to plan further?
Comment by TCNo.1 — October 4, 2009 @ 3:25 am
IMO we should first read our contract. Is Lion within their rights to do what they are doing. Did they go beyond what was stipulated. By all means come together and give them hell if they did. Otherwise we may be barking up at the wrong tree. Is there some legal minds out there who can advise?
Comment by Mark — October 4, 2009 @ 9:17 am
Upon certification by Lion’s consultant that building is completed up to item 2(i) of the 4th Schedule, they can deliver VP. This I think was fulfilled. I have not been to the site but reading from comments from some purchasers here that did, it seems some facilities/services have yet to be completed. These fall under Clause 24 for Common Facilities, Amenities and Services which also requires completion within 36 months. However, no remedy was stated here. Can someone advise how completion of such is determined and by who. Can we read it in conjunction with the clause on VP for the purpose of liquidated damages even though it’s listed under the 3rd Schedule and not the 4th?
Comment by Mark — October 4, 2009 @ 12:01 pm
LION might have their rights thru SPA to cover their @$$ and protect their pocket or fill their pocket, but, as a consumer, we could highlight these tactics of theirs to the press or consumer rights group. If LION GROUP is reading this, i’m not sure what i’ll do, but i'’ll sure do something…
Comment by TCNo.1 — October 5, 2009 @ 12:50 am
Cobra, I would think that you want to look at quality of workmanship. Do the doors close. Are the tiles put in properly. In the shower - does the water drain out or does it sit on the floor…any cracks…any bulges in the walls..any residue or marks where they stained the frames of the doors, ect. Do the taps work?
Comment by julie — October 5, 2009 @ 11:27 am
Hi All, do we have to pay two deposits for the electricity - one for our unit and the other for the common area?
Comment by RichLock — October 5, 2009 @ 1:18 pm
Hi, Anyone selling Saujana Residency Type H?
Please contact me at 0124848774, Thank you very much.
Comment by KarFai — October 5, 2009 @ 2:49 pm
On Oct 05, 2009, I met Ms. Tay and En. Zul at their new office at One-Residency.
I have brought up three major concerns:-
a. Please refer to S&P clause 26 - once the notice is given , two weeks later property is deemed to have handed over whether you are taking possession or not . There are hardly any security in SJ. Thus Lion Group is protected by their S&P when all our air-cond units, toilet fixtures , doors and windows are all disappeared which are very very likely with the current Malaysia security situation.
b. Three months to get CF. I attended a few property talk and were given the understanding that the Vendor / developer’s architect ( after 2007) are empowered to issue CCF w/o the the 3 months waiting . Are there anyone who can counter check this point with your legal advisors ? Otherwise , we can only move in after Chinese New Year.
C. The management Fees- they have not decide which month to start . My question: What management fee when there are no security? There are no CF etc. Are all these the responsibilities of Lion Group until they get us the CF ?
They told me to hold on to the final payment which I have handed over to Ms Tay until their project management get back to me .
Would suggest please call Ms. Melissa Liew , Ms. Tay and Ms K.P Loh to have your problems answered. I notice most of the Lion Group staff are taking hands-off attitude toward the issues. Can we demand a meeting with them in group to get some comfort?
May be it is time to form the pro-temp JMB to take care of out property . En. Zul has just called me that there are security and the property is in its final touch up works - please judge for yourselves. Thanks
Comment by Makgniv — October 5, 2009 @ 3:42 pm
for Item 697, for common areas / properties , all power, water, and maintenance are cover in the management fees. We should not pay any deposit for the common areas .
I lived in Apartment before, theft and break-ins are weekly affairs if not alternative days even when the service apartment is 90% filled up, I move to landed property after one year. This is the current home safety hazard we have to face in Malaysia. Sad story.
Comment by Makgniv — October 5, 2009 @ 3:50 pm
how do we meet? Suggestions? Time is running out. I’m in SJ. I will check this site twice or three times a day and will join any meeting at the site or nearby.
Comment by Jo — October 5, 2009 @ 6:31 pm
Post 696 : Julie, thanks for your excellent advice which I have noted. Additional advice on this matter by anyone else would be much appreciated.
Comment by Cobra — October 6, 2009 @ 12:09 am
I found this site very informative on rights concerning late possession and CF.
http://www.hba.org.my/faq/list.htm
Comment by meridien — October 6, 2009 @ 7:49 am
All,
I would like to propose we meet up this coming Friday at McD Subang Parade say around 4:00PM to discuss way forward as well as going over to SR for inspection. Can I have a show of hands if you’re available and interested for this meet up?
Comment by Outsider — October 6, 2009 @ 8:52 am
Dear ALL,
Please read the following. Does this means that Suajana Heights Sdn Bhd and Lion Group shoud use CCC instead of CFO to deliver the parcel? Is it Saujana Height Sdn Bhd use CFO as an excuse to evade further responsibility ??? Is it interesting if some lawyers among the unit Owners can provide free cost interpret on this new law .
CCC Ensures Full Accountability, Says Ong
14/04/2007 Bernama
KUALA LUMPUR, April 13 (Bernama) — The parties that issue the Certificate of Compliance and Completion (CCC) for building projects will be held accountable for its safety forever, said Housing and Local Government Minister Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting.
He said this was because the trust had been placed in the issuing parties who are from professional groups like architects and engineers unlike previously under the Certificate of Fitness for Occupation (CFO) system that was handled by local authorities.
“The people who put down their signatures on the CCCs know what is required of them and any false representation will lead to their professionalism being questioned,” he said when interviewed by Malaysian National News Agency (BERNAMA) Chairman Datuk Annuar Zaini in the 60 Minutes With a Minister programme on the RTM1 television channel tonight.
Ong said more than one person will be responsible under the CCC system, which requires 21 forms to be processed for each part of the building process.
“For example, when an engineer has completed a structure, the architect will have to verify that it is to specifications and countersign the appropriate forms. The same will apply for the other aspects of a building like piping, wiring and others.”
“Thus, for every stage of the building, there will people responsible for it and the professional groups will have to make the appropriate verifications until all the 21 forms are completed,” he said.
Ong said the CCC system provided better guarantees compared to the previous one.
However, he said, the local authorities still reserved the right to inspect the buildings to ascertain that they are safe.
The Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi today when announcing the steps to be taken to improve the delivery system of local authorities said the CCC would help resolve many of the problems that were faced under the CFO system.
He also said that a commissioner of buildings post would be created to look into problems faced by buyers of high rise units.
— BERNAMA
Comment by Makgniv — October 6, 2009 @ 10:55 am
The counter to that is the news article below:
Only New Projects To Follow New CFO System
13/04/2007 Bernama
PETALING JAYA, April 13 (Bernama) — New projects from now on will be subjected to the Certificate of Compliance and Completion (CCC) system which replaces the Certificate of Fitness for Occupancy (CFO), Housing and Local Government Minister Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting said today.
“Projects which have already started or are halfway through will still follow the old CFO system,” he told reporters when asked to elaborate on the initiatives announced by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi regarding steps taken by the government to reduce bureaucracy at the level of the local authority.
Ong said all relevant officers at his ministry had received the new guidelines and were ready to implement the new system.
“We will also monitor it,” he said, adding that he would elaborate on the initiatives at a news conference by his ministry tomorrow.
Ong was at the special news conference when Abdullah announced that the “one-stop centre” concept practised by some local authorities formed the main thrust of improvements that would be made in the public delivery system at that level.
Abdullah, in his announcement, said the replacement of the CFO by the CCC for the handing over of completed structures to buyers of buildings and the provision for a commissioner of buildings were also steps in the right direction to resolve problems between buyers and developers.
— BERNAMA
Comment by meridien — October 6, 2009 @ 11:07 am
McD Subang Parade, 4pm this Friday 9 Oct is fine with me. Any one else?
Comment by Jo — October 6, 2009 @ 3:40 pm
Unable to commit but will try my best to drop by on fri.
Comment by zali — October 6, 2009 @ 4:02 pm
Friday McD, Subang Parade - Two frm r side.
Comment by julie — October 6, 2009 @ 4:25 pm
Outstation. Will attend if my schedule changes.
Comment by Mark — October 6, 2009 @ 5:19 pm
Very tight schedule. May be
Comment by Makgniv — October 6, 2009 @ 5:46 pm
We will be there. Last payment already made on 30th Sept. without any notice from the developer.
Comment by j owner — October 7, 2009 @ 12:02 am
I am in Langkawi at the moment, so can’t make it. I received my final payment notice yesterday. I talked to Melissa Liew on the phone regarding compensation and keys handover. She said once I paid my final bill, they will calculate the compensation due, based on the date I signed my s&p but did not mention how late is the project! She also said once my cheque is cleared, they will call me for the keys collection. I am sending my cheque this morning. Unfortunately they will charge interest if you don’t want to pay your final bill or if you pay late!
Comment by Zainal — October 7, 2009 @ 7:50 am
I would like to joint you guys this Friday, but unable to take leave as I just came back from a long hari raya leave. I’ve paid my final payment last Friday. They said, I can collect my key within this week, but to wait for their call. They told me tt they won’t charge any late payment interest on the final payment. When I asked them about the maintainance fees tt we have to pay before the project is 100% completed, they said tt they will issue a letter to purchasers on the effective date of the fees collected.
Comment by siti — October 7, 2009 @ 11:21 am
Hi,all
Can the meeting be moved to this Sunday to allow many more people to join in?
Comment by Makgniv — October 7, 2009 @ 1:03 pm
Sunday would be better. Maybe we could meet at the McDonald’s near Subang Parade by the Mosque? Less ppl and easier to park w traffic on a Sunday?
Comment by julie — October 7, 2009 @ 3:19 pm
Please confirm the date and venue and we will be there provided there isn’t another more urgent matter to attend to.
Comment by RichLock — October 7, 2009 @ 3:53 pm
OK make it Sunday la. Either way ok for me. Mc’D near the mosque is good place.
So how about this: Sunday, Oct 11, 4 pm, Mc’D (drive thru) near the mosque. Setuju all?
Comment by Jo — October 7, 2009 @ 4:25 pm
I have a unit in Floor 3A or 4th floor. Does 4th floor still have superstitious attachments among potential buyers? Will I get same market value?
Comment by Alex — October 7, 2009 @ 4:28 pm
fine wit me.
Comment by zali — October 7, 2009 @ 4:29 pm
If it is on Sunday , two of us( joint Purchasers) will attend. Tks.
Item 704 : Outside : what say you ?
Comment by Makgniv — October 7, 2009 @ 5:23 pm
Ok. So sounds like it will be on Sunday at the McDonald’s drive thru, by the mosque, near Subang Parade at 4pm. Someone else please confirm this so that we all know where to go.
Comment by julie — October 7, 2009 @ 5:52 pm
Fine with me. Hope someone will put up a notice at McDonald for all to congregate.
Comment by RichLock — October 7, 2009 @ 7:41 pm
Sunday is good for me as well
Comment by meridien — October 7, 2009 @ 8:22 pm
we will be there on sunday.
Comment by j owner — October 7, 2009 @ 10:52 pm
Sunday 4pm at McD is ok for me.
Comment by Outsider — October 7, 2009 @ 11:12 pm
All,
Suggest we meet at McD Subang Parade Sunday, 11am (less car and less people) and it is more convenient if we decide to walk over to SR for inspection and take some pixs.
Comment by Outsider — October 7, 2009 @ 11:21 pm
Suggst lets fix it at Sunday at 4.00PM as morning is the busy time for some family activities .
Comment by Makgniv — October 7, 2009 @ 11:53 pm
Dear all, i paid my last installment to shing ying last week and on 7th oct she fixed the date of key collection on 19th oct 09 for me. She said she can only attend to 3 buyers a day as there are only three staffs on her division. I could not stand my curiosity and went to check on the project. It is a beautiful project and has impressive character. There are plenty of minor minor things to touch up to complete. It will take a while i think. I can imagine how beautiful it will be once touched up and polished. It is not warm even with the sun shining and windows all closed,to my surprise. The side facing federal highway has a significant constant hum from the traffic even with all windows closed. The palms may provide some noise barrier when fully grown but higher then tree top the noise may still be significant. The windows look good but i hope some specialist can really sound proof my unit. I like the wooden panels around the lifts. The door to individual units are large and nice. I like the J type very much as it is very bright and sunny and offers lots of views and larger than my i type. Any one wishes to let go of the type j or K type please let me know ya. My number is 014-3622815 or email clshue@gmail.com. Will be outstation this sunday but hope to joint you all in the coming months. Cheers to all.
Comment by i-owner too — October 8, 2009 @ 3:19 am
unable to commit but will try my best as I have an open house invitation from a close family outside KL
Comment by siti — October 8, 2009 @ 8:40 am
Hope this is OK with the majority:
Timing: 4:00PM, Sunday
Venue: Uncle Lim Kopitiam Subang Parade (reason - Can join tables and can also have private corner for discussion. It is located opposite MPH book store, Ground Floor)
Agenda:
1. Outstanding issues related to V.P.
2. LRT
3. AOB
4. Site inspection (common facilities) may be?
Since this is the first meeting, let’s aim to complete this by 5:30PM.
I can be contacted at 017-2710808
Tan
Comment by Outsider — October 8, 2009 @ 8:52 am
I spoke to the project manager yesterday. Apparently keys were being handed out from the 7th. Suria Tower is all cleared and Bayu is in the process. Except for some minor details everything is completed. The project is working towards issuing the CCC in less than 3 months, with all 21 forms approved. Telekom and Tenaga already cleared. Fire Dept scheduled for next week. IWK and the rest coming up. Not very forthcoming on the LRT. He said the management will be meeting the state authority on the LRT later. No security from the management yet. One other thing is confirmed, there’s no main waiting lobby as described in the sales brochure. I quote the brochure “Then the unfolding-the elegant formal foyer and waiting lounge”. This is clearly misleading and non-conformance. Maybe you guys can include that as a meeting agenda. I will join if I’m in town.
Comment by Mark — October 8, 2009 @ 10:08 am
Pls finalize the venue. thanks.
Comment by j owner — October 8, 2009 @ 11:23 am
Quite dissapointed without the waiting area. I thought It will be like a five star stay with comfortable waiting lobby for our guest. It is also one of the selling point. Very misleading brocher.
Comment by j owner — October 8, 2009 @ 11:28 am
OK I’m in too for the meeting. Also, we should check the appliances they give (in certain units I think) such as aircond, hot water, sinks and dryer.
Comment by AR — October 8, 2009 @ 11:35 am
Collecting my keys this friday at 4pm
see you folks this sunday at MCD’s
Comment by F type — October 8, 2009 @ 12:02 pm
All,
Meeting confirmed as follow:
Timing: 4:00PM, Sunday
Venue: Uncle Lim Kopitiam Subang Parade
Agenda:
1. Outstanding issues related to V.P.
2. LRT
3. AOB
4. Site inspection (common facilities)
Comment by Outsider — October 8, 2009 @ 1:16 pm
ncle Lim confirmed.
Comment by j owner — October 8, 2009 @ 2:15 pm
ok, see u guys later.
Comment by zali — October 8, 2009 @ 2:29 pm
Received the keys yesterday and inspected the unit. Quite dissapointing overall
1) Workmanship in the unit is very poor. crooked walls, uneven surfaces, shoddy painting etc. Everyone be prepared to inspect your units very carefully
2) The facilities generally seem fine. One dissapointing thing is that the gym equipment provided is insufficient to cater for almost 400 units. The gym is tucked away in a small corner of the entire area and seemed to only have 1 treadmill, 1 weight station, 1 cycle etc. Project manager confirmed that this is all the developer is providing, which IMO is a joke.
Comment by meridien — October 9, 2009 @ 11:05 am
Your info really gave me a shock. I thought we have a big gym which over looking the pool. I gave away my membership of Holiday Villa last month to my friends as I thought they will equip our gym with latest equipments.I hope we can do something about it. I thought Lion group is a reputable com.
do they face any financial difficulties lately?
Comment by j owner — October 9, 2009 @ 12:53 pm
Meridien, are you reallllly realllly sure????
Comment by Bayu — October 9, 2009 @ 7:21 pm
I hope I’m wrong, but don’t think I am, unless I am misinformed. Anybody else had a chance to get their keys yet - please share your experience
Comment by meridien — October 9, 2009 @ 7:41 pm
As Unit owners, we have the final control on the destination of Saujana Residency. Obviously Lion Group / Saujana Heights Sdn Bhd have to honour the satisfactory handover of the property inclusive of the common areas / parcels. The BCPA 2007 allows the Unit Owners to take over the property once the CCC or CFO has been issued by forming the Joint Management Board (JMB). Again the BCPA 2007 dictates that the management fees collected are solely for the maintenance of the common properties. We can make the GYM and all common areas among the best in the city .
Comment by Makgniv — October 10, 2009 @ 12:47 am
meridien, in no.740, you wrote that you got the keys and inspected the unit yourself. In 743, you said you hope you “were wrong, unless you were misinformed”. Wasnt you the one who inspected???
Comment by Unit 3A — October 10, 2009 @ 1:42 am
On 745: I was referring to the info provided by the project manager that the developer was not adding any gym equipment beyond what is already there. Hopefully I am mis-informed there. However, like makgniv said, it might be up to the jmb to buy more equipment later on with our maintenance fees. Although I’m not sure I like the idea of paying for something that should reasonably be provided by Lion group….
As for my unit - I have inspected it personally and found it unsatisfactory. the defects that we identify will be rectified of course. It’s just demoralising when you first look at it.
Swimming pool looks great though!
Comment by meridien — October 10, 2009 @ 3:03 am
I felt relief after hearing from you guys. At least there is still hope for improvement.
Comment by j owner — October 10, 2009 @ 12:24 pm
I thought we had a pretty good meeting this afternoon. A number of issues were discussed and I plan to upload key discussion points in a newly created Saujana Residency’s google group. For your info, this is a restricted group and the membership is only open to Saujana Residency’s owners and residents.
Please click the following link http://groups.google.com/group/saujana-residency for registration. You need need to provide your name, unit number, email, and contact number for validation purposes.
Thanks.
Comment by Outsider — October 11, 2009 @ 9:47 pm
My husband updated me on the meeting and I thought it was a good effort for a first meeting. Hopefully things will progress positively from hereon.
Comment by S-Kay — October 11, 2009 @ 11:04 pm
The checklist for vacant possession is now available at Saujana Residency’s Google Group. Please sign-in to view.
Comment by M2 United/Outsider — October 12, 2009 @ 2:17 pm
I went to have a look at the apratment which is unguarded! Nearly everybody can walk in. Saw a couple of casual shoppers from SP still carrying their shopping bags looking inside the apartment.
Anyway I am very shocked to find that there is no guest foyer as promised by the Developer. There is only a lift lobby which is half-done and most facilities are still not ready. How can they issue VP when it is in that state?
Comment by Proud SR Owner — October 13, 2009 @ 12:18 pm
I think we will need to be a bit more careful when discussing about the security in an open forum. Suggest you register in our restricted owners/residents only google group and we can discuss further.
Comment by M2 United/Outsider — October 13, 2009 @ 1:36 pm
i received a letter several weeks ago about the delivery of vacant possession and outstanding due from purchaser. However, due to the late delivery they promised to compensate 10% of the purchase price prorated to the number of days. As such, my father spoke to Ms Tay on 9th Oct and request to pay the balance nett compensation (worked out to be lion group paying us instead of we paying them). But, Ms Tay said they will only pay half of the proposed sum, i.e. 50% x(10% x purchase price x days delayed / 365). We find that ridiculous! We disagreed with her and refused to sign it.. and now i would like to know if any of you have agreed to it??
Comment by Jocelyn — October 15, 2009 @ 8:18 pm
Jocelyn and proud sr owner pls refer to 748 for registration.
Comment by j owner — October 16, 2009 @ 1:28 pm
LRT is welcomed for the greater good of SJ and Malaysia.
The land was earmarked through hearsay a long time ago for LRT extensions. Now it’s just hearsay turning reality.
Positioning LRT in a high density population makes the most sense to ease congestion and provide transportation facility with the greatest outreach.
Property values will also appreciate.
Lastly, don’t be a NIMBY! Sime Darby should be the one taking heat on this for any dissatisfaction for not including this in their city plans.
Comment by SJ Resident — October 16, 2009 @ 5:19 pm
Look in your contract. At the time of sale, there are no known notice of acquisition. If there are indeed plans to cut the line through then they should have moved earlier and have the people informed. Whatever hearsay you are referring to doesn’t count. This is not a case of NIMBY, as no one objected to the LRT station being where it is. It’s the way the track cuts through our spaces that’s problematic.
Comment by Mark — October 16, 2009 @ 6:01 pm
Please don’t be rushed into accepting the units. I have visited the site yesterday and the whole project is still not ready. There is a lot more work to be done, easily at least 3 months more to go. It is a joke to hand over the keys as the unit of mine does not even have the main door installed. I wonder why the project engineer endorsed the completion verification. Guess we may have to raise this to the professional body on the conduct of the engineering consultant.
There was an issued raised on the utilites deposits for common areas. I am not paying and I hope others will follow. The developer has an obligation to provide the services for all common areas until the Joint Management Committee is formed. The contractual relationship for the common areas is between the utilities provider and the developer. On our part, we are paying the management service fees (3 months deposit and 3 months advance). Even then why are paying these when the whole unit is not even ready. What service!
From the comments in this blog, I have a feeling that the developer is indifferent to the owners’ interest. We may have to join force to engage legal representation to represent our interests.
Comment by Bayu — October 18, 2009 @ 10:02 am
Jocelyn, (post 753) I too was offered 50% of the (10% x purchase price x days delayed / 365). I refused to sign the form and insisted on full 100%. I couldn’t find anywhere in the S&P about this nonsense of 50%.
Comment by Cobra — October 18, 2009 @ 8:30 pm
Would suggest all unit owners stand united and refuse to give in to the gun-pointed forced 50% discount. After all, Lion Group has charged us for the late payment. On 757, we need all Unit owners to sign a resolution to share the legal costs if we decide to joint force to contest again Lion Group. Some one has to initiate this. Thanks
Comment by Makgniv — October 19, 2009 @ 2:09 am
On Comment 744 by Makgniv:
Using the Maintenance Fees money to rectify the Gym? A very silly suggestion indeed. Are you linked to the developer? Whatever original that should have been provided by the developer, should be rectified using the Developer’s own money! This includes defects under warranty, incomplete facilities, etc. The money from Maintenance Fees belong to the residents and shouldn’t be touched!!!
Comment by Reader — October 20, 2009 @ 3:30 pm
Reader. Please wake up. The world is not necessary look the same that you want. Have you read your S&P very detailedly that they will furnish the Gym to your liking? Did they specified what types and numbers of equupments ? The way they handover the VP illustrates the high-ended action they have adopted. What if (I am sure they do their best to protect their image)they did not provide the so called desire equipments. What option that we can have? This is a blog all of us can suggest what we can do . You do not have to insert words that are not nice to read . Furthermore , have you been to the GYM and see what additional equipments they have installed . Many of us love to open our mouths before using our thinking power.
Comment by Makgniv — October 20, 2009 @ 3:52 pm
There’s NO YARD for all units below 1,360sq.ft.NO place to put our washer, dryer, hang clothes.Bathroom are too small to put them unless we sacrifice our master bathroom.Rather disappointing!
Comment by zack — October 20, 2009 @ 6:48 pm
do you think a king-sized bed can fit into the master bedroom (of a 994 unit) ?
Comment by Bayu — October 20, 2009 @ 7:18 pm
Hi all,
Can anyone advise me on the payment of misc charges.
Why should we pay for the water & electricity deposit for the common area as well ??????????
Comment by ker soh peng — October 21, 2009 @ 12:37 am
pls advise asap due to collect key soon.
Comment by ker soh peng — October 21, 2009 @ 12:41 am
Please allow me to share my experience. I owned another high-end condo since 1995. The developer paid for the deposits of power and water for the common areas . Since BCPA Act 2007 come into place and JMB has taken over but no money to pay back the deposit.(JMB and Developer are at legal contest) Lion Group can have two options :-
a. Use the 3 months+3 months to pay for the deposit which run into hundreds of thousand if not million. We can transfer the same to the new buyer if we sell the unit.
b. Get the unit owners to pay for them as we are all sharing the common areas ownership. Lion Group can not have any legal title to the common areas.They are trying to avoid funding the deposit for common areas which are not legally owned by them and face difficulty to get them back at a later stage ( There are many cases ).
When the JMB takes over later , we must have the approved architecture drawing clearly mark with the rightful common areas. Again, I have no relationship with Lion Group. This is to share my experience if anyone think it is worth two cents.
Comment by Makgniv — October 21, 2009 @ 2:37 am
On comment 761 by Makgniv:
You don’t understand my simple point? You just proved my point that you are giving bad suggestions.
You said (rephrase): What if they did not provide the so called desire equipments. What option that we can have?
You already assumed and give excuse on behalf of developer, that they don’t provide the desired equipment. And instead of pressuring the developer to keep their end of the bargain, you are ever willing to use the residents’ money to correct this wrong. I hope you get what I’m trying to say.
Hmm, I should launch a new condo project and sell it to buyers like Makgniv. Then I conveniently exclude the swimming pool, the gym, etc and then all the buyers will agree to use their own Maintenance Fees to finish up the construction. How profitable for the developer!
Comment by Reader — October 21, 2009 @ 6:03 pm
Reader, please stop this non-sense. Please take the lead to go after Lion Group .Don’t waste your time in this blog.
Comment by Makgniv — October 21, 2009 @ 6:34 pm
Please don’t fight among ourselves! Pink power!
Comment by Gay Resident — October 21, 2009 @ 7:10 pm
Haiyyaa…my worst nitemare..hope you Mr Gay Resident are not my neighbour. Call me a homophobic or whatever.
Comment by Unit Buyer — October 21, 2009 @ 9:27 pm
boikot any project developed by LION GROUP…WHO the IDIOT Project in charge for this project…FIRE them…
Comment by Me Idiot buyer — October 21, 2009 @ 11:20 pm
Since LION group boss is Tan Sri William, to all buyers kindly let their BOSS know what the “kind” products handed to us, just drop a “alert” email to him acccim@acccim.org.my, to all buyers pls be union and send your complaint directly to their boss.
Comment by Me Idiot buyer — October 21, 2009 @ 11:29 pm
kindly cc to kongchoha@kpkt.gov.my too….like the lady email to Hishamuddin, we need to use vary channel to fight our rights. Dun cheat us again.
Comment by fight for the rights — October 21, 2009 @ 11:55 pm
The unit owners should form an action committee or protemp Joint Management board to have the strong platform to get every unit owners to sign a protest letter or engage a law firm to represent us . This cost money and could take years to get the court to decide basing on VK Lingham bad example .May be we can approach the commissioner of Bulding (COB)for Subang Jaya to advice. But someone has to take the lead .
Comment by Co-owner — October 22, 2009 @ 1:49 am
This blog is for everyone to participate and to speak our minds or whatever he or she wants. This is the freedom that all blogger wants. Others should not add insults and please be more level headed. There are bloggers who love to put other bloggers down for no apparent reason and for couple of second cheap thrill. Can those who have the very unwanted habit to insult others to stay calm and may be reframe from making any unnecessary insults. Our target is Lion Group for their bad delivery of promises. No wonders Lion Group is out of top 30 developers in Malaysia. Cheers
Comment by Suria Tower — October 22, 2009 @ 1:58 am
Notice from another site which I have reproduced here. We don’t have much time to voice our objection. So please do it before it’s too late. I’m beginning to wonder if Lion is just paying lip service to the LRT issue. Anyone heard anything about a meeting?
“The Ad-Hoc committee is now trying to get more formal feedback from the residents of Subang Jaya and USJ.
You will start to see banners on the overhead bridges on Pers. Kewajipan and Pers. Tujuan as well as at the proposed sites of the stations.
Information about the LRT extension can be found at the following links:
Ad Hoc Committee website - http://lrttosubangjaya.blogspot.com
TRANSIT website - http://transitmy.org/2009/09/15/lrt-public-display/
Official site - http://lrtextension.com/
Feedback forms can be found at these links:
English Feedback Form
BM Feedback Form
How to submit your Comments/Feedback
Please submit this Feedback Form by:
25 November 2009 (Wednesday)
By Hand: Drop into the designated box provided at the Lobby, MPSJ Complex - USJ5
By Fax: 03-5631 2757
By Mail:
c/o P O Box 3215,
47509 Subang Jaya,
Selangor D.E.
Feedback forms can also be obtained from MPSJ, ADUN Subang Jaya’s Office, participating JKPs and Residents Associations.”
Comment by Mark — October 22, 2009 @ 1:46 pm
Mark,could you take the lead role in forming a workgroup on LRT issues bearing in mind there may be some portion of the SJ unit owners love to have the LRT at our door step . Please call a meeting soon?
Comment by Co-owner — October 22, 2009 @ 7:18 pm
I think we should make the LRT issue a little clearer. Most do not mind the LRT station located as proposed. In fact we welcomed it. It is the alignment of the track over part of Saujana Residency land, which has yet to be acquired by the way, that is not acceptable. It’s not like that is the only space the track could go through to Jln Jengka as there are several other options available. Don’t think SR should compromise so that Prasarana could save a few bucks. We already have a commitee for LRT Subang Jaya tackling the issues on behalf of all SJ residents. All we need to do is articulate SR concerns and objections so that it get included in their eventual counter proposal to the authorities. Besides that, we should also provide feedback to the official LRT website and check out on what Lion is doing about it. Btw I don’t live in Klang Valley so that’s only so much I can do.
Comment by Mark — October 23, 2009 @ 9:38 am
HI.. I’m interested to buy a type H unit. If there is anybody interested to sell can email me at jr222@yaho.com. Thanks…
Comment by JeremyT — October 24, 2009 @ 8:32 pm
Hi, My name is Winson Chong, anyways i am interest in C,D,E,and F Units,if anybody interest to sell can email at Wisnonchong_89@hotmail.com
Comment by Winson Chong — October 25, 2009 @ 1:34 am
pls set up committee to weed out gays and pondans! i dun want to stay with them.
Comment by Unit Buyer — October 27, 2009 @ 2:51 pm
Who is this damn idiot called Unit buyer? He is afraid of being raped huh??? Lets get rid of him to hell and his bloody righteous attitude before he poisons the whole condo!
Comment by Sick-of-it — October 27, 2009 @ 3:29 pm
Just a word of caution. This is an open forum and there is no way we can know if one is a genuine owner of SR.
Suggest we just ignore those comments that do not contribute much.
Comment by M2 United/Outsider — October 27, 2009 @ 7:09 pm
I appeal to all to treat this blog with kindness and respect. Reserve your negative comments. We should have 1Saujana Residency spirit where all can live harmoniously. We should channel our effort to get Lion Group to deliver their promises. This world is consist of different kind of people who make it very interesting. Lets live happily and accomodate each other as long as we are not violating any regulations and laws. Please bear in mind that we are all joint owners of this SR. For those who are not unit owners, we thank you for the positive contribution. Cheer .
Comment by Suria Tower — October 27, 2009 @ 9:34 pm
Lets use this blog to provide input positively to make SR one of the best property, freely and sincerely, and without the insult and negative comments. We need to understand that every one of us have different outlook and mindsets. But we have to respect each other. For those who want to throw out their frustrations, there is the Lion Group that you we can target to make them understand we want better product from them. Show them you want respect and please treat the other unit owners with kindness and patience.
Can we please? Do not abuse this blog please.
Comment by Co-Owner — October 27, 2009 @ 9:44 pm
If you guys dare to fight each other here just bcos of non sense argument, why not dare to voice up to Lion Group to fight SR rights. We get the worst product in M’sia and cheated by them. Just do protect our rights and send as many as complaint letter to MOH as soon as possible. Don’t be NATO (No Action Talk Only)member. Nobody will compliment u if u get win in such non sense fighting here. Our target is LOUSY GROUP (SICK LION).Damn irresponsible developer in the town. We pay so much money but at last get so big “present” from them. Or drop a feedback form to them to their website http://www.lion.com.my/WebCorp/Homepage.nsf/FeedbackUser
Comment by Danny Wong — October 28, 2009 @ 1:04 am
If you guys dare to fight each other here just bcos of non sense argument, why not dare to voice up to Lion Group to fight SR rights. We get the worst product in M’sia and cheated by them. Just do protect our rights and send as many as complaint letter to MOH as soon as possible. Don’t be NATO (No Action Talk Only)member. Nobody will compliment u if u get win in such non sense fighting here. Our target is LOUSY GROUP (SICK LION).Damn irresponsible developer in the town. We pay so much money but at last get so big “present” from them. Or drop a feedback form to them to their website
http://www.lion.com.my/WebCorp/Homepage.nsf/FeedbackUser
Comment by Danny Wong — October 28, 2009 @ 1:05 am
No.719,Alex r u keen to sell yr unit? pls email me at
charyslim@gmail.com
Comment by maryanna — October 28, 2009 @ 3:26 pm
It seems a lot of Estate Agents are searching for sellers for SR units. I think most of us unit owners here have been getting calls from the property agents. A point also to note there is also lot of trouble makers here.
Comment by Luke — October 28, 2009 @ 4:38 pm
I think the real estate agent got their list today and started calling one by one. I received a call this afternoon from an agent located in Cheras and told her will consider selling or renting when the rate meets my expectation. For your info, Subang Park Home in SS19, the developer is selling > RM 500 per sf.
Just like 784 and 785, I would like to appeal to all to stop making unsubstantiated allegations and comments that will affect the value of this property.
Comment by M2 United/Outsider — October 28, 2009 @ 4:49 pm
There r 2 staircase doors on the ground floor, outside the building, faces Subang Parade.It’s rather risky. Any strangers can just walk up the staircase that leads to the units as the doors are not locked at all.Can we bring this up to the management.
Comment by bayuBT — October 28, 2009 @ 5:34 pm
To All Owner,pls do not sell ur unit if the price is not good.My friend just bought Subang Parkhome 1200sf(third floor) about 691k.Saujana residency location is better and should demand higher price!!
Comment by ker soh peng — October 29, 2009 @ 12:01 am
Do anyone knows the selling prices of those untis in Tiaraville or eTiara or Subang Avenue next to Carrefour? These units’ current selling prices could better reflect what price can SR unit sell. I have dream that SR can sell RM600 / sq ft before the end of year 2009. Agreed that SR unit owners hold your units till the price is the best unless you are in financial trap.
Comment by Co-Owner — October 29, 2009 @ 12:56 am
Hi Danny , I have sent four protest emails addressed to same four persons in Suajana Heights Sdn Bhd but no one care to even reply. With the exception that the customer service officer called me up to convey the message there are security guard to protect the buildings. Have anyone see one security guard yet ? I have met them and refused to pay until I am satisfy with the situation. I know some of the unit owners have voiced out by sending protest letters. There are many like me have taken individual actions which Lion Group doesn’t seems to care. We did not broadcasted as we do not want to downgrade our property. Taking legal actions take money and times. We can complain to Ministry of Housing, the commissioner of Building just next door, and even to Permudah. But so far we have achieve nothing. Can anyone suggest better ideas. Mr. Danny Wong - can you suggest how we can reach the ears and eyes of top management of Lion Group?
Comment by Suria Tower — October 29, 2009 @ 1:17 am
Personally I don’t think Lion Group really care. If you are not happy they are more than willing to buy the unit off you. With the capital appreciation around this area and their subsidiary “Parkson” just situated across the road, it makes commercial sense for Lion to own a few units in SR.
Comment by Luke — October 29, 2009 @ 9:54 am
It looks like we have to succumb to the “Careless” attitudes of Lion Group or “you don’t like it, I buy back” taiko behavior. But we just can not compromise . Should we ?Unless we are willing to divest and earn a quick return. However I bought the unit for own stay. I hope Lion Group takes the lesson on how BN lost five states in last GE. May be we should go to the press to give them a bad publicity? Ministry of Housing , C.O.B and Permudah are so inefficient that I have totally lost faith in them . I know a condo project which have sent hundreds of protest (legal) letters to these mentioned public agencies for three years and nothing have been done or improved. We have protested up to DG and SG level w/o any positive results and was told that the BCPA 2007 is currently under re-write and re-submission.It will take another two years to table in the Parliament. The court case is already 4 years long and definitely take at least 10 years to get a final judgment.
The lawyers are laughing to their banks. Worst of all SR is under commercial title where Ministry of Housing has conviently forget to protect it or is too weak to even voice out on behalf of consumer. The businessmen come first.
Just wonders what other options can we have. Any good suggestion?
Comment by Co-owner — October 30, 2009 @ 1:05 am
Just to substantiate 796,the protest letters have had over 385- to 569 unit owners’ signatories ( some dropped out at later stage ). We engaged legal firm who are involved in the drafting of the new BCP Act . Thus they are expert on these issues . It is long haul and costly. I am NOT pouring ice water on the government agencies especially with the cutrrent situation. We have lost faith in their indifference. We have gone through four years of agony and still many more years to go . That was I picked Lion Group project to invest this time. Again,I have fallen into the “Lion trap”. It is a big fish eat small fish world. Just wonders can the smaller fishes hit back? I was told that about 40% of us paid cash for the investment. I am sure we have the financial capacities to go to court with Lion Group. Question is : are we willing to go to the full length.
Comment by Co-owner — October 30, 2009 @ 1:25 am
Fishy and Jungan Lunga : the unit owners are confronted with some real problems on hand. There are no place for fun in a serious situation. If you are not unit owners,please understand others’ problem. We are not talking politics and we all earned our money honestly and do not want to be cheated. We do not look toward hand down from the society and social welfare. Stop been so unhuman and do not be jealous. Work hard for yourself. You wil get there somedays. This blog is for serious matter. Stop hiding from the blog and make fun of others. You have to respect others right. After all, we are trying to communicate and share ideas and experiences. If you are unit owners, be serious, If you are not, positive suggestions are welcome. No joking matter please.
Comment by SR Onwers — October 30, 2009 @ 12:59 pm
Hi Fishy and J. Lunga : Are you Lion Group staff making fun of the intellingence of SR Units buyers. If you are human, please learn to understand all consumers have the right to complain when they are being cheated. You are right that there’s time and place for everything which apply to you not to belittle your ownselves. Please act mature and do not make fun of yourselves.One day you will realize the anger when you are being cheated outright . Then you can laugh to yourselves.
Comment by Frustrated owners — October 30, 2009 @ 3:22 pm
They are definately from Lion Group. Or worse, the estate agents. Everyday I got hounded by calls to sell my unit. They are offering as high as RM450 per square feet. So despite so many short falls of the development, the demand is very high for this project. The developer knows this. They are not afraid of negative publicity when they can turn into a fast profit making scheme.
Comment by Luke — October 30, 2009 @ 3:50 pm
Gents/Ladies, if you care to read most of the active purchasers have already migrated to another site. Eventually they’ll be no one here to read what you write. Hope we all can be more civil and tolerant.
Comment by Mark — October 30, 2009 @ 10:06 pm
I have a unit, type G with size 1360 sq.ft,9th floor Suria block willing to let go to interested buyers as I have no more use since I am now based in Singapore. Please contact me at ltlysn@singnet.com.sg for more imfo.Thank you.
Comment by David L — November 19, 2009 @ 9:55 am
What’s the situation now? Heard you can collect keys but can’t move in? Has the developers paid anyone the late delivery compensation?
Comment by Cobra — November 21, 2009 @ 4:00 pm
HI ALL,anyone interested to sell studio unit? I am thinking of buy one for own use.Please call 0123393717 to discuss further or email to ksp188@yahoo.com.Thanks.Serious buyer not agent.
Comment by ker soh peng — November 29, 2009 @ 10:57 pm
Hi there Ker, I am selling my studio unit for RM380K. If you are interested, kindly contact me at sunproperties@yahoo.com.
Thanks
Comment by Sunshine — December 1, 2009 @ 10:01 am
hi there,the price can negotiate?
which floor and which block?
Comment by ker soh peng — December 2, 2009 @ 12:43 am
Hi Soh Peng,
Sorry, I have received a much higher offer at RM400K. It seems that the LRT track will run through Empire and SR blocks and the Govt is willing to compensate the landowners. Hence most affected residents will be getting a hefty compensation from the Govt. Each and every unit is a gold mine now.
Comment by Sunshine — December 2, 2009 @ 3:32 pm