Koi Kinrara Suites, Puchong
First there was Koi Tropika. Then there was Koi Legian. Now the same people are developing another condo project in Puchong, Koi Kinrara Suites. While Koi Tropika is a Japanese garden concept, and Koi Legian offers more of a entry level affordable & furnished unit, Koi Kinrara broaches the midrange serviced apartment market (Koi Tropika is also a service apartment, but we feel they are marketing it more as a regular condo).
It is located in the Kinrara side of Bandar Puchong Jaya, just next to the Villa Mas Apartments and Sri Bayu Apartments. From Petaling Jaya, you need to turn left after the Sunway toll on the LDP, after the two turnoffs to the KESAS highway. If you’re coming from Bukit Jalil or Puchong, you need to turn left into Jalan Merbuk after the Telekom building en route to Old Klang Road.
The two things that impressed us initially about Koi Kinrara is that it is a massive development – 1000 units altogether, and that it is priced competitively. Maybe the two are correlated, it is of course something the buyers will take into account when considering this property. There are actually 4 towers in this development, they have opened only Tower B (240 units) first launch this month.
For this current launch, there are three types of units available: 908, 1,056 and 1,405sq.ft. Duplex penthouse at 3,164sq.ft is also available. It comes with a private roof garden. For the typical units, they come in about 20 floors, with 12 units per floor. All three types of layout are quite similar in concept, with a slight difference in the room locations.
The smallest unit type, Type C (908sq.ft) comes with 2 rooms and 2 baths. Kitchen and yard is very small, but it opens out to the dining. The intermediate Type B (1,056sq.ft) has 3 rooms and 2 baths, but with a longer yard (but just as small kitchen). The largest Type A (1,405sq.ft) has proportionately larger spaces, plus a powder room, which is actially a small toilet next to the yard. All units do not have balconies, but have a sort-of lanai concept, with plentiful windows affording a view of the outside. It translates into more living room space, really, and we like it that way.
Quality of finishing is just typical of price range.
As with Koi Tropika, the developer has offered a lot of facilities to make the condominium attractive to buyers and investors. Other than the usual expected fare like security, swimming pool, gym, function rooms, playground, squash courts, shops, they also have features like BBQ pit, koi pond (well, the name is after all…) laundry, sauna and business centre.
Like we said, this is a high density development, and there will be a lot of cars using the narrow roads out of this area, due to the number of condos and existing houses here (including the ones under construction).
Show room is actually at Koi Tropika, not at project site.
| Project Name | Koi Kinrara Suites |
| Location | Puchong Jaya |
| Description | 4 towers of serviced apartments with full facilities |
| Land type | Freehold |
| Price | from RM147,000 onwards |
| Unit size | 908 to 1,406sq.ft. |
| No of units | 1000 (for this launch, 240 units available) |
| Launch Date | now available |
| Expected Completion | mid 2009 |
| Developer | Lingkaran Naga Sdn. Bhd. |
| Contact | 03 – 8061 8033 |
| Website | sorry, we couldn’t find any website… |
May i know how much is the maintenance fees?
Comment by Kerry — March 15, 2006 @ 11:05 am
according to the sales people, its 15sen including sinking fund.
Comment by Administrator — March 15, 2006 @ 11:12 am
What is the difference between a service apartment and apartment?
Comment by Teh — March 23, 2006 @ 3:16 pm
depends on the context. but in general, Serviced apartments are on commercial title, and apartments are on residential. but not all developers follow this.
Comment by Administrator — March 23, 2006 @ 3:27 pm
I’ve heard something bad about the developer, namely masteron. Anyone can give some comments on it? Thanks
Comment by Xavier — March 28, 2006 @ 10:26 pm
I recently made a booking for one unit in Koi Kinrara. Masteron belongs to Federal furnitures according to the sales ppl. However, upon checking on bankrupt.com, Masteron Sdn Bhd is in a “winding up petition” anyone know what that means?
Comment by Nick — March 29, 2006 @ 12:09 pm
URL is :
http://bankrupt.com/TCRAP_Public/980911.MBX
Comment by Nick — March 29, 2006 @ 12:10 pm
hi
Comment by tiger — March 29, 2006 @ 12:39 pm
i feel this project no bad.location very nice!also is freehold.some of the room facing/view pj/klcc or sunway.there on hand project koi tropika many ppl buy and will complete soon.
can any friend 0 buyer give some comment about this koi kinrara???tq..
Nick- any new about the masteron,is any problem of this devoleper?what type of layout u buy?is facing swiming pool o pj/klcc o sunway view?
Comment by tiger — March 29, 2006 @ 12:53 pm
will there be any new roads being build to ease the congestion out of the area
Comment by ken — March 29, 2006 @ 2:09 pm
My unit is the 1060sf wan.. facing kl. There is only one junction into the area and used to be quite free.. but after completion of koi kinrara.. i am not sure =) Anyways, if anyone has info on the developer, please update
Comment by Nick — March 29, 2006 @ 5:51 pm
Nick-i also booking 1056 sf.facing klcc/pj.which floor u buy?i buy low floor because dont like too high floor.i think furture if no hav new road will hav some traffic problem because there site hav few condo(villa mas,xx bayu) using same road….but still ok i think.
ken-booking already koi kinrara?free hold lo…
can somebody tell me until today is many ppl booking??
xavier-any new about devoloper?i no heard b4 bad thing but i can sure this devoloper current project koi tropika and koi legian so many ppl booking!
Comment by tiger — March 30, 2006 @ 6:02 pm
mine ar 8th floor….. i think the roads should be fine.. but i hv not used that road during peak hours b4.. otherwise very convenient… got 3 ways to get out of that area after the T junction.. hehehhe i think should be fine. Tiger, if u say got friend who bought KOI recommend wan that friend will get RM1K u know.. then can split muahhaha.
Comment by Nick — March 31, 2006 @ 12:48 pm
Nick-u hav recommed tis koi 2u friend?ya sogood can get rm1K.if recomemed 10ppl,mean hav rm10K,haha….u already sign loan argement o waiting bank approve loan?i still waiting…
Comment by tiger — March 31, 2006 @ 7:07 pm
Nope.. tats why i say u tell them i recommend u. then we share the 1K. =) i am submitting my forms this week
Comment by Nick — April 4, 2006 @ 5:23 pm
I bought Koi Tropika and it’s without parking space!! They are asking us to purchase covered car park. I think it’s ridiculous.. How can they plan without parking space for purchasers.. Meaning we’ll have to park outside and walk in??
Comment by ycart — April 5, 2006 @ 11:49 am
ycart-this koi kinrara provide 1 cover parking area if u buy.if u wan extra parking hav to buy from the devoleper. about koi tropika car park, i no very sure.other friend o buyer can give information about this problem?
Comment by tiger — April 5, 2006 @ 12:23 pm
well.. i stil not too sure. but koi kinrara sure looks tempting with the layout and price.
i only scared if the traffic is bad.
have you gone to see the site?
wow got discout ar? when i go book i let u guys know yea
Comment by ken — April 7, 2006 @ 1:04 pm
Hi, is it save to buy koi tropika?
Comment by seline — April 13, 2006 @ 8:30 am
Im newly married and would like to buy the koi tropika, heard abt the developer, is it true and save to buy?
Comment by seline — April 13, 2006 @ 8:32 am
“safe” to buy?
. but check with some of the buyers on the features of the place, like maintenance fees, parking, etc.
Comment by Administrator — April 13, 2006 @ 10:16 am
I mean save in the sence of heard that the developer in winding up thats the reason i asked. Well i heard the maintainance fee is abt rm120.00 and parking is open not covered.Can any buyers give me some comment on this.
Comment by seline — April 13, 2006 @ 11:54 am
Just wanna know…..why discount was given for each and every buyers….just curious…..hope that everything goes fine
Comment by Venoth — April 14, 2006 @ 9:45 am
venoth,
presumably becoz its officially launched now, earlier it was only for booking.
Comment by Administrator — April 14, 2006 @ 10:55 am
i’m really impressed with packages given for each blocks….but the question running in my mind is why there is such packages given. And how about the cash given to each and every buyers
Comment by Venoth — April 14, 2006 @ 11:17 am
I am Koi Tropika block A purchaser. It comes with a covered car park for higher units. The rest will have open car park.
Comment by hahf — April 14, 2006 @ 11:38 am
Is Koi Kinrara on commercial or residential title? The salesman told me it’s residential but some how they hav the SOHO concept in Block A?
Comment by Bobby — April 16, 2006 @ 4:46 pm
the salespeople told us its commercial title.
Comment by Administrator — April 16, 2006 @ 6:55 pm
Hi can anyone of the purchaser tell me how much will be the 1.28% is for the 1st year, How much a month should we pay the bank. Any of blok A & B purchaser should know this, pls advise me.
Comment by seline — April 18, 2006 @ 7:59 am
It is coming to 3rd year I am paying the interest @ 6.85%. For 1st year it should be around RM100++. It’s all depends on the amount released to dev.
Comment by hahf — April 18, 2006 @ 9:07 am
hey hahf why 6.85%, which bank ur loan and what was the terms. As mine is 1st year 1.28% the 2nd year -1.00% and then +0.10%.Anyway which blok have u bought over and why 3rd year ur paying. When u booked the block.
Comment by seline — April 18, 2006 @ 4:53 pm
my 3rd year tier is BLR + 0.35%…..current BLR stands at 6.5%.
Comment by hahf — April 19, 2006 @ 3:57 pm
We’ve viewed a few showhouses, initially wanted to book Koi Legian, but because it’s leasehold, we thought better of it. Now we’re thinking to place a booking on Koi Kinrara. Can anyone enlighten us as to the amenities in serviced apartments - who manages them, and what are the rights of us owners/residents.
I’m concerned because my bro-in-law bought Desa Millennia and after a few months, the security guards gives access to any Tom, Dick and Harry. They initially also had to use access cards to enter the lift, but we were there last week and the access had been deactivated = no security. Worst part is yet to come - the lift was not working last weekend and they stay in the 12th floor, imagine the exercise that we went through
some of the residents who walked up the stairs with us told us that it happens quite often (the lift breakdown).
So, can anyone (or better still someone from the developer office) PLEASE give us some assurance that it will not happen in Koi Kinrara. We will not feel comfortable booking without any assurance!
Thanks lots~
Comment by Mrs Phoon — April 26, 2006 @ 4:05 pm
mrs. phoon,
you have to understand that service apartments do not have the full protection from the govt as residential apts do, so that’s why its not so popular with some people, and also why the gomen is slowly discouraging more of such projects. so buyers must read the agreement properly. and make sure you know what you’re getting into.
Comment by Administrator — April 26, 2006 @ 4:11 pm
Thank you for your reply administrator. Apologise for my ignorance, but could you guide me on what are the important things that i should look for in the agreement?
Comment by Mrs Phoon — April 27, 2006 @ 1:42 pm
Mrs. Phoon,
There so many things to look out for, it sometimes depends on what you feel is important. I suggest when you go and view the documents, bring a friend who is well versed with it, like a lawyer or someone who has bought units like these b4.
most people look for things like whether the developer mentions that the facilities like safety, gym, clubhouse will be built or not, how much is the maintenance fees, etc.
Comment by Administrator — April 29, 2006 @ 11:43 am
Thanks for the info administrator!
I’m going to make a booking maybe in June. Anyone interested in recommending me so that we could share the $1000..
Comment by Mrs Phoon — May 10, 2006 @ 11:04 am
I suggest for those who intend to buy should go up high floor of this Villamas apartment (next to Koi Kninara) to see the view 1st. You will see there are 4 or 6 sewerage treatment plan there. (spoil the view)
Comment by Len — May 15, 2006 @ 3:24 pm
Hi,i am thinking of place a booking for Koi Kinrara condo.However, there are a few things that made me skeptical about the project after looked at the comment here.
Things that i am concerning are:
Reputation of the developer
Traffic problem
Could any one clarify clearer regarding this?
Thanks a lot
Comment by Anson — May 15, 2006 @ 8:49 pm
U r right Anson. Who is the developer? People behind it as lot of nominees, if player’s characters not good then susah a bit as bear in mind this parcel of development is not regulated under HDA! I was impress with the pricing as financing can reach 100% as rebate given is 10% and 4 Units of AIR-CON for 1405 sf only & RM2,000 rebate for 908 sf( upon VP!). Pricing relatively cheap but errg..Location wise.. I’m worry maybe those stay nearby can give some comments!
Comment by Looking Around — May 17, 2006 @ 12:00 pm
I met with a sales agent from Koi Kinrara,he explained to me that MasterOn(developer of Koi Kinrara) is actually child company of TotalFurniture Bhd which is a listed company.
And a good new,according to the sales agent,govt is planning to link the current LRT route from KL to Putra Jaya,hence,Puchong will be the intermediate point!The project is expected to complete in 6 years time.If this is true…Puchong will become another PJ i think.Any who heard this maybe can share with us here..;)
Comment by Anson — May 17, 2006 @ 6:11 pm
i just booked the unit of koi tropika, when i read all the comments, it make me scared abt reputation of developer. Is Koi tropika under Masteron or Utaria?Is anyone heard anything bad abt Utaria?
Comment by arnz — May 18, 2006 @ 1:44 am
Hi Mrs Phoon,
If you are really interested ten i can get the person incharge to call you. I have also purchased there block c. Let me know if u need my help. You can mail me directly at 1seline@my.ibm.com.
Comment by seline — May 18, 2006 @ 10:51 am
Hi there,
When is the koi tropika expected to be completed?
Comment by lina — May 29, 2006 @ 8:58 am
I love the design of the condo and the location is on a higher land. However, i am quite disappointed after i went to see the development side. It is a windy location but too bad because i found it is near to “LOJI”. I checked with some people who are staying there, they said they can smelly bad odour when rains.
Comment by Jacey — June 9, 2006 @ 1:46 pm
Hi Seline,
YOu bought block C of Koi Tropika; or Koi Kinrara. As far as I know, koi kinrara only launched block A.
I want to get a buyer who bought koi kinrara to refer me so that we could share the $$ hehe
anyone interested in the partnership, email me at bernicecom@hotmail.com
Comment by Mrs Phoon — June 9, 2006 @ 10:41 pm
after i book the koi tropika i just heard tat when they built up 1 0f the block, got collapse case, izit true?
Comment by adrian — June 13, 2006 @ 2:49 pm
I have seen a lot of people asking about Koi Tropika. For those buyer of Koi Tropika, there’s an open discussion here…
http://realestate.net.my/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68
I believe you would find your answers there… good luck…
Comment by andromedia — June 14, 2006 @ 1:30 pm
Hi Admin or anybody, Can anybody tell who’s actually the boss behind this project. Are they the same developer of Koi Tropika & Koi Legion ? But name appear different & confusing to me. We have Lingkaran Naga S/B, Utararia Development s/B, Pagoda Canggih S/B, Linkaran Unik Development & Choy Fook Onn & Sons Realty??? R they nominees???
A bit confuselah!!!
Comment by Looking Around — June 19, 2006 @ 4:07 pm
yes, all 3 projects are by the same management. it is common for developers to have a different company for different projects for various reasons. If you want to know the parent company and directors, get the company number (e.g. 123456-X) go to ROC and they’ll spill everything for you.
companies like SunCity and Talam have literally dozens of subsidiaries in this manner.
Comment by Administrator — June 19, 2006 @ 5:03 pm
hi admin or anybody, last week i saw newspaper about koi kinrara promotion (discount rm5000, free 3 unit air conditioner and kitchen, i wan to ask is already booking buyer can enjoy this promotion?is buying any type size of the can enjoy the promotion? thank…
Comment by tiger — June 27, 2006 @ 1:00 pm
tiger,
i think the best people to ask is the sales people themselves. the number is given above.
Comment by Administrator — June 27, 2006 @ 1:13 pm
hi admin,about loan problem:is the only way we can apply loan from selected bank by developer, in this project 4 banks(Public bank, AM bank, Southern bank and UOB bank)? can i select other bank like maybank? is any fees or charges need to pay if i no select bank give by developer? thank you.
Comment by tiger — July 12, 2006 @ 7:46 am
you can get a loan from another bank (for most projects). but the developer would probably have arranged some special rates and packages with the financier, including waivers. but the best thing is to check with the developer.
Comment by Administrator — July 12, 2006 @ 9:23 am
hi to all friend buy koi kinrara suites, any progress at the site? can any buyer join this forum? i feel very boring no other ppl at this forum this few month!!!mayb we r the neighbour in future time!!!to who interesting also welcome join this forum.thank you come la visit this forum when free!!!ha…ha….
Comment by tiger — July 13, 2006 @ 1:01 pm
I just received a sms says that the 2nd phase of Koi Kinrara launched. Is this the one with Balcony? I am waiting since last visit to the 1st phase launch event…I can’t live without balcony ….;p
Comment by eguana — July 13, 2006 @ 3:51 pm
Hi there, i’m a sales person for Koi Tropika. If any1 want to buy or question about this project , u can contact me at my email ric3905@yahoo.com or h/p 019-3887919.
Comment by richie — July 16, 2006 @ 9:10 am
ah, finally, the koi tropika people speak…
Comment by Administrator — July 16, 2006 @ 3:38 pm
Hi….is it true that Southern Bank offer fixed BLR at 6.95% for the whole repayment period? Can those whom had taken loan from SBB place some advice?
Comment by duromine — July 18, 2006 @ 5:17 pm
hi duromine, i heard b4 from some people about SBB loan: BLR-0.80%( must buy MRTA) for loan period 30 years. THis the only package of loan i know, mayb got other packages offer by SBB. U already booking this apartment? u like the concept of this project?
Comment by tiger — July 19, 2006 @ 7:36 am
yo tiger…the concept is not bad i supposed..i pretty like it…how about you? which floor and block u bought?
Comment by duromine — July 19, 2006 @ 8:51 am
Hi admin…for the 1072 sf is is entitled for the rm2000 refund right?When can we get the refund…pls advise
Comment by duromine — July 19, 2006 @ 10:06 am
hi,duromine,i book block B floor 7,how about u?about the rebate rm2000 will directly reduce from selling price of the apartment.u friend have buy this apartment?recently u visit the koi kinrara sales place? is all the block B fully sold out? now lauch block A is also many people booking? as i know block A is a soho concept. so duromine u loan how? what bank u will chose finally? what is the package loan u chose? thank……
Comment by tiger — July 19, 2006 @ 12:46 pm
hi tiger….i booked block B 18th floor…about the loan i am not confirmed yet…which bank u choose?
Comment by duromine — July 19, 2006 @ 7:19 pm
about the bank loan, developer have submmit 3 bank for me,now still waiting banker news. from this 3 bank i will choose which is the best package offer by banks if my application approve.
Comment by tiger — July 20, 2006 @ 8:00 am
Hi!i also waiting the bank loan,but the back loan only can approve me 80% not 90%,bcos he say the developer already discount 10%,can i know who r loan 90% n approve?can i now wish bank u take?
Comment by kiwi — July 20, 2006 @ 1:31 pm
hi kiwi, i ask developer b4 they say UOB only can loan 80%, is that bank u talk above? i try PBB, SBB and Am bank now waiting they approve.about which bank can loan 90% i not very sure. othee people know? kiwi which floor u booking? thank you.
Comment by tiger — July 20, 2006 @ 3:31 pm
Hi!tiger i’m booking block B lever 6,my home loan agent say now all bank is same 80% loan only.so wich bank u prifer to take?y u did’t try for ather bank may b can get better package?did u ask your friend opinian about koi condo?
Comment by kiwi — July 20, 2006 @ 4:01 pm
yo….if i was not mistaken Southern Bank can loan up to 100%….why don’t you all check with the banker at the show unit.
Comment by duromine — July 20, 2006 @ 8:54 pm
hi everyone! im new ppl here. me n my gf also consider buy koi kinrara, but…is it stable or not? i mean the developer…can anyone tell me more background of this developer? thanx!
Comment by tsk — July 21, 2006 @ 12:38 am
hi tsk welcome to join us….this devoloper recently project is koi tropika and koi legian. if u wan know more about this devoleper also can find it from koi tropika forum.which floor u bought?u already get loan?don 4get often visit this website…thank….
hi kiwi,i prefer bank which offer me good rate and now still waiting.i no sure get loan from other bank devoleper approve or no.u individual apply loan o join with other ppl?i have ask my friends,they say this project no bad and have a good concept.
hi duromine, wa so good SBB can get 100% loan sure many buyer will choose this bank…ha…ha…u bought this apartment for invest or own resident?i own resident.
For all buyer can join us in this website, we can chance our opinion about this project….
Comment by tiger — July 21, 2006 @ 7:54 am
Hi!doromine,i’m have apply all bank,the bank r link with the developer,SBB already fit back to me,the loan only can approve 80%.
Hi!tiger,the loan i join with my bf,how your loan u personal or join?
have somebody loan r approve welcome to share with us?all of u r buying this condo to invest or resident?have somebody now this condo land how big its?have 4 block its will very croudert?
Comment by kiwi — July 21, 2006 @ 9:43 am
kiwi-i join with my gf.i use for resident.my loan from SBB approve but also 80% so i still waiting other bank.the land is 6.xx erca.ya 4 block i think will a bit croudert,if car park enough 4 block sure no problem.which floor u bought?
Comment by tiger — July 21, 2006 @ 12:57 pm
Hi everybody…I thought SBB mentioned that they will approved 90% loan? So how come mostly 80% loan?
Comment by duromine — July 22, 2006 @ 6:16 pm
thanx tiger, i hvn buy yet bcos need to seach more. b4 that, i had visit usj 1 avenue, stering@pj and heron at bukit puchong. i like usj 1 avenue but i don like that location, the stering is over my buget and the heron…mmm far abit…but all project below is leashold….koi kinrara i thinl is not bad, i also went around the construct places…is nice, but what my gf worry is too many unit, then management will lose their control…hehe, bcos this 1st time we buy house, so…mayb think too much kua…
Comment by tsk — July 23, 2006 @ 12:52 pm
hi duramine, i also don know y they appprove only 80%.the banker alway say can get 90% but finally only get 80%. very sorry typing error ‘63′ above i bought floor 6th no floor 7th.tsk- i also 1st time but property.Heron, i also went see b4 the site but the place a bit far and leasehold so i search other until now lo…i search b4 many USJ property also leasehold.wat u will chose….ha…ha…
kiwi-i bought 6th floor mean v r neighbour in future,ha..ha…
duramine, kiwi u friends or buyers who already bought KOi kinrara tell them join this website ok?thanks…
Comment by tiger — July 24, 2006 @ 7:51 am
I signed the SAP yesterday liao. Anyone signed it yet? My loan is with Public Bank. heheh dont like koi tropika.. ugly polka dots design muahaha
Comment by Nick — July 24, 2006 @ 5:29 pm
Hi all,surprise to see so many ppls join and share their experiance here,i am Koi Kinrara buyer too..i bought 9th floor with pool view.I got my loan approved about 2 months ago and my loan package is SBB bank BLR-0.70 for entire 30 years…and i think this is the most competitive package that i heard so far.Any ideas?
Comment by Anson — July 24, 2006 @ 7:31 pm
hi, Nick and Anson welcome to join us!!! nick long time no chat?Nick what public bank loan package u choose?how many year u loan?NIck and anson u all join loan or individual loan?hi kiwi and duromine,yesterday i just get my loan approve from AM Bank and 90% loan i already sign,so mayb u can try this bank.my package is BLR-0.70% for 30 years.
Koi Kinrara friend:
Floor 6-tiger, kiwi
Floor 7-duromine
Floor 8-nick
Floor 9-anson
Comment by tiger — July 25, 2006 @ 7:45 am
Hmm.. my PBB loan is BLR -0.5 first 15 years, thereafter BLR -0.7
Comment by Nick — July 25, 2006 @ 12:39 pm
PBB BLR-0.5 for first 15 years, thereafter BLR-0.7
Comment by Nick — July 25, 2006 @ 12:40 pm
hi,nick u already choose PBB bank loan?if not u can try Am bank,30 years BLR-0.7.wither have ather ppl take ather bank have better package?tiger,duromine u r chinese?tiger how big u buy the area?i’m buying the smaller wan.All of u how big area that u all buy?if the loan approve u all will chose pay intras or street pay instalment?or by paying intras also will extra pay more?
Comment by kiwi — July 25, 2006 @ 3:52 pm
kiwi-chinese.u also chinese?i buy 1056 sf.the banker say only can pay interest 1st.ya pay interest consider pay extra money.u also can pay the instalment if u feel confident about this project.how about u loan?u buy faces klcc or faces swinming pool?
Comment by tiger — July 25, 2006 @ 5:27 pm
haha…tiger…my floor is 18th la…don’t simply tembak…kena sue then u know
Comment by duromine — July 25, 2006 @ 6:09 pm
tiger…you chose the non panel bank…is the legal fees fully absorbed by the developer too?
Comment by duromine — July 25, 2006 @ 9:52 pm
hi duromine,i only tembak 1 shoot sure tak kena,simple mistake no need to sue!!!ha hah!!sorry,ha.ha.. i choose is panel bank, AM bank, so all legal fee will absorbed by the developer.i think if take non panel bank legal fee our own pay. i now waiting to sign S & P .Any news from devoloper when the project start to progress??
Comment by tiger — July 26, 2006 @ 7:40 am
Wow, launched phase 2 already?! alamak, i don’t have time to even to and have a second look, let alone booking ler…
What’s the promotion now ah?
Comment by Mrs. Phoon — July 27, 2006 @ 4:02 pm
Hi All:
For those who already signed the Sales and Purchase agreement, maybe you can share with us what things we should looking for and anything need to be taken extra careful.I am going to sign the SNP this week.Thanks a lot!
Comment by Anson — July 27, 2006 @ 6:44 pm
haha…finally i buy koi kinrara. My one is KL view but is 2nd floor. i think can c the KL view gua…bcos there is highland.haiii…hope everything is ok la…
Comment by tsk — July 30, 2006 @ 1:05 am
Hi Guys,
I have purchase Koi Kinrara - Block B - 18th Floor, Pool View.
Loan with SBB - 90% + MRTA. Interest BLR - 0.8% = 5.95% and it’s fixed rate.
Don’t worry about the traffic, I’m staying near by. My friends is staying at Sri Bayu, He never complaint about the traffic there.
Comment by Jackie — August 1, 2006 @ 12:51 am
hi tsk happy c u make a decision!now waiting for house loan?how big the size u buy?
hi jackie welcome.where r u stay now?u buy this for own resident or invest?
Comment by tiger — August 1, 2006 @ 7:35 am
Hi,i’m appove the loan,i’m thinking Am bank loan,now waiting sign SnP,SBB is BLR-0.8 but i think not fixed rate,also going by the market BRL,if the BLR up to 7 than your rate will be BLR-6.2,better check properly wither is fixted rate.tiger u r the 2nd admin at here haha…answer all the quition…
Comment by kiwi — August 2, 2006 @ 5:42 pm
hi kiwi,good to know u get the loan approve.i also waiting sign s&p.ha ha…i just share with u all what i know…where r u stay now? i stay at kl….
Comment by tiger — August 3, 2006 @ 7:41 am
hi!tiger i stay at pj…good la 3 year later v r neaber…haha…
Comment by kiwi — August 3, 2006 @ 9:43 am
Jackie,are you sure SBB giving at fixed 5.95% throughout the loan period? I bought 18 floors too..facing pool.
Comment by duromine — August 4, 2006 @ 2:16 pm
I’m currently staying at puchong jaya.
In the offer letter from SBB, it indicated BLR-0.8% with current BLR 6.75%. “Long Term interest rate”.
I have check with the SBB. This mean it fix at 5.95% and it won’t affect by BLR anymore.
Unless SBB lies to me about that…if not it should be true.
Comment by Jackie — August 5, 2006 @ 1:58 am
Jackie..thanks for the info man. In fact SBB and UOB offered me the loan…thinking which 1 to take. Thanks man.You bought 18 floors too?
Comment by duromine — August 5, 2006 @ 3:43 pm
duromine….I’m bought Block B 18th floor, pool view.
Comment by Jackie — August 5, 2006 @ 10:40 pm
my type is 1072sf, 2nd floor face kl, im now need to meet up all then banker to compare the pakage they have, then just make the decision which bank i will appy. which bank home loan pakage is better ah?
Comment by tsk — August 6, 2006 @ 11:06 am
SBB offered me BLR-0.70 (cos i applied earlier)..yes..according to the agent this is a fix rate but with term and condition apply.You cannot delay or refuse to pay the installment for 3 months continously,else SBB will modify the interest rate to BLR+2.5%charge.But i think it is fair for us also.That is 1 of the reason why i chose SBB instead of Ambank and UOB.
Comment by Anson — August 6, 2006 @ 8:06 pm
wah..then I think I’ll choose SBB instead of other banks. Thanks for the info, Anson. Yo Jackie..we will be neighbours..hahaha
Comment by duromine — August 6, 2006 @ 10:39 pm
hi duromine and anybody buyer,few day ago i asking developer about the rm 2000 refund money,they say only will return back when this project complete build or when we get the house key .This mean refund money only return after 3 year so long have to wait.Last time developer say this rm2000 direct reduce from our house selling price.U have any news about this problem??
Comment by tiger — August 8, 2006 @ 12:34 pm
Hey guys! Bought the poolview too. First post here. Can somebody tell me if the S&P is already stamped?
Comment by causewayview — August 13, 2006 @ 12:51 am
Hi Guys…becareful the offer from Southern Bank…it’s not fixed BLR..I’ve check with the lawyer and other bankers..Pls becareful
Comment by garfield & odie — August 16, 2006 @ 4:39 pm
which bank is better? UOB-1-5ys: BLR -1.00%,Thereafter: BLR -1.15%…mm is not bad la…but how come their interest so low?? other bank is -0.7 or -0.8……
Comment by teesk — August 17, 2006 @ 1:06 am
BLR not fixed?
Comment by causewayview — August 17, 2006 @ 2:04 pm
huh?the BLR is not fixed?I already signed the letter offer..but the banker told me it’s fixed..the letter offer it’s not stated fixed
Comment by duromine — August 17, 2006 @ 2:39 pm
They didnt fixed the BLR but they fixed the -0.8%.Please check carefully before signing the agreement.Don’t get cheated by the irresponsible banker
Comment by garfield & odie — August 18, 2006 @ 4:49 pm
oh ok. i went to koi today. checked with the banker (i signed the sbb loan too). Hey garfield, the banker explained to me that the repayment is the same regardless the blr, for the whole tenure. Told him what’s happening here. So i asked him to calculate if the blr drops and blr increased. It’s actually more or less a different of RM3. And i got a 90% full loan. Nothing wrong with the banker. I should stick with him.
Comment by causewayview — August 20, 2006 @ 6:01 pm
Hi causewayview,lets say the BLR increased to 8%,will the repayment amount is difference by RM 3?The amount may be vary by RM 3 but the bank has the rights to vary the number of installments/the amount.Please refer to your letter offer.I need to make myself clear,I am not against SBB but please check the terms carefully.Thank you.
Comment by garfield & odie — August 20, 2006 @ 9:03 pm
Hi,garfield & odie, im tsk here. nice to meet u. Just wanna ask u UOB-1-5ys: BLR -1.00%,Thereafter: BLR -1.15%…mm is not bad…but y not really many people apply UOB? most people here appy SBB…??
Comment by tsk — August 28, 2006 @ 9:50 am
hi tsk, bcos most of buyer want loan 90% from banker but UOB early already say only can loan 80% (have to take out 10% money) so apply other bank which give 90% loan lo….if i have money sure will chose UOB,ha…ha…
Comment by tiger — August 29, 2006 @ 7:33 am
Hi All:
Goof news!!Goverment has decided to expand the current LRT link to Puchong from Sri Petaling and expected to be completed by 2010.Its 1 year after expected completion date of Koi Kinrara Condos..I think it will definitely benefit us although i am not sure when is the exact location of the LRT station..but i believe it should located somewhere around IOI mall..
Comment by Anson — August 30, 2006 @ 1:35 pm
Hi All,
I would like to buy the apartment in koi kinrara, but for the type B sytle have all sold out, so i waiting for the other block to be launch(Sunway view), any one know when it will be launch?
Comment by ncy — September 1, 2006 @ 8:52 am
Hi tsk..sorry for the late reply..just got my connection fixed..let us put it this way;most of the people choose SBB is because they do not wish to pay the additional 10% due to some reasons and might be being confused by the SBB banker on the fixed BLR..heard that SBB had changed the new banker for this project.What happened to the previous banker then?Heard he is under investigation by the bank for confusing customers.
Comment by garfield & odie — September 7, 2006 @ 11:03 pm
thanx garfield & odie & tiger. Im now have to apply hong leong bank. the pakage is same as UOB, free legal fee. The HL banker told me that he read my document, sure can loan 90%…is it got any problem if the bank is not under KOI KINRARA? bcos HL bank is not under koi…
Comment by tsk — September 8, 2006 @ 11:31 pm
Hi everyone, I booked a unit at Koi Kinrara some time ago and due to sudden job transfer I have been thinking much about it and now decide to give up my unit. Below are the details of my unit:
Type A, 1405sqft, Unit No. B-08-12 (Block B, 8th Floor, No.12), Pool View.
Anyone who is interested in this unit, please kindly email me at dliw_yug@hotmail.com so I can contact you.
Thanks.
Comment by TKJ — September 10, 2006 @ 7:24 pm
Hi All, I’m new here!! Last Sat I went to Koi’s sales office with my gf, we like a lot of the Block A unit, but anyway, may I know is the developer safe? Any project that done already?
Comment by Yeoh — September 11, 2006 @ 7:09 pm
hi yeoh, want to know more developer view this:
http://vineeth-nair.tripod.com/index.html
Comment by tiger — September 12, 2006 @ 7:28 am
Hi Tiger, thanks for you help!
Comment by Yeoh — September 12, 2006 @ 8:10 am
Hi All, I just check out with my account person, the main developer of KOI is Masteron, and they have been petition for “Winding-Up” by “ATMD CONSULTANTS (YANGON) LTD-MYAMMAR”, means the ATMD sue Masteron to sell all Masteron properties & esset to paid ATMD RM4.5mil, I have the “CTOS SUMMARY REPORT DATED 12-Sep-2006″, if any body want it, please leave your e-mail at this website, I’ll e-mail to you.
Actually I like a lot of Koi Kinrara Apartment, in this kind of issue, somebody please tell me whether I should purchase this Apartment or not…
Comment by Yeoh — September 12, 2006 @ 2:36 pm
Hi All, sorry for givin the incomplete news about Winding-Up Issue to Masteron, and here to apologize to Masteron! I found out that the Winding-Up action are WHOLLY DISCONTINUED ON 29-09-98, so there’s no more Winding-UP to Masteron, and their payment to bank are very good!!
Hehe, this company is clean!! So I’ve make the decision with my gf to bought KOI Kinrara!!!
Comment by Yeoh — September 12, 2006 @ 10:22 pm
Hi Yeoh, just would like to ask you the Block A is it Sunway view? is yes, is this block have been launch?
Comment by ncy — September 13, 2006 @ 8:44 am
Dear ncy, block A got 2 view, 1 is pool, another 1 is Sunway. You should go to the site to see, the Sunway view is very very beautiful!!
Comment by Yeoh — September 13, 2006 @ 6:16 pm
Hi ncy, 1 more, they haven launch yet, anyway, u til can do booking at Koi sales office.
Comment by Yeoh — September 13, 2006 @ 6:18 pm
Yeoh, thanks for ur infor….I do go to site, there really a good view, but the contruction haven’t start yet. Did you do booking? what is ur comment on the property?
Comment by ncy — September 14, 2006 @ 8:46 am
Hi ncy,sorry for late reply. I’ll do booking at this Sun (19/9).
In my opinion, i think this property quite good, for me, Safety & Location is important. Sure, it got security service, some more the view & the location quite nice, that’s why I like it a lot.
By the way, there’s few factory quite near to Koi Kinrara, but they are down the hill, if u did went to the site, u might notice of it. This is one thing that bordering me, coz that’s some smoke come out from that factory.
Those factory are furniture, plastic, recycled iron, and etc. if u dont mind that’s ok, u also can choose the highest floor.
Comment by Yeoh — September 19, 2006 @ 11:44 pm
i see…thanks for ur infor yeoh! you do booking? is mean just paid RM2000 for booking fees? if yes, can lasting for how long? sorry, coz i’m not so familiar with this..
Comment by ncy — September 25, 2006 @ 8:39 am
Dear ncy, I already do the booking.
Just pay RM500 for booking, then waiting for your loan to approve.
Their package is including all the fees, like legal fee, stamp duty… etc.
Comment by Yeoh — September 26, 2006 @ 4:58 pm
Just call up SBB this afternoon.
Their loan is BLR-0.8%. (Not Fix at 5.95%)
What they mean fix is the ‘monthly installment’. If the BLR go up, they won’t raise your monthly installment but extend your loan period.
(That mean fix 5.95% during your loan for 30years. The balance due to BLR changes will be paid after 30years.)
Comment by Jackie — September 29, 2006 @ 12:35 am
Hey guys! Bought a block A unit. I took up the loan from SBB, and the banker is quite good. Name is Danish. Got my loan approved for 90% in 5 days! Whoa! But Public Bank still processing my loan… Hmmm….
Comment by jamie — September 29, 2006 @ 2:21 am
Dear all, can anyone tell me why the contruction haven’t start yet? last time the developer say will start on September….why???
Comment by tiger — September 29, 2006 @ 3:25 pm
Dear Administrator: I am a foreigner working in KL, thinking to buy an a good quality and low density condo for my family stay for 2-3 years and later could be rented (a kind of investment). My office is located in Damansara Highit, ideally the distance from the office to the condo to buy would be within 30-40 minutes by car. Price range 500k-700k.
But I do not want to wait too long. Will this kind of th e condo be available fron now to June/July 2007? Could you give some advice? Tks
Comment by TR — October 1, 2006 @ 11:22 am
Hey TR,
I am a singaporean but working in malaysia. I think you should speak to the banker I am dealing with. He is very knowledgable in dealing with foreigners loan and what kind of property suits for investment. Call him at 016 - 6642661 Danish is his name. Just say that I recommend you to him. Good night TR.
Comment by jamie — October 1, 2006 @ 10:35 pm
TR,
are you looking for a new place or a second hand place?
Comment by Administrator — October 3, 2006 @ 3:46 pm
I stay in puchong for more than 4 years. last time i m working near to the Koi Tropika. I m afraid the construction is not stable due to the last time the site is a drain “longkang”. then everytime during raining season, the project is still on-going and the situation is worst for that area - flooded. U can clarify with the residents or employees around DHL, Steelcase (last time is artwright), DK Leather, Konsortium. I m not kidding just share what i have seen with you all. really the design is very attractive, i go for the show house also.
Comment by Puchong guy — October 5, 2006 @ 6:00 pm
The Showroom is located at KOI Tropika. But the actual construction area for KOI Kinrara is at Puchong Jaya.
Don’t worry, that place is hard to get flood. if really flood, KL is half gone.
Comment by Jackie — October 5, 2006 @ 11:01 pm
Hi Jackie, I think the “Puchong Guy” is talking about Koi Tropika, not Koi Kinrara…
Anyway, I purchase Koi Kinrara also.
Comment by Yeoh — October 6, 2006 @ 5:07 pm
hi…i’m new here .. i just went to see the showhouse…and the site also . still under consideration. need help from you all .hehe. wan book or not ?
Comment by danny — October 15, 2006 @ 8:23 pm
Hi all, i so suprise got a forum about koi kinrara n koi tropika.I’m the buyer of Koi Kinrara Block B, Level 08-08.(pool View).I view that showroom few times and discuss it with the agent. The price is reasonable for me and it quite near my work place(kelana jaya).My Ex-colleague was bought Level 5 face KLCC.both of us is shared buyer to buyer pocket money. At the first, i’m thinking to buy Koi Tropika but it quite far inside from the Giant.Their discount really acttractive and free kitchen cabinet and air cond.but it was leasehold.Block A was launches few months ago so please dont wait.
Looking forwards all of you to become my neighbour. I’m the 1st time to get my own property.Bank loan from SBB.approved in 5days after i submit all documents.
Comment by Alfred — October 17, 2006 @ 5:50 pm
to those who wish to purchase 2nd car park in koi kinrara/tropika, please make sure u get it written in black&white, do not trust sales person verbal promise. many ppl face this issue in koi tropika. beware!
http://koitropika.16.forumer.com
Comment by hahf — October 19, 2006 @ 5:23 pm
Good advice.
Comment by Administrator — October 19, 2006 @ 5:32 pm
Just to share some information with you all.
This what I been told:
Currently it is commercial title, but they are going to convert it to full residential.(mean the utilities at normal rate)
Comment by Jin — October 20, 2006 @ 4:23 pm
i am koi tropika resident, and i have not heard of this before. beware of sales ppl trick. by the time the unit completed, they already resign.
Comment by hahf — October 20, 2006 @ 4:56 pm
To hahf,
Hi, to clarify, I am talking about Koi Kinrara.
by the way, what do you mean by resign?
To all,
Any one heard about the reputation for Am bank or SBB bank either from friend or relative? Is there any incident that the bank delay in releasing the payment to the developer and end up the loan taker have to bear the late payment interest?
Comment by Jin — October 20, 2006 @ 6:22 pm
Hi All,
I booked koi kinrara block B last week, but today when I go to the site the smoke comes out from the factories down hill is really makes me wondering.
But I like the concept of it really, just wanna ask u guys opinions whether will there be any solutions for this issue since its related to the health of lots of units residential condos there..
Comment by K' — October 23, 2006 @ 10:56 pm
koi tropika also on commercial land. sales ppl promised alot of things to us as well. and it doesn’t materialise when it is completed. by the time u want to look for them, they no longer work in that sales office anymore. got it jin?
the rate for water in koi tropika is Rm1.50 per cubic meter. Normal highrise residential is Rm1.20. u can figure yourself.
just to let u know, i wont buy another property from this developer anymore (if i ever got chance to get another one).
Comment by hahf — October 26, 2006 @ 1:34 pm
The bankers are leaving the property. It smells a bit fishy in here. Beware. It is a sign that the developer is not doing well.
Comment by jackyteoh — October 27, 2006 @ 12:50 am
Hey all! I had considered about Koi suites in Puchong Jaya with other similar properties. But then, I chosen else where which i believe more worth while in long term investment even for living. About loan appplications & stuff, i did some researchs about it & i might able to help up if someone needs such info. Cheers!
Comment by Scott — October 27, 2006 @ 10:42 pm
hi all! may i know that anyone oledi sign the snp & all contract? abt the rebate RM2k, is it when sign the all contract then they will rebate to u? and y block A hvn launching? is it block B sales not good? is the site there start work?
Comment by teesk — October 29, 2006 @ 10:43 pm
i feel it is not the bankers fault to leave the property. somehow the sales staff in the koi office are very stuckup. they wouldn’t approach you unless you open up your mouth to speak. very poor quality of service. don’t you think so?
Comment by kingsleyteh — October 30, 2006 @ 5:13 pm
yes, i had been there 2 months ago during their lunching at the show house. sales ppl did not approach me even though i was there for 2 hours walking and loofing around the show unit. maybe i look too young, and they assume me to just viewing the unit but not to purchase it. so after 2 hours i left with nothing information in my head (BTW, i was doing research on new launching coz i intended to buy). after 2 weeks i read from this forum regarding the launching of sierra residency at bandar kinrara. i quickly put down my booking fees to purchase it considering good location and cheaper price. the malay sales person serve me really well and willing to wait for me to shop around with all the housing loans package. after negotiation, i finally paid rm2k as downpayment and chosed alliance finance as mortgager.
Comment by TEC — October 31, 2006 @ 11:10 am
agreed. i went there with my dad, perhaps we didn’t dressed up too rich, that’s why they didn’t entertain us. but the banker from SBB was kind enough to explain to me regarding the loan. at least i know a wee bit about it. iw ent to bandar puteri and looked around. might consider to buy there instead of koi. too stuck up for me to handle.
Comment by kingsleyteh — October 31, 2006 @ 8:23 pm
mm…i think depend with the sales ppl la, bcos i went there last time, the sales ppl serve me well…i also wear casual..haha. sales ppl very important, some is like look down us, some is ok…so…just see our luck lo…
Comment by teesk — October 31, 2006 @ 11:15 pm
sometimes i prefer not to have sales person following me. i will ask if i need help.
Comment by hahf — November 2, 2006 @ 10:27 am
hi teesk last week i visit the site. they still cleaning the land, contruction work no yet start.
Comment by tiger — November 2, 2006 @ 5:52 pm
hi tiger, so how abt the rebate RM2k? u get oledi?
Comment by teesk — November 3, 2006 @ 12:07 am
hi teesk,rebate rm2k so far i dont know.
Comment by tiger — November 3, 2006 @ 7:39 am
Hi ppl, i am seriously thinking of getting one Type B, which left only bout 3 units….anyone wana share the incentive? only 1k rite? but really scare since this is my first time buying property….cheers mate…email me keanuleaf@hotmail.com
Comment by yeong — November 5, 2006 @ 7:56 pm
For those interested to see some recent site progress photos of KOI TROPIKA, you can view them here.
Comment by Administrator — November 9, 2006 @ 3:33 pm
Hi Everyone:
I am still waiting for the developer to ask me to pay for the diffence sum cos i am applying for 80% loan and its already 5 months after i signed for the loan agreement and SNP but i’m yet to receive any news from the developer. Anyone can give me an advice?
Comment by Anson — November 20, 2006 @ 12:35 pm
Hi all buyer,
i just booked a unit of koi kinrara yesterday…
yeong , u mentioned that u want to find a person that want to share the insentive? i have interest on this friend…my email address jessvick81@yahoo.co.jp
Comment by jess — November 20, 2006 @ 2:08 pm
hey Anson…the developer yet to charge you due to the work below not even started. However, they only bill you when the work has been completed & being certified by Architect.
Comment by Scott — November 20, 2006 @ 10:39 pm
hi, Anson and Scott,about the S & P argeement i already signed about 3 month ago,can i know u all receive the S & P argeement? i havent receive.last time developer say need to take for stamping the S & P…
Anson and Scott,anyone of u know why the site contrustion havent start yet?did u ask the developer when they will start?
Comment by tiger — November 21, 2006 @ 7:30 am
hi all! this is my first post here. my future hubby and I have bought the mid-sized unit on the 19th floor. i did some research myself. sinking fund is 15 se per sq ft. but it’s only for the first 2 years. traffic will be a little bit congested upon completion, but then again, look at pantai hill park. so I’ve got not much to complain about that. unit itself, i’m satisfied because of the large space. other than the fact that i’ll be getting the keys late, i think it’s a pretty good deal.location wise, pretty isolated (which is darn good!), top of hill location and hopefully good fcilities, as promised. didn’t notice any catch behind the whole package. my only question is “when do they start construction?”
*eagerly anticipating*
Comment by pLushed — November 22, 2006 @ 3:00 pm
Hi Tiger:
I haven’t receive the documents and i have no idea whether my documents have been sent for stamping. I have called them several times, they claimed that they are currently busy with the documentation job and the site is still doing the side cleaning(Take so long to clean?).
What i hope is the agent will keep me updated all the time..
Comment by Anson — November 22, 2006 @ 5:59 pm
hey Tiger, first of all, 4 blocks of about 1,008 units in a 7 acres land is abit congested. If you ever visited the site, the main road on top level is much more higher than ground floor of the condo, probably equivalent about 5-storey height. Im not sure but it seems the way from top. Above the SPA, try to look for the solicitor (dont care if they are panel from developer) & ask them whats wrong with it. In normal case, 2-3 weeks will be sufficient but for loan agreement, it will take abit longer as banker needs to send to their HQ for siganture & stuff.
Comment by Scott — November 23, 2006 @ 11:22 pm
i also juz bought 1 unit at block B,
quite horrible after reading you guys’ mail…..
Comment by Picasso — November 24, 2006 @ 5:38 pm
I went to the site this morning.
They have finish the cleaning and start the construction work.
Comment by Jackie — November 25, 2006 @ 5:05 pm
hi everybody,
i’m also a new buyer for koi kinrara, i jz booked a unit at block B
after read thru all comments, quite scared…
i hope i make a right choice bcoz, bcoz this is my 1st property….
hope u all can give me a more details opinion or things to be consider during those bank loan…
thanks!
Comment by alex — November 27, 2006 @ 12:50 am
hi Anson,this mean the developer still busy with the S &P document and no yet stamping.If have any news about S & P share with us ok. thank…
hi Scott,u think the car park level will same level of the main road?last time the developer say the car park have 4 level equivalent with the main road level.
Comment by tiger — November 27, 2006 @ 7:56 am
Hi all, i went to site on sunday morning, also noticed that the construction works have been started.
Comment by Anson — November 27, 2006 @ 1:01 pm
Hey tiger, there is no way of the carpark level be the same as main road on top. Pls visit the site & you will notice what im talking about.
Comment by Scott — November 27, 2006 @ 10:38 pm
Hi Scott, did you really know how high will they build for 1 level of car park? We all dodn’t have the architect drawing. So just wait till they construct the car park.
If you have the actual prove, just show it to us. Don’t spread the rumours and scare people aways.
Comment by Jackie — November 28, 2006 @ 12:07 am
hi Anson, Scott and Jackie, u all notice 1 big hill (rock)near the site,now problem is that hill will effect the KL view of the lower level condo buyer?Developer will clear the hill until smooth area?
Comment by tiger — November 28, 2006 @ 7:52 am
Hi All, long time dint post here, I just sign the Letter Of Offer, now just waiting to sign the S&P, I bought A-20-08, Sunway view, coz previously when I wan to do the booking, I went to side to see the day view and nite view, I like the nite view of Sunway, it’s so beautiful, so i purchase the sunway view.
But just 1 thing that wondering me… that’s those factory there… some more got smoke coming out, and 1 besi buruk factory that are so noisy when they working…, for those who will purchase the block D and near the besi busuk factory will be suffer…
Comment by Yeoh — November 30, 2006 @ 11:02 am
I just receive some kind of agreement to sign, after I read through, I’m so surprice that the developer not just only free for One 1.5 hp aircond, they also free foot massage machine, security alarm, washing machine with dryer (this is I wan most and it’s worth RM4300), holiday package (RM2,000).
Comment by Yeoh — November 30, 2006 @ 4:43 pm
hey Jackie….Im not trying to scare you off…the most valuable prove is that just go & visit the actual site! Look by yr ownself! Im just trying to share out what im seeing now who needed it. Time will proves my words!
Comment by Scott — November 30, 2006 @ 11:49 pm
Dear Scott & Jackie,
For this car park case, previously I heard from the developer, actually the 3rd floor that only same level with the main road, means that, the 3rd floow of Koi KInrara is same level with the Ground Floor of Villamas Apartment and Sri Bayu Apartment.
Comment by Yeoh — December 1, 2006 @ 9:45 am
I AM MR.ROBERT, CERTIFIED APPROVED LENDER WHO IS READY TO LOAN OUT TO PEOPLE THIS SEASON WITH LOW INTEREST RATE AND AS SWIFT AS POSSIBLE.YOU WILL BE QUALIFIED FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY IF ONLY YOU ARE ABOVE THE AGE OF 16 .I LEND OUT LOANS TO COMPANISE AND PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS.SO IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE ,YOU CAN CONTACT ME VIA robert_lenders01@yahoo.com FOR MORE INFO
Comment by Mr Robert — December 1, 2006 @ 10:50 am
Thanks Yeoh, at least someone knows what im trying to tell here. The fact is car park level on ground will definitely not the same as the ground on ‘main road’coz of sloping down earth level.
Comment by Scott — December 1, 2006 @ 7:34 pm
Dear Scott & All,
Actually if you all take a couple of time and go to the site to survey yourself, you’ll know exactly.
Actually I like living up on the hill, but because of this factory, I choose 20th floor.
Comment by Yeoh — December 1, 2006 @ 8:36 pm
hey there.Just booked a unit of koi kinrara, blk B.heard anything about the developer? when will they finish…they said 2008, is it true?
Comment by rr — December 5, 2006 @ 2:17 pm
they offer a good package for koi kinrara, washing machine,air con n stuff…freehold property , what’s the catch, i wonder?
Comment by rr — December 5, 2006 @ 2:19 pm
Dear Esteemed Buyers,
I believe all of us facing the problem on getting bck the duly signed and stamped legal docs (i.e S&P agreement)till date.
Probably we should write in an official letter to the developer on the delay of the legal docs?I’ve been waiting the docs for more than 3 mths.. We shouldnt sit bck and ignore the delay…Seriously, the waiting period is abnormal. Anyone feel we (the buyers) should write in to voice out our concern thru official channel, say being attention to the Developer???
Comment by concernBuyer — December 5, 2006 @ 3:42 pm
If all buyer have not signed on the S&P agreement, will it affect the home loan?
Comment by ray — December 5, 2006 @ 5:54 pm
I have call up the developer, found out that they plan to stamp the document on January 2007 because of the new budget from goverment, which will benefit the developer (tax and etc).
According to them, they have start the construction and only ask the bank to release the money after stamping document.
Comment by Jackie — December 6, 2006 @ 12:09 am
Hi All, I juz brought 1 unit at Block A facing sunway last month and I was told by the agent that the main entrance will move to centre of the building (in front of the gym room). And as i heard from the agent the maintenance fee is not include sinking fund, the sinking fund only pay 10% once a year from the monthly maintenance fee.
I still waiting for loan from SBB. I think I want to change to Allianz Bank because the rate is lower than other bank somemore Legal fees are free.
Comment by John — December 6, 2006 @ 1:16 pm
Dear all,
I already confirm from the admin of developer, they’re going to stamp the S&P on Jan 2007, means that, the confirmed date of complete will be Jan 2010 (because it is 3 years for apartment/condo).
For the sinking fund, I heard from the admin person, it’s include in our monthly maintainance fees.
Comment by Yeoh — December 6, 2006 @ 4:35 pm
Dear rr,
Happy to heard that you purchase this condo also.
Dont worry about this developer, I had ask my account person check the financial status of this developer previously, they’ve a lot of cash flow, please refer to No. 121 & 122.
Comment by Yeoh — December 6, 2006 @ 4:45 pm
Hi Yeoh, you better conform with the admin developer because my agent say the sinking fund is not include in the maintenance fee. Somemore are this developer safe.
Comment by John — December 7, 2006 @ 11:06 am
Hi John, for this sinking fund purpose, I think we should refer to the S&P agreement.
Comment by Yeoh — December 7, 2006 @ 9:04 pm
hi every1, im from developer sales department.yes the spa will b stamp on jan 07. i have been this company for 2 year and its has a good financial status so no worry.(if not i have change job).
dear John - maintaince fee is rm0.15 psf not included sinking fund
i would like to help if got more question and
for booking or buying please call me at 012-270 8020
so we call meet personally
Comment by SK.Wan — December 15, 2006 @ 12:25 pm
Hi All:
Ah wan is a good sales guy, he helped me a lot too..u all can refer to him if got any question. Good luck!
Comment by Anson — December 15, 2006 @ 1:43 pm
thanks yeoh for the info..anyway, which bank loan did u apply for..? im taking the uob’s offer. sounds attractive.
rr aka shajes
Comment by rr — December 17, 2006 @ 5:04 pm
Hi SK.Wan,
Since the maintenance fees not included the sinking fund. How much the developer charge for the sinking fund?
Comment by John — December 18, 2006 @ 11:00 am
hi John,
sinking fund will be charge rm0.05 psf
Comment by SK.Wan — December 18, 2006 @ 10:53 pm
hi rr,
loan from uob will only can get 80%, if u willing to pay the 10% differential sum on your own. make sure u check the loan amount for housing loan exluding mrta.
Comment by SK.Wan — December 18, 2006 @ 10:57 pm
Hi SK.wan,
For the sinking fund charge RM0.05psf,is every month pay or yearly pay??
u all notice 1 big hill (rock)near the site,now problem is that hill will effect the KL view of the lower level condo buyer?Developer will clear the hill until smooth area?
Comment by kiwi — December 19, 2006 @ 9:36 am
HI SK WAN, since u company only wait JAN 07 stamping S & P,is the project will still follow schedule complete at mid 2009? i scare now JAN 07 stamping have to wait 3 1/2 year mean mid 2010 complete.
How the site progress??
Comment by tiger — December 20, 2006 @ 7:41 am
Hi SK.Wan,
The sinking fund RM0.05psf that include in the maintenance fees is pay monthly or yearly? Is the stamping S & P will schedule to JAN 07?
Comment by John — December 20, 2006 @ 1:28 pm
hi kiwi,
its can b collect monthly or yearly depend on management,mostly its will b collect by monthly to gather with maintaince fee.
the rock is not belong to developer,so demolishment is not sure but i will ask my project ppl.i suggest choose a higher lvl unit for better view.
tiger dont worry pilling has started,if u go to the site u can c all the machine and its will be complete at mid 2009 and 3 1/2 year is way 2 long…cant b that long…so no wry b happy
yes John spa will be stamp on jan 07 as the management told me.
Comment by SK.Wan — December 20, 2006 @ 9:18 pm
hi,SK WAN if the rock no clear no fair for the lower level buyer!!!Please check for developer if the rock no clear will effect which floor to which floor?all lower buyer already book n sign loan, S N P how can they choose higher level for better view.
Comment by tiger — December 21, 2006 @ 7:38 am
Hi Wan:
The loan agreement will be stamped together with the sales and purchase agreement?Is that mean that i have to pay for the difference sum once the agreement is stamped?
Comment by Anson — December 21, 2006 @ 4:27 pm
dear Anson,
u have to payup the differential sum once its stamp.
sry Tiger,
u must understand there, if the land does not belong to developer,its has no right to remove it and its againts the law to demolish other ppl land.
Comment by SK.Wan — December 22, 2006 @ 8:50 pm
Hi All, thinking of getting myself a unit there. Abit confuse & worried after so many comments(bad & good). To make myself feel more safer, i’ll attend the coming ceremony on 7th jan 07 and to meet the buyers for some advise. So u all coming? Planning to get myself 1072 sqf facing sunway view. I went to the show room and current around 45% sold out (dunno true or not based on the sticker). 1 thing is sales person there is too friendly..but without good information from them! They’re not very clear with this project..keep on promote free gift la, but when i asked whether yard come with tiles or not..they said YES but actual is not!That y make me think n think before placing the order. It seem the offer is different now, current finacial 100% loan (from the 10% rebate), free foot massage, 1 air con, free loan agreement fee, waterfilter, washing machine & dryer, holiday package 1000+ allowance 1000…and 1 more thing dun get cheated by the show room. It’s totally different with actual they gonna build..SO..please keep give comments. I wish to become ur guys neigbour. Ah wan..will need ur help soon. So you still work there?
Comment by CK — January 3, 2007 @ 1:17 am
wah..mantainee fee 0.15/sqf +0.05/sqf = rm 0.20…abit too expensive?
Comment by CK — January 3, 2007 @ 1:46 am
i am not koi kinrara buyer, but i am buyer of their another property, koi tropika.
my advise would be: do not buy any property from Masteron, they are nonsense in planning. i have it enough from the developer!
sorry if i offended you, SK Wan.
Comment by hahf — January 3, 2007 @ 9:03 am
Hi Wan,
This is Booi who bought B-08-05 from you. Would like to know when will our stamped S&P be returned to us. Dont think i have a stamped copy yet. Are the early birds entitled to all the free gifts you guys are giving out?
Comment by nbooi — January 3, 2007 @ 10:38 am
Hi!I’m new here. I just brought A-15-11 Sunway View. But y u all mention just now have RM2000 to rebate?
Hehe!!! I very like this condo facilities.
Anyone here who interest to share rocommanded fee with me..
My e-mail:meowmeow2302@yahoo.com
This jan 07 we meet at Kinrara site lah…
Comment by Meow — January 3, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
Meow..u bought the unit i want! issit 1072 sqf? omg…
Comment by CK — January 3, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
07 Jan 07 what time the ceremony?
Comment by CK — January 3, 2007 @ 11:11 pm
Dear all,
I just called the marketing people of Koi Kinrara, they said this Sun (07.01.07) got a function for the purchase, from 10am to 5pm, I’ll go there, so hope to meet you all!!
Comment by Yeoh — January 4, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
I am also interested in investing in that property. Looking forward towards the function.
Jagra
Comment by Jagra — January 4, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
Dear All again,
I just heard from a former sales person in Koi Kinrara, he claim that now all the sales job of Koi Kinrara had pass to an agent company, so the salesman we met now in the shopping centre are agent.
Previously I went to Giant Puchong, I act as new customer and ask a few question to the sales agent, he’s not professional/responsible at all, just keep on saying that Koi Kinrara free this free that and dont event asnwer my question, this is not fare to new purchaser!!! (Luckily I bought already before).
And as I know, there’s only SK WAN still left in Koi Kinrara as sales, if you would like to know more about Koi Kinrara, you could contact him, I’m not promoting him or what, further more he’s not handling my order also, at least he cant cheat you coz he took the salary from Koi Kinrara.
Comment by Yeoh — January 4, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
Hi all,
I’m interested in this koi kinrara. Anyone know is this koi kinrara nearby any lrt station (sri petaling or bukit jalil)? If is nearby, how long would need to take to reach the lrt station? I’m planning to buy it if is nearby.
Comment by Sio — January 4, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
but there alot of negative news about this developer…u all never go deeper to get more information?
Comment by yy — January 4, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
For you all information again,
This coming Sunday (07.01.07), Lingkaran Naga they’ll gonna have a function at Koi Kinrara site, for those who bought the unit of interested, please feel free to visit there.
I bought A-20-08, Sunway View, hope to meet all my future neighbourhood.
See you there!
Comment by Yeoh — January 5, 2007 @ 8:43 am
can some one update me, sunway view still avaible at which floor? 1072sqf
Comment by CK — January 5, 2007 @ 9:08 am
Hi Sio,
There are two ways you can take to go sri petaling or bukit jalil lrt. The fatest way is taking Kesas highway which i think it only takes 5-6 minutes. But you have to pay for it, rm 2.20. You can make an u-turn under the fly-over in front of shell petrol station or pass thru Tmn Mawar in Tmn Kinrara to turn into Kesas highway.
Another way is Puchong-Sg. Besi highway, a bit longer but foc. Most people would choose this.
If there was a direct access to NPE, then i think KTM station would be the nearest.
Comment by zenxz — January 5, 2007 @ 9:12 am
Dear CK,
Sunway view still got in 20th floor, hope u could be my neighbour! hehe!!
Better visit the site at this Sunday lah.
Comment by Yeoh — January 5, 2007 @ 10:03 am
The company that handles the construction work is the same company who has built Koi Tropika Block A & B.
Comment by zenxz — January 5, 2007 @ 11:18 am
Hi zenxz,
if like then, then how? the contactor no good ah?
Comment by Yeoh — January 5, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
hi every1,
sorry for late reply coz the taiwan quake has make the internet line very bad and so slow.
so i cant log in event at my house
Comment by SK.Wan — January 5, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
hi ck,
im sk wan from this developer, sry that meow buy your unit.u can call me at 012-270 8020 or 03-8061 8033 for more info. and i can help u with view direction and getting u a nice lot if u let me noe more wat u wanted. im can do sales and also admin work and loan.by the way,has u check loan?
hi hahf,
its ok.its a free world to speak, the management problem at the beginning.me n my college try to fix those prob as best as we can do and most of this prob case occur b4 my time.
call me if got anything. glad to hear and help
hi nbooi,
your promo package is same, this new package is not available 4 u coz price has increase. u buy cheaper.u has save money when u buy early.
hi sio,
regarding on lrt, now the nearest star lrt is at bukit jalil and sri petaling and putra lrt at kelana jaya.
good new is that lrt going to expand to puchong. plan and budget has approved but its will be complete in 4 more year. u can c starpaper article at april 06 and oct 06 but i have forget which day
hi yy,
u can call me at 012-270 8020 or office at 03-8061 8033,im staff of this develop and i also can handle sales and give u all d info u wanted in and out…hehehe
hi zenxz,
this contractor has not appointed yet but its will be different from koi tropika.coz block a and b of koi tropika workmanship is not meet the expectation of the management and also me…….
i will be at the event on 7 jan 07 at 12 noon, glad to meet u guyz. come n we will have a chit chat. if any1 need info best call me on saturday or come visit me at sales office coz at the event i cant show much info on plans and data coz cant bring all doc to site and many crowd and less place to discuss.
and u all said that the sales ppl from giant counter just tell u guyz about free gift.hahahaha these ppl are appointed execlusive sales agents……….. need more info can contact me at 012- 270 8020.
Comment by SK.Wan — January 5, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
Hi SK. Wan,
Since now is Janaury 2007. When will the S&P document be stamp?
Comment by Jackie — January 6, 2007 @ 1:08 am
Hi all,
I have a suggestion, may all of you write down here which unit you already bought? Might be we keep in touch, coz we are future neighbour. Hehe!
The unit I bought is A-20-08.
Comment by Yeoh — January 6, 2007 @ 11:03 am
i went to the ceremony..no ppls come yet, might go again later.
Comment by CK — January 7, 2007 @ 11:08 am
Yeoh!!! i bought 17th floor but same number as u..No.8!! 20th floor no more 1072 sqf. Do u have contact number? wanna share intro fee with u!!!
Comment by CK — January 7, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
Hi CK, I just went back from the ceremony, just now chat with SK Wan, he told me that u already bought from agent.
Happy to hear that from you, we’ll be the neighbour.
My contact is 012-209 3921.
Comment by Yeoh — January 7, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
A-20-08- Yeoh
A-15-11- Meow
A-17-08- CK
Comment by CK — January 7, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
I went there..but i forgot to bring along SK hp number. So back to the agent who served me b4 lo but i asked the agent and he didn’t se SK around. Anyway..should be same la, hope SK wil answer me my question although didn’t purchase from him. Hehee..facing sunway the right choice, choose near to enterance so u will be y from “lojisss” & kilang besi busuk..haha
Comment by CK — January 7, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
ck,
haha..sure buy ah??need to wait till 2009..2 yr more..
if no money, can get from me..:)
Comment by Freenight — January 7, 2007 @ 7:23 pm
loan shark doing his advertisement here! lol, mr. loan shark, u also got ur house at the age lie that..keke
Comment by CK — January 7, 2007 @ 7:33 pm
I upload some pictures at “http://koikinrara.blogspot.com/”
Seem all words here may hard for some peoples to imaging.
Comment by CK — January 7, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
B-09-08, any B Block purchaser?
Comment by Anson — January 8, 2007 @ 11:42 am
Halo, Yeoh, I’d booked ur’s up-stair A-21-08.
Meow is my friend oso at A-15-11
We just back from yesterday pilling ceremony, and dapat iron and rice-cooker only…hahahha
Comment by Kenny — January 8, 2007 @ 12:21 pm
A-20-08- Yeoh
A-15-11- Meow
A-17-08- CK
B-09-08- Anson
Comment by Yeoh — January 8, 2007 @ 1:30 pm
Hi Kenny, wow!!! u r upside of me leh!! hehe!!! That’s great!
Seem like we all gonna have committee before we live in!! haha!!
This are the updated resident:
A-20-08- Yeoh
A-15-11- Meow
A-17-08- CK
A-21-08- Kenny
B-09-08- Anson
Comment by Yeoh — January 8, 2007 @ 5:24 pm
haha.. Kenny is very good guy. U can every go up can “Chi Chan” at kenny there … wahaha!!!!
yesterday nite got 1 pretty gal join in also :
A-20-08- Yeoh
A-15-11- Meow
A-17-08- CK
A-21-08- Kenny
B-09-08- Anson
A-17-11- Cat
Comment by Meow — January 8, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
Hehe, we should force a strong committee then in order to stop those factories continue to ’smoke’ there… else our’s outside wall will become black color…
Yeoh, next time register for streamxy, i will then cucuk lobang for more strengh signal to access to ur access point.. wahaha ^_^
Comment by Kenny — January 8, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
yup.. we should have strong enuf committee to protect our property, if not… new condo will very fast to become old old de condo…
Comment by Meow — January 8, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
Hi Kenny & Meow,
Dont worry, I sure will register for streamys one!! haha!! We can share it all!!
For the factory purpose, I heard from SK Wan, he said all those factory which near to our condo are illegal one, accept those near to river. And for those near to our condo, actually the land is belong to Masteron, we can fight to ask those factory to move out. To be frank, I hate a lot that one with smoke coming out & that besi buruk, the besi buruk one is very NOISY! Those live in block C will suffer, so we must strong enought to ask them move!!
Comment by Yeoh — January 8, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
Hi Kenny & Meow,
To correct my comment of the factory. Actually all the factory nearby our condo is illegal, include those near to river.
The different is, those land near to river is not belong to Masteron, but for those near to our Condo is belong to Masteron.
Comment by Yeoh — January 8, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
Hi all,
There are 2 things which are wondering me about our new condo:
1) The salesman of Koi Kinrara currently most is Par timer, they’ll not take any responsibility after they sold the property to the purchase, all they want is SALES & COMMISION, so they’ll do what ever they can to sold out the property, I’m wondering the future purchaser they might not satisfy and happy to living in Koi Kinrara due to it’s not what they expected. Once they’re not satisfy with, they’ll not responsible of all the facilities in Koi Kinrara, they might not paying the Maintenance Fees or don’t keep the environment clean. This is a problem!
2) I’m worried about some purchaser they just want to invest. If they buy it & live, then wait for few years and sold it out, I have no comment about this and this is their right to do this. But the problem is, if they already have own house, they just purchase and rent it out, then that’s the problem. First, we cant control who will be purchaser rent to, the one whose rent the unit, he/she sure wont pay any maintenance fees and wont take care of the facilities, back to the landlord, I don’t think the landlord will pay the maintenance fees also, coz he/she is not living here…
Actually this 2 issues we cant control it, I just want to sound it out.
Comment by Yeoh — January 8, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
Updated rensidents list (Arrange by level):
A-21-08- Kenny
A-20-08- Yeoh
A-17-11- Cat
A-17-08- CK
A-15-11- Meow
B-09-08- Anson
And who else? Quick quick “pou tou”! hehe!
Why seldom Block B residents go online one…
Comment by Yeoh — January 8, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
haha, Thanks Yeoh!!! what you consider actually is also we consider.. So, We must have very strong relationship between each other(sometime we also can have BBQ together
). So, even have facing problem, then we also have ppl to disccusion.
hehe…!! Welcome Anson join in !!!
Comment by Meow — January 8, 2007 @ 7:16 pm
Yeoh,
Usually the maintenance not pay by most of the investor one.
But I’d heard my friend said that the government announced last month for all the owner like us have to be pay for maintenance fee as well. Else the management side has the right to sue the owner and next will ‘feng’ their house or make it as lelong unit. I don’t know is that true. If it is true, the maintenance fee will sure get pay by every unit. Thus we have $$ to repaint every year… hahaha.
About the part-time salesman, I just get knew of it from you. This really out of control…
Comment by Kenny — January 8, 2007 @ 7:20 pm
Hi Meow, actually is Anson said welcome us lah! haha! You see No. 39, he’s much more earlier than us leh! haha!
So Kenny, we better study all the documents that we sign, I think if what you said is true, it should be stated in S&P or whatever document, me & my spouse now read every cross of it, but take time, coz it’s too many….
It’s good also if it’s true, I heard the Singapore government have this kind law, so even their Flat also maintaining very well.
Comment by Yeoh — January 8, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
Updated rensidents list (Arrange by level):
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-17-11} Cat
A-17-08} CK
A-15-11} Meow
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
Finally found some from Block B.
Comment by Yeoh — January 8, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
Updated rensidents list (Arrange by level):
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-17-11} Cat
A-17-08} CK
A-15-11} Meow
B-18-12) Jackie
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
Get more people in, maybe we can form a KOI Kinrara commitee.
Comment by Jackie — January 8, 2007 @ 8:21 pm
Hi Jackie,
Welcome to join our commitee!! hehe!!
Comment by Yeoh — January 8, 2007 @ 8:25 pm
Aiyo..seem like my top & bottom neigbours never go online one *Sigh* Who will share streamyx with me then? haha…cat? We all apply wireless la, whole building can use ;-p So, can we plan to sign the S&P together? Share our opinion each others. I heard the sales person said that all “shechule H” same, really? Again, nice to meet u all!
Comment by CK — January 9, 2007 @ 12:58 am
HI all,last sunday went to the ceremony asking few question for sales personl.All of u know ‘Alex Khoo’ koi kinrara sales person? i asking him about the sinking fund,he tell me is 10% of our maintenance fee and mayb pay half year or 1 year once!Any comment about is???
Updated rensidents list (Arrange by level):
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-17-11} Cat
A-17-08} CK
A-15-11} Meow
B-18-12) Jackie
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02 Tiger
Comment by tiger — January 9, 2007 @ 7:45 am
Hi tiger,according to SK Wan, the sinking fund is RM0.05 per squarefeet, but whether it’s pay monthly? halfyearly? or yearly? this one I dont know. Should be include in S&P.
Comment by Yeoh — January 9, 2007 @ 8:20 am
Hi, I’m a new buyer few months ago. I bought a A-12-08 unit. Nice to hear your guys comments.
Comment by John — January 9, 2007 @ 9:27 am
Hi John,
Welcome to join us ya!!
Updated rensidents list (Arrange by level):
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-17-11} Cat
A-17-08} CK
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
B-18-12) Jackie
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02) Tiger
Comment by Yeoh — January 9, 2007 @ 9:41 am
Me, Meow, and Cat ’s sales person is Tony Tee. He told me that the sinking fund is 5% from maintenance fee.
0.15 x 1072 sqf
= RM160.80 + (160.80 x 0.05)
= 160.80 + 8.04
= 168.84
But sinking fund dont know pay by monthly/half yearly/yearly
Comment by Kenny — January 9, 2007 @ 9:42 am
yaya… one month need to pay RM168.84 for maintenance fee and sinking fee le… So must fully utilize the facilities at condo
Comment by Meow — January 9, 2007 @ 9:51 am
Hi All:
Nice to see that everyone are sharing their view and opinions.We must be united and coorperate together in order to fight for the benefit for all of us and other Koi Kinrara resident.Keep up the good work!
Comment by Anson — January 9, 2007 @ 10:10 am
hi guys. I did not attend the party as I was in Singapore. Well, i am glad to see so many response; though i would like to say that it is rather pointless to worry bout things like part time agents selling the condo. Many developers sell houses this way. So if you are worried bout these things, the best is to buy second hand houses.
Comment by nbooi — January 9, 2007 @ 11:42 am
Dear All,
The sinking fund is RM0.05 psf instead of 5% of ur maintainance fees, it according to SK Wan, please refer to No.197 which post by SK Wan.
Kenny, Meow, Cat:
Be frank, I dont like Tony, because last week I went to Giant & meet him, he dont know I’m the purchaser and keep on promote me, then I try to ask a few question, some question he dont even answer me and keep on told me free this free that, anyway, this is fine. but then when I ask why the Condo surrounded by factory, he keep on saying that that is no factory there, then I direct told him I just went to the side and saw those factory, u know what’s his answer?! He said: you should not go to the side first, you must go to the show house. After that he just walk away and leave me & my gf standing there…
So I cant believe this guy at all!
Comment by Yeoh — January 9, 2007 @ 12:19 pm
Dear all,
The sinking fund is RM0.05 per square feet, and it’s pay by yearly.
For example, if your unit size is 1072 sqf, means you need to pay RM53.60 per year for sinking fund.
Comment by Yeoh — January 9, 2007 @ 12:26 pm
hi nbooi,
I agree with what you said, most of the sales they sell the property like this, what to do? Just accept lor.
Anyway, actually I like a lot Koi Kinrara, it’s exactly as what I want, but I dint purchase throught part time agent, coz last time they dont use part time agent.
Comment by Yeoh — January 9, 2007 @ 12:58 pm
hi all,
sinking fund is 5 sen psf collect monthly(lastest news)and not 5% as tony tee say(he giving WRONG info),
and peryear only rm53.60 is too little.painting 1 block is already cost around 50k.
and 4 those owner that not pay the maintaince fee the developer or building management has the right to sue but this new act still has NOT approved by the parlimen …………its has been proposed 1 year ago
Comment by SK.Wan — January 9, 2007 @ 9:45 pm
Hi SK Wan,u write down sinking fund collect monthly and 5sen psf,RM0.05X1072=RM53.60 and if 1 year should be RM53.6 X 12=RM643.2.why u only say pay RM53.6?Is i calculated wrong o u calculated wrong??Thank you…
Comment by tiger — January 10, 2007 @ 7:31 am
That’s what i tried to bring out before, don’t you think main fee already 0.15 per sqf some more sinking fund that cost rm0.05 per sqf. Every month we gonna pay 2++ to the management…so far the highest i heard among others condo. So meaning that the facilities not need to pay a single cent if we use it?
Comment by CK — January 10, 2007 @ 9:34 am
Seems like 3 of us become a victim of Tony Tee liao, 5% from maintanence fee and 5 cent/sqf is a lot diff!!!
Supposely as I calculated should pay every month as much of 168.84. But now,
0.2 x 1072 sqf = RM212.40 monthly. This is RM45.56 different leh!!!
Comment by Kenny — January 10, 2007 @ 9:40 am
WAH…. @_@!!! HOW CAN????
Shit, Tony give us wat kind of info… >:(
This kind of maintenance fee,if we still need to pay for facilities, then i will ” ju sik kong yi”
2++ if consider very high maintenance fee already, if they dun provide “very very very very ….. good” service to resident, then no point we still pay this kind of maintenance fee… VERY ANGRY NOW…!!!!
Comment by Meow — January 10, 2007 @ 9:50 am
This is really bad starting point! Coz I dont expected that this kind of info also can providly wrong to customer as a sales representative!
Comment by Kenny — January 10, 2007 @ 9:53 am
Did developer ask go to sign s&p? I heard from the agent said that they stamp late for our benefit so that bank won’t charge us the interest. So, which bank u all get the loan? SBB?
Comment by CK — January 10, 2007 @ 9:54 am
ju sik kong yi
Comment by CK — January 10, 2007 @ 9:59 am
So far have 2 bank approach to me, CIMB is the one with BLR-0.8% with zero entry cost. The other one is Alliance Bank, it can get much more better from it (what I heard is 1-5yrs 1% and subsequent year is 1.2% minus from BLR with non-zero entry fees)
Comment by Kenny — January 10, 2007 @ 10:01 am
Hi CK, what I heard is the interest will start pay about year 2008 lor… is it true?
Comment by Kenny — January 10, 2007 @ 10:06 am
Hi all,
Let me help SK Wan to answer your question. Let us use type B for example.
Maintainance Fee:
RM 0.15 X 1072 = RM 160.80 per month
Sinking Fund:
RM 0.05 x 1072 = RM 53.60 per year
(for sinking fund, the management planing to collect it monthly, coz RM 53.60 pay for yearly maybe is a burden for some people)
So, Monthly Maintainance Fee & Sinking Fund is=
RM 160.80 + (RM 53.60 / 12 months)
= 165.27
So, is it my explaination clear?
Comment by Yeoh — January 10, 2007 @ 10:39 am
Yeah! This really make clear. Thx Yeoh!
Comment by Kenny — January 10, 2007 @ 10:46 am
Dear All,
For the interest purpose. Kindly refer to the Schedule 1 to Schedule 4 in our S&P, it’s stated clearly.
If I’m not mistaken, once the pilling finish, the developer will withdraw 20% from the banker, and the banker will issue a letter to us, ask us to sign for release the 20%, once the 20% released, the bank will charge us the interest from this 20%.
If you required more details of this information, kindly refer to the S&P, it’s stated very clear.
Comment by Yeoh — January 10, 2007 @ 11:00 am
I believe what yeoh said is correct, impposible to have such high sinking fund fee. Yeoh, gambateh to finish the S&P. Haha~
Comment by CK — January 10, 2007 @ 12:29 pm
hi all, tsk here. my is B-3A-02. I would like to know when will our stamped S&P be returned to us? bcos they take few months oledi…i think i will call them n check.
Comment by teesk — January 11, 2007 @ 12:09 am
Updated rensidents list (Arrange by level):
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-17-11} Cat
A-17-08} CK
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
B-18-12) Jackie
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-3A-02} teesk
Comment by Yeoh — January 11, 2007 @ 1:34 am
Morning everyone, dun u all feel that koi kinrara project abit quiet?
Comment by CK — January 12, 2007 @ 9:14 am
Morning everyone. I’m new to the forum here. I’m interested at Koi Legian earlier but I found Koi Kinrara. I just found that Koi Legian is leased hold. However, the space in Koi Legian is more and density is lower. Anyone has looked into Koi Legian before? Any advice? Thanks.
Comment by Derrick — January 12, 2007 @ 10:16 am
Go for koi kinrara…hehe
Comment by CK — January 12, 2007 @ 12:58 pm
Hi Derrick,
Koi Legian expensive & the environment surrunding no good, coz every morning I’ll pass by that place.
So, Look for Koi Kinrara lah!! hehe!!
Comment by Yeoh — January 12, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
Hey CK and Yeoh
Yeah, I agree to you after seeing the show units. The layout for Koi Kinrara is exactly what I want. Expecially the large master room and toilets. Some more it’s free hold. I just kind of worry about the high-density. We are going to have 1000 units. There are good and bad. Most of the people stay here will be single or small family due to the 2-rooms concept. What say you? I buy it for renting out. Anyone know the rental rate around that area?
Comment by Derrick — January 12, 2007 @ 2:55 pm
i hope everything can go smoothly…2009 we rally got house liao…hahahaha….mm…exucuse me..
i call lawyer yesterday…they said need more 2 months just return our stamped S&P to us…somemore hvn stamping now…haiii…tolong…
Comment by teesk — January 12, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
Hi Derrick,
I lazy to write in any comment for you.
Kindly read No. 245, that’s just my feeling.
Comment by Yeoh — January 13, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
Hi Derrick,
I lazy to write in any comment for you.
Kindly read No. 245, that’s just my feeling, hope you’ll understand.
Comment by Yeoh — January 13, 2007 @ 1:34 pm
Hi Yeoh
That’s your personel comment. I read and acknowledged that. I personally think that not all landlords will be like that. Let’s see.
By the way, I just talked to SK Wan today. Your calculation is not correct. He told me sinking fund of 5 sen per square feet is paidly monthly. I have a lengthy discussion with him. Here is my calculation that I proof to him that the developer is earning a lot of money out of sinking fund:
1000 units X RM50 = RM 50,000/month
1 year = RM50K x 12 = RM600,000
5 year = RM600K x 5 = RM3,000,000 (3 million)
Out of this 3 million, only RM200,000 is used to repaint the building (RM50K X 4 blocks). I wondered how Masteron will use the rest of the money. SK Wan gave me example like maintenance of the swimming pool, lift and security guard. That does not make sense to me. These expenses should go to the monthly management fee (RM160).
According to SK Wan, the fees collected and how it is used will be published for the community. We need a strong committee board to protect our benefit.
FYI, I just bought a unit. Everything is perfect for me. I’m just quite irritated by this sinking fund thing because it is a lot above the market rate. For Koi Tropika Puchong, the sinking fund is absorbed to the 15 sen of management fees monthly. For other properties, I know they collect the sinking fund every 3 months, 6 months/ yearly. I need help if all of you can collect some info about the sinking fund in other condo/serviced apartment. I’m totally not convinced by SK’s explanation on. By the way, I do not blame him because that’s his company policy. But we need a reasonable action for this.
Comment by Derrick — January 13, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
Hello, everyone
I searched through the web, here is the definition of Management fee and Sinking Fund:
Monthly management fees collected from the owners is used to upkeep the facilities. Sinking fund is used for major repairs.
SK Wan, I hope you can try to understand this and bring back to the management. I understand that Masteron is relatively new in property management. A lot yet for the company to learn from other properties. It is not just charging according to what the company perceives, there are laws and regulation to control the charge.
I understand that the responsibility of the condo owner to pay the sinking fund and management fee for a proper maintenance of the facility and building. Here is what I found in the internet: “Without sufficient collection and payment by the residents to the maintenance and or sinking fund, the developer appears to bear no burden to incur the cost and debt of such maintenance out of their pocket.”
However, we need to know, why is Masteron is reserving such a huge amount of sinking fund, for what kind of major repair that they are expecting?
Here is what I found: “It is conceded that at this juncture there would exist the irresistible temptation to jettison the entire submission contained here with the argument of the existence of deceitful developers manipulating of the available funds for their benefit. ”
Bear in mind that this sinking fund is continuously paid until building finally die off. If the developer is getting 3 million every 5 years. What about 10 years? 20 years?
A lot people have been annoyed by the toll increase lately. Even the government is trying to squeeze some money out of our pocket without giving sufficient reasons. What about the commercial developer that is trying increase the profit. We need to make sure this will not happen to the property that we buy. This is our hard-earned money and we have to make sure it is spent in a rightful way.
Comment by Derrick — January 13, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
Dear Derrick & All,
Sorry for my comment to you, we really hope that you are a good landlord. I just would like to sound out my feeling to you. No other meanings.
By the way, thank a lot for your information of the sinking fund.
I just found out this statement from the “DEED OF MUTUAL CONVENANTS”:
The MONTHLY sinking fund contribution payable by the Purchaser for the first TWENTY FOUR (24) MONTHS from the date of delivery or deemed delivery of vacant possession of the said Parcel shall be a rate of RINGGIT MALAYSIA FIVE SEN (RM0.05) PER SQUARE FOOT subject to any change to be made by the Vendor thereafter.
SK Wan, Previously you told me we only pay RM53.60 per year for the sinking fund, but right now from the statement, it seem like we need to pay RM53.60 for every months.
Comment by Yeoh — January 13, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
we pay rm160.80 maintenance fee every month for facilities, y we still need to pay rm53.60 for everymonth? its really too much and unfair for us. Derrick, i agree v u, SK Wan, we need a explanation, let us more clear about this, thanx.
Comment by teesk — January 14, 2007 @ 2:56 am
Dear All,
I just went to see the lawyer of Koi Kinrara, ask him about this sinking fund purpose, the lawyer said according to the Agreement, it’s truth that we need to pay the sinking fund RM53.60 per months for at least 2 years.
Ai… this is really bad…
Comment by Yeoh — January 14, 2007 @ 4:45 pm
Dear All,
I just ask my friend which is live in Sri Bayu Apartment beside of Koi Kinrara, he said their Maintenance Fees is RM0.18 per sf, then the sinking fund is about RM0.04 pay by quarterly. With Sri Bayu that kind of facilities, also need to pay such high of fund…
Hi Derrick,
My friend which stay in Sri Bayu said their rental for 1212 sqft is RM900 per months, I think in Koi Kinrara, you need to rent more than that,if not I wounldn’t enought to cover all the fees. Hope this information can help you.
Comment by Yeoh — January 14, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
A-22-08} Edwin
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-17-11} Cat
A-17-08} CK
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
B-18-12) Jackie
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-3A-02} teesk
CANNOT BE rm0.05 per sqf monthly! Lets talk eith the management!
Comment by CK — January 14, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
hi every 1,
refer to no.265 that i say rm 53.60 per year collection is too little. and rm 0.05 psf collect monthly for sunking fund
for example 1072 psf per month collection :
maintaince rm 0.15 = 160.80
sinking fund = 53.60
wat i get from management, usage of sinking fund is for major repair like pams, lift,light, cctv, generator, gym equipment ,bbq set ,and etc.mostly are assets.
thanks yeoh on your info,
sri bayu are collecting rm0.04 with less facility. and i think that amount is set few years ago.few years back costing are not that high.
and ours is only start on 2009 till 2011. so management has to decide rm0.05 psf.
we have 5 lvl of carpark and 1 wading and 2 swimming pool.
car park and lift with cctv
1 club house, 2 squesd court (sry wrong spelling).
by the way , u all can call me at 012-270 8020 if need more info and also booking of purchased. i will do wat i can to help and assist u all.
and wat i say here is not directed by my management.my company do not know i write here and im not here doing customer services for my company.i doing on my free will and just wanna help and make friends and sales if possible……
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020 — January 14, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
Hi CK,
Who is it Edwin? Ur friend ah?
Welcome Edwin to join us ya!!
Comment by Yeoh — January 14, 2007 @ 9:58 pm
The expecting monthly fees are RM160.80, now going to RM214.40 … still cant accept it…
What kind of life is it… without eat also every months need to pay approximately RM2000 for HOUSE! PETROL! TOLL!!!
Comment by Yeoh — January 14, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
5 level carpark, what need to be repair?
1 wadding and 2 swimming pool, what need to be repair?
1 club house, 2 squash court, what need to be repair?
CCTV and Lift, is this standard condo service? what kind of major repair need?
It’s all seems like ‘ridiculous’. Aren’t we are served by these service for most of the condo as a standard and basic facilities in term of ‘CONDO’?
Did you all seen a building given the term ‘CONDO’ dint provide such services? Lift, Pool, Security…etc
Sorry for I might act a bit angry, but this is my opinions.
53.60 for sinking fund by monthly, this really throw all the cost to owner as we pay more but not neccesary get the gurranty product or goods!
Thanks to Derriks info, appreciated to you that find out this kind of hidden thing to us.
As I’m mentioned in early time, Tony Tee really made big mistake to his customer as he said sinking fund is 5% monthly from the maintenance fee!
Comment by Kenny — January 15, 2007 @ 10:09 am
Edwin~ yeah yeah, welcome! My top neightbour will be you and bottom neightbour will be Yeoh!
Comment by Kenny — January 15, 2007 @ 10:11 am
b4 i buy this, the they dint told me abt the sinking fund; when sign s&p, the lawyer also dint show me abt this. And rm53.60, is really too much. 1000 unit there, x 53.60=..alot men…somemore we need to pay the maintenance fee…i don belive then maintenance fee is not enough cover…if sinking fund is per hafl year…i still can accept…hey all, we go MCA to complane this..is really unfair to us..
Comment by teesk — January 15, 2007 @ 10:36 am
for example 1072 psf per month collection :
maintaince rm 0.15 = 160.80
sinking fund = 53.60
wat SK WAN get from management, usage of sinking fund is for major repair like pams, lift,light, cctv, generator, gym equipment ,bbq set ,and etc.mostly are assets…then what the maintenance fee for??
Comment by teesk — January 15, 2007 @ 10:40 am
Dear All,
I’m not that type of people which like to make complain, but in this kind of case, we pay such high of fees, I hope the mangement will do their job WELL!!! I DONT WANT TO SEE ANY SINGLE BROKEN PIECE in all the facilities! Althought single piece of tile broken I’ll MAKE COMPLAIN ON IT!!!
Comment by Yeoh — January 15, 2007 @ 10:43 am
Hi Yeoh
Thanks for the useful info.
I have booked the unit A-19-08, Sunway Pyramid View. I wonder who has booked A-18-08, the best number hahaha. Edwin has bought after me, on Last Saturday is it? I was thinking A-22-08 too.
I like a lot of the things in this condo like the good view, big swimming pool. If I cannot rent out with a reasonable rental, might as well sell my current property and stay in this condo. I hope with that kind of monthly charge (RM200++), I’m expecting a higher class service. For example, gym facility like Fitness First.
I’m yet to wait for the bank loan processing.
Comment by Derrick — January 15, 2007 @ 10:45 am
derrick, dont dream on for your “higher class service”. there is none! come to koi tropika and witness for yourself the service they provided. good luck.
just passing by…
Comment by hahf — January 15, 2007 @ 10:58 am
wow… so much to pay… i am speechless. However, if the gym is like that of fitness first; i have no qualms paying. hahhaha if it is but an al cheapo kinda gym then it will really be a rip off. So finger’s crossed; we will get quality equipment.
Comment by nbooi — January 15, 2007 @ 11:03 am
Mine unit been cancelled due to agent mistake!!! Can’t believe it! Now they are suggest me A-21-11, so how u all think? What i should i do?
Comment by CK — January 15, 2007 @ 11:05 am
A-22-08} Edwin
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-19-08} Derrick
A-17-11} Cat
A-17-08} CK
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
B-18-12) Jackie
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-3A-02} teesk
Haha, finally on top and bottom of me also got occupant. Derrick, I hope u’ll move in lah… hehe!!
Comment by Yeoh — January 15, 2007 @ 11:16 am
If agreement has been sign-off, does complaint will make any useful effect such as lower down the sinking fund? I dont think so. Strong community can only protect our basic benefit. Not expect too high but eyes should put on their action for all the time being.
Comment by Kenny — January 15, 2007 @ 11:17 am
Hi CK,
what view is it?
Comment by Yeoh — January 15, 2007 @ 11:18 am
Hi all, my msn is
kenny_njc@hotmail.com
:)
Comment by Kenny — January 15, 2007 @ 11:20 am
HI Kenny,
Yesterday I did ask the lawyer about this, the lawyer said, within this 2 years we cant do anythings, but after 2 years we’ll take over the management if our committee strong enough, so if we think that the facilities which developer given not worth for that kind of fees we paid, we can revise is into paying by quoterly of halfyearly.
So the conclusion is, we cant change anythings right now, and WE MUST STRONG ENOUGH & STICK TOGETHER!!!
Comment by Yeoh — January 15, 2007 @ 11:24 am
Dear all,
My MSN is elwen_yeoh@hotmail.com
Comment by Yeoh — January 15, 2007 @ 11:25 am
Mine is derekwan@hotmail.com.
I have not signed yet. I’ll check if I can change the holiday package to pay off the sinking fund for the first 2 years. I’m not sure what kind of holiday package they will give us.
Yeah, we hv to negotiate in a group.
Yeoh, thanks for the warm invitation. We still hv 2-years down the road. Will see.
Comment by Derrick — January 15, 2007 @ 11:38 am
OMG!i can’t believe that we are paying two hundred plus for the maintainance fees and sinking funds,this is comparable to luxury condo located at Mont Kiara and Damansara area!
Yes,we cannot do anything right now as we have signed the S&P, but we can STRESS them and make a lot of NOISE to them!don’t let them feel this is easy money to earn from us!
Comment by Anson — January 15, 2007 @ 11:44 am
Yeah, exactly. And those are low density condo. We are high density condo.
Comment by Derrick — January 15, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
Hi All buyers of Koi Kinrara
To complaint about the Sinking Fund, please contact (email/call/personal visit) the division below. I have submitted a complaint via email. If anyone can make a phone call??? Let’s act on this before getting too late…
http://www.iproperty.com.my/articles/buyingguide.htm
Enquiries and complaints
You may contact:
Monitoring and Enforcement Division
Ministry of Housing and Local Government
Level 3, Block B North, Pusat Bandar Damansara
50782 KUALA LUMPUR
Tel : 03-2094 7033
Fax: 03- 2092 5049
Forward your complaints here, complete and click send. Or e-mail our enforcement officers at enforcement@kpkt.gov.my, giving your full name, IC no, developer’s name, name of housing project, etc.
Before proceeding please browse through the FAQ section provided.
Please refer also to the prepared article, Housing and You, which has appeared in the local papers.
This is a division under the Ministry of Housing and Local Government and it is responsible for the implementation and enforcement of the provisions of the Housing Developers (Control and Licensing) Act (Act 118).
Comment by Derrick — January 15, 2007 @ 2:30 pm
hi all,
Did everybody already signed the s&p?
the developer already discuss the free packege with you all?
i’m a bit scared is the agent keep telling me that the lawyer will call me to sign for the s&p, but until today also i haven’t receive any response from the lawyer!!!!
Comment by ray — January 15, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
I guess you don’t have to rush for SPA yet after the loan approval. Kenny told me that once the SPA is sgined, the bank has to start releasing money to the developer, and if the bank payment is late to the developer, you will be charged interest.
Comment by Derrick — January 15, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Hey guy,
I being asked to change unit due to the unit i booked before sold out (management mistake). I just want to ask whether shuould i change (because i have the purchase receipt) if i change then what should i require?
Comment by CK — January 15, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
Dear all,
I already e-mail to government to complaint about this sinking fund purpose.
Comment by Yeoh — January 15, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
Dear all
I read this article in the website: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/11/27/nation/16141603&sec=nation
Owners of high-rise units are looking at a tough choice – should they support the proposed amendments to the Valuers, Appraisers and Estate Agents Act 1981, or not.
The amendments, if passed, would give apartment, condominium and high-rise commercial unit owners better protection by licensing and regulating the activities of property managers, the Board of Valuers, Appraisers and Estate Agents s
On the other hand, a group which opposes the amendments fears that licensing and regulating property management companies would result in maintenance fees going up by between 30% and 40%
Derrick
- if this Act is amended, our fee will further increase 30-40%???? Does the developer already consider this increase??? I guess not.
Comment by Derrick — January 15, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
A-22-08} Edwin
A-21-11} CK
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-19-08} Derrick
A-17-11} Cat
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
B-18-12) Jackie
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-3A-02} teesk
Comment by Yeoh — January 15, 2007 @ 6:54 pm
hie guys…i also bought a unit couple of weeks ago,but i noticed a plastic factory located nearby(for sunway view) which worries me..according to the agent,it is an illegal factory and the authorities are going to tear it apart soon..find it hard to believe..anyone else noticed it?
Comment by space^monkey — January 16, 2007 @ 9:19 am
[Quote from 312]Yesterday I did ask the lawyer about this, the lawyer said, within this 2 years we cant do anythings, but after 2 years we’ll take over the management if our committee strong enough[/Quote]
You cannot take over from management without strata title issued. And strata title normally will only be issued after many years.
Comment by hahf — January 16, 2007 @ 10:27 am
I heard that the strata title have to be wait until all units selling out then only will get issued for it. Normally atleast 5-10 yrs.
What hahf said is true… I guess.
Hello space^monkey. Welcome~ which unit you bought?
Comment by Kenny — January 16, 2007 @ 10:46 am
Hi Space Monkey,
If u dont mind kindly let us know ur unit, so that we can add u in, hehe!
And this is my MSN: elwen_yeoh@hotmail.com, if u have using MSN, kindly add me, then I’ll invite u to join our group conversation through MSN, hehe!!
Hi hahf,
Thanks for ur information, by the way… I think u dislike this developer a lot wor… can u tell us what’s happening between u & the developer ah?
Comment by Yeoh — January 16, 2007 @ 11:38 am
NO worry guys, when there a problem there is a way to solve it. Solution get a Air purifier to have fresh air..hehe. Get it from me…all neigbhour, count u all cheap cheap. LOL!
Comment by CK — January 16, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
hahaha ck, u selling air purifier? lol
anyway me no comment on sinking fund, i only explain purpose of sunking fund according to project ppl.
i have say earlier to management regarding on this fee is high b4 its launch this project but they say costing is high and no choice.if can they also wanna lower fee cos it help sales (low maintaince fee easier to sell)
sry anson,
maintaince fee at monte kiara charging around 350-500 permonth and damansara are charging around 250-400,
250-350 as for subang and pj for condos.
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020 — January 16, 2007 @ 8:18 pm
Hi all i just i am the person who booked A-22-08 and it seems like CK has updated the residents list already. I just started to read this forum today so sorry for the late reply. Anyway it is good to know who my future neighbours is an everyone seems to be so helping each other and united!!! Nice to to know you all and thank you for all the info that you guys have given!!
Comment by Edwin — January 17, 2007 @ 1:05 am
Hi Edwin,
Welcome to join us, CK told us about you already. If u r using MSN, kindly add me and Kenny, so that we could chat throughh MSN ya.
Comment by Yeoh — January 17, 2007 @ 8:11 am
Hi SK Wan,
Do u mind to update us about how many percent sold out in Block A & B ah?
Comment by Yeoh — January 17, 2007 @ 8:15 am
[quote 327]Hi hahf,
Thanks for ur information, by the way… I think u dislike this developer a lot wor… can u tell us what’s happening between u & the developer ah?[/quote]
Not only me, i guess most of the koi tropika residents have bad experience with masteron/lingkaran. Promises which never fulfilled, Services which never satisfied etc. For those that havent sign on dotted line, please have a look on this developer past projects first, especially Koi Tropika. Do not lure by their promises, it is empty! Insist on getting black&white on their promise. The freebies (holiday/electrical) offering is nothing if you get a bad quality/planning/service when u move in. Think carefully, the house u buy will be your long term burden. Choose wisely, especially this kind of HIGH DENSITY condo. The Koi Tropika residents felt cheated. Do no repeat our step.
Comment by hahf — January 17, 2007 @ 11:13 am
..reading all the comments on koi tropika..isnt it scary for us buyers of kinrara?how sure can we be that they do not repeat their mistakes?the deal sounds good but if they dont deliver it well,it will be very very dissapointing.anyway thanks to those who unveiled the truth on koi tropika..at least we are aware now…sigh
Comment by space^monkey — January 17, 2007 @ 12:21 pm
..reading all the comments on koi tropika..isnt it scary for us buyers of kinrara?how sure can we be that they do not repeat their mistakes?the deal sounds good but if they dont deliver it well,it will be very very dissapointing.anyway thanks to those who unveiled the truth on koi tropika..at least we are aware now…sigh
Comment by space^monkey — January 17, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
hANF…bad quality/planning/service???EXAMPLE?
Comment by CK — January 18, 2007 @ 1:02 am
hanf
Tell us more.
Comment by Derrick — January 18, 2007 @ 9:23 am
Hi,
The examples I disclosed here strictly apply to Koi Tropika only. It may or may not happen to Koi Kinrara. Good luck anyway.
Quality - The quality of the building/unit is bad. Uneven wall,ceiling etc, hollow tiles, water leaking, cracks everywhere including structural beam, water ponding in common area,lift lobby,corridor etc - some of these defects were fixed. I would recomend you to get a building inspector when you got your key. There have been more than 10 times blackout for whole block causing by some faulty device, confirmed not TNB fault. Lift broke down for numerous time too.
Planning - Koi Tropika has 1000 units as well, the club house is too small to accomodate even 10% of the total units, and there is no enough lighting at this area, at nite it is dark. Single entrance/exit with 1-lane each. Imagine if 10% of the total cars in/out during peak hour. Car park, the most sensitive issue in Koi Tropika, salesperson promise additional car park for sale, yet developer admit that there isn’t even enough car park, the ‘good’ thing is the salespersons now still promising to new phases buyer that additional car park for sale, visitor car park located in far secluded area, car wash operator utilise 2 car park lots etc.
Service - Cleanliness of common area can be improved, security service can be improved.
Comment by hahf — January 18, 2007 @ 11:30 am
my god…now im really worried.the agents keep saying good stuff about kinrara and how much better it will be compared to koi tropika,but then again we can only wait and see…thx hahf,its shocking to hear so many defects though
Comment by space^monkey — January 18, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
Hi hahf!!!
Thanks for ur information.I really hope it wont happen in Koi Kinrara,coz Kinrara maintenance and sinking fee is exp then tropical.So, if we have same treat with tropical,that mean we more unlucky then whos buy the tropical. :..(
Comment by meow — January 19, 2007 @ 9:51 am
Did anyone received a letter from developer asking for the payment release issue?
Comment by ray — January 24, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Good news for all Koi Kinrara house holder or house owner. UOB might provide 90%loan margin due to approval status. Infact housing loan is long term investment therefore pick up the rite bank n rite loan is very important. like it or not u have to be with the bank for at least 5yrs. This term call (log in period). choosing a home loan unlike in pasar buy fish or sayur. whichever FRESH come first! pls study the term n condition…. isnt flexible enough, possilbe to dump in more money without notice or approve from bank ???
As a result, IF u wanne know more about housing loan such as what is the repayment every month,what is the current BLR rates…. pls do call me Jack Chong from UOB 012 322 8486 for ur information This project is only cover by SBB,CIMB,HLB,UOB. thank you
Comment by Jack chong (banker) — January 24, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
Good news for all Koi Kinrara house holder or house owner. UOB might provide 90%loan margin due to approval status. Infact housing loan is long term investment therefore pick up the rite bank n rite loan is very important. like it or not u have to be with the bank for at least 5yrs. This term call (log in period). choosing a home loan unlike in pasar buy fish or sayur. whichever FRESH come first! pls study the term n condition…. isnt flexible enough, possilbe to dump in more money without notice or approve from bank ???
As a result, IF u wanne know more about housing loan such as what is the repayment every month,what is the current BLR rates…. pls do call me Jack Chong from UOB 012 322 8486 for ur information This project is only cover by SBB,CIMB,HLB,UOB. thank you
Comment by Jack chong (Banker) 012 344 8486 — January 24, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
Jack, what is UOB offering? What make UOB better than other bank?
Comment by CK — January 26, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
Greeing CK,
- Flexible… OD/Term loan consolidated paid more money, without any upfront notice from the bank. In the same time the more you paid the more u save coz you paid more…
the money u had paid more can withdraw any time when u in need also without any attachment of letter.
Comment by Jack chong (Banker) 012 344 8486 — January 26, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
I call up Koi Kinrara today.
As they mention, the stamping will be delay for 2-3 months.
The reason, they now doing the bridging loan with UOB. To complete all the documentation will need a month. Then only submit for stamping which will take a months. In the mean time, they say the construction will on going.
I also went to the site. Seem like a lot of work have been done compare to the piling ceremony.
Hope this project won’t be delay.
Comment by Jackie — January 26, 2007 @ 11:36 pm
Seem like this developer have many interior problem. The previous project Koi Tropika have so many complain about the defection of interior house, late interest charge, delay stamping for S & P. If want to find out more about Koi Tropika, plz click the below link:
http://www.realestate.net.my/forum/archive/koi-tropika-puchong-68.htm
May i know before that this land Encumbrances to which bank and is this project will goes well according from the management. I got some worries about this developer and the Koi Kinrara project. Got anyone can advise….
Comment by John — January 27, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
Hi,
Please go through this url about Koi Tropika, you will find what i’m taking about:
E:Koi TropikaMalaysia Real Estate View topic - Koi Tropika - Puchong 22.mht
Comment by John — January 27, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
All the condo’s also facing their own problem, anyway heard the koi kinrara adverst on myfm.
Comment by CK — January 28, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
Hi CK,
I heard that advertisement in myfm also.
And I agree with u CK, not only all the Condo, I believe that all the new development in Malaysia also face their own problem.
Comment by Yeoh — January 29, 2007 @ 10:01 am
Dear All,
I went to the show unit with my family and soon to be wife, we like the unit with the ID and the spacious of each room. Just a little more going to place my booking due to budget need to consider whether to get the 2room or 3room suite. The salesman there advise us to get the 2rooms but it is not SUNWAY view.. there is only 2or3 units left on the sunway block.
After reading so many stories regarding the developer and the hidden cost like the sinking fund is not absorb to the mainteance fees it is a little to expensive with petrol and toll hike.. but not our pay…*duh* Please add me into your MSN need to discuss more about getting myself a unit. Not to mention a first time buyer over here… is the RM1k intro fees still stands?
Comment by BenYap — January 30, 2007 @ 2:02 am
Dear All,
Forgot to put my email here so you all can add me to your MSN. benzee_yap@hotmail.com , Well planning to go to the site this coming saturday and make up whether I’m going to get 2 or 3rooms and which views..Please help me out here..Thanks
Comment by BenYap — January 30, 2007 @ 2:09 am
benyap, please do not believe in the ID unit. once u get your bare unit, u will be surprise will all the beams suddenly portruding out of nowhere. please bear in mind that ID unit is on custom build, not exactly to the same of bare unit. ID is to cover your eyes and attract sales. beware!
Comment by hahf — January 30, 2007 @ 10:57 am
Hi Hanf, when and where u saw a ID unit same as after built? haha..do let me know.
Comment by CK — January 30, 2007 @ 11:35 am
so should view actual unit loh….
Comment by Freenight — January 30, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
Hi Benyap, I paid RM1K for the booking.
You should go at night. You would like the Sunway view.
If you are not planning to have a big family, 2 room is fine because the mgmt fee and sinking fund are less too. This will reduce your burden. But I have not seen the demo/actual unit. Do your own judgement.
Comment by Derrick — January 30, 2007 @ 2:22 pm
Hi All,
What is mean by ID unit? Can someone explain it to me?
Thanz.
Comment by John — January 30, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
I heard now Southern Bank got a new loan package. It very attrative one
1st year : 0.00%
2th - 8th year : BLR-1.00%
9th year onwards: BLR-1.10%
but this package is a Home Fixed Package.
Can anyone know the UOB Bank offer the loan margin up to many percent coz last time it only offer up to 80% for this project.
Anyone can advise any information about this two banks. The Koi has bridging loan to UOB Bank.
Comment by John — January 30, 2007 @ 2:31 pm
New loan package for ssb? mine is 90% loan with BLR-0.80 whole tenure. Wanna call the banker up! hehe~ Koi kinrara selling like a hot cake now..the increment of 3k i believe for the advest fee on myfm.
I don’t think there have any bare unit for all the launched projects. If u do need to see the actual unit, wait for 2.5 years and welcome to our unit!
Comment by CK — January 30, 2007 @ 4:37 pm
ID should be interior design…
Comment by CK — January 30, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
Don’t worry all…Yeoh promise to take the night view of sunway this weekend and will upload at http://www.koikinrara.blogspot.com/
Comment by CK — January 30, 2007 @ 4:47 pm
hahf,
Yup, the ID unit is to cover our eyes from the real design the unit. Like what the people says..”First Impression is most important”.
Derrick,
Em..small family is always in my mind..ahaha..came from a small family. Too bad the 2room unit only at KLCC/PJ and Pool View only. Wanted to get the Sunway unit so….eager…I’m afraid with my eagerness..I’ll make wrong decision. Is it confirm the mainteance fees+sinking fund is RM210+ per month for the 3room 1072sqf? There is only left one unit at 14floor..sunway view..Typical chinese don’t like the number but atleast they number it as 13A..aih..headache..
Comment by BenYap — January 31, 2007 @ 4:24 am
Is the blog created by Yeoh? Good job!!!
Comment by Derrick — January 31, 2007 @ 9:46 am
Derrick,
is not created by me lah, is CK! my responsible just take the picture only.
Comment by Yeoh — January 31, 2007 @ 5:35 pm
Hi Ben,
Welcome to join us here, I just add u in my MSN.
Actually diff people diff point of view, in my point of view is, I’m til belive that 2 rooms is not enough, first of all, u & ur spouse is already use 1 room, the other room u use for what? if u only plan for 1 kid, then that’s no problem, but how about 2 kids? While they still young is ok, once ur kids already a teenage, I dont think they like to share room…
Maybe u can say that after 10 or 20 years, u can buy another bigger house, but it will give difficulty in your financial status and increase ur liabilities (it come worst if u cant sell off your old house), unless u very sure that in future u’ll earn a lot! Have a aggresive planning is good, but sometimes we also need to get prepare of bad things happen, like what cantonese always said “yan yao sam sui lok wong” (human have 3 bad time & 6 good time).
That’s just my little opinion.
Comment by Yeoh — January 31, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
Yeoh,
I got your contact in my MSN also. I also think about that to get a bigger unit. Maybe sometime my parent or my future in-law pay me a visit where they stay. Now planning and thinking very hard whether to get the 3rooms or 2rooms. Not to mention planning to get married soon..Ahaha..btw the salesman said that it is 0% interest the first year.. so we don’t need to pay anyhting till next year?
Comment by BenYap — January 31, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
Hi Everyone,
Did you all sign the S&P and loan agreement with the lawyer coz i already sign the offer letter from bank last month and didn’t get any responce fron them until now.
What should I do, can anyone advise me what i should do now?
Comment by John — February 2, 2007 @ 9:40 am
HI John,
I already sign the S&P, now u just wait the S&P to be prepare lah, actually u no need to worry, more late u sign, less interest u need to pay.
May I know what unit u bought? So that I can update u in our comitty.
This is my MSN: elwen_yeoh@hotmail.com, we always chat through MSN. We just come out to meet at previous Wed nite, next time welcome u to join us!
Comment by Yeoh — February 2, 2007 @ 2:22 pm
Hi Ben,
At first year, u only need to pay the interest. What they said 0% interest in 1st year actually not helping much. For the first twelve months, everymonths actualy u no need to pay more than hundred for interest after the developer withdraw the money from bank. So the 0% interest maybe only help u to save few hundred. But anyway, it’s til better then nothing…
If you wan to compare which home loan is better, you need to calculate total how much interest you pay to each bank.
Comment by Yeoh — February 2, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
just wait only. refer to 346 for the answer, john.
Comment by CK — February 2, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
Thanks Yeoh & CK for you infor. Actually my Unit is A12-08. Now I wait for the UOB package. Since, I didn’t done any documentation with the lawyer. so, I still have a change to choose the better package.
Comment by John — February 3, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
Hi everybody,
I had upload some site photo in my blog, and I’ll keep update monthly, feel free to surf.
http://elwen_yeoh.blogs.friendster.com/photos/koi_kinrara/
Comment by Yeoh — February 3, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
A-22-08} Edwin
A-21-11} CK
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-19-08} Derrick
A-17-11} Cat
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
B-18-12) Jackie
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-3A-02} teesk
Seem like long time never have new purchaser… or the new purchaser never online… :-p
Comment by Yeoh — February 3, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
hi all, sry no login 4 long time coz bz on koi tropika bolk c turn key,
s&p ready for stamping and now in progress,the brigding loan from uob settle. good news.
hi ben,
if u ask me to choose from 2 or 3 room, i wil choose 3 room coz 3 room can get a better rental or subsales value
:2 rooms single ppl, not for family size, smaller, and low on rental coz low in demand same goes for subsales value. no good for investment and also own use.3 room unitcan become 2 room and 1 store room but 2 room unit cant.loan instalment different very little about rm 100.
so 3 room is the best.
choose block A also better: nice view, more choice,if can choose size 1156sqft with balcony
all this is only my opinion final choice is from u, discuss with family member and have a visit at the site.
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff — February 4, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
hi, i just bk frm koi showroom. eemmhh not bad la. bad y they giving 100%loan and also RM2888 ang pow. any1 can help me. b’couse i intrested 2 buy over thr. if u wan get RM1k pls inform me. we can b a partner. thks.
Comment by palani — February 5, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
SKwan,
Ya, I know about the resale value & the rental value for the 2room will be a little lower compare to the 3rooms. I’ve been to the show unit but planning to go again and have a proper view becuase that day I went was around 6pm and your colleague was about living.. so never really look properly. I heard the “Sunway” view is totally sold out rite? Pls update me about this.
Yeoh,
Nice night scene there you snap..It makes me more to purchase the sunway view. My dad also say very nice.
Comment by BenYap — February 5, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
Palani, I can be your’s partner~
My unit is A-21-08
Comment by Kenny — February 6, 2007 @ 10:36 am
Anyway, RM2888 angpow given to you no good kah? Can share with me also de if you think that is bad. hehehe…
feel free to add my msn kenny_njc@hotmail.com
We actually have a group in msn, usually we will discuss in msn. Any question just ask us, we are willing to help!!
Comment by Kenny — February 6, 2007 @ 10:41 am
Long time no post any command at here already,haha…
RM2888 le, Palani… if u not interest with this ang pao then u can give me de o… hahaha
Comment by meow — February 6, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
Hi everybody,
Just now I called SK Wan, so he confirm already 3/3 got a ceremony at site wor! Hehe, so this time v really can meet up already. Since CK, Kenny, Meow & Me already come out to meet, so now it’s the chance v can meet for others lah!!
Comment by Yeoh — February 6, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
Why yeoh like so much to see other buyer’s?
Comment by CK — February 6, 2007 @ 5:05 pm
Haha, future neighbour ma…
Actually it’s good to know each other! ;-p
Comment by Yeoh — February 6, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
Hi,Yeoh why got so many ceremony?last time 7 Jan 07 already have piling ceremony, this time is what ceremony?
thank you.
Comment by tiger — February 12, 2007 @ 7:27 am
Hi All:
I got my loan and purchase agreement stamped.Ready to settle the diferential sum..I think this project will going faster now (cos the koi tropica project is nearly at final stage)
Comment by Anson — February 12, 2007 @ 2:26 pm
Will sign my loan after the A&Q session on 3/3.
Comment by CK — February 12, 2007 @ 4:26 pm
Hi Tiger,
I dont know y the developer organize another ceremony again, also dont know what is this ceremony for… feel like wasting money… but anyway, this is their marketing strategy, we cant do anythings also. We just hope the property will complete ontime.
Comment by Yeoh — February 12, 2007 @ 10:47 pm
so which is the best loan package so far?need help…tq
Comment by space^monkey — February 13, 2007 @ 10:24 am
so which is the best loan package so far?need some tips..tq
Comment by space^monkey — February 13, 2007 @ 10:25 am
hi time is the chap goh mei celebration.i already send invitation to all buyer of koi kinrara by mail on 16 feb 06.u all will receive it in this few day
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff — February 18, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
Hi all, so long time i dint login this forum.quite busy at the moment. I have been read thru all the commend which posted here.Thanks for share to all buyer and the future buyer.I dint get any invitation on 3 March 2007. I was missed out 7 Jan Opening Ceremony.so i wont miss out this time…
I’m the buyer of B-08-08.
S&P was signed since Jan 07. everything work fine and now just wait for the completion. This is my 1st own property.
you may contact me thru MSN ( tkimfui@hotmail.com )
cheerssss.. my neighbour and future neighbour …
Comment by Alfred — February 21, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
Hi all, so long time i dint login this forum.quite busy at the moment. I have been read thru all the commend which posted here.Thanks for share to all buyer and the future buyer.I dint get any invitation on 3 March 2007. I was missed out 7 Jan Opening Ceremony.so i wont miss out this time…
I’m the buyer of B-08-08.
S&P was signed since Jan 07. everything work fine and now just wait for the completion. This is my 1st own property.
you may contact me thru MSN ( tkimfui@hotmail.com )
cheerssss.. my neighbour and future neighbour …
Comment by Alfred — February 21, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
Hello there,
Long time over here also never posted in here, well now still thinking whether to get a unit at KOI..waiting my fiance to get a car first then budget abit.. is the function only for buyers only?
Comment by BenYap — February 22, 2007 @ 8:20 am
hie all… is been sometime since i drop by to read this forum. and by the look of it.. i can see it has increased in numbers. i posted my comment b4 i bought the place.
Posting : 10& 18
I did not know that we actually have a virtual community here already even before the place is ready.
my unit number is B-21-06
After reading some of the postings.. i feel that the current promotions and loans given are out are better.
I already have my loan approved last year.so cant do much.
Hey S.K Wan … The KL view can see KLCC anot?
cheers. Happy CNY 2007!!
Comment by ken — February 26, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
A-22-08} Edwin
A-21-11} CK
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-19-08} Derrick
A-17-11} Cat
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
B-21-06} Ken
B-18-12) Jackie
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-3A-02} teesk
Hi Ken, welcome to join us here!! Feel great that u let us know ur unit, hehe!!
So, hope to see u all at 3/3/07!!
Happy Chinese New Year!!
Comment by Yeoh — February 26, 2007 @ 9:11 pm
3/3/07 really have another event at site or?
Well, I dint get any invitation at all..
Please update me…
TQ
Comment by Alfred — February 27, 2007 @ 9:14 am
Hi,Happy CNY!!! i already receive mail from Koi…. this 3/3 got many program le… hehe!!Dun knw got lucky draw or big big de ang pao or not, wahaha !!! oklah .. hope to see u all at 3/3 …
Comment by meow — February 27, 2007 @ 10:44 am
what is the purpose behind all these events?
Comment by CK — February 27, 2007 @ 11:39 am
‘chap goh meh’ mah!!
Comment by Freenight — February 27, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
well, thanks Yeoh.
Chap Goh Meh event is for existing buyers as well as potential buyers to visit their sales office.
if got lucky draw and if you guys are free then better go.
I got the rice cooker the other during the piling ceremony.
but unfortunately i wont be able to join you guys coz i need to go somewhere.
Comment by ken — February 27, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
Harlow guys !! happy CNY (still can wish you guys). I am new buyer of unit B-18-05.
i have used up almost half day to finish up all the comments posted here, phew ~
so guys, confirm tomorrow night will have function? but what time?
my msn id: yefoong@hotmail.com
Comment by desmond chin — March 2, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
guys, regarding the high sinking fund, we really can’t do anything on that? if we can’t actually own the management right, then is that mean we will have to pay for so many years with the high sinking fund ?????!! Is it really really worth for that?
I am not sure but that seems to be one of my worry, because for long term, that is not a small amount.
let say we pay rm250 each month, stay for 20 years, then will be 250 x 12 x 20 = 1200k … phew ~
Comment by desmond chin — March 2, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
just to update the list
A-22-08} Edwin
A-21-11} CK
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-19-08} Derrick
A-17-11} Cat
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
B-21-06} Ken
B-18-12) Jackie
B-18-05} Desmond
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-3A-02} teesk
Cheers~
Comment by desmond chin — March 2, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
wow…you all calculate so long and far oh… 20years later will u get the same pay as now? wont right? that time RM250 just a small amount is ur income X10 to ur current income. or maybe after 20years you might be no longer stay there,right?
Comment by Alfred — March 7, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
There is some wrong calculation here..
If you pay RM250 every Month for 20years.
The total amount = RM250.00 x 12 Month x 20 Years
= RM60,000.00
Comment by Jackie — March 7, 2007 @ 10:47 pm
Hi Alfred,
Your point is correct…but don’t forget that the fee will increase also ;-p
Comment by CK — March 8, 2007 @ 10:43 am
hie all.
how was the CNY Chap Goh Meh event?
did you guys meet up?
well regarding the sinking fund… yes the first claculation is wrong, it should be RM60K if you gonna stay there for 20 yrs.
but it might be correct also theoractically, coz they might increase the amount as time goes by.
well this is the not so nice “view” you get by staying in a high rise condo.
and i thought the maintenance fee should be fixed at RM0.15 per sq ft. so you should calculate it based on ur unit size times RM0.15 = RM monthly maintenance fee
Comment by ken — March 8, 2007 @ 11:08 am
another question for you guys. have ya all actually received your S&P agreement from the lawyers yet??
just wanna check with you guys. I have signed mine last year, but have not got anything back yet.
Comment by ken — March 8, 2007 @ 11:09 am
Hi Ken,i already receive my S & P agreement and already stamping early Feb, mayb Ken u can call the Developer. i no went to the celebration on 3/3/07. Now site contrustion stage still piling?
Comment by tiger — March 8, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
Thanks Tiger. So you got yours liow ….at the end of the year i went to their sales office, then they said it will be ready soon. but until now i have not heard from them.
maybe will go bug them again.
Comment by ken — March 9, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
All the S&P sign last year are stamp on early February 2007.
Your lawyer (which provide by developer) won’t call you, You need to call them and arrange to collect the document.
Comment by Jackie — March 9, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
Hi all,
Just do a quick check with you all, any one know about the latest launch of Koi Kinrara? they are offering one free unit of air cond + 29″ TV + RM2,888 cash in return upon loan approval by end of March 2007.
According to the sales man, previous launch was given away Foot Massage Machine, Washing machine with Dryer, Holiday package for 2 person woth RM1,000.00 and holiday allowance RM1,000.00…….
Seen like every time they are doing “special promotion”.
HOW COME????
Comment by girl girl — March 11, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
Hi girl girl, if not mistaken, this is the 3rd time they gave diff package. I get the package like F.M, Washing machine etc’s.
Changing I guess is becoz of some of the buyer like me, would like to turn the package into cash term.
So RM2,888 cash might be a good choice lor… hehe
Anyway, feel free to join us through msn as our virtual commity of kinrara here.
add me lar, kenny_njc@hotmail.com
Comment by kenny — March 12, 2007 @ 10:05 am
Hi, All of u receive letter from developer regarding payment of this project (until stage 2b)?Payment must done before 2 week from now, if no pay will charge 10% interest!!!is developer will sent letter to bank inform them to release the loan?is anything i should follow?
Comment by tiger — March 16, 2007 @ 7:17 am
yes i also got the letter. i think they will settle it. the letter is just a copy to us stating the progress of claim.
i think the developer will arrange with your respective bank on the release for payments if your bank loan is approved.
well i think that should be the case.
Comment by ken — March 16, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
hi all ,long time no log in ohhhhh……
yah billing has started, so for u those who no loan pls apply fast if not, u get LATE INTEREST CHARGE.THAT no good news for u.
most of u guys now on msn, so can u guys give me your account name, i also wanna join….hehehe
mine is keong_wan@hotmail.com
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff — March 22, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
Hi S K Wan, i received letter regarding the different sum. The letter writing i still need pay RM2500. As i know the RM2000 from early bird discount and RM500 from down payment.Last time I already call u company to corfirm is direct reduce, u admin people say yes direct reduce so i no need pay the Rm 2500, now why u company still sending letter chasing me the RM 2500? WAN i need u confirm with me so i no need get LATE INTEREST CHARGE!
About the loan, my loan bank now still no receive letter from u company and how to release money!Few day ago i call u company admin many buyer got same problem (release money)and will postpone the due date,they also say will discuss with lawyer about this problem!S K WAN can u check with me about this problem?
ALL BUYER u all facing release money problem,please sent u opinion and share with us!!!
Comment by tiger — March 23, 2007 @ 7:38 am
Hi all, I am Lok, from Rawang. working in Bandar Puteri Puchong, looking for the property around. now comparing Aseana Puteri and Koi Kinrara. Anyone can advice on the 2 property??? Thanks.
Comment by Lok — March 23, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
come to visit Desa Impiana at Taman Puchong Prima..
good design!!:)..
Comment by Freenight — March 24, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
lok, avoid koi tropika, koi kinrara or any property under “Masteron Group” at all cost!!!
u will regret.
Comment by desmondha — March 26, 2007 @ 10:39 am
desmond, why said so??
haha..actually my friend also kena at koi tropical..
Comment by Freenight — March 26, 2007 @ 2:40 pm
desmond, why said so??
haha..actually my friend also kena at koi tropical..
Comment by Freenight — March 26, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
but they said will change new contractor..don’t know true or not..
Comment by Freenight — March 26, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
My friends who purchase Koi Tropical, which just complete recently (Phase 2)is satisfy with the interior work and electrical and water. I also pay a visit to his apartment, it look ok.
According to the Koi Office, they face problem with KOI Tropical Phase 1 contractor which they have change it.
Every property also face problem, better to visit the actual unit. Like what i did.
Comment by Jackie — March 26, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
Hi everybody, long time dint post here! Maybe now all of us using MSN already! haha!
Again, this is my MSN, for those whose havent join us, please add me in ya!
elwen_yeoh@hotmail.com
Comment by Yeoh — March 27, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
koi tropika phase 2 is better, and block c is already complete with cf.
if u need to move in fast go 4 block c.
i can bring u to c the unit that u wanna buy, i will get the key, c 1st the unit if not like it then dont buy.
its not the showroom but the actual unit that u buying.
workmanship for koi tropika block c is nice.even better then my unit that i buy from sunway group.
to all koi kinrara buyer
i will ask elsie regarding this matter on rm2000 thing and the loan drawdown.
i will get back to u all tomorow
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff — March 27, 2007 @ 6:17 pm
Wan,
I just wonder why KOI Kinrara is not in the list for IProperty.com.my?
Comment by Jackie — March 27, 2007 @ 9:42 pm
y must koi kinrara in that website?
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff — March 29, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
It will be more publicity since the have a lot of visitors and readers.
As I know KOI Legian is in.
Comment by Jackie — March 31, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
Hi,
Sorry for long time not visit this forum. Have anyone the S&P has stamped and documentation returned.
I have not check done any documentation with the lawyer, r the developer will charge the late interest fees.
Comment by John — April 1, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
hi jackie
koi kinrara is in iproperty.com
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff — April 5, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
hi every1,
any1 looking for job, i finding sales staff,
if u got friend wanna work, pls give me a call,
no exp needed.female is better
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff — April 6, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
Hi,
I am an interested buyer of Koi Kinrara, but i am concern on the factory nearby and the view as well.
Can anyone advise which floor onwards should i be getting to get a good view and even on future developtment?
Sk.wan, would appreciate if you could advise me if the 1072sf is still available in block A.
Thanks
Comment by pzai — April 9, 2007 @ 7:32 am
hie…i dont know bout you guys,but the sales people in koi mentioned that several banks have reached the quota and cannot process loan,but when I asked the bank officers,they claim that Maseron itself has some internal problems,besides that they have no sufficeint budget for the project..they require the banks to release full funds and not progress payment,thats why these banks not servicing the project…did anyone do any detail study on the developer?very curious…
Comment by space^monkey — April 9, 2007 @ 1:01 pm
what i can say is, u buy u regret. pray hard if u buy! i have no eye see.
Comment by desmondha — April 10, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
I make a call to Southern Bank (Now is CIMB), according to them everything is ok. Loan approval is subject to personal ability. Then none of the contractor able to withdraw full amount, this is protected by bank negara.
Comment by Jackie — April 10, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
desmondha,
Did you purchase any property from this developer?
It seem like you have bad feeling with them.
Comment by Jackie — April 10, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
Desmondha,
yeah, if you really have any bad experience with this developer, just tell us. It’s no use if just only telling this developer is very bad without any real case.
Comment by Yeoh — April 11, 2007 @ 9:07 am
yeoh, i am koi tropika buyer. needless to say the developer is blood sucker! beware, i have got cheated, i dont want other to be same fate like me. u have bought, so pray hard! those that havent, pls stay away from Masteron.
Comment by desmondha — April 11, 2007 @ 10:31 am
desmond,
I think u must purchase the block A or B right?
Comment by Yeoh — April 11, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
Desmond,
If you dont mind, can you post out all the problem that you faced? I think all of us would like to hear ur story.
Comment by Yeoh — April 11, 2007 @ 5:58 pm
yeoh u r right,
if he got any problem just say,coz we all wanna know about it and be more clever, let share……………
do u think that uobbank will approved any loan to any company that has financial problem? now days its hard to get loan approved even for 170k, what about millions?
space monkey,
to bank officer u been asking do he noe that u all buy on progressive paymnet as in the spa, how will the developer or lawyer be so stupid to ask for full payment? and wat is spa are for if we can ask 4 full paymnet so wat bank officer talking is crap. his knowedge is very low so dont believe him as he dont noe wat he is talking about.
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff — April 11, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
SK Wan..i just wanna know when will Koi kinrara completed? Yeoh said it will completed on 2010 feb! Unacceptable!
Comment by CK — April 12, 2007 @ 5:48 pm
no ler,
cant b 2010…that way too long
its 2009 mid
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff — April 12, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
Ai… CK…
I said the stamping date of my S&P is 2nd Feb 2007, then the “official” completion date is 2nd Feb 2010 lah… OMG…
Comment by Yeoh — April 12, 2007 @ 10:21 pm
haha..ck blur blur one…
go n buy complete property or almost complete property..
then dun need to wait so long loh…
Comment by Freenight — April 12, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
Hi everybody,
we are planning to have Spiderman 3 at 1st May, whose wanna join?
Got CK, Meow, Kenny, Desmond, SK Wan and some others which havent confirm yet.
For those whose interest, please MSN us lah.
elwen_yeoh@hotmail.com
Comment by Yeoh — April 13, 2007 @ 11:21 am
sk wan…the reason i say this is because i called the banks that the sales people said have reached their quota,i didnt understand the meaning,the bank officers checked and mentioned due to the problems arised with the developers,these banks are afraid to finance and they lied bout the over quota thing.Its a method of them brushing off problematic developers..any bankers online?this is the thing which worries me…and i work in a factory…illegal or not,it can take years to demolish or relocate…what is the progress on the so called illegal factory nearby,its emmision is hazardous..appreciate answers for the sales people
Comment by space^monkey — April 13, 2007 @ 12:21 pm
sk wan…the reason i say this is because i called the banks that the sales people said have reached their quota,i didnt understand the meaning,the bank officers checked and mentioned due to the problems arised with the developers,these banks are afraid to finance and they lied bout the over quota thing.Its a method of them brushing off problematic developers..any bankers online?this is the thing which worries me…and i work in a factory…illegal or not,it can take years to demolish or relocate…what is the progress on the so called illegal factory nearby,its emmision is hazardous..appreciate answers for the sales people
Comment by space^monkey — April 13, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
space monkey,
which bank are you refer to?
Comment by Yeoh — April 13, 2007 @ 1:12 pm
i understand that there is a illegal factory,
its normal for them not wanted to be relocated coz they will ask for money,same for squarters. this may take some time.
u say banker lie n u stiill believe him…
every bank will set a total loan credit limit to be borrow by borrower to finance their property for example 50million for a particular project, when its quota is finish borrow to buyer it have to reapply for more total loan amount(new quota).mayb he only lazy to reapply coz need a lot of paperwork.especially 1 case………he will only wait till other ppl apply when approved he will just continue reapply for customer, easy job
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff — April 13, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
Yeoh,
STill too long…kuchai avenue selling fast…thinking…may be should buy completed property.
FreeXX,
Hey, seem like impiana resident like koi kinrara alot..come and purchase 1 unit la!
Comment by CK — April 15, 2007 @ 1:44 am
CK,
Kuchai Avenue sure selling fast lah, quite beautiful design, cheap and some more got Ah B coming wor…
By the way, I dont like that location, too jam. Puchong better, got IOI lah, Tesco lah, Giant lah, all the bank lah and etc… hehe!
Comment by Yeoh — April 16, 2007 @ 9:27 am
ck,
who said i like koi kinrara leh…hehe
i wan u to buy impiana…
then i got 1k loh…
Comment by Freenight — April 16, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
HI Freenight,
Is it mean that u already purchase Impiana Height?
Be frank, before I get to known Koi Kinrara, I already plan to purchase Impiana! The outlook is very nice, interior design also in good quality! I like their large window very much! Cheaper than koi kinrara some more. And I have 2 friends purchase there. Haha!
But there’s 2 things that wondering me. The entrance to Puchong Perdana from LDP is very jam, and need to pass through a Malay kampung before reach Impiana; unless we make an entrance from the other site, but it’s a bit far…
The second things is their club house is small but residence density is high, my friends told me everytime they wan to go to gim but always full house, some more the pool also full of people make them no mood to swim… another friend her unit is quite far away from the club house, they already lazy to walk to club house… ai… every condo have their good and bad… some time difficult to choose also… Koi Kinrara’s bad, I no need to mention here lah… everybody known…
Anyway, I already purchase, talk so much also no use. Haha!!
Comment by Yeoh — April 17, 2007 @ 10:38 am
Kuchai Avenue also able to get 100% loan if ur financial is strong!
Comment by None — April 17, 2007 @ 12:15 pm
http://koikinrara.blogspot.com/
Comment by CK — April 17, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
club hse always full?? last time went to gim, no ppl one..
but now seldom go there..lazy..haha
residence density not so high..1 blk only 90 hse..
c what u want..got bad n good one..
i only spend 144k to get a condo like Desa Impiana..i think worth.. 1st thing is good Quality n Design..first priority for me..
Comment by Freenight — April 17, 2007 @ 1:23 pm
But there’s one things that you never seen in the broucher of Koi Kinrara, that’s we have a good neighbourhood here!! haha!
Agree or not?
:-p
Comment by Yeoh — April 17, 2007 @ 5:22 pm
Still too early to compare between Koi Kinrara with Desa Impiana. Wait another 2 years…we will get the answer
Comment by CK — April 17, 2007 @ 5:45 pm
hi everyone.. come and join spiderman 3 ar.. Actually before koi kinrara .. i already view kuchai avenua, aseana, bayu, desa impiana…etc..
So,
kuchai avenue
prod
cheap(RM17X,XXX), nice design…
cond
9xxsf only, security too ma fan, swimming pool too far.
Aseana
too expensive…
Desa Impiana
Cheap, somemore 1068sf… but toilet too small, swimming too small.. block c,d… is far from swimming pool.
point i choose Koi Kinrara
-toilet is big
-2 swimming pool
-alot of facility
-1072sf
-very near jasco, tesco… and LRT(future)
Comment by meow — April 17, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
Spider 3…try not to make it on 29/4 & 30/4, i’ll be away at penang!!hehe!
But i like kuchai avenue security system, can prevent meow come to my floor.LOL~ wireless some more…
Check out the latest update at site, seem like they’re going to build the basement soon. Also good news for block B buyers. Currently they’re removing the rock that blocked PJ view…remove how much i have no idea..good luck. Hehe
Comment by CK — April 17, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
The Spiderman 3 I’ll make it on 1/5, is that ok?
Comment by Yeoh — April 17, 2007 @ 6:52 pm
Hi everybody,
Latest news from the site, yesterday I went to the site. I saw there’s a lot of iron web already, very soon, we’ll able to see the landscape lah! hehe!
And 2 weeks ago, CK also went to the site, as he mentioned, there’s also have some wood. Also the developer seem like moving the small hill, look like it’s a good news for KL View residents.
Comment by Yeoh — April 22, 2007 @ 12:26 pm
I went to the site today also, even on sunday they are doing the constuction work. Hopefully they can complete at Mid 2009.
I saw on Board, our Contractor for this project is Kenneison. If you interested, you can go to www.kenneison.com.my to look at their profile.
Comment by Jackie — April 22, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
Hi Jackie,
Yeah, nowaday they’re so aggressive! Haha!
I visit the Kenneison website also, seem professional. By the way, I would like to check their previous project, but cant found it…
And 1 more thing, this weekend I gotta reserve the tickets for Spiderman 3, for those whose interest, please e-mail to me.
elwen_yeoh@hotmail.com
or
yeohchitmun@gmail.com
Comment by Yeoh — April 23, 2007 @ 8:37 am
People… I am trying to keep my cool after spending more than 40 minutes reading almost each and every post carefully. I am not new here for your info. It’s just that I have not checked back here for some time now. My first post was back at post 41 when this was still relatively new.
Now, allow me make some clarification here. Both hahf and desmondha is the same person. Both he and me are Koi Tropika buyers. I am standing behind him and with many other Koi Tropika residents and owners to support him all the way and back him up for each word he said.
Koi Tropika is FILLED WITH PROBLEMS! Refer to post 338 where Desmond mentioned bad workmanship and other flaws and defects, it’s as real as you wish to believe. I have loads of pictures to support my statement, with every single possible details you MAY NOT EVEN THINK if. Please register at the official Koi Tropika forum to view those pictures and read discussions among members about their problems with the management, the developer and see the evidence for yourself.
The URL for the forum is at http://koitropika.16.forumer.com
Trust me people. Many Koi Tropika residents have been real patient with the developer, Masteron and the building management of Koi Tropika. We were given tonnes of blank promises and countless excuses till date. All those power failure, cleaniness issues, ultimately poor security issues are ALL as TRUE AS IT GETS! There are all facts and evidence in both logs and pictures to back my statement up. If you feel that I am only venting my tantrum and my anger here just because I don’t like Masteron, why not check out the Koi Tropika forum to take a look yourself and what other residents have to say?
All those blank promises by their sales person, you know what’s Masteron excuse for that?
Quote from Mr O.P. Lee, the Managing Director of Masteron…
“Ermm… I don’t know any of those. We have never promise extra carparks. The plans are approved based on 1:1 ratio. 1 unit, 1 car park. There are no extra parkings for sale. I don’t know what those sales person told you or promised you but I can assure you, no. Anyway, I think those sales person are not longer here, are they?”
Am I being real impulsive and bad-mouthing Masteron, you be the judge, my fellow smart friends. Please, as advised by Desmond, DO NOT REPEAT our mistakes for believing in Masteron, their sales person, their management, and EVEN their G.M.’s sweet talk plus blank promises. It’s a commitment for many years to come. Think twice and think carefully.
To those whom have booked or bought any other recent properties by Masteron (Koi Kinrara, Koi Legian and Koi Tropika Block E - Semi-D in the Sky), good luck.I hope you won’t be facing the same issues as we did, and am still facing! Please check the Koi Tropika forum for more hard, solid picture evidence. You will be speechless…
Comment by andromedia — April 26, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
By the way, since the URL given is not clickable, alternatively, all of you can click on my nick and that should redirect you to the Koi Tropika forum. Please spend some of your time there to read up the postings before you decide your next course of actions… good luck folks…
Comment by andromedia — April 26, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
Hi Andromedia,
I have read the Koi Tropika forum.
I agree with you that Koi Tropika Block A & B workmanship is not that nice. But Block C is ok, I have seen it myself.
For Car park, KOI Kinrara will not have that issue, according to the draft drawing. It should have around 2000 carpark. 3.5 story Car Park for Block A & B and 4 story car park for Block C & D. Total Car Park build Up area is around 280,000sqf and normal car park is around 130sqf.
Did you stay in apartment before? I’m current stay in an apartment at puchong by IOI. I face all those problem you mention in Koi Tropika, power blackout, cleaniness, security even the mobile car wash service. Most apartment have the same things.
Even the Ken Damansara or Casa Damansara (both around 300k per unit)at PJ face the same issue, they are actually paying more than we did.
Then Kota Kemunting terrace house paying RM140 per month just for security without facilities. It still have thief break in issue.
Just like you buy a BMW or Benz, does not mean it won’t break down.
Comment by Jackie — April 27, 2007 @ 12:20 am
Everyone must be more careful when sign the S&P and others contract, get a written letter not by words.
Check on everything, when it satisfy you, then only purchase. You can ask them to show you architect drawing, document and etc.
If after build, check properly before you sign and took the keys. Ask then to fix things if things are not right then only sign.
if issue occur after that, form a owners communitiy and fight for yours right.
Comment by Jackie — April 27, 2007 @ 12:32 am
Kenneison is somehow, related to Masteron. That’s how they actualyl got the Koi Kinrara project. Don’t believe blindly on things you see. Things can be deceiving.
If you want to see Kenneison Brother’s wonderful and graceful workmanship, please do pay me a visit at Koi Tropika, and I shall be MORE THAN PLEASED to show you how their work looks like… with not 1, not 2 but all the units you ever want view till you believe!
Comment by andromedia — April 27, 2007 @ 9:49 am
Yes, i agreed andro said. I am free of charges for koi tropical 1 days trip. Finally, you will know how unhealthy whole development is, including Blk A, B & C.
Comment by 小道 — April 27, 2007 @ 11:33 am
If you follow sales person for koi trip, you will be happy to see all good thing.
If you follow me for koi trip, you will be shocked to see all bad thing.
Just list down your name here, we are willing to arrange a time, a visitor group, to visit koi tropical.
Comment by 小道 — April 27, 2007 @ 11:43 am
http://aiswan.blogspot.com/2007/03/koi-tropika.html
I am sure the person who posted this is in here. If you are reading this, please join us at the Koi Tropika Community Board and support us there…
Comment by andromedia — April 27, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
Yes, totally agreed with what have commented by Koi Tropika residents. I’m one of Koi Tropika buyers and I’m one of the victims under their useless security and poor management. Can u imagine few houses got broke at the same time (day time summore)and on the same day? And these cases is not the 1st case happened in Koi Tropika and I do not know how many cases have been covered up by the management. These cases happened in Feb but until today no explaination from the management yet. Not only this, the management are trying to cover up the truth and they telling others that the reason why the houses got broke in is because we did not lock our house properly! OMG… We locked with few padlock and the thief broke in by cutting off the grill and this is wat they sed not locked properly? So funny… they are not trying to improve their services but give excuse n blame that is the resident fault. If i got 2nd chance, i wont buy the property under MASTERON (all bullshit) anymore! I really regret now. Anyhow, hope this not happened to Koi Kinrara but I doubt it.
Dear SK Wan,
I bought this unit from u, and u did promise that we can bought a 2nd carpark (first come first serve) and I still keep the order form with ur handwriting stated that we needs a 2nd carpark. Can u explain why we do not have extra carpark available now (according to ur boss)? This is one of the reason i consider to buy this unit or else i wont have made the booking. Got cheated!
Comment by SS — April 27, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
To those intersting in Masteron properties,
I’m very agreed what desmondha said that “developer is blood sucker!”, “i have got cheated, i dont
want other to be same fate like me”, and “pls stay away from Masteron”!
I am one of “victim” from Koi Tropika buyer, please read what happen I stay at Koi Tropika along half
year.
1st case — Being threaten by one of the Security Guard.
Dear Residents,
I would like to share my experience with u all on this issue. Yesterday (2/10) evening around 6p.m, my
sisters, my auntie and my dad came to Koi and visit me. When my sister enter to the security guard
house, she been asked to park her car 1st and get the visitor pass. Then the gate is opened. So, my
sister drove her car and park it in the block B car park as the security guard didn’t mention where
she should park the car. She have been to Koi few weeks back in helping me on moving house therefore
she park the car as where she park that day. Once she park the car, my dad went down and waiting my
sister in the lift area. B4 my sister came down from the car to get the visitor pass from the security
guard, one of the security guard came over and started to scold my sister without explained anything
in the first place. He was scolding them because they not getting the visitor pass. He raised his hand
and act like wanted to hit them (remember this guy is not wearing security uniform at that time). My
sister was very scared and calls me to come down. This guy stop scolding only when he saw my dad came
over from the lift area. When I came down, I went to the security house with my wife and we wanted
this security guard to explain on the incident happened just now as his attitude is very rude. He
asked us to complain if not satisfied with his attitude. So, my wife took down his name and IC number.
He mentioned that no use for us to complain as he will win (menang) no matter how. He claimed that he
is the security guard (but he not wearing security uniform when he having this conversation with us)
and he controls everything over here, even if he used the security stick to hit us, he is not guilty
as well. He threatens us that if him know that we do not have access card, he will take action and
beware of our cars. My wife was so angry that time and direct show him hers access card and this time
he tried to take something (security stick) and hit my wife. Luckily we are standing around 2 feet
away from him when we had this conversation. I can’t believe this wording and action is come from the
security guard who suppose to protect us but now is threatening our life. This is so scary. I have
called up Mr Ragu and informed him on this right after this incident.
http://koitropika.16.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=114&sid=98175e4edf9c7d99c3a00a221425336f
I had complaint to Mr Ragu, but after few days the answers i get from Mr Ragu is he already fired the
GILA guard and he also can not do anything bcoz this is the CHEAPEST security company they can employ!
The problem is management employ a secuirty company to protect resident’s safety not comsider the
cost! This is 1st time i dissapointed to Masteron management, the luckiest my family members are safe
and without any injured, but this really really hurt my family members’ impression and relationship!
2nd cases — Security at Koi Tropika - Things You Didn’t Know…
Some of you might be shocked to hear this, but it’s the truth and I think all Koi Tropika residents
and owners deserved to know…
On the 9th of January 2007, a Tuesday at around 2+ in the afternoon, a thief was caught at Block A. He
was spotted by a maintenance staff whom informed the management and the security guards on duty via
his walkie talkie. With a full team of people, both gates at the staircase’s exit wa locked, leaving
the lifts as the only way in, and out. Mr Ragu lead a team of people, sweeping each and every floor,
all possible hide-outs to nab the thief. Finally, he was arrested hiding beneath the ground floor’s
staircase, covering himself with some newspaper, hoping to go unnoticed. Upon being apprehended, the
thief claims he was visiting someone. Now, here’s the interesting part. He was spotted at the top
floor, accessing the lift chamber area with keys, which is only available to the guards and the
management. How did he do that? Well, he was recognised as one of the ex-security guard at Koi
Tropika! No, the story didn’t end there. Mr Ragu instructed the guards on duty to send him to the
police station and bring him back the report. Isn’t him, the maintenance manager supposed to lodge a
report?
Trust me. I am really angry with this! He really lacks of sense of responsibility. Besides that, what
from the past meeting was done? All the blank promises… it’s all just talking and no actions!
When that incident took place, more residents came forward with informations that there were actually
more than break-ins than we thought we knew. Some Block B residents came to tell stories about their
unit being broken into before and some about their neighbour’s unit. This usually take place where the
unit is located right next to an empty unit, where the thief will usually gain access to first, before
climbing over to the next unit, which is occupied and flee with the valuables inside. So, tell me, is
Koi Tropika really safe? Is 4 security guards on duty at any given time, and so called patrols on each
work really works? I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT!
Just to prove my point and to show all of you why am I so pissed… here’s 2 extra additional
information which NO ONE from the MANAGEMENT will tell you.
1. The mini-market located opposite the management office was broken into and the thief managed to
cart away some valuable items, such as cash, cigrattes and Milos. They gained access from the top,
cutting open a hole on it’s ceiling.
2. The washroom located right next to the swimming pool. A piece of advice for all ladies, and guys…
DO NOT SHOWER IN IT! Take a look up it’s ceiling. My source of information told me that ANYBODY who is
able to climb up to it’s roof top via any side of the single storey structure will be able to peep
through gaps and sees everything inside, which includes every single cubicle in the wash room. Believe
it or not, it’s up to you. I believe my source. I knew the person who has been up there before (work
related reasons).
All this thing we have feedback to management office but they din announce and put the notice it to
inform to all resident, let residents prevent the same case happen — since the guard is useless.
Depend on guard protect us better know how to protect our ownself!
JUst because this, indirectly I am be the 2nd “victim” in “broken in house case”.
“Finally” and unluckily is my turn. 2 units were broken into ON 2nd Feb 2007, between 11am and 5pm…
both units were located in 7th and 8th floor of Block B
What can i do? I called Ragu and security again!~~~ They ask me call police make the report 1st, OK,
Well! This is the normal procedure, I take 2 hours todo that! Police came to my house took the photo ,
check the dump spring and do some inquiry. Finally i getted a police report. ( Later I will post it to
Koitropika.16forumer.com) After i settle all this thing, one of security leader came to my house take
photo by mobile phone th i ask them what can the guard do for me? I get a suck reply, that is they can
not do anything and ask me be careful next time! OK, i keep my angry because Ragu promise me that he
will meet me at next day morning.
Next day, Ragu and his GM ( Mr.Lee ) came to Koi Block B two victim’s house see what is going on. I
tought Mr Lee will help me and the other victim solve some problem! But NOPE! he said “That not my
responsibility. Someone broken in your house then you must know how to protect your house!” That day
some residents also heard that include desmondha. This time my wife and me cant keep our angry, we
shouted and scord to Mr Lee. But he din border us, until i suggested to my wife that we just do
complaint to newspaper ( since one of block C residents work at Chinapress ). Then Mr Lee just treat
us softly, then ask what they can help us.
After few weeks, i try to ask some of salesman from Masteron about the broken in case happen in Block
B on Feb 2007. They repied as the residents din lock thier grill properly to cause someone broken in!
The fact is my kicten grill with 1 locker be cutted and 7th floor victim front grill with 2 locker
being cutted. This called not lock properly! We have post proof and the photo at
http://koitropika.16.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=1523&highlight=&sid=98175e4edf9c7d99c3a00a221425336f#
1523
After this two cases ahppen, I am very agreed what is desmandha said “pls stay away from Masteron”.
God, If I got second chance to chose, i won’t chose spend all of my saving pay to the blood sucker
developer to build my happiness family in Kopi Tropika.
I din feel happiness, safety for my property, secure for my life here!
Comment by klsam — April 27, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
To those intersting in Masteron properties,
I’m very agreed what desmondha said that “developer is blood sucker!”, “i have got cheated, i dont
want other to be same fate like me”, and “pls stay away from Masteron”!
I am one of “victim” from Koi Tropika buyer, please read what happen I stay at Koi Tropika along half
year.
1st case — Being threaten by one of the Security Guard.
Dear Residents,
I would like to share my experience with u all on this issue. Yesterday (2/10) evening around 6p.m, my
sisters, my auntie and my dad came to Koi and visit me. When my sister enter to the security guard
house, she been asked to park her car 1st and get the visitor pass. Then the gate is opened. So, my
sister drove her car and park it in the block B car park as the security guard didn’t mention where
she should park the car. She have been to Koi few weeks back in helping me on moving house therefore
she park the car as where she park that day. Once she park the car, my dad went down and waiting my
sister in the lift area. B4 my sister came down from the car to get the visitor pass from the security
guard, one of the security guard came over and started to scold my sister without explained anything
in the first place. He was scolding them because they not getting the visitor pass. He raised his hand
and act like wanted to hit them (remember this guy is not wearing security uniform at that time). My
sister was very scared and calls me to come down. This guy stop scolding only when he saw my dad came
over from the lift area. When I came down, I went to the security house with my wife and we wanted
this security guard to explain on the incident happened just now as his attitude is very rude. He
asked us to complain if not satisfied with his attitude. So, my wife took down his name and IC number.
He mentioned that no use for us to complain as he will win (menang) no matter how. He claimed that he
is the security guard (but he not wearing security uniform when he having this conversation with us)
and he controls everything over here, even if he used the security stick to hit us, he is not guilty
as well. He threatens us that if him know that we do not have access card, he will take action and
beware of our cars. My wife was so angry that time and direct show him hers access card and this time
he tried to take something (security stick) and hit my wife. Luckily we are standing around 2 feet
away from him when we had this conversation. I can’t believe this wording and action is come from the
security guard who suppose to protect us but now is threatening our life. This is so scary. I have
called up Mr Ragu and informed him on this right after this incident.
http://koitropika.16.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=114&sid=98175e4edf9c7d99c3a00a221425336f
I had complaint to Mr Ragu, but after few days the answers i get from Mr Ragu is he already fired the
GILA guard and he also can not do anything bcoz this is the CHEAPEST security company they can employ!
The problem is management employ a secuirty company to protect resident’s safety not comsider the
cost! This is 1st time i dissapointed to Masteron management, the luckiest my family members are safe
and without any injured, but this really really hurt my family members’ impression and relationship!
2nd cases — Security at Koi Tropika - Things You Didn’t Know…
Some of you might be shocked to hear this, but it’s the truth and I think all Koi Tropika residents
and owners deserved to know…
On the 9th of January 2007, a Tuesday at around 2+ in the afternoon, a thief was caught at Block A. He
was spotted by a maintenance staff whom informed the management and the security guards on duty via
his walkie talkie. With a full team of people, both gates at the staircase’s exit wa locked, leaving
the lifts as the only way in, and out. Mr Ragu lead a team of people, sweeping each and every floor,
all possible hide-outs to nab the thief. Finally, he was arrested hiding beneath the ground floor’s
staircase, covering himself with some newspaper, hoping to go unnoticed. Upon being apprehended, the
thief claims he was visiting someone. Now, here’s the interesting part. He was spotted at the top
floor, accessing the lift chamber area with keys, which is only available to the guards and the
management. How did he do that? Well, he was recognised as one of the ex-security guard at Koi
Tropika! No, the story didn’t end there. Mr Ragu instructed the guards on duty to send him to the
police station and bring him back the report. Isn’t him, the maintenance manager supposed to lodge a
report?
Trust me. I am really angry with this! He really lacks of sense of responsibility. Besides that, what
from the past meeting was done? All the blank promises… it’s all just talking and no actions!
When that incident took place, more residents came forward with informations that there were actually
more than break-ins than we thought we knew. Some Block B residents came to tell stories about their
unit being broken into before and some about their neighbour’s unit. This usually take place where the
unit is located right next to an empty unit, where the thief will usually gain access to first, before
climbing over to the next unit, which is occupied and flee with the valuables inside. So, tell me, is
Koi Tropika really safe? Is 4 security guards on duty at any given time, and so called patrols on each
work really works? I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT!
Just to prove my point and to show all of you why am I so pissed… here’s 2 extra additional
information which NO ONE from the MANAGEMENT will tell you.
1. The mini-market located opposite the management office was broken into and the thief managed to
cart away some valuable items, such as cash, cigrattes and Milos. They gained access from the top,
cutting open a hole on it’s ceiling.
2. The washroom located right next to the swimming pool. A piece of advice for all ladies, and guys…
DO NOT SHOWER IN IT! Take a look up it’s ceiling. My source of information told me that ANYBODY who is
able to climb up to it’s roof top via any side of the single storey structure will be able to peep
through gaps and sees everything inside, which includes every single cubicle in the wash room. Believe
it or not, it’s up to you. I believe my source. I knew the person who has been up there before (work
related reasons).
All this thing we have feedback to management office but they din announce and put the notice it to
inform to all resident, let residents prevent the same case happen — since the guard is useless.
Depend on guard protect us better know how to protect our ownself!
JUst because this, indirectly I am be the 2nd “victim” in “broken in house case”.
“Finally” and unluckily is my turn. 2 units were broken into ON 2nd Feb 2007, between 11am and 5pm…
both units were located in 7th and 8th floor of Block B
What can i do? I called Ragu and security again!~~~ They ask me call police make the report 1st, OK,
Well! This is the normal procedure, I take 2 hours todo that! Police came to my house took the photo ,
check the dump spring and do some inquiry. Finally i getted a police report. ( Later I will post it to
Koitropika.16forumer.com) After i settle all this thing, one of security leader came to my house take
photo by mobile phone th i ask them what can the guard do for me? I get a suck reply, that is they can
not do anything and ask me be careful next time! OK, i keep my angry because Ragu promise me that he
will meet me at next day morning.
Next day, Ragu and his GM ( Mr.Lee ) came to Koi Block B two victim’s house see what is going on. I
tought Mr Lee will help me and the other victim solve some problem! But NOPE! he said “That not my
responsibility. Someone broken in your house then you must know how to protect your house!” That day
some residents also heard that include desmondha. This time my wife and me cant keep our angry, we
shouted and scord to Mr Lee. But he din border us, until i suggested to my wife that we just do
complaint to newspaper ( since one of block C residents work at Chinapress ). Then Mr Lee just treat
us softly, then ask what they can help us.
After few weeks, i try to ask some of salesman from Masteron about the broken in case happen in Block
B on Feb 2007. They repied as the residents din lock thier grill properly to cause someone broken in!
The fact is my kicten grill with 1 locker be cutted and 7th floor victim front grill with 2 locker
being cutted. This called not lock properly! We have post proof and the photo at
http://koitropika.16.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=1523&highlight=&sid=98175e4edf9c7d99c3a00a221425336f#
1523
After this two cases ahppen, I am very agreed what is desmandha said “pls stay away from Masteron”.
God, If I got second chance to chose, i won’t chose spend all of my saving pay to the blood sucker
developer to build my happiness family in Kopi Tropika.
I din feel happiness, safety for my property, secure for my life here!
Comment by klsam — April 27, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
To those intersting in Masteron properties,
I’m very agreed what desmondha said that “developer is blood sucker!”, “i have got cheated, i dont want other to be same fate like me”, and “pls stay away from Masteron”!
I am one of “victim” from Koi Tropika buyer, please read what happen I stay at Koi Tropika along half year.
1st case — Being threaten by one of the Security Guard.
Dear Residents,
I would like to share my experience with u all on this issue. Yesterday (2/10) evening around 6p.m, my sisters, my auntie and my dad came to Koi and visit me. When my sister enter to the security guard house, she been asked to park her car 1st and get the visitor pass. Then the gate is opened. So, my sister drove her car and park it in the block B car park as the security guard didn’t mention where she should park the car. She have been to Koi few weeks back in helping me on moving house therefore she park the car as where she park that day. Once she park the car, my dad went down and waiting my sister in the lift area. B4 my sister came down from the car to get the visitor pass from the security guard, one of the security guard came over and started to scold my sister without explained anything in the first place. He was scolding them because they not getting the visitor pass. He raised his hand and act like wanted to hit them (remember this guy is not wearing security uniform at that time). My sister was very scared and calls me to come down. This guy stop scolding only when he saw my dad came over from the lift area. When I came down, I went to the security house with my wife and we wanted this security guard to explain on the incident happened just now as his attitude is very rude. He asked us to complain if not satisfied with his attitude. So, my wife took down his name and IC number. He mentioned that no use for us to complain as he will win (menang) no matter how. He claimed that he is the security guard (but he not wearing security uniform when he having this conversation with us) and he controls everything over here, even if he used the security stick to hit us, he is not guilty as well. He threatens us that if him know that we do not have access card, he will take action and beware of our cars. My wife was so angry that time and direct show him hers access card and this time he tried to take something (security stick) and hit my wife. Luckily we are standing around 2 feet away from him when we had this conversation. I can’t believe this wording and action is come from the security guard who suppose to protect us but now is threatening our life. This is so scary. I have called up Mr Ragu and informed him on this right after this incident.
http://koitropika.16.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=114&sid=98175e4edf9c7d99c3a00a221425336f
I had complaint to Mr Ragu, but after few days the answers i get from Mr Ragu is he already fired the GILA guard and he also can not do anything bcoz this is the CHEAPEST security company they can employ!
The problem is management employ a secuirty company to protect resident’s safety not comsider the cost! This is 1st time i dissapointed to Masteron management, the luckiest my family members are safe and without any injured, but this really really hurt my family members’ impression and relationship!
Comment by klsam — April 27, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
2nd cases — Security at Koi Tropika - Things You Didn’t Know…
Some of you might be shocked to hear this, but it’s the truth and I think all Koi Tropika residents and owners deserved to know…
On the 9th of January 2007, a Tuesday at around 2+ in the afternoon, a thief was caught at Block A. He was spotted by a maintenance staff whom informed the management and the security guards on duty via his walkie talkie. With a full team of people, both gates at the staircase’s exit wa locked, leaving the lifts as the only way in, and out. Mr Ragu lead a team of people, sweeping each and every floor, all possible hide-outs to nab the thief. Finally, he was arrested hiding beneath the ground floor’s staircase, covering himself with some newspaper, hoping to go unnoticed. Upon being apprehended, the thief claims he was visiting someone. Now, here’s the interesting part. He was spotted at the top floor, accessing the lift chamber area with keys, which is only available to the guards and the management. How did he do that? Well, he was recognised as one of the ex-security guard at Koi Tropika! No, the story didn’t end there. Mr Ragu instructed the guards on duty to send him to the police station and bring him back the report. Isn’t him, the maintenance manager supposed to lodge a report?
Trust me. I am really angry with this! He really lacks of sense of responsibility. Besides that, what from the past meeting was done? All the blank promises… it’s all just talking and no actions!
When that incident took place, more residents came forward with informations that there were actually more than break-ins than we thought we knew. Some Block B residents came to tell stories about their unit being broken into before and some about their neighbour’s unit. This usually take place where the unit is located right next to an empty unit, where the thief will usually gain access to first, before climbing over to the next unit, which is occupied and flee with the valuables inside. So, tell me, is Koi Tropika really safe? Is 4 security guards on duty at any given time, and so called patrols on each work really works? I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT!
Just to prove my point and to show all of you why am I so pissed… here’s 2 extra additional information which NO ONE from the MANAGEMENT will tell you.
1. The mini-market located opposite the management office was broken into and the thief managed to cart away some valuable items, such as cash, cigrattes and Milos. They gained access from the top, cutting open a hole on it’s ceiling.
2. The washroom located right next to the swimming pool. A piece of advice for all ladies, and guys… DO NOT SHOWER IN IT! Take a look up it’s ceiling. My source of information told me that ANYBODY who is able to climb up to it’s roof top via any side of the single storey structure will be able to peep through gaps and sees everything inside, which includes every single cubicle in the wash room. Believe it or not, it’s up to you. I believe my source. I knew the person who has been up there before (work related reasons).
All this thing we have feedback to management office but they din announce and put the notice it to inform to all resident, let residents prevent the same case happen — since the guard is useless. Depend on guard protect us better know how to protect our ownself!
Comment by klsam — April 27, 2007 @ 4:22 pm
JUst because this, indirectly I am be the 2nd “victim” in “broken in house case”.
“Finally” and unluckily is my turn. 2 units were broken into ON 2nd Feb 2007, between 11am and 5pm… both units were located in 7th and 8th floor of Block B
What can i do? I called Ragu and security again!~~~ They ask me call police make the report 1st, OK, Well! This is the normal procedure, I take 2 hours todo that! Police came to my house took the photo , check the dump spring and do some inquiry. Finally i getted a police report. ( Later I will post it to Koitropika.16forumer.com) After i settle all this thing, one of security leader came to my house take photo by mobile phone th i ask them what can the guard do for me? I get a suck reply, that is they can not do anything and ask me be careful next time! OK, i keep my angry because Ragu promise me that he will meet me at next day morning.
Next day, Ragu and his GM ( Mr.Lee ) came to Koi Block B two victim’s house see what is going on. I tought Mr Lee will help me and the other victim solve some problem! But NOPE! he said “That not my responsibility. Someone broken in your house then you must know how to protect your house!” That day some residents also heard that include desmondha. This time my wife and me cant keep our angry, we shouted and scord to Mr Lee. But he din border us, until i suggested to my wife that we just do complaint to newspaper ( since one of block C residents work at Chinapress ). Then Mr Lee just treat us softly, then ask what they can help us.
After few weeks, i try to ask some of salesman from Masteron about the broken in case happen in Block B on Feb 2007. They repied as the residents din lock thier grill properly to cause someone broken in! The fact is my kicten grill with 1 locker be cutted and 7th floor victim front grill with 2 locker being cutted. This called not lock properly! We have post proof and the photo at http://koitropika.16.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=1523&highlight=&sid=98175e4edf9c7d99c3a00a221425336f#1523
After this two cases ahppen, I am very agreed what is desmandha said “pls stay away from Masteron”.
God, If I got second chance to chose, i won’t chose spend all of my saving pay to the blood sucker developer to build my happiness family in Kopi Tropika.
I din feel happiness, safety for my property, secure for my life here!
Comment by klsam — April 27, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
Koi Tropika resident please dunno post ur koi story too long here, as it’s getting loaded nowadays. Thanks!
Comment by CK — April 28, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Hi everybody, I’m not new, just only always read this form but dint post, but now I think I need to say something!
Why all those Koi Tropika folks keep on booming Koi Kinrara forum huh…
I agree with Jakie, for those Koi Tropika buyer, May I ask, r u first time purchase property? R u first time heard about Apartment/Condo? Dont believe in what the salesman said, believe your S&P and all those agreement!! Dint your parent teach you that or you dont learn it from school? This is the COMMON LAW you should know.
For those security purpose, come on man, last time when the Masteron launch Koi Tropika, I already went to the site and look at all the environment there. My first impression is, this is not a good living area! You see all those Kampung-kampung and the living status there you already know! Then now you want to blame always been broke in?
Masteron 2nd project, Koi Legian, although their concept quit good, but also the area problem, The Koi Legian dont have nice view, although in their broucher said there have a beautiful “LAKE VIEW”, but actually it’s a rubbish lake.
We should visit the site first before you purchase! But not simply purchase because influence by salesman then after that complain!
Like what Jackie said, all this Apartment/Condo also have the same problem, management problem or whatever. Dont just blame the developer or management, but all the resident have to stand out and get the job done! Not just only bawl here and bawl there! Solve your own problem!
I have friends living in Impian Height, Sri Bayu, D’kiara, D’palma, and etc. They also face all these problem before. But how about now? everything is already settle down. When the management is new, just like a new born baby, they’ll do many mistake, but we are not going to complain them, scold them, hit them, or bawl them. We need to teach them, we need to sit down and solve the problem together.
By the way, are you all attend the committee meeting? If you have attend the committee, you should make your voice there, NOT here; if you dont attend the committee meeting and dint take the responsibility as a resident, then are you competent to complain others?
Anyway, this is good also all of you mention this at here, hope the developer will get to know it and improve.
And all those Koi Tropika residence also need to do it in a CORRECT WAY.
Wish you all think wisely for what you say and what you do, dont just like those politician, talk & do without go through the brain.
Comment by Chan — April 28, 2007 @ 12:01 am
Suggestion for the poor security, u may get the alarm door system fixed into ur unit. Contact me if u need it, MSN:siyquen052@hotmail.com or email me at andreslck@yahoo.com
Also for the water filter (ater treatment system)
Comment by CK — April 28, 2007 @ 12:03 am
Hi everybody…
Wah… what happen to the Koi Tropika owner wor… come on man, dont post so long, make it short lah… and also pleae remember, here is Koi Kinrara, not Koi Tropika lah… brother…
I totally agree with Chan!!!
Comment by Yeoh — April 28, 2007 @ 12:06 am
oh ya, correct ah CK! Koi Tropika owner can purchase the alarm system from us!!
haha!!
Also I got foot massage machine, but only 1 unit, if Koi Tropika owner r interested, I’m welcome you to buy from me. Hehe! :-p
Comment by Yeoh — April 28, 2007 @ 12:10 am
I think some friends here have some misunderstanding what koi tropikas’ comments. All the home buyer, must always exchange their idea or experience even though we are not the residents in your area. For example, koi tropika residents also discussing the problems with other condo in bandar puteri and cheras side. How come you could’t accept our comments, but also limit us to talk in our own area/forum? I am confusing…
Anyway, we just provided some information here, please open your heart to accept it, whether good or bad, let reader/potential buyer to comment themselver.
Koi kinrara/koi Legain, good luck.
Comment by 小道 — April 28, 2007 @ 10:35 am
Why i wanna post the long story here? I understand every apartment/condo faced the same problem, as what chan said Koi Tropika around kampung-kampung there, why the management din take any action to prevent the same cases happen? Chan do you know how many time koi tropika residents discuss, meeting and teach them in meeting? Almost 1 month 1 time or 2 times, why the management take action? That is nothing. I not waanna blame anyone, just wanna let you know that Masteron management is always talk not action! Not the Koi tropika security problem, is Masteron management problem!~
Comment by klsam — April 28, 2007 @ 10:49 am
Let them be. If those smart inidividuals wish not listen to us, it’s their rights. No point for us to argue on that. But mind us. We are not telling you, the smart ones. We are telling those first time purchasers of condominiums and apartments as you highlighted. You might know everything. In fact, you might even be a professional at it. But who cares? Just like you. You don’t care a bit of what we said. Vice versa. We are not targeting you. We are targeting first time property owners who knows nothing and teach that what to look at carefully. To Chan, Yeoh and ck, thanks for the precious feedbacks and generous offers. I know people dealing in better security sytems, water filtration system, some politicians and if it matter to you, I too have friends living in some rather prestigious condominiums like MK9 in Hartamas. I don’t compare them for an obvious reason. The developer are doing a real good at maintaining the place.
And for all of you whom are irritated by my comments, my sincere apologies. I didn’t know that you can’t take facts and truth. I hope someone will benefit from our experience and comments if not you. And the smart ones, do share your views with the naive ones earlier instead of highlighting them now. What’s the difference between you and the sweet talking sales person who tell buyers to refer to their SPA when promises were not met after their purchase? Well, maybe you are not that smart afterall…
Comment by andromedia — April 28, 2007 @ 10:53 am
Dear all,
The reason why we as koi buyer posted our story here is because we would like to share with others our experience with this developer. I’m sorry if this is disturbing u all. As for me, yes, this is my 1st property. I understand all we got should based on S&P but i dun think that the material or workmanship of the building (not only the individual unit, i referring to whole building) are stated in there. Our koi building have few serious cracks on the main beam (summore its a new building). I think all of us should know y this could happened. All is because the poor workmanship and maybe inproper done by the developer. For your information, we had few meetings (not only once or twice) with Masteron GM, OP Lee and voice out our dissapointed and our suggestion to make koi a better living area for all us here. Anyhow, all we have just blank promises and nothing have improved. Thats the reason why we are so angry with this developer. Is Masteron a 2nd TALAM or else, I do not know. As a conclusion, choose a proper developer b4 purchase a property. Think twice of MASTERON!
Comment by SS — April 28, 2007 @ 10:58 am
And if it actually matters to the smart one, allow me to highlight another fact and truth.
This is NOT a forum. This is a blog-based articles with feedbacks and comments features. Koi Tropika’s forum is a real forum, on it’s own. I guess the next time before someone should brag about their knowledge and use bolds in their replies, they should first accept the fact if they can do it, so can OTHERS!
Comment by andromedia — April 28, 2007 @ 10:59 am
我想澄清，这可不是 koi tropika 居民知识上的问题。这里有好多的白领人士，也有受高程度的教育毕业的居民。知识上可不是问题，问题可就是Masteron的总经理OP Lee没有信用，没有服行对居民的承诺，没有对社会付上应有的责任。工程出现问题，部分的建筑费被干捞了，所有的罪案都被盖上不让它影响koi kinrara和koi regain 的销售。大部分的投诉都被拖延，也有不受理睬的，这就是OP Lee为保着本身总经理一职着想，那有服行对买家应有的责任。
我们的投诉就是希望看到masteron应在商业营利前后，都必须对对买家付上责任。
我可不想看到这败类只会为蔡福安-集材也伤丁。
Comment by 小道 — April 28, 2007 @ 12:06 pm
Thanks for the advice from Koi Tropika owner.
I’ll keep that in mind!
;-)
Wish you all can settle all the issue as soon as possible lah!
Also hopefully Koi Kinrara wont have this problem.
If that is convenient kindly keep us update on how you all settle all those problem, I think it’s a good knowledge for us too. (in case it is happen to Koi Kinrara also…)
Wish you all have a good day!
Comment by Yeoh — April 28, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
Chan,
r u the onwer of Koi Kinrara?
Comment by Yeoh — April 28, 2007 @ 6:42 pm
For those KOI Tropika buyers whom are irritated by my previous comments, my sincere apologies.
My comments does not mean I don’t listen to your problem, the only things i know from my previous experince, when things like this happen in an appartment or condo
1) Who is the guys actually want take the responsiblity to be the chairman?
2) When a chairman is selected, does everyone agree with what he say?
3) A lot of resident will complain by words but when take action they will missing. Most people like to talk cock.
4) Who is able to put all time on this issue? No need to work for living?
5) When meeting with the Developer or management, most of the time don’t have any documentation (meeting minutes and sign by both party).
6) When developer or management make a promise by words, is not legal via the LAWs. You guys should make them sign and chop (Black and white).
For new buyer or existing buyer:
Do remember that when you taken a housing loan, you are protected. As the bank will hold the last 5% before you sign the delivery note. So for KOI Tropika buyers (may be you guys are first time), why you accept and sign when the workmanship is so bad? You guys should take the photos and send the official complain letter to KOI management and cc to the bank. Let the developer fix it for you, or claim the last 5% from bank and fix yourself.
If you guys sign already, according to the most of the S&P document, you will have 12 month warranty period against the defects. Please gather all the residents (not less than 50%) take the defect photo, go thru a proper channel to make complain (example: lawyer, but you guys may need to pay the lawyer fees).
Guys please consult a proper channel when you need advise. (don’t look for me, i’m not a lawyer)
By the way, we will learn more when we do mistake. That where my experince came from.
Comment by Jackie — April 29, 2007 @ 12:49 am
To Koi Tropika Buyer, May I know r u claim that I’m naive?
Ha, this is funny. I’m 51 years old, this is the 3rd house that I purchase, and I purchase it for my daughter.
I faced many problem with all those developer before, but I solved that out with calmness and correct way (like what Jackie said, lawyer and rules). Not like you all, with anger and split the bad news!
So now you think who is naive? Who’s “the smart one”?
And are you all said that you are actually to share what happen in Koi Tropika so that others warn it? I dont think so, I just know you all keep on ORDERING people DON’T BUY from Masteron, but not share your problem previously! I did read that most of the people here keep on asking you why are you so bias to the developer, but you dint reply until now! Why?! (actually you no need to answer to me this question, coz you might have many excuses!)
And be frank, how many resident in Koi Tropika? And can you telling me that how many CORRECT percentage of the resident there are not satisfy with the developer?
Also there is one thing you must remember, the management is getting your money to run, you are the boss of Koi Tropika, you are the one telling the management how to do but not the management telling you what to do! So may I ask, are your committee strong enough to order the management how to do?!
You all make me feel like those young staff in my company, always not appreciate with what they have, just know how to complain, but never think out the proper way to solve all the problem!
And I know, you all must not agree and feel angry with what I said, but after 5 years, 10 years or even 20 years, you’ll know what you are doing now is so naive.
Let the old man give you the last advice, read more books, to correct your attitude and knowledge. Dont let it spoil your life.
May the GOD bless you.
Comment by Chan — April 29, 2007 @ 10:25 pm
And one last thing, every people also dont like others (including boss) to order them to do things. So, when you due with the management, please be calm, soft and smart.
Dont anger, shout or pointing on them although you have the right.
And, I apologize if I insult your feeling.
I’m sorry.
Comment by Chan — April 29, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
good poiting!! learn a lesson here..haa..
Comment by Freenight — April 29, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
Yes, i also agree that there are good post by chan & jackie. That posts compare with their posts last time, are 1000% better and useful. That is what we need(including koi kinrara and legian buyers for future use).
Since you have so good experience/knowledge in this problem, we also wish that you could post more to share with us, better to post useless to share. Please, continue to post in this way….. thanks in advance and i am waiting your good post today and tomorrow.
Comment by 小道 — April 30, 2007 @ 8:26 am
Oh, forgot something. I wish to classify my post above, jackie has a 1000% better post sharing (knowledge/experience) than Chan’s post.
Comment by 小道 — April 30, 2007 @ 8:31 am
Hi Koi Tropika purchase,
I have a suggestion, if the management/developer really not cooperate with you, accept to seek the help from the lawyer, you still can write a letter to Sin Chew. Do you read the Q&A regarding the property in Sunday Special Edition? Got many people make the complain there and seek for help. I think you can go through that channel also.
Comment by Yeoh — April 30, 2007 @ 9:05 am
Hi again, you can make the complain through Ministry of Housing and Local Government, the website is http://www.kpkt.gov.my/
But I think that might not help for much, because as I know the Koi Tropika is under Commercial Land also, if it’s under commercial land, than the resident is not protected again Housing & Development Act (HDA).
Or you can check with the Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna also.
http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/
Comment by Yeoh — April 30, 2007 @ 9:39 am
The feedback by the buyers are very important for reference to every potential buyers. We wish that related parties of masteron (higher/highest position of administrator) can stop their unhealthy transactions. If the unhealthy transactions still doing in bottom of table, i can expect that masteron’s sub-contractors keep doing unhealthy construction for all next koi projects. Good luck kinrara and legian…..
Comment by 小道 — April 30, 2007 @ 9:56 am
Well, in my humble opinion, the person who felt irritated and triggered by my post is probably the person I am referring. It doesn’t matter how old a person is when it comes to their brain, their maturity and their knowledge. What makes you think a person’s age reflected to anything about their personality and maturity?
Who cares if this is your 3rd property. As mentioned before, just so happened by you, you don’t really care about Koi Tropika. Well, seems like someone backfired himself. And if it all matters to you, this so happen to be my 2nd property, not first. I know exactly how a management should run, and this is definitely not the right way.
In addition to the above, I could have list out everything with reasons, supporting evidence and even a good reason why are we doing all these, but after all these, I don’t see the reason to it anymore. Seems like our free nation is so free when it comes to speech freedom afterall.
Ermm… just an additional note. Master your English command before you tries to post a round of suggestions or comments. I am having a hard time trying to figure out what you are trying to tell us all. And try to compare something with something else which is more superior. No point comparing a condominium with another run down one. Try comparing it with a much better managed one and you shall see improvement. Aha… that’s why! Everyone is comparing Koi Tropika with those rather problematic ones. I am sorry to disappoint you but we at Koi Tropika will prove all of you wrong.
And to all Koi Kinrara purchaser… forget about everything I have ever posted here. Someone thinks what were told by me were wrong, naive and filled with hatred in them. They are the smart ones afterall. We are naive. I don’t care. We know what we are doing and we are in the verge of finalising them. Very soon, we will get what we paid for.
Comment by andromedia — April 30, 2007 @ 10:12 am
To Mr/Ms Yeoh and Mr/Ms Jackie, good luck in your purchases. As mentioned, I hope both of you and the rest of Koi Kinrara purchasers will have better luck compared to us.
Comment by andromedia — April 30, 2007 @ 10:14 am
Yeoh is right. Any property under a commercial title like Koi Tropika is not protected by the HDA, KPKT or any govt agency. So… caveat emptor.
Comment by Administrator — April 30, 2007 @ 10:23 am
Yeah, caveat emptor.
andromedia,
thanks you, hope you can settle your problem as soon as possible.
Wish you have a nice day!
Comment by Yeoh — April 30, 2007 @ 11:48 am
i paid the deposit for kos kinrara 16th floor,bcos showroom nice,price ok,placeok,view ok,got discount ,gor free tv,free cash2888,free air-cond…….but but but now i know kos tropica got many problem for Development,maintanance fee…….i very scare:( our kos kinrara like tropica got many problem………..now may be i will lost 1000 deposit if not after i buy maybe will lost1750000++++…..good luck for kos kinrara purchaser!!!who know kuchai avenue very fast than kos kinrara who can tell me why?y kos kinrara so slow the project?
Comment by chris — April 30, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
So u all still want need any product from me? Dun feel share to contact me…have a nice day!
Comment by CK — April 30, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
shy”
Comment by CK — April 30, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
I prefer to hear the feedback from developer side. So, SK Wan anything to explain here?
Comment by CK — April 30, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
Hi, Chan can tell us which floor and block u buy? Mayb can add inside the list…tq…
Comment by tiger — April 30, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
哎…有时真的很难确定哪一个发展商好，哪一个不好。当初在寻找房子时，很想买由IOI发展的房屋。不需要担心交屋及品质问题，但却非常的贵。虽然地点很好。要便宜的房屋呢，却不晓得发展商好不好。要如何说呢，也许这就是TIM吧！THIS IS MALAYSIA!
在我选择Koi Kinrara之前，我当然也做过一些调查，当然略知道关于Koi Tropika的事情。
但是我却非常喜欢Koi Kinrara那边的地点，设计，当然还有价钱。在Puchong Jaya 的地点来说算是便宜了。
其实我每天上班都有经过koi legian，发现她建得也蛮快，而且看来又不是很糟糕，所以老实说也有点安心。
之前我也有要求我公司的Account帮我检查所有属于Choy Fook Oon 旗下的公司 （简称CTOS），其实该公司的财务状况很稳定，后备基金也很强，当然包括Masteron。
再看看它过去的Project到现在的Koi Kinrara，的确众所周知，之前的Koi Tropika Block A & B 有很多问题 （根据Masteron这是Kontractor的关系，这个我看我们也不需要再追究了),但是之后接下来的Koi Tropika Block C & D, Koi Legian 我个人认为其实Masteron也一直在进步嘛。
其实其他还没有决定购买的人呢，我觉得不管哪一个发展商都好，我们都需要调查清楚，不需要太过有偏见。当然，在决定购买之后，也要有心理准备会有不满的事情发生，更要学习去如何解决。毕竟马来西亚还未完全实行先建后售。
还有，又一次我在Koi Kinrara 的建筑场地遇见一个也是Koi Kinrara Purchaser （姓黄的，购买 Block B），他告诉我说他从 Koi Tropika 开始就一直跟进所有 Masteron 的建筑工程，之前他不愿意购买 Koi Kinrara 是因为他认为 Masteron 还不够成熟，现在的 Koi Kinrara 就值得买了。当初我也是听了他这句话我才安心的。
其实呢，又是个人认为呵，反正都买了，一切为有相信发展商，随遇而安罗。
我相信一切的问题都有它解决的办法的!
要未雨绸缪，但不需要杞人忧天。
Comment by Yeoh — April 30, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
以上言论，纯属个人见解，别无它意。
自己的金钱，自己来衡量吧！
Comment by Yeoh — April 30, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
wow, its like war zone here
i cant say much, as im only a staff n not in management level.
to koi tropika buyer, u all has purchased the property on your own free will with no1 force u to buy and u agree all the terms and conditions b4 u purchased.
if u regret on the purchased, u yourself the 1 to blame coz you r the 1 who make the decision to buy and u has not do your own research. even if buy a handphone ppl will do research.
and for all the break-in wat can a management office do?and i ask u back, wat the police has done? police is the official security n did u blame the police for all the break-in…………. n u tell me wat can we all do?
and most break-in happen in daytime as most resident not at home their are at work…night time is no good for break-in coz ppl back from work.its harder to break-in
here are my suggestion to beefup the security:
1.form a resident patrol
2.install alarm system ,
3.change all lock set to a more advance security system coz standard lockset is easy to break-in
4.personal cctv, like web cam(save cost)in corridor and ent of your house(in easy break-in area)
5.perfloor has a leader on security matter on who will not at home n who will be at home so u will noe the ppl movement and neigbour can look after the house nearby and next to each others
and for club house u scare got peeping tom, so do u go shopping and go to fitting room.fitting room also can put spy cam. and even twin singer got peeping tom when changing in genting consert.so….wat can we do?
if u dont help your self who will help u……..
like the case in tar college guard attack n rape student in college compound. its happen bcoz guard also human and we all cant c if he a good or bad person until he commit a crime………. so dont trust ppl to easy…think b4 do, if u has no knowledge get help ask around or read book or get more info from the internet
sorry if i say to much
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff — April 30, 2007 @ 5:33 pm
i want to ask when i want to sign s&p why is0.15psf? i bought is klcc view not all the same meh?
Comment by chris — April 30, 2007 @ 6:10 pm
i want to ask when i want to sign s&p why is0.15psf? i bought is klcc view not all the same meh? i hold to sign anything!!who can tell me wht can i do
Comment by chris — April 30, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
Hi Chris,
May I know r u sign your Offer Letter (OL) already? If after you sign the OL, you should ask for sign the S&P soon, if not, maybe got some documentation problem, then you should refer to the bank.
Chris, the maintenance fees everybody also RM 0.15 psf wor… anything wrong?
and some more for your information, every months you also need to pay another RM 0.05 psf for the sinking fund (this issue we talk before, please refer to the previous post for the details).
For some people that might not know coz I been ask by CK previously, the sinking fund details is not written in S&P, it’s written in DEED OF MUTUAL COVENANTS, page 10.
Comment by Yeoh — April 30, 2007 @ 8:41 pm
Chris,
We are welcome you to join our MSN group, coz any news of Koi Kinrara normally we’ll discuss in MSN first.
elwen_yeoh@hotmail.com
Comment by Yeoh — April 30, 2007 @ 8:43 pm
Seem like long time dint update the list.
Anybody left out?
A-22-08} Edwin
A-21-11} CK
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-19-08} Derrick
A-17-11} Cat
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
B-21-06} Ken
B-18-12) Jackie
B-18-05} Desmond
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-3A-02} teesk
Comment by Yeoh — April 30, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff
1.form a resident patrol
Comment by Dennis — May 2, 2007 @ 1:33 am
SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff
1.form a resident patrol
- sweat…… then y r we paying the security guard for??? to be a peeping tom?
Comment by Dennis — May 2, 2007 @ 1:36 am
bcoz koi tropika resident say 4 guard is not enough , so resident patrol is just an idea for additional security
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff — May 2, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Please use ur common sense. Do u think 4 guards are enuf for 300 unit in block A & B, and now blk C and blk D coming soon? Don’t forget these 4 so called “guard” need to be on shift ya. On 30th April at ard 7pm, heard another broken in case and real peeping tom happened in block C. This is the problem with Masteron, management sed they are not responsible with wat the sales person promised us previously and now sales person saying tat they cant do anything as they r not the management level. Good Tai Chi skill~! Muahaha….. Oppss! I’m sorry. Should say this is perfect team work between sales person and management.
Comment by klsam — May 2, 2007 @ 10:14 pm
Oh ya, SK Wan, I’m one of ur buyer too. Anyway, thk u for ur “useful information”.
Comment by klsam — May 2, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
updates: B-05-05 was purchased since last year and he is ex my colleague.. Cheers !!
Comment by Alfred — May 2, 2007 @ 11:09 pm
opsss..miss out something…My ex-colleague name is William Chin ….. he frendld person and talkactive guy…but unfortunely he got GF oredi..outside gal dont think too much oh…
Comment by Alfred — May 2, 2007 @ 11:13 pm
The problem can be solve if committee had a meeting and all agree to change to a better management
Comment by Dennis — May 2, 2007 @ 11:14 pm
bcoz koi tropika resident say 4 guard is not enough , so resident patrol is just an idea for additional security
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff — May 2, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
that mean we need to pay more maintainece fees so the management can provide better services
Comment by Dennis — May 2, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
A-22-08} Edwin
A-21-11} CK
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-19-08} Derrick
A-17-11} Cat
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
B-21-06} Ken
B-18-12) Jackie
B-18-05} Desmond
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-05-05} William Chin
B-3A-02} teesk
Latest update!
Welcome William to join us ya!! Hehe!!
Comment by Yeoh — May 2, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
A-22-08} Edwin
A-21-11} CK
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-19-08} Derrick
A-17-11} Cat
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
B-21-06} Ken
B-18-12) Jackie
B-18-05} Desmond
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-05-05} William Chin
B-3A-02} teesk
Latest update!
Welcome William to join us in KOI KINRARA ya!! Hehe!!
Comment by Yeoh — May 2, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
If the issue happen in Koi Tropika also happen to Koi Kinrara, Hopefully all the guys in the list are able to form a good committee and solve the issue by proper channel in legal ways.
Comment by Jackie — May 2, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
Hi Jackie,i argee with u… strong committee need many buyer to join!Hopefully koi kinrara will no have problem with our strong committe,ha…ha…Any buyer still no yet ‘register’the list??Dennis r u koi kinrara buyer?
Comment by tiger — May 3, 2007 @ 7:52 am
Strong commitee? Sultan, prime minister, GM, doctor, lawyer, YB…..
or student, cleck, assistant, officer, cleaner, general worker?
Comment by 小道 — May 3, 2007 @ 9:11 am
I wish to see how strong koi kinrara committee coming soon. And please remember koi kinrara only RM100k+++…..
Comment by 小道 — May 3, 2007 @ 9:16 am
小道 seem like deeply hurted by his purchase on KOI TROPIKA,Sorry about that but be calm and gentlemen..Don’t lost yourself. It’s never too late to sell out ur current property and purchase a unit at KOI Kinrara and join our committee..i believe it will strong enough thereafter. SK Wan, anymore unit left a KOI Kinrara for 小道? Wish u good luck! Awaiting you to join us!
Comment by CK — May 3, 2007 @ 10:28 am
haha! CK, Yeoh… i just sign S&P on sunday noon.
小道i knw u just wan to share ur information to us…
but how… we already sign S&P… wat we can do is avoid samething happen in Koi tropika… I hope developer will knw wat happen in Koi Tropika, is Koi Kinrara also have same problem, then how about the another 2 block at Koi Kinrara, sure it will effect the sale when Block C and D launch. right?
Comment by meow — May 3, 2007 @ 12:30 pm
?然，?一?發展????好壞利弊??然koi tropika跟koi legend?地??置可如此差?，view?風??人???，koi kinrara???發展?????condo，好?為之吧！此?????害?盡每?寸地?發展更多更多??????U think Koi kinrara have a nice view, pls tink about next two years, ?是?????其！當???只???人????>
Comment by Lim — May 3, 2007 @ 1:01 pm
Hi Lim, please resent again u comment 536 bcos cannot read too many ‘?’.tq…
..
Comment by tiger — May 3, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
SK.Wan, wat for we are paying for the maintenance fee? If 4 security guard not enough, then hired more guard for safetly purpose. Every month we pay for the maintenance fees, we still have to be resident patrol for additional security. Then y we need pay for the maintenance fee for, while we can have resident patrol. Where all the money go?
Comment by John — May 3, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Dear John,
If you want to know where your money go, we can check the maintainance office, we have to right to check their account. Some more, the resident have the right to ask for more security guard if the fund is ENOUGH… (must remember, not every unit pay…)
Dear Koi Kinrara purchaser,
Yeah, I hope we really can form strong committee, this is why I keep on update the new resident list. We need to gather as much as people if we can, it’s better than only “3 brothers” is working out all those things (some people which come out for movie recently might know what is my meaning of “3 brothers”). Although we’re not those “Sultan, prime minister, GM, doctor, lawyer, YB..
or student, cleck, assistant, officer, cleaner, general worker?”, but I believe with team work we are able to solve the things.
Anyhow, the important that all of us must able to make the things move but not just “TALK”.
The maintainance & guard also human, I believe if we discuss all those problem with CALM and GENTLE we’ll be able to solve all of our problem. No matter how much knowledge or how much qualification we have, if we dont know how to due with people, then that’s no use of our knowledge or qualification.
Sorry, my english is bad like Chan, hope all of you able to understand.
Comment by Yeoh — May 3, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
A-22-08} Edwin
A-21-11} CK
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-19-08} Derrick
A-17-11} Cat
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
B-21-06} Ken
B-18-12) Jackie
B-18-05} Desmond
B-10-12} Kim
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-05-05} William Chin
B-3A-02} teesk
Latest update!
Welcome KIM to join us in Koi Kinrara!!
Comment by Yeoh — May 3, 2007 @ 7:58 pm
Hi, all, i think its time for me to post out some comments, perhaps this will ease some problems here. I am one of the agent who responsible to sell Koi Tropika, I am with Masteron more than 1 years. I am actively view all the forums and discussion about masteron projects, realestate.net.my for Koi Tropika, koitropika.forumer.com for Koi Tropika owners, propertymalaysia for Koi Kinrara.
Be a third party not representing Koi Management or Koi Residents, this is what my say, good or bad is very subjective. I am one of the agent who meet with most of the Koi Tropika owners, out of 100 residents, 40 will say ok but the other 60 will say bad. Be frank, there got really some problems with Koi Management, for Koi management, there got too many internal small groups with different sayings and different style and way of doing things.
I will try to explain why andromedia, klsam and “xiao dao” are so angry and try to voice out something here. The maintenance people and the Koi Management are not doing their jobs and duties well (not responsible enough). I was in the 1st meeting between Koi Tropika Management and Koi Tropika Residents. The 2nd meeting I was not in, so could not describe it. What the Koi Management had promised? Problem of Water ponding at the corridor to be solved (something had been done but the problem still not yet solved), to have all the owners car plate to be sprayed at their reserved carpark lot, to have awning at the entry and exit so that owner can touch the access card especially during thunderstorm, increase the height of fence to prevent crime and theft, try to have double tier security (add the glass door at the lift lobby) and so on, I can see out of 10 things been promised, only 1 or 2 been carried out (the 1st meeting date is 16/12/06, way to slow to fulfill their promise or can be deemed as empty promises). Even when klsam voluntarily propose one of his friend who want to give the maintenance manager the quote for the glass door at lift lobby, the manager refused to see the friend. So for me, I can understand these 3 people frustration.
But things are improving slowly, today itself 3/5/2007 Thursday, andromedia (also recognized as ck) had applied half day leave to have conversation with the GM OP Lee and the maintenance manager for more than 5 hours (4pm to 9pm++) try to fight for Koi Tropika Residents’ rights and benefits. What I get know from CK is that he is quite successful, hope things going on well…
My conclusion will be both of the groups here actually with the same objective and goal, want to fight something good for their own property (Koi Kinrara and Koi Tropika), just way of expressing it cause some conflicts and issues. My suggestion here that you all should become friends rather than enemy, unite together then I think you all can have better bargain power with the Masteron Management. The Koi Tropika owner and Koi Kinrara owner have so much common and similarity (especially the name of owner), i will list out some of the list of Koi Tropika owner to proof my words:
C-11-03A, C-20-07} Edwin
A-07-11} CK
D-21-06} Kenny
D-22-03} Yeoh
D-19-03} Derrick
D-18-13} Ketty (about the same with Cat)
A-07-11} MelMel (about the same with Meow)
C-23-11} John
B-07-13} Ken
D-06-05) Jackie
Block A} Desmond Ha
B-03-03A} Ang Kim Hock (also got Kim)
D-12-06} Jason (ason same with Anson)
B-01-06} Alfred
C-06-13} lmooi (about the same with nbooi)
D-03A-03A} Lion (about the same with Tiger)
B-08-15} Andy a/l William
D-13-03} teesh (about the same with teesk)
I would like to say the way klsam and andromedia said here might be a bit extreme, but if you go koitropika.forumer.com then you will know them well, they are giving out constructive ideas and way to improve Koi Tropika from time to time, they even share some useful updates for all the Koi Tropika Residents from time to time(around 100 owners over there).
Lastly, wish all the best to Koi Tropika and Koi Kinrara residents…
Comment by Goldberg — May 4, 2007 @ 1:09 am
After such a long post (it take me about 2 hours to compose it, especially when I want to find the owner name of Koi Tropika that similar to Koi Kinrara), i really hope there will be peace here, stop arguing, quarelling and attacking among each other, you both groups should be friends but not enemy because you all have the same objectives and goals…
Comment by Goldberg — May 4, 2007 @ 1:17 am
Dear Tiger,
i was planning to buy koi kinara, since the masteron management sucks, i have change my plan, i just voice out my opinion coz we buyer should protect each other from bad management
All the best to all the house buyers
Comment by Dennis — May 4, 2007 @ 1:33 am
to koi tropika buyer, u all has purchased the property on your own free will with no1 force u to buy and u agree all the terms and conditions b4 u purchased.
if u regret on the purchased, u yourself the 1 to blame coz you r the 1 who make the decision to buy and u has not do your own research. even if buy a handphone ppl will do research.
Comment by SK.Wan 012-270 8020, koi staff — April 30, 2007 @ 5:33 pm
- so we learn a lesson here, so next time dont ever listen to the sweet talk by the sales person.
Comment by Dennis — May 4, 2007 @ 2:08 am
Goldberg, thanks for your understanding! Actually, we not arguing, just discussing only! I agree “no1 force u to buy and u agree all the terms and conditions b4 u purchased”, but remember write what the salesman promise to you in black and white. Consider seriously, now you purchase a house not a vega! If for investor, i not comment, but for purchaser purpose living, please think your family feeling and safety! Thanks for everyone! I believe this is my last time posting comment here! Hope all Koi Kinrara residents free from any problem!~
Comment by klsam — May 4, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
Yeah!! Got Yeoh in D-22-03!!!
Yeah yeah, you are right Goldberg, we should be friend, not enemy.
Comment by Yeoh — May 4, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
Be frank, I also a Sales (sales engineer), I also hate those sales person which promise nothing and just wan to get the sales.
Comment by Yeoh — May 4, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
keke…. good ler… i become “melmel” already …
Yeoh sang… i lost ur contact number already.Please send ur contact number to me.
Comment by meow — May 4, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
Ha…ha… koi kinrara ‘TIGER’ vs koi tropika ‘LION’….wait n see!!!
Joking la…
Comment by tiger — May 4, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
HI everybody, we just discuss in MSN, so we’re going to organize another movie show, !!
On 26 May 2007, should be Mid Nite show.
For those whose interest, please e-mail to me!
yeoh_chit_mun@gmail.com
or
elwen_yeoh@hotmail.com
Comment by Yeoh — May 4, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
Agreed! Peace! Let’s watch movie together…together with koi kinrara & tropika residents!
Comment by CK — May 4, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
Hi, finally I feel something real good over here, peace of words real cause me have peace of mind. Anyhow some good news for all, Koi Management had done something to Koi Tropika Residents:-
(1) Change of the Security Guard Company that provide unsatisfactory services (immediate effect).
(2) The Canopy (or Awning) confirm will be built at the Main Entrance of Koi Tropika so that the owners can touch the access card especially at rainy day or during thunderstorm (in 2 weeks time).
(3) The perimeter fencing already been increased up to 7 ft (done).
(4) The clubhouse area lighting (too dim at the moment) will be improved in 2 weeks time.
(5) The improvement work on the water ponding issue (70% solved only) will be carried out in these 2 weeks time also.
(6) To add Wi-Fi at the clubhouse area (suggestion stage, yet to be implemented)
This is what I get know from GM Mr. OP Lee after today meeting. He promised to fight even something real good for Koi Tropika residents (said will let me know after monday), hopefully I can spread even better news after this. Finally the residents’ effort fruit something, Fair and Square, if the Koi Management did something wrong, they should face the music, but when something good had been done, some nice appraisal should be given to them.
Anyhow, this is what my belief, with strong resident committee, after time passed by, everything will settle down and will be improved become better and better. The Koi Management will become more matured and learn from the lesson.
Lastly, some related topic to Koi Kinrara, the maturity of the current Koi Tropika management will ensure a better future for Koi Kinrara residents… For Sure…
Comment by Goldberg — May 5, 2007 @ 1:44 am
Hurraayyy!!!
Eh… now I know the security guard is 3rd party… this is really BAD…
QUESTION: Why dont form own security guard… I dont like 3rd party security company, I felt that they’re not responsible one…
Comment by Yeoh — May 5, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
Latest photos updated in the following link:
http://elwen_yeoh.blogs.friendster.com/photos/koi_kinrara/index.html
Comment by Yeoh — May 6, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
Just book one unit sunway view in koi kinrara. Yeah!
Comment by gazard — May 6, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
Hi Qazard,
Do you mind to let us know which unit you purchase? So that we could add you in out list as below. Hehe!
A-22-08} Edwin
A-21-11} CK
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-19-08} Derrick
A-17-11} Cat
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
B-21-06} Ken
B-18-12) Jackie
B-18-05} Desmond
B-10-12} Kim
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-05-05} William Chin
B-3A-02} teesk
Comment by Yeoh — May 6, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
yoh guys ~ so glad to see there are numbers of Block B residents in the list. haha ~
So yeoh san, what movie are we going to watch huh? hoho
cheers ~
Desmond Chin
Comment by Desmond Chin — May 6, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
Desmond,
Pirate of the Caribbean lor.
Interest ga? Dont aeroplane again…
Comment by Yeoh — May 7, 2007 @ 12:21 am
To all potential residents here in this blog/forum, dont be happy yet, I know very much on both Tropika and Kinrara.
At the moment, IF the first stage (foundartion works) completed but the sales 40%, otherwise the completion on time is impossible.
Comment by Edward Sow — May 7, 2007 @ 10:41 am
Same worry here…they sure go with all same sqft type
Comment by CK — May 7, 2007 @ 11:33 am
http://aiswan.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html
Comment by XX — May 7, 2007 @ 12:21 pm
Hi Edward please dont scare the buyer of koi kinrara!If every project need 100% sold out only can complete so the developer no need to launch new project lo..the developer sure have their way to promote the project.If they cannot completed in time, as mention at S&P(36 month),we can claim money from them.I think u thinking too much!!!
Comment by tiger — May 7, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
Hi Edward Sow,
You know how much the sales of Koi Legian? I just check it out, it’s only 40%, but Koi Legian is almost complete in less than 1/2 year time (i live nearby there, everyday also pass though Koi Legian)
Tiger is right, most of property also cant completely sold out before construction finish, the marketing people already do the calculation on that.
And I heard from the lawyer, he said normally most of the developer will take about 2-3 years time (after the property complete) to sold out existing units.
Comment by Yeoh — May 7, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
Hi Yeoh,
I added myself to the list…
Says Hi to all future neighbor
A-22-08} Edwin
A-21-11} CK
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-19-08} Derrick
A-17-11} Cat
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
A-11-11} Gazard
B-21-06} Ken
B-18-12) Jackie
B-18-05} Desmond
B-10-12} Kim
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-05-05} William Chin
B-3A-02} teesk
Comment by gazard — May 8, 2007 @ 9:04 pm
Welcome Gazard to join us!!!
So, Gazard, kindly add me in ur MSN if u dont mind.
elwen_yeoh@hotmail.com
Comment by Yeoh — May 9, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Next Movie is NEXT staring by Nicolas Cage….
I keen to watch this movie ~~~
Comment by Alfred — May 9, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
i dont know bout u guys….i am wondering with all the problems koi tropika buyers are facing which are yet to be settled..all the grieviances and opinions,though maybe it was voiced in a harsh way…should be used positively to judge our purchase…i dont know bout u guys but buying a property is a big step and we are to fork out more than 150k for this,how come some people are defending the sales people and still clinging on to the deal….lashing out at the koi tropika buyers for being honest….and consoling themselves to believe that koi kinrara would not be the same…what guarantee u guys have with the fact that the developer is the same?i was fooled into buying this property and only after paying the 1k deposit did i find out what mess Masteron is in..i got info from lawyers..real estate investors,why even the bankers who some happen to be in the panel….i spoke to the very same sales man…saying im not interested anymore and want back the 1 k and he says i need to be rejected by all 3 banks before i get back my money…whats the point of holding to my 1k since u mention its a good property and many people are interested?give back my money and let someone else get the unit…i havent done my loan arrangements let alone sign snp….but they still want me to be a owner…after what i found out…I DONT WANT!!!…im into real estate and koi kinrara is a bad deal…my mistake is i was too fast to pay the deposit…usual gimmick…mu unit was the only one without the sticker on and they cant wait another day…sigh..sk wan….u r not in the management i agree…but dont defend something u yourself are not sure of.
Comment by space^monkey — May 9, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
When you summit the RM1k for deposit, you didn’t read the condition? If the bank didn’t reject, and you cancel order. The money will be forfeit. This apply to all developer in Malaysia. You can try LBS, Bukit Kiara, MK Land, Setia, Sunway or Berjaya, they all will forfeit your deposit, no one will return it back.
We didn’t actually protect the developer/sales person here. What we mean here is, every property have their own issue so we need to involve and solve it together.
There is no perfect developer in Malaysia, you need to choose and buy. As I mention before, expensive property also face workmanship, security, cleaniness issue during first few year. Things will slowly solve and getting better.
Comment by Jackie — May 9, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
Hi space^monkey,
Jackie is right, once u paid the deposit, if u cancel the purchase, u wont get back anything. Every developer in Malaysia also the same.
Every developer also have the problem, even if my friend which bought the Desa Impiana they also face the problem. Another friend which bought the D’palma (in Pusat Bandar Puchong) from IOI also have the problem, and it’s even worse than Koi Tropika, bcoz there’s 1 block the piling got problem, after few years until now, the IOI still repair the block, if u able to go inside the D’palma, that block that I mentioned it’s crack and “senget” one, all the owner of the block they still cant move in the block until now… D’palma just a small apartment which is only got 4 floor also have piling problem… So how you judge IOI? A good developer as well?
So there’s no GUARANTEE for the developer lah, the only things which we can do is we must unite, and we must strong enough to fight again the developer if somethings we dont satisfy with after the property complete. Like what Koi Tropika’s resident done, now they already get what they want.
Comment by Yeoh — May 10, 2007 @ 8:58 am
Watch a movie to Relax …. PEACE…. No Argue here
What is the next movie gonna watch? NEXT ?
Comment by Alfred — May 10, 2007 @ 9:05 am
MOrning! I will not give my comment now until the salesmen settle his promise to me b4. If i didn’t receive any answer, easy only…my deposit just rm500.
Alfred, when will “NEXT” start showing in cinema?
Space^Monkey should join us, watch a movie to calm down. Can share our experiences together, if u decided not to purchase the property just follow the movie title “NEXT”!
Comment by CK — May 10, 2007 @ 9:34 am
Hi alfred,
U arrange for the NEXT lah.
I’ll arrange of POTC, haha!!
Comment by Yeoh — May 10, 2007 @ 9:38 am
I try to arrange the movie NEXT.
All are welcome to join for the movie !! LOL…
be steady and calm down…
I have met CK and Yeoh and their lovely gf…hehe
I started pay the loan interest since last month…
CK: what he developer/salesman was promised you?Can share with us?
Yeoh:you arrange POTC… yeah yeah
Please cheers up
Comment by Alfred — May 10, 2007 @ 11:36 am
Hi Alfred,
Please let me know early for the movie ah. And I also started to paid for the interest already…
Comment by Yeoh — May 10, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
Dear all…i have booked 6 ticket for NEXT movie on this saturday midnight.anyone interest?I have booked 2 session. 1 is 11pm and another is 12.10am…. please make a finalise…if no ppl interest I will watch myself..lol
Comment by Alfred — May 10, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
Hi alfred, where the place?
Comment by Yeoh — May 11, 2007 @ 12:25 am
Opss..sorry for miss out!! It was at 1U New Wing GSC….
Comment by Alfred — May 11, 2007 @ 9:26 am
Hi Yeoh, I have added you into my msn.
You can add me also: gazard7[at]msn.com.
Comment by gazard — May 11, 2007 @ 11:09 pm
Hi Gazard,
I already added you in, but I’ll going for holiday from 14/5 to 16/5, so only will chat with you when I’m back.
You can add CK in as well: siyquen052@hotmail.com
Comment by Yeoh — May 12, 2007 @ 10:15 am
Sure, I have added CK in my msn. Guess what, just found out that my classmate and her bf book a unit too in Koi Kinrara.
Comment by gazard — May 13, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
Yoh guys .. can add me also? yefoong@hotmail.com (msn) ..
Comment by Desmond Chin — May 14, 2007 @ 4:54 am
the developer for koi tropika really sucks! call office always no answer. send out letters ask us collect keys but the keys are not even ready yet! always give empty promises. didn’t think all those things said were true but now, really no choice but to believe. if given another chance, definitely won’t buy properties from the same developer again! stupid!!
Comment by brucefoong — May 14, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
Hi Guys,
This is the forum for KOI KINRARA.
We welcome you to give comment and suggestion BUT not voice out your complain. If you plan to make complain, please go to the KOI TROPICA office. It will be more effective.
Thanks for your future co-operation.
Comment by Jackie — May 14, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
Agreed. More problems coming in. No matter is Koi Kinrara or Koi Tropika. Still the same becos under same developer.
Comment by joe — May 15, 2007 @ 11:03 am
joe, you might get it but plenty of koi kinrara buyers dont. they still thinks that the developer will keep their words. ask koi tropika owners. all promises made to them are blank promises. all of them! if you all think you are luckier than us, go ahead. i am telling all of you the developer are nothing but money sucker!!
Comment by brucefoong — May 15, 2007 @ 11:25 am
Hi all my Koi Kinrara neighbours, we should thank god that so far KOI kinrara still don’t have resident like “b****fo**g”, else our further living environment…u can imaging that.
Hi Joe,
Thanks for the advise, it’s good information for purchaser as a references but please do care the feeling for those who already purchased. I think you’re different with “him”, must more mature to analyse what i try to say.
Hope for the best, plan for the worst!
Comment by CK — May 15, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
Hi to all Koi Tropika victim,
We all do get your message, we actually are in the same situation with you. We all purchase from the same developer.
The only different now is our Koi Kinrara is still under construction and your’s Koi Tropika already build.
You all keep on telling us not to buy Koi Kinrara and the developer is blood sucker. At this stage, what do you think we can do? Are we able to cancel the loan and drop the purchase? (Who is going to pay our losses?)
So we are really welcome you guys to tell us what problem you are facing, and most important thing is to let us know how you guys solve the issue with Koi Tropika.
Please don’t voice out your complain with us or scolding the developer. Do you think that this will help us in future? Or you want us to follow your footstep - scolding the developer in future KOI project forum or ask people don’t buy from them?
Last words : Please set a good example for people to follow and you will gain their respect.
Comment by Jackie — May 15, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
you bunch of fools. who is talking to you? i am telling this to all potential buyers of the developer’s properties! you have bought from them, so that makes you a victim, just like me and probably many others too. if you think your property price will drop because of what i say, too bad. i know some buyers have canceled their bookings for koi kinrara from the other forum. one more thing. i didnt ask any of you who has bought your unit to do anything. i am telling those reading this page, those planning to get more information about the developer before buying. these people deserves to know the truth whether you like it or not. i cant wait to see the day you start complaining louder than i am now. but heck, i dont care. the developer sucks. they cant even control their own people! send letter out to me to collect keys but the keys are not ready to collect. these are bullshit! if you think you all are safe, bless you then.
Comment by brucefoong — May 16, 2007 @ 1:09 pm
Do you think you’re Bruce Lee?
You just a Bruce Foong.Please dont bark here
Comment by Wong Fei Hung — May 16, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
Hi Brucefoong,
We are so appreciate if you let us know what’s the problem that you face with the developer. But could you please explain like a gentleman? Dont just shouting here. No body will respect and listen to you if you talk like this.
You just keep on yelling here without any good example and suggestion we are difficult to accept your comment.
Why dont you peace up your mind, explain to us 1 by 1 of all the problem you face with the developer, and step by step how you try to solve the problem with the developer, so that we might aware with what the developer going to do to Koi Kinrara purchaser and we might also giving you some suggestion to help you to solve your problem (if you accept).
Bruce, others property buyer I dont know, but I believe the Koi Kinrara purchaser at here dont believe with what the developer has “said” to us, we just believe in S&P and Black & White.
To the people whose havent make your decision for purchase the Koi Kinrara:
Same advise, please make your wise decision, bcoz buying a house not like buying the meat in market.
Here’s some little advise for reading this forum,
1) After you read so much of complain from Koi Tropika owner, please go to Koi Tropika and Koi Legian to see with your own eyes, is it really like what the people said at here?
2) This is a public forum, those who make complain here, they might be the same person but using different name to confuse us, and also they might be the competitor of Masteron.
If my assuming is wrong, then please make a percentage calculation, how many “name” making complain here and how many resident in Koi Tropika?
3) Dont just make your decision only according to what this forum posted, you also need to find out more information from others way. How? I also dont know … I’m quite stupid… I just know to check the company account profile using the CTOS. (like what I posted in No. 121 & 122)
4) Koi Tropika is Masteron’s first project in building a Apartment, this is their first experience in this field. So it’s normal if they have a lot of problem, a good learning for Masteron also. But the Koi Kinrara already their 3rd project, Koi Legian also going to complete soon, so we just hope that they could learn the bad experience from Koi Tropika. This is why I wait until their 3rd project then I purchase it.
5) Dont believe in what the sales agent of Koi Kinrara said, they are only an agent company whose selling the Koi Kinrara for Masteron, they dont responsible in what going to happen, they just want to get the commission. I already posted this in No. 215.
(After you read No. 215 then continue the follow)
The question I asked the agent is “why there are few factory in that area?”, he reply me “factory? who said got factory? NO LAH!! NO FACTORY!!”. I reply “yes, there’s some factory there, I went to the site just now.” He reply to me “You shouldn’t go to the site first, you should visit the show house first!!” after talking this, he just walk away and leave me & my gf standing there like an idiot… and the agent still survive in selling Koi Kinrara now…
Developer & management also run by HUMAN, we are also HUMAN, so when HUMAN dealing with HUMAN, please be gentle and soft. I believe everything can be solve if we have a good attitude and dealing skill. No body like others to complaint ourself, so when we want to meet the developer/management, dont keep on telling ourself “I WANT TO COMPLAINT”, but try to telling ourself “Let us solve the problem together”.
My English is poor, hope you all can understand what I trying to say.
Comment by Yeoh — May 16, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
Sorry for long post.
Comment by Yeoh — May 16, 2007 @ 9:54 pm
Hey brucefoong
Did we koi kinrara buyers hurt you o say anything wrong to you?? Calling us a fool is a harsh word to say and we did not call koi tropika buyers a fool. I know you may not like what we koi kinrara buyers say but we did not go calling you a fool right? so please be considerate and calm down. I am very grateful for your opinion and i thank you for that and some of the buyers may even not like what you comment, i understand that but we did not call you a fool right? All we did was to ask you to calm down and take the necessary actions and give our own opinion on what we think and should do. SO please calm yourself down and don’t go barking like a crazy dog even dogs know only to bark a bad ppl. so if you want to voice out your comment or disatisfaction please voice out nicely ok?? THANK YOU
Comment by Edwin — May 17, 2007 @ 12:09 am
Hi Bruce:
Don’t get our Koi Kinrara’s buyers wrong,we are not supporting the developer and there is no benefit for us to do so. The purpose of this forum is to keep all koi kinrara in a loop and share all the information regarding the project.You are always welcome to share your tips and experiance of buying houses but please don’t make this forum become a place to discuss about the developer.Maybe you can create another forum to discuss about the problems that all Koi Tropika buyers are facing now.Just a little suggestion, not hard feeling.
Comment by Anson — May 17, 2007 @ 4:01 pm
Hi everybody!!
Wanna watch for Pirate of Caribbean or not? I already invited Alfred, CK & Estrine, Desmond, Gazard, Kenny, LauKY, Meow and SK Wan.
The date should be 26/5 or 2/6, midnite show @ 1U.
If you wanna join, please contact me as soon as possible to let me know which date you are possible.
012-209 3921
Comment by Yeoh — May 18, 2007 @ 9:50 am
Hi everybody,
The date of the movie POTC is fix into 2nd June, midnite (should be), at 1 Utama.
Currently Alfred, CK & Estrine, Desmond, Kenny & gf, Meow & gf already confirm the attendance.
So if you would like to join us please contact me!! Hehe!!
Comment by Yeoh — May 18, 2007 @ 6:34 pm
come .. come . join us for POTC… aftern movie we go yam cha…hahaha
Comment by meow — May 21, 2007 @ 11:43 am
Midnite ah, I’m early sleeper lah. Worry I fall sleep and miss some scenes.
Comment by gazard — May 21, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
hahaha…. nvm… after that ask Yeoh sang “talk story” to u loh…
Comment by meow — May 22, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
Meow,
wah… u treating me so good huh… then i need to talk 1 whole day to “talk story” for Gazard…
haha!!
Comment by Yeoh — May 22, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
Yo yo, “talk story” is a song or wat?
Comment by gazard — May 22, 2007 @ 10:00 pm
hi everyone..i have booked a unit at koi tropica block D in march. oledi paid 500 deposit.i have asked for 2 extra parking.the agent said developer have agreed for 1 extra open parking worth 6k, then get 1 free parking.but last week (after 2 months waiting)the agent told me only 1 extra parking available worth 12k.what a cheater..i ask for my deposit until now i’m still not get it back.
Comment by rie — May 24, 2007 @ 10:36 am
Hi all, as mentioned before, I am the Koi Tropika agent that with Koi more than 1 year already, as the third party not representing Koi Tropika Management nor the Koi Tropika Residents. This is what I discover by my own eyes what the Koi Tropika management had done in the past few months to improve the life for Koi Tropika Residents, I was at Koi Tropika last night until 11pm++ to see/discover the changes by my own:-
1) Perimeter Fencing for Block A & B been increased to 7 ft for tighter security.
2) The Canopy been added at the Block A lift lobby to prevent the wet floor during thunderstorm.
3) Security Guard Company been changed upon request from owners.
4) The canopy for the main entrance been added so that the owners can touch the access card no matter how bad the weather.
5) Increase of the CCTV, currently total got 6 cctv, 2 at the entrance, 2 at the exit, 1 inside the guard house, 1 at behind the Block C to monitor the activities at the new walk path way (still under construction, but CCTV is already up hanged at the exterior wall of Block C Carpark exit and already start functioning).
6) The new walk path way exactly at the middle behind of Block C and Block D link to the light industrial area behind is under construction so that when ready, owners can park the cars behind (to ease the carpark problems) and walk direct back into Koi Tropika premises, monitored by CCTV and with Guard at the pathway.
7) Increase in the number of Guards from 5 to 7 and to 9 guards currently (9 morning shift, 9 night shift)
8) The walkpath beside the Children PlayGround already been linked to the walk path that access to Block C Carpark, at the very beginning is not.
9) 4 Sport Light been hanged at the Block C exterior wall to improve the lighting at the clubhouse area (as promised by Developer GM, more lightings will be added especially at the main entrance area).
10) Last month when the Koi Tropika Swimming Pool is closed for maintenance (the water been sucked out), I get know from one of the owner that is some of the tiles at the bottom of the pool already break. The need to replace the broken tiles to prevent any unnessary injury, the corrective action been done.
11) Improvements of the lanscape at the main entrance. The put the “Syelek” for the whole road of main entrance so that it looked new, shine and further enhance the longetivity of the road, “KOI Tropika” word at the main entrance “Gerbang”, the KOI word been repainted and the TROPIKA word been polished, new plants and some lanscaping stones are placed along the main entrance.
12) Demolish the illegal wooden shops in front (where each have to compensate them RM30K)
13) The night park infront of Block D almost built. Some complain the Jogging Track too small, indeed, yesterday I was there, I found out the track is joint until behind Block D carpark. Additional feature at the night park:- children playground (now got 2 playgrounds for children already, another beside the swimming pool), 3 tools for excercise purpose (”Taiji” Wheel, one for sort of Bicycle ride, and other one is kind of the metal plate where you can stand on it and turn around 360 degree), few more places that can have a seat with nice lanscape (which in my believe is for the residents to gather and sit down together in future for the chit chat) and so on…
14) Replace the ceramic tiles at the common corridor for Block A and B to settle the waterponding issue.
15) There is a gap between lift lobby and the carpark for Block C and D (lift lobby slightly about 6 inches), which is not convenient for the construction or moving of the new furnitures using the trolley (they have to place the plywood themselves so that the trolley can get through the gap). Now the bump is added to cover up the gap so that all the trolley can easily get passed.
16) Additional Steel Bar hanged above the Block C and Block D carpark entrance to prevent the lorry to enter the building to prevent unnecassary damage (scratches, damage to the piping and etc.).
Above are the changes and improvements discovered by my own eyes. Indeed I believe there are more works had been done by the management for Koi Tropika Residents better life, my sincere opinion is that all Koi Tropika owners should APPRECIATE these…
Comment by Goldberg — May 24, 2007 @ 11:03 am
Thanks for your update Goldberg.
At least we can see the management is doing something to solve problems.
Well, hopefully all the mentioned problem wouldn’t happen at Koi Kinrara as they should learn their mistake from Koi Tropika ..
Cheers
Desmond Chin
Comment by Desmond Chin — May 24, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
Hi everybody,
I already purchase 11 tickets for Pirate, 2 June, 9.50pm, 1U.
Here I will confirm again the attendees,
Wan, Alfred, Desmond, CK, Estrine, Kenny & gf, Meow & gf, me and my gf.
Comment by Yeoh — May 28, 2007 @ 8:24 am
Yoh guys ~ please check out the Brand New Koi Kinrara Forum
It is still new, so need you guys to do more posting to cheer up the forum ..
Cheers,
Desmond Chin
Comment by Desmond Chin — May 29, 2007 @ 12:34 am
hi everyone,
i am a new owner of A-09-09…nice to meet all of you.
regards,
Marcus
Comment by marcus — May 29, 2007 @ 2:29 am
Updated List.
A-22-08} Edwin
A-21-11} CK
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-19-08} Derrick
A-17-11} Cat
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
A-11-11} Gazard
A-09-09} Marcus
B-21-06} Ken
B-18-12) Jackie
B-18-05} Desmond
B-10-12} Kim
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-05-05} William Chin
B-3A-02} teesk
Welcome Marcus to join us!!!
Comment by Yeoh — May 29, 2007 @ 8:43 am
Just to share with you guys. Went to the site on Sunday 27/5/2007. They have started to cast the ground floor slab and also some columns and beams. This area is actually at the drop off zone/lobby area. Also there is a new show model for koi kinrara where the guardhouse is in front rather than from the side initially. It’s unlike the old model which is mostly white without balcony (for type G - Block A). New one with some part yellow, white/grey painting. This according to the sales person is the design after finalization. The old one is a during proposal stage. They also gave out a CD on presentation on koi kinrara but with the guardhouse from the side. Really beautiful compared to the old show model. Got class..haha
Comment by Marcus — May 29, 2007 @ 10:16 am
Hey all, will be visiting koi kinrara showroom today…With blessing, we could be neighbours…;p
Meeting a sales agent called calvin… I think he’s new as his name was not mention here… ;p
Comment by doomfreak — May 29, 2007 @ 10:17 am
Just got a call from Koi office to arrange my 10% payment which will be due this 3/6/07. According to my sales person, there is a project coming up (Taylor’s College). It’s actually behind McD near Sunway LDP toll. If you come from sunway going towards Puchong, u will see a lake behind McD near the toll. To confirm this, i called my ex-Project Manager who is currently working with Taylor’s Education Bhd on their building and maintenance project and he said there is a project and it’s on going. They have just started earthworks. The reason why i mention about this is that with this project and hopefully more developments around our Koi Kinrara, our property value will appreciate and owners have better opportunity to rent out especially to students.
Comment by Marcus — May 29, 2007 @ 10:47 am
Hi Marcus, true..my sales agent also said that…hopefully it will come through…btw, i’ve made my booking…B-13A-11
Comment by doomfreak — May 30, 2007 @ 9:06 am
A-22-08} Edwin
A-21-11} CK
A-21-08} Kenny
A-20-08} Yeoh
A-19-08} Derrick
A-17-11} Cat
A-15-11} Meow
A-12-08} John
A-11-11} Gazard
A-09-09} Marcus
B-21-06} Ken
B-18-12) Jackie
B-18-05} Desmond
B-13A-11} doomfreak
B-10-12} Kim
B-09-08} Anson
B-08-08} Alfred
B-08-05} nbooi
B-06-02} Tiger
B-05-05} William Chin
B-3A-02} teesk
Welcome doomfreak to join us!!!
Comment by Yeoh — May 30, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
Everybody, dont miss to join us in the following link ah!!
http://koikinrara.forum5.com/index.php?mforum=koikinrara
Comment by Yeoh — May 30, 2007 @ 6:42 pm
very mafan in the forum…
Comment by CK — May 31, 2007 @ 12:58 pm
haha..where got ma fan..i think u lazy type only
Comment by doomfreak — June 1, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
New photos updated in Koi Kinrara forum.
Comment by Yeoh — June 13, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
dear all, can any one tel me what’s happend to the developer ? i just notice all this new’s. i brought the koi tropica.so what’s wrong in the management ? can any one add me MSN and Share with me thanks. - stevekk1@hotmail.com
Comment by steve — June 15, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
dear john and hahf,
both of u purchases koi tropika….?
Comment by steve — June 15, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
hi, i just booking of the koi kinara, anybody can tell me about developer?
Comment by nelson — June 17, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Hi Steve and Nelson,
Please join us in the Koi Kinrara Forum.
http://koikinrara.forum5.com/index.php?mforum=koikinrara
Comment by Yeoh — June 19, 2007 @ 10:36 am
hi all,
i am new owner of A15-09, nice to meet u guys…
Comment by KYS — June 21, 2007 @ 10:30 am
Hi KYS, nice to hear from you. We are shifting to a forum at the address above your comments. Please join us there for more updates. Thanx
Comment by Marcus — June 21, 2007 @ 5:35 pm
hi,
may i know who is start pay the interest? this coming july is my 3rd time to pay. Anybody v me abt this?
Comment by teesk — July 1, 2007 @ 2:04 pm
hi teesk,welcome join us at new website http://koikinrara.forum5.com/index.php?mforum=koikinrara
then u can share opinion with us.
i same with u july 3rd time to pay interest.MOnthly Interest look very high…how about u?
Comment by Tiger — July 2, 2007 @ 7:39 am
hi teesk,welcome join us at new website http://koikinrara.forum5.com/index.php?mforum=koikinrara
then u can share opinion with us.
i same with u july 3rd time to pay interest.MOnthly Interest look very high…how about u?
Comment by Tiger — July 2, 2007 @ 7:40 am
thanks tiger, i also feel look very high..also don know how many we need to pay..is it correct figure ah? y so high 1 ah? how to make sure that figure?
Comment by teesk — July 4, 2007 @ 12:13 am
Hi,teesk i ask b4 the banker ppl their have the formula to calculate the interest.
Example:If bank already release RM50000,so this month (JULY)31st JULY statement, culculate 31 days (base on daily calculation)and BRL=6.75%(only example)(this base on u loan agreement rate different bank different rate),so 50000x6.75/100x31 days/365=RM 286.64 need to pay for JULY statement.
My case interest very high bcos i no give any down payment and loan 100%.
Comment by Tiger — July 4, 2007 @ 7:40 am
hai..im new in hew..my unit will be B-10-02…hope can catch from u guyzz..
Comment by azrin — July 7, 2007 @ 8:17 pm
Dear all,
I just purchased unit B-3A-08 of Koi Kinrara Block B.
I have read all the comments posted here and fully appreciate all the feedback and information.
I just hope that things will work out for all of us who bought the units at Koi Kinrara. I do believe that we can and will form a strong comittee to handle any issue with some tactful and wise decisions.
Here are some of my comments:
1. I have visited the site few times and my concern is the illegal factory nearby. Hope that this can be handled. How about joining with other condo/apartment in the area to address this issue.
2. As for the waste treatment and comments I read here, it is mentioned that the strong winds will blow the smell right to our units. But I believe that it is quite a distance. I was standing at the site today with strong winds but I didin’t smell anything. Hope it is like that.
3. We have primary and secondary school nearby, this will be useful as our children will not need to travel far or cross a major road or intersection.
As for other issues, let’s us join together and try to handle it. No point being regretful and down with panic thinking about things.
As for people who have bad experience with the developer, we appreciate the feedback. But please give positive or constructive ideas on how to tackle the issues.
We all bought the unit and you can’t expect us to just cancel the purchase right!
We will team up and fight together for all the KOI KINRARA residents.
This is not just words, this is my determination.
Thank you.
Regards,
TK
Comment by TK — July 22, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
hey guys… iz been some time since i came in ere.
well… so many things have happened. well… feedback from Tropika residents is helpful, but there is nothing much we can do, if we have already purchased the units.
i think the developer is more at risk in cases where there too much complaints. They will not be able to launch new projects if they do not do their job properly.
And there is still other insituition which we can go to should there be problems.
anyway.. jus came in to say hi to all my friends of Kinrara.
Comment by ken — July 23, 2007 @ 5:24 pm
site progress too slow, seem like developer build their own property(for show room) more than our units!
:-( somw more they already took rm40K from us already!
Comment by CK — July 23, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
For started sure abit slow,when buil until 1st lever,will be more faster.
Comment by kiwi — July 25, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
well… i do agree that the work done have slow down a bit.
3 weeks ago i saw them constructed the 1st floor but jus last saturday i went to see, they have not put another level on yet. maybe it is due to the fact that it has been raining often tis couple of days.
anyway, mine is on the 21st floor so i think it should be around early next year, before i can see my unit.
Comment by ken — July 30, 2007 @ 12:01 pm
hi, everyone here… long time no see u guy. miss u guy much. kaka. Last 2 week i when to Koi Office regarding my EPF, i hear the sale man say the structure got changing woh.. Block C and D no swimming pool already change to 4 type garden… and also the Block C and D will start selling end of this year.
Comment by meow — August 23, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Haizzz i really dun understand why you all keep on blame the developer… the developer is very responsible 1.. dun worry they will solve the matters soon…i just finish my meeting with theys senior management…dun guess im 1 of the purchaser too…
Comment by jerry — August 24, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
Hi…to all…im new here.i wanted to get one in koi kinrara…but it seems like not many choice left for me.the salesperson say the unit left is either on the 3A,13,13A or 20 floor.im interested to get the 1153sq wif balcony 1.can pls advise which floor is better?URGENT coz i already make a booking…i refering to block A(sunway view).pls advise…coz i need to decide soon….
Comment by Benjamin — November 18, 2007 @ 3:22 am
money in. this project is rushing with full speed now
Comment by update — December 5, 2007 @ 9:45 am
Hi update, please tell us more details “money in. this project is rushing with full speed now”. thank…
Comment by Tiger — December 7, 2007 @ 7:30 am
hi guys, im new here. im planning on getting one as well in koi kinrara…but whenever i look out to the factory nearby the project site..its makes me worry in future
Comment by coolzy — December 10, 2007 @ 11:48 am
Hi Koi Kinrara Owners, U should need to know that DBKL intend to build a crematorium plus cemetery on the existing land currently occupied by a Tamil school in the vicinity -
Pls read the follwing blog regarding on going discussion:
The detention center is not that serious compare to the Cemetery & Crematorium, which I felt is the worst decision by the government, espeacially in such a densely populated area. Please refer to the following link:
http://forum.bandarkinrara.com/index.php?topic=347.0
Comment by DC — December 11, 2007 @ 11:15 am
Hi coolzy, kindly visit our forum if you would like to know more about Koi Kinrara.
http://koikinrara.forum5.com/index.php
Comment by Yeoh — December 28, 2007 @ 8:17 am
sorry DC i think u make mistake koi kinrara at Puchong Jaya no u say at bandar KInrara.
Comment by Tiger — December 31, 2007 @ 7:30 am
Hi, i’m interestested in buying a unit in koi kinrara…is there units still available? whats the price like….if i take up 90% loan…how mouch will be the mothly installment?
Comment by sha — February 12, 2008 @ 11:45 am
I newly dicovered KOI kinrara and it seems a nice condo to buy for my own, anyhow checking lots of conversation here and found the developer is stop working on their new block. I wonder currently how many units is complete and how many units to go. Please if have some idea from all of you here.
Thanks!
Comment by PY — March 11, 2008 @ 11:18 am
Hi, I just placed the deposite for Koi Kinrara. I found out a lot of people keep shoot about the developer from internet. I am starting worry about whether i had make a correct decision or not. The sales person told me that the maintenance cost is cost 0.2 sf, but why all of yours just cost 0.15 sf. Please advice. Thanks. Why i need to pay more? One more question, does the maintenance cost cover the sinking fund?
Comment by Nick — April 10, 2008 @ 5:12 pm
Anyone please respond. Why the website http://koikinrara.forum5.com/index.php can’t access.
Comment by John — April 19, 2008 @ 10:49 am
To all, the website can’t be accessed anymore so we have set up a new forum at http://koikinrara.10.forumer.com. Pls register yourself there and keep in touch with everyone
Comment by marcus — April 22, 2008 @ 4:51 pm
hi, i just submit doc & wait for loan approve… i served by 2 difference sales person 1 is agent 1 is from develope, the sales agent told me the maintenance cost is 0.15 sf,but the developer ppl said it s/b 0.2 sf cos 0.05 is sinking fund. anyone can clarify this? tks.
Comment by elaine — May 13, 2008 @ 6:23 pm
hello, i’m new here, from my view, i guess there is no financing problem for the developer although recently the construction material price was increasing alot, but they have already completed 2 project with alot of profit.
what you need to worry is that the developer can complete in time or not
anyway does anyone here have confirm purchase extra carpark ? (except for 1221sqft unit)
Comment by Arxela — May 14, 2008 @ 6:51 pm
anyone can recomment the bank for loan of me , and i just paid the booking fess of koi kirana, and the contruction already done 40% , but read above the bank interes only in 1.0-2 % , but my interes rate it was in 4.75 ? some one can help up ?
Comment by grace — July 15, 2008 @ 12:49 pm
grace, hv u check whether d construction is up d stage of 40% progress???? Service apartment means pay first then build. Something to consider at this situation
Comment by zoo — July 15, 2008 @ 11:14 pm
Guys, i bought mine 2 yrs back. Wat happen to d progress uh???
Comment by zoo — July 15, 2008 @ 11:23 pm
Hi Zoo , i am grace ,did u got msn ? grace 988 , pls add me ?i have something to ask u , thanks for yr help
Comment by grace — July 16, 2008 @ 12:19 pm
hi all buyers and potential buyers of Koi Kinrara. I am also one of the buyers of Koi Kinrara. Please feel free to join our forum at http://koikinrara.10.forumer.com to keep in touch.
Comment by cspok — July 17, 2008 @ 8:52 am
Hey, i placed a deposit at koi kinrara for 1.1kfs sunway view, not sign S&P yet. Anyway, they told me d maintenance fee is RM0.20/fs (included sinking fund). is tat true???
Comment by Violet wong — February 26, 2009 @ 6:48 pm
hi violet, i just did the same .but i m not sure it inclusive of sinking fun or not.anyway i think this is a good buy
Comment by P1 — March 24, 2009 @ 8:55 pm
Hi Everybody,
Just wondering why no one choose Block A, 18th Floor (Sunway View) of Koi Kinrara? Any reason?
Comment by Peng — March 26, 2009 @ 2:10 pm
Hi Everybody!! I am a new buyer. My unit number is B-23-03!!!
Any neighbours of mine around here?
Comment by Raj — March 30, 2009 @ 3:17 pm
Koi kinrara near cesspool (shit Pool)? after rain will got bad smell around (heard from my friends)
Comment by KF — May 15, 2009 @ 9:47 am
A friend told me sunway view units are also cemetery view? She said its a small one across the river. Anyone can confirm this?
Comment by lampard — June 17, 2009 @ 4:30 pm
Hi everybody, i’m new here. May i know which view will have the CESSPOOL (SHIT POOL) and the CEMETERY?
Comment by Wilson Chin — June 29, 2009 @ 3:12 pm
http://koikinrara.10.forumer.com
Comment by xdwqdwq — November 10, 2009 @ 9:21 am